Behringer Crave Vs Arturia MicroFreak

I took the two newest and most interesting little synths I could find and compared them in my first video from the Thomann Synth Reactor. Behringer Crave analog monosynth and the Arturia digital Hybrid - which one floats your boat? And yes I did muck up the attempt to sequence the Crave from the Microfreak via CV - i didn't connect the gate!
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[@KoshDukai]

So, I'll be "that guy": MicroFreak Gate -> Crave Env Gate + MicroFreak CV -> Crave OSC CV + MicroFreak Pressure -> Crave VCF Cutoff ...could've worked, no? :)

[@jhkingery]

def would've worked that way...

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Ah yes yes, the gate was of course the missing component, that’s why it didn’t work. Thanks for that 😀

[@DOPEDOGTOPDOG]

WORSE CHANNEL EVER ? hipster wannabe

[@recycology5468]

@@DOPEDOGTOPDOG Yep not bothering to subscribe.

[@mauchkimberly]

appreciate this comment. It saved me time watching this when I'm looking for someone who wants to use them together. Most appreciated.

[@georgeray3492]

Thanks for putting these two together. Liked what you got with the LFO modulating the cycling envelope. Micro Freak audio palette seems to head in a different direction from Crave, which seems to make it a good complement. A little MIDI clock from one to the other for timing and the internal sequence on each should play nice. Thanks!

[@TheScreamingFrog916]

Presets are great for saving that really cool sound you were up all night making, so you can recall it later in a jiffy. Also good for saving a snapshot of a cool sound, before you do further experiments, so you can get back to previous state, if the experiment fails.

[@fusionistaaaa]

I agree but then we have VSTs and DAWs for that I guess. I hate that you have no idea where your settings are when you load a preset. So i get both your points/

[@dexbee]

On the Microfreak, the save button light flashes when a knob is turned and reaches the value set in the preset.

[@3ertin]

There is also the panel button

[@HomeCinemaJunkie]

Say what you want regarding the Micro freak, but the display looks killer as it shows you what is really going on when you do adjustments.

[@edorc1]

You are great!!! Sympathic + authentic! Thanks

[@CampSpaceship]

Love the new set. Great stuff man.

[@pizzagogo6151]

Good choice! Yes 2 of the most interesting newly released synths. I disagree about presets but I still am almost certainly going buy a crave when they become available. Like the originality and sound of the microfreak a lot but I know I could never get along with that silly keyboard design. Thanks for showing these both!

[@nycpny8396]

The keyboard might surprise you. It's very sensitive & fast , responds well & is pressure sens also. 😉

[@CoenBijpost]

Would probably be cheaper to just have continuous knobs with a bunch of LEDs around them that change with the preset. Motorized isn’t only expensive, but also prone to failure...

[@huntersandell859]

whats motorized?

[@fusionistaaaa]

That is what i want the most, Do you know a synth with dynamic LEDs when recalling presets? Thanks

[@sergiishust9858]

@@fusionistaaaa hydra synth?

[@fusionistaaaa]

@@sergiishust9858 does it have that?

[@sergiishust9858]

@@fusionistaaaa not really, but they have endless encoders and values on a screen and also LED representation of value on the panel

[@snurkergerm6168]

Excellent video, thanks. Don´t think I need either of these but still enjoyed watching

[@SuperGinkgo]

Well I have just watched this vid (the first I have ever watched...) and tbh I bloody LOVED it! The fact that you were not "au fait " with all the intricacies of the machines and didn't whip thru them like a Messiah Mozart touched a nerve; too often there are virtuosos' blasting thru setups and shaping sounds like it's going out of fashion... and a lot of the time this leaves me cold and feeling like I can't attain any proficiency with my muddled approach. So thanks for showing you are mortal and not taking off at warp speed leaving me non plussed. I have the Arturia Minilab mk2 and suite, that I have dabbled with since New Year, I love it; sometimes I even make sounds I like...! Subbed and thanks. 🎵 👍

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Nice one, cheers!

[@AndyChannelle]

The great thing I find with presets is that you can choose not to use them, or just imagine them as demos.

[@matthewcody1757]

Andy Channelle yes exactly they are just ideas of what can be done as far as im concerned

[@PaulBoos]

I dunno I was immediately impressed with that sound from the Microfreak that you dialed up. It sounded fun... Reminded me of some 80s New Wave sounds.

[@MoltenMusicTech]

That’s cool! It’s all in the expectations 😀

[@greghunter448]

Motorized knob will never happen. Knobs with LED rings is the way to go i.e Nord Lead 3

[@MoltenMusicTech]

No one is going for my motorised knobs

[@yongamusic]

Yeah LED rings! Don‘t know why you don‘t see them more often. Sooo useful for showing what a preset‘s settings actually are. I must say the way they solved this on the SKULPT is also very effective. (LEDs along the keyboard to show the strength/position of a setting/knob.)

[@djcvmusic1]

Yeah with software plugout when preset change the light on knob too

[@pixelflow]

@@MoltenMusicTech Just strap some lego mindstorms servos to a dweeny duino and say some magic words.

[@EliahHoliday]

Yeah, you just need LED lights to indicate where the preset had the knob position at and the knob to pick up after it is turned to that point and beyond.

[@TeamHash]

Motorised knobs eh? Expensive to implement and prone to failure. IMHO, a better option would be Encoders and a meaningful display of current value.

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Nope, it's motorised or nothing for me!

[@daniyalahmed97]

God no, encoders are a PAIN

[@jondelange]

I think the moog little phatty does it right with a light telling you where the knobs position is in the preset.

[@TeamHash]

@@jondelange I have Korg Radias and there is a dedicated light which shows original position, but I find it cumbersome. Ideally, IMHO, a rotary control with lights all the way around, showing current position, and original position would great. Motorised is great., but it'd be damn expensive for a box with lots of knobs and as I mentioned prone to fail

[@TheRaretunes]

@@daniyalahmed97 why?

[@minisynthcollective7822]

Please help. How do you save the sequences on the Freak? Thanks

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Pretty sure you save it with the patch

[@SisterRose]

I'm actually considering getting a Crave as a companion to the Microfreak for running Moog-esque sounds, running it through the filter and syncing the MIDI so I can get additional voices(though since I don't use LFOs much I can already use that on the Crave)

[@playinmyblues]

Motorized knobