Behind The Servants: Boudica and Zenobia

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[@irish-italianintrovert.8600]

I hope we get an Avenger Boudica in the future because she absolutely deserves it. Also hope Aurelian will be in the game and meets Zenobia again because that will definitely be interesting to watch. He doesn’t need to be a playable character but that would be awesome if he does. As a super history nerd great vid dude 👍🏻

[@matheuskawata7841]

Imagine Genderbend Aurelian dissing Zenobia as nothing more than an usurper and fake Empress

[@irish-italianintrovert.8600]

@@matheuskawata7841 Aurelian is summoned as a rider but he rides the chariot of Zenobia’s late husband to assert his dominance, then proceeds to flying around in it and constantly chant “PRAISE THE SUN !”

[@Blayne06]

If memory serves, some of Boudica's lines imply that she could go Avenger, but that would cause her to become the vengeful queen she was immortalized as in history, and she actively wants to avoid such.

[@Kuronosa]

I hope that Odenathus shows up...give his wife some support.

[@pikaszablak7933]

I want Boudica Alter so much.

[@no.notfromRDR]

I find weird that the Romans had the best military might in history but when they put it on movies is hundreds of thousands soldiers fighting a small village

[@ReCursedy]

When in video clearly stated the opposite. 1 to 10 proportions. That is realy interesting. Maybe it's bc people antagonize empires and romantisize rebels

[@rosspendragon7783]

Don't know if you ever heard of an African queen named Amanirenas but her story is really interesting especially since she dealt with Caesar, I think she would make for a fun sister to pair up with these two

[@irish-italianintrovert.8600]

I believe she was the Ethiopian Queen who had a little war with Caesar Augustus after a little border raid in Egypt. Correct me if I’m wrong.

[@rosspendragon7783]

Yeah your right the conflict was over taxes and having romans in their lands

[@ousamadearudesuwa]

@@irish-italianintrovert.8600 no, she wasn't Ethiopian. She was a Kushite, a Nubian Queen and was well known to be the one challenging Rome Multiple times as well.

[@desmondmalone438]

6:12 I feel Boudica’s avenger self would have the same personality but whenever a Roman servant or say anything to do with Rome whenever she’s around she’d go mad as how Penthesilea is with Achilles

[@Flutter_Akone]

Avenger Boudica chilling with Romulus (imposssible)

[@asteriskonline3494]

Kinda like Taira Kagekiyo but for Rome instead of Genji.

[@Dioscuri1113]

I love both of these characters, but I really want to see Aurelian as a playable servant, give, the praise the sun chad who was so powerful god nerfed him by killing him early.

[@shuvodev7888]

Often in historical account winners make losers army size look massive I think this is true for Boudica's story

[@JakeMatthews-OnLo]

Damn I hope Zenobia’s artist works on more servants, hopefully a male one. I loved his illustrations in the fgo ccc manga especially his Kiara and Emiya Alter pieces. He’s a god tier artist IMO. I remember retweeting his work and still being blown away when he made Zenobia.

[@Dioscuri1113]

It would be thematic if he did Aurelian

[@exudeku]

Would wish to see Aurelian the Sun Chad (and potential best bro of a certain Gold Roman) and an Avenger Boudica

[@boolonky1392]

Pretty hyped, have been looking forward to this one!

[@rothern3761]

Really giving the old historical cleanup to Zenobia arent' ah. The part you ignore regarding context of Zenobia's breakaway is the time period, the crisis of the third century, in which to many it seemed the empire was falling apart. To many, seeing a province be taken by a woman who only claim to power was being the wife of the former ruler(Who's titles were given due to his loyalty to rome and as such were seen as form him and noone else), later attacking and taking Egypt, one of the most important territories, critical from both an economic and food sense, all the while styling themselves as a flow blown monarch removed from rome's power was revolt plain and simple. By trying to foster a monarchy beyond the one of the emporers she was essentially trying to break with rome, and wanted to take some of their most valuable land and resources with them, of which they had ruled for more than 300 years by that point.

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

She sexy woman so we ignore those parts

[@ophelie2620]

Yeah, is it a bad thing that you wanted to be independent from a crumbling empire who dgaf about you and your people? Should they let themselves be starved to death?

[@namoma4922]

Empires are tipe for multiple type of stories. In media, most of the time the hero would be the underdog rebelling against an empire. On the other hand you can marvel at the drive, ambition and competence needed to go from an originally small territory(rome used to be only a very small village, and one pretty much bossed around by their neighboors at that. Alexander the Great original territory was of course way smaller than what it ended up being) to a giant one On the other other hand you can look at those who joined the pile of corpses in the process, and now the growth of the empire no longer is some rag to riches story but more of a bully crushing the underdog Back and forth again and again etc..

[@rellsyk6358]

Wah! I just discovered this channel, what a great job you do, as an enthusiast of history and as a fan of fate, i certainly know I'll enjoy your content!

[@j_Snow]

I would like to see Boudica becoming an avenger and sharing her body with Andraste's spirit, like Taira and Ushi

[@leopeixoto1318]

I wish one day we will have Aurelian as a 5* Rider, just to see him beat Zenobia again

[@YaraZapi]

Quick nitpick, Andraste wasn't the British Goddess of victory. She was the Celtic goddess of victory since she was also worshipped outside of what is modern-day UK in other Celtic realms such as Ireland as well :)

[@no.notfromRDR]

I've been waiting for this video Thanks for also including your opinion

[@ReCursedy]

Nice vid, very interesting and I love your chill atmosphere, comment for statistic and algorythm

[@luizfelipevbf5567]

-Somehow I missed this even with the bell on- Nice vid, some spotlight on them is appreciated, Boudica in particular given how little history we have on her (Not even her daughters' names).

[@mrs.paracelsus1]

A friend recommended me this and I have to agree as atm still design my own take on Boudica avenger

[@desmondmalone438]

15:50 and Fate take on Nero Claudius

[@desmondmalone438]

15:33 yeah anime always got me to know that misunderstanding from people idiotic reaction would screwed them over especially in drama type series

[@desmondmalone438]

That some Bootiful choices you made in this video lol

[@lord_boneman]

As always, an interesting vid that taught me about figures I’ve only heard from Fate/GO. And while completely unrelated, any chance there will be something on Babbage in the future?

[@klidge]

I’m the future, yes absolutely

[@toyaleejb7714]

@@klidge Oh I know nothing about Charles Babbage

[@Slvrwlf]

Old Klidge model

[@lilsmurfy8349]

have to give these two credit for taking a stand against Rome even when they both failed in trying to succeed

[@gravityhero2227]

After Avenger Boudica i want Avenger Medea.

[@evanolsen6925]

IDEA! Ranking the welfares could be fun!

[@punmaster247]

Heya once more quick note the book of revelations wasn't written as anti roman propaganda. the book or Revelations serves as the book of the Bible that discusses what is to occur in the time of when Jesus Christ is to return to earth. While many things can refer to the time present in the book of revelations not everything refers to that specific point in time within the book. Besides if it was written out of spite then it would have been more blatant about it.

[@shulkash8799]

The book of revelation is anti world, but since Roman ruled most of the known world then I can see it have a bit of anti Roman sentiment. Although its funny that Nero freed the apostle Paul when he went to Rome as a prisoner.

[@punmaster247]

@@shulkash8799 perhaps that's how it can be taken as but that wasn't the biggest picture with the boom of revelations however it was indeed funny to say the least but ironic with what happens later thanks to Nero

[@FirstLast-hd4oe]

Correct it is nothing to do with Nero just everything to do with persecution nero persecuted many people hints the resemblance

[@shulkash8799]

@@FirstLast-hd4oe Nero was a crazed, in the sense that he did lots of bizarre things and had incontrovertible ambition to control the government, ruler, that made lots of enemies, which would affect how future generations saw him, and being after emperor after Caligula didn’t help matters.

[@punmaster247]

@@toyaleejb7714 why I could guess why Nero was brought up here so much is because of his impact her caused however he isn't the sole emperor who did damage that could span then entire timeframe of the empire if we were to go there

[@Vithor.G16]

Great video, man!

[@nillynush4899]

I like the latin pronunciation of Tacitus.

[@aredjayc2858]

I want Avenger Boudica a lot, given her usual defensive leaning and a taunt she could use the avenger passive to spam her NP. I should point out that the Queen of Sheba was likely from Ethiopia not Arabia, so her being connected to Zenobia is highly unlikely

[@ophelie2620]

Romans when the provinces that they not gaf about rebels because they don’t like to starve and being mistreated: :o

[@lordyubel9845]

Another great episode

[@minu-chan6826]

Hi Klidge I wonder if you will do a video on vlad III?

[@RagnaCloud13]

Some underrated Tanukhid queen named Mavia be like: Bunch of losers with fanservice. No wonder Ritsuka Fujimaru breed these two big time.

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

Yeah nah I disagree if Zenobia wanted what was best for her people she would have done not one of the expansionist actions like taking Egypt or printing her face on the coin and acting as if she and her child were Royalty and done like odenathus being loyal instead she allowed ambition to get to her and lost it all

[@MoonlightReaper14]

Boudica is my favorite rider (waifu wise) in fgo and I am the PROUD owner of a lvl 100 boudica. Not many people may use her or like her but I will ALWAYS give my Boudica love because she's so fucking beautiful and she's the queen of victory

[@FirstLast-hd4oe]

Oh btw why is zenoboa a archer independent action bur did she use a bow or ballista in live

[@abs305]

for boudica's story you forgot about catus decianus

[@zecond-js1yc]

I liked this video

[@elenazopes8665]

Ganesha/Jinako when?

[@Astavyastataa]

Boudicca Mommy 🥰

[@MrSergore]

Paulinus and especially Aurelian servants when?

[@simonschnedl]

Get them some clothes!

[@josephcruz5902]

Okay

[@josephcruz5902]

Great video

[@nobodyhimself1643]

Where is your latest new model XD

[@unrankedchevron742]

Is there such a thing as a non-conquering empire?

[@nouveauscripter1718]

Not that I can think of, but theoretically you could have a coalition of states/kingdoms voluntarily joining together. A probable catalyst for this would be an encroaching empire.

[@nhazulkimonalos9895]

Amazing vid to an amazing waifu

[@Kuronosa]

Hearing you pronounce Zenobia's husband's name hurts my ears...

[@FirstLast-hd4oe]

But seriously revelations is anti-universe not anti-roman Rome just happened to be there at that time but you can apply it to modern or future times easier if you me

[@TheBelieveit1]

Winners are often demonized by the losers. The USA faces the same thing, in particular when it comes to Native Americans. I am not going to argue that Settlers and the later US government and people didn't do terrible things, but to act as if the varying native tribes did nothing wrong is to look at history through rose tinted glasses and to take the admiration of the underdog to an unhealthy degree. Human history is full of groups of people fighting, killing, conquering and all other ills being committed to others and even the varying tribes of Native Americans are no exception. The only difference in this case though, much like it was with Rome, the Europeans were just far better equipped and organized. Much like you mention in several of these videos, war and conflict has far more shades of grey than most think. This doesn't make both sides equal in terms of being good or evil, but in a number of ways it can come down to perspective. The conquered may lose their culture and independence (relatively) but can benefit from advances that a more relatively modern culture can bring that makes the quality of life better. Not always true of course but again, simplifying things into black and white is the stuff of fiction not reality.

[@spencergreen9415]

first

[@josephwilliams9030]

I'm really sorry but. Boudica: fear not men, for god is on our side. The resolve of this woman shall see this through. Flee if you wish but we shall win. Gaius Suetonius Paulinus: I going to do what's called a pro gamer move.

[@namoma4922]

I mean as much as i empathize with them, he indeed did a good job(militarily) Being severely outnumbered and pulling off an uncontestable win is no small feat