Behringer Crave + TD-3 combination using CV tutorial. Patch Ideas

[@AntonAnru]

📻 Patches and Sequences for Behringer Crave 💽 Patterns for Behringer TD-3/TD-3-MO Everything is here: antonanru.sellfy.store/behringer/

[@IgorPodobaev]

Эхх, жаль не купить из России.

[@AntonAnru]

Можно купить. Напишите на почту

[@paulwhiting1731]

It amazes me that Behringer doesn't have video tutorials featuring these ideas. Thanks to you they must be selling many more instruments. Excellent work Anton.

[@AntonAnru]

Thank you for the feedback

[@mrgonflables]

Can confirm :)

[@evh3305]

"A few moments later..." whole wall of modular synths.

[@AntonAnru]

At the moment i limit myself with semi modulars

[@technokind1503]

🤣

[@333baxter333]

It's a slippery slope

[@titan0857]

True story.

[@calebrocha7518]

It's really helpful that you post the output --> input info on the screen

[@AntonAnru]

Glad that it helped

[@MetzgerDarkAmbientQC]

Nice ! Been waiting 4 months to get the Crave I ordered and because of this video I might get the TD3 finally. Great sounds !

[@AntonAnru]

You will have a great fun

[@jonmaddison]

Really useful. Found via your webpage. Currently playing with this pair and this was really helpful.

[@AntonAnru]

Glad to help

[@K.KILLORAN]

I have these coming in the mail this week and I have the feeling the Crave is going to be a real gateway drug to dropping some coin on Mod

[@funkyneil2000]

I have the TD-3 coming tomorrow. It was bought on a whim but I get the feeling it could lead to an empty bank account!

[@clay_oakley]

@@funkyneil2000 got it too a week ago and I want more already...it really is a wormhole

[@rfish2]

And!!? How is it???

[@martinjames7847]

Yup. I bought one a year ago and ended up DIY building a whole eurorack modular of about 30 modules. I knew nothing about electronics before I started, and might have gone a little mad in the process. My TD3 arrives tomorrow...

[@director2bob]

you need a detox yet? I just ordered a roland TB-03 last week and just saw this guy and his videos and 100% going to buy these two devices and can always sell the Roland TB-03. But the sounds these two make when working together is dope cool. Just hoping you are still having a good experience with this gear.

[@pabloocampo2056]

Really good info mate! Clearest I’ve seen in the internet so far!

[@AntonAnru]

Thank you

[@ferret1969]

The TD-3 manual states the following regarding the Filter-In on the TD-3 FILTER IN - this input allows the connection of an external audio signal instead of the internal VCO oscillator. So this is not for modulating the Cutoff, but for allowing the use of the TD-3 filter with external audio signals.

[@brianwilliams3621]

Hi Anton, I just found this video. Top stuff. I have your Crave patches and will now be plugging cables between my TD-3-MO-AM and Crave. Until now I have just synced them via MIDI and SYNC, so I'm looking forward to what comes out.

[@AntonAnru]

good luck with this combo

[@K.KILLORAN]

That interplay at 20:20. Love it.

[@jacksonueland]

Super creative patches, very nice

[@AntonAnru]

Thank you

[@basicinfo1640]

I’ve got both coming in the mail this week! This video is a god send! Thank you :)

[@AntonAnru]

Have fun with new synth

[@steveclifford6893]

Wow! the Crave synth has funkiness! together with the TD 3 its even funkier! love it !! Thanks Anton !

[@rexcellencemagee6729]

After I got the Roland T-8, I thought, that’s the td-3! I’m currently experimenting with those and two craves.

[@DJdoublevision]

i've been getting closer to get the TD3 to go with my Roland DJ505 ....and now guess what ...i want a crave now too ....thanks very much for this .....love the two of them together ,great sound ...thanks for this vid :)

[@AntonAnru]

Sorry for making you spend more money on synths)

[@PeresD]

Great stuff my friend.

[@AntonAnru]

Thank you

[@DueWhatThouWilt]

Jus ordered my TD3 can’t wait to hook up with my Crave!!!

[@AntonAnru]

Congrats with purchase

[@DueWhatThouWilt]

How do I send midi clock from Logic Pro to crave and td3

[@AntonAnru]

Via midi/usb

[@DueWhatThouWilt]

Right but in the settings how do I go about it?

[@AntonAnru]

Sorry, can't help with logic settings, i use Ableton. In td3 settings you should choose external clock

[@JustMe-sn1zv]

Very good video giving tons of inspiration! Thx!

[@AntonAnru]

You are welcome

[@hastysnailsound]

Thanks for this video ! Lest's try it with my patterns

[@AntonAnru]

Good luck!

[@BenGeorge77]

So inspiring. Just went and tried several of these.

[@AntonAnru]

good luck with it!

[@bladelinemicrobladingparis1431]

Thank you for the tuto, love it

[@mrbreaker101]

This all sounds really good

[@gru_day]

So much fun! Music is amazing journey.

[@technodrone313]

having fun with my td-3 and microbrute connected up over cv.

[@marcopaganotto9125]

Nice one man! I have these two lovely machines, so this info was very useful 👌

[@AntonAnru]

You are welcome

[@tomphillpotts]

Nice work!

[@AntonAnru]

Thanks

[@LuisTorres-qz5kr]

Great Tutorial, thank you!

[@AntonAnru]

You're welcome

[@WackyJackyTracky]

this is awesome!

[@AntonAnru]

thank you

[@yiyo8]

Amazing video 👏👏👏👏

[@AntonAnru]

Thank you

[@C0DE8]

Great Tutorial! THX :-)

[@AntonAnru]

Welcome

[@creator79]

Anton, regarding this "multiple bug", I assume it is caused by incompatible voltages of the TD-3's gate (0 to +12 V) and the multiple in / out (-5 to +5 V). However the hold, reset and play/pause switch at more than 3.2 V. So when it's directly connected it seems to work because the hold, reset and play/pause inputs simply get voltages +/- the 3.2 V threshold. But when the multiple in-out path is used, which is also built for - 5 to +5 V, there seems to be a problem - which I cannot describe in detail, because of missing knowledge about the Crave's internals or the electronic backgrounds. I think the multiple out tries to stay conform to its specifications +/- 5 V and it cannot handle the 12 V in this range and hence possibly never clearly reaches the 3.2 V threshold, even though 0 V means off and 12 V on. The multiple seems to buffer. Does anybody else have an explanation?

[@AntonAnru]

Good point

[@manuelgonzales6483]

I have those 2 machines thanks for sharing great ideas 😁

[@AntonAnru]

Have fun)

[@pokerdealer2003]

I would love to hear this with roles reversed, the crave can produce amazing bass, good stuff keep it up!

[@SketchieRecordsUK]

great informative video👍🙌🙌🙌

[@AntonAnru]

💪🤘

[@gchristyer]

Superb !✌️😁👍🇬🇧🙏

[@lnterference]

Спасибо Антон! Теперь точно беру обоих :)

[@AntonAnru]

Хорошей вечеринки

[@StamatisStabos]

Hi Anton, can you use the Crave with td3 mo as a pad to play basic long notes when you change patterns on td3?

[@director2bob]

I am ordering both of these today because of your videos. I think these will sound so nice with my Moog Sub 37. I plan on buying all your downloads for ant of the dear I own. I forgot if I asked you if you tried the TD-3 MO the orange TD-3 and if you think that's a better unit to purchase. Thanks again for your channel. I love what you are doing for us!!!

[@eclectic-cinema]

Hey Anton, that's great stuff. Thanks for sharing. I have a question. If I hear correctly, in about 13:55 you are sending slides (glided notes) from TD3 to Crave... And Crave receives them and plays them. Am I correct? I would like my modular microsynths receive slide notes.... If I would use TD3 as a sequencer, and send the CV Out to OSC CV In of anoter modular/semi-modular synth will it play the slides programed in TD3?

[@MrSwisstoful]

Great stuff

[@AntonAnru]

Thanks

[@roysummers1026]

So I can do this with a mother 32 as well. Good to know. 🙏

[@AntonAnru]

In most cases yes

[@exoterik23]

Good video thanks, and good sounds too 😁👍

[@BPEMETO]

Thank you very much for the video! : ) I really want to get started with Behringer synths. What would you recommend for me to get first? The Crave or TD-3 ?

[@AntonAnru]

crave - it's much more interesting

[@BPEMETO]

@@AntonAnru Thanks! : )

[@Cysubtor_8vb]

Gonna have to try some of these out with my TD-3 and K-2, though, the latter's Hz/V pitch CV probably will reduce the number of options.

[@khanhgomsu]

Hi! Does anyone know if I can synchronize this TD-3 with Yamaha arranger keyboard PSR-S (770, 970, 775, 975,...)? I want to play styles on Yamaha keyboard and add bass lines from this TD-3. Can TD-3 follow the rhythm and chord progression? Any help is appreciated

[@AntonAnru]

Tb3 can be synced to whatever via midi or cv, its sequences can be transposed, or you can just send notes via midi to it from external sequencer or daw

[@stephenmurphy8349]

This is great - thanks!

[@AntonAnru]

Welcome

[@manuosfp]

Nice, thanks

[@AntonAnru]

You're welcome

[@Dave-el6rh]

very nice.

[@AntonAnru]

thanks

[@seanpopple5984]

Hi Anton, great videos. Looking fkr some help please - I have my crave and td 3 synced with Korg Volcas (volcas are the master). As far as I can tell they are all on different channels BUT how do I stop the TD3 being triggered when I hit play on the Crave?

[@classyB916]

I think you change the trigger input

[@UFO-303]

Is it possible to implement Square pwm on TD-3 via cv input? Using external lfo?

[@AntonAnru]

td-3 doesn't have PWM cv input

[@QWERTYKUS]

Can I actually break the Synth if I patch it with itself? Or patch „wrong“ with other synth? I got an td3-mo and I got no idea what to do 13 „holes“ on the front 😅 where to put cable

[@AntonAnru]

It's hardly possible to do any harm.

[@michaelmarsmusic]

Does the Crave Have Cv //Gate IN? So you can control it with an older synth via CV Out? I know the crave has Midi In // Cv Out. How About CV Pitch // Gate In?

[@AntonAnru]

Yes, there's a patchbay with lots of cv ins and outs

[@Magnus_Loov]

Wow! I'm blown away by this! For me the CV out/in And CV Gate have always been totally uninteresting since "I already have Midi". I didn't expect/think about that you could do this, only thought about the regular "key down", "note" (like recording just notes with midi). I don't own a Crave YET! But I do own a couple of other Synths that I can do these kind of tricks with. But Crave seems to especially be interesting with all its patch points (and what can be done to/with the sequencer on it) and all the extras stuff like "multiple", "mix", "assign" etc. And that the resonance can be modulated (unusual and good). But then again should I REALLY get another Synth device(would be the 10th) ? Why the crave for it?😄

[@AntonAnru]

Welcome to cv and gates

[@wildcat189]

Awesome!

[@fleebschlehm2467]

Very informative and entertaining Thank you! Are there running the identical sequences on Booth mashines? Each seq. has the Same Notes programmed? Cause i dont get it 100% 🤔

[@AntonAnru]

Hi) no, the seqs are different

[@unclemick-synths]

Good video.

[@AntonAnru]

Thank you

[@yodavongohta7577]

So, I am connecting the TD-3 cv and gate out to the crave and it plays the correct melody but it's an octave too high, while the frequency knob of the crave is in its middle position. Could I change the octave on the crave when using the external control?

[@AntonAnru]

I guess you may transpose as usual with the keys

[@yodavongohta7577]

@@AntonAnru thanks I just found out how this works.

[@jaspertermors]

Great, informative video. The Crave has some interesting inputs compared to the Neutron, mostly because the built-in sequencer / arp. Very versatile machines.

[@AntonAnru]

Yes, for me crave is also more interesting in terms of connectivity than neutron.

[@jasonfields1947]

SUPER video, thanks ... Newbie question time ... I am using a TB-03 (midi slave) & TR-8s (midi master) (no computer /DAW)... I am getting a Crave this week, can i use the CV patch output from TB-03 to Crave (as shown here W/ TD3 to Crave) and not need to use midi from TB-03 to Crave ? If i am understanding correctly, the TB-03 would control the tempo & start/stop without midi or UCB via the (CV) patch cable ? THANKS in advance for any advice . Jason from Detroit

[@AntonAnru]

Hi Jason, thank you for the comment. Td3 doesn't have tempo/clock output, so it can't control other devices tempo via cv. The easiest way is to use midi. And make sure to set Crave tempo input source to midi in synthtool app

[@jasonfields1947]

@@AntonAnru Thanks, i don"t have a computer that supports downloading drivers (chrome not windows) so synthtool will not be an option for me. Will i need to buy a laptop with windows and downlaod synthtool to sync my crave ? I truly hope i can use my crave in sync with out a laptop. My 3 machines (TB-03 /TR-8s &Crave) in a daisy chain. thanks for your time . If you have any tips on a no laptop set up please share.

[@AntonAnru]

i guess these settings can be done on the front panel. But for me it was much easier to use the app. There is also a ios app, if you don't have a computer

[@AntonAnru]

Hello again) you may sync crave to td3 using cv if you send clock from Crave Assign output (seq clock) to td3 sync in

[@gw33b]

Hi, is it possible to connect multiple behringer devices to a computer via USB?

[@AntonAnru]

Yes

[@theesfarich9513]

Great work! You know what you're doing. But what, if you don't have a DAW in background and want to couple the two devices directly? I have both of them for days know, but can't succeed. Volcas are easy in that. Took me 5 Minutes. It's a shame, Behringer has no real manual or documentation... Regards, Thees

[@classyB916]

Does it work if you just use the sync jack? Or did you find another solution?

[@jiaquinnzenxin9900]

I'd love to hear the crave VCO going to the TD-3 audio in for use as a sub oscillator.

[@mixx-mastersinternat.djservice]

is the same sequence programmed on the Crave or is it just a blank pattern ? i only need a slave which gives a little more grovve like the gate functions. my td3 is the slave to mc707 via midi, i only want to send the td3 pattern to crave, what are the settings in the synth tool for td3 and crave ?? thank you

[@AntonAnru]

Crave has its own sequence here, td3 as well. You may send notes from td3 to crave with cv and gate outs on td3.

[@mixx-mastersinternat.djservice]

@@AntonAnru cool . i am new in this modular synth world, my first step.. where do i put cv and gate outs from td3, in wchich slot from crave ?? p.s. i have bought your td-3 dreamy sequences and the other too, i will listen to them soon.. thanks..

[@AntonAnru]

Thank you for support. Td3 cv out - crave osc cv in, td3 gate out - crave env gate in

[@cthlos]

Nice tutorial. Thanks! Looking forward to mixing these devices myself.

[@AntonAnru]

Thank you

[@MHFC-bp6zg]

Hi antun I’m using crave and td3 usually with ableton. Every time that I’m writing my pattern and play them in the arrangement it triggered the patterns inside the synthesisers and than I have to press ‘stop’ in both of them. If you understand what I mean, can you tell me how I fix it? Thank you

[@AntonAnru]

When you hit play in Ableton it sends Start message to then via midi/usb. I don't think there's an easy and obvious way to turn it off. Maybe it's possible to pass then through some midi filter, where it's possible to switch off Start/Stop message. But I can't help with it at the moment. I never did it

[@marcoagius6926]

can you save patches on the crave like the td3 does? thanks

[@AntonAnru]

Not patches, but patterns - yes

[@marcoagius6926]

@@AntonAnru okay thanks for your reply

[@NeonFuxAlot]

Great video , now I want a Crave too , which do you think is best to get first , Currently I have uAcid8 , hapiNES, Pocket Operator Tonic , Sub and Robot , I also got a MicroFreak and a Circuit plus an SQ-1

[@AntonAnru]

Thank you Steven. I think I'm asked quite frequently about what to choose, crave or td3, so I've decided to make a video to mention all points. I guess I will release it in a week

[@NeonFuxAlot]

Anton Anru I was too impatient and after hearing the dreamy patches for td3 I ordered this first, so I have a blue version coming tomorrow

[@tubeMonger]

Can you use the oscillator of td-3 with the crave?

[@AntonAnru]

So you mean pitch control from td3?

[@tubeMonger]

@@AntonAnru I'm a bit confused with the patching. Behringer has a video where they use a module that adds an oscillator to Crave. Here's the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2Oofp1mfqpon6M

[@AntonAnru]

Yes, you can add anything to a modular system. You were asking about using oscillator, yes, you can. But it depends on how you gonna to use it

[@tubeMonger]

@@AntonAnru I need to try some patches and come back with an answer to the "how" :-) - thanks for your responses!

[@AntonAnru]

Welcome

[@cprovenzo]

Nice!!!!

[@AntonAnru]

thanks

[@BackgammonFun]

Здравствуйте, помогите начинающему. Я подключаю rd6 к td3 для клока sync out - sync in, а можно таким же образом с td3 продолжить на crave?

[@AntonAnru]

Здравствуйте. Я уже не помню точно. Но должно получиться. Нужно настроить вход tempo in на прием клока и можно синхронизировать

[@BackgammonFun]

@@AntonAnru Просто при подключении к tempo ничего не происходит. Единственная реакция на start/stop, но оно просто туда сюда клацает.

[@AntonAnru]

@gotti3847 настройки темпо входа смотрели?

[@F50]

Can the CV be controlled via USB at all? My DAW recently added some CV stuff but I don't have any CV hardware or a CV soundcard or anything, just wondering if Crave would be a good intro to it, or whether I'd need to keep splashing out...

[@AntonAnru]

you can't control CV just by connecting Crave via USB. yes, as you mentioned, you need a special sound card, or any module that converts USB/MIDI to CV

[@unclemick-synths]

David, the Korg SQ-1 has a non-sequence mode where it is a USB-MIDI to CV converter. It worked fine for sending CV to my Neutron from my MPC.

[@donnychilner8385]

A divider? You can change the pulse on the td3. Im looking at getting this.

[@andyjohnson9714]

Но как ты аудио рутиш в запись? Аналоговые выходы в аналоговый миксер/пульт и потом его мастер аут в саунд карту? Или как?

[@AntonAnru]

просто сразу в карту, без микшера

[@reardondearborn]

How did you up the octave on the crave?

[@AntonAnru]

You can shift its sequencer pitch via keyboard

[@reardondearborn]

@@AntonAnru thanks. i should have realized. cool!

[@Prankenpaule]

Top 😀 thx a lot

[@DennisdeWeerd]

My crave also 'holds' to a single step when connection the TD-3 -> multiple IN, multiple OUT -> hold (Crave). A bug, maybe?

[@AntonAnru]

i guess the voltage is shifted a bit

[@madvalrocketinsky4292]

Same...

[@unclemick-synths]

My suggestion is to use a mult lead or one of those star mults.

[@patrickschulz6162]

I don't know if this can be the cause of the multiple bug, but it could kzbin.info/www/bejne/h52oYZuLeb-Lfa8

[@SLEEP-236]

Should I purchase a 2nd crave or a TD-3? There’s not a lot of difference in money. Answers on a postcard please👍

[@AntonAnru]

2nd crave is a good choice as you can combine then into a bigger modular synth

[@SLEEP-236]

Anton Anru it’s the sensible thing to do based on price and flexibility. And they sound so good. It was my first synth and has really got me hooked.

[@Hepe_1]

hi it would have been better when doing this with a simple kick/hihat-beat on the crave, instead of 2 acidlines (on both machines) now it's difficult to seperate the sounds, because they sound pretty similar with a simple kick (maybe + hihat) on the crave, i would hear and understand the changes better sorry for my bad english

[@vladimirtarasov79]

Антон, а у вас курсов нет, типа "синты для Чайников"?

[@AntonAnru]

Добрый день, пока нет

[@distortimus7631]

I have a problem syncing the td3 to Ableton. The tempo is always changing and it frustrates me.

[@sonofdirt]

try using an audio clip with a click & patch that to the Sync In.. then you will be synchronized @ audio rate instead of MIDI which I assume is your issue with tempo drift. I use a similar technique to sync my MC-202 to DAW.

[@LoveLove-us2qz]

Thank you very much for the explaination! I have a question.Maybe you can answer me. I have the behringer rd6 and td3 can I use the Behringer cave with both and do i need a computer? Or can I put the 3 mashines togethet. I am thinking of getting a cave.

[@AntonAnru]

Yes, you may sync them all via midi. So you'll get a nice setup in sum

[@LoveLove-us2qz]

@@AntonAnru thank you so much for answering back. I will get one. Stay safe and I take a kindly bow. Keep up your Videos!

[@daviddeyons]

How long is your TS cables ?? 1,5 feet??

[@AntonAnru]

i've got many of them, from 10 cm to 150 cm

[@juancharry1457]

Hi ! Nice video ! Can you sync the tempo of both machines using cs or sync in-out?

[@AntonAnru]

You may send clock from Crave Assign output (seq clock) to td3 sync in

[@rexcellencemagee6729]

I’m going to have to watch your videos we share the same instruments.

[@0713dm]

How about Crave + Roland TB-03? 🤔

[@AntonAnru]

I'm thinking of it...

[@mp-ym9gw]

nice

[@AntonAnru]

Thanks

[@MG53v8]

There's a hidden menu 3 , might be able to fix the hold problem there. But you've probably figured it out after 2 years since posting ^^)

[@AntonAnru]

Yes, thank you

[@KosmoDeuz]

Тоха, скажи как настроить чтобы crave арпеджио играло в external clock?

[@AntonAnru]

Нужно настроить выход AssignOut, чтобы он клок выдавал. Можно через приложение или с передней панели

[@MediaMusik777]

love the td3 sound! crave ....no 1/4 out big mistake imo

[@AntonAnru]

It's sad, but no a big deal to my taste

[@AlekseiDroganov]

Шикарное видео, если бы сделать дубль для нашего Могучего было бы супер. Спасибо.

[@AntonAnru]

Сложно по времени на несколько фронтов. Поэтому на английском, больше охват, и думаю большинство россиян меня понимают с моим акцентом

[@aaaper5522]

im having a really hard time connecting my crave to ableton. arp and sequences just dont play. i have midi track and sync on input and track out output. i just cant figure it out!!! any tips?

[@AntonAnru]

Check out buffet size in preferences. It should be as low as possible. Also turn on reduced latency in options menu

[@ЕгорДанилов-ч2н]

А есть ли инструкция на русском где-то? Кто нашёл подскажите плз.

[@AntonAnru]

Это не совсем инструкция, это уже фишки и идеи. На русском нет

[@ph911]

Спасибо. Не все понятно, но прикольно)

[@AntonAnru]

должна же оставаться интрига)

[@ph911]

@@AntonAnru можно тебе вопросов по комутации написать?) Перехожу на железо и местами туплю. Затыки по схеме и подключению. В вк или в телеге например..

[@AntonAnru]

Да, можно в вк

[@ph911]

@@AntonAnru написал. Спс.

[@BarbieChaite]

4:50 I don't hear such a difference

[@AntonAnru]

Maybe it's not too obvious and it also depends on timbres and seqs on both synths, but even here you may notice that some additional ratchets are added due to hold

[@alekseykorma7211]

Привет я купил себе крейв а он не работает что делать

[@dharmov]

Учить английский

[@klaasj7808]

so 300 euro vs 3000 with original 303 and mother32

[@AntonAnru]

I would take their latest tb03, so the overall price will be under 1000

[@synthsproblems3475]

Interesting video But i think this 2 dont sound good at all together . crave is very much louder than the td3

[@e.d.2126]

акцент как у Мутко )

[@AntonAnru]

Вместе учились

[@ПНХег]

По акценту слышу что наш!

[@AntonAnru]

наш🖖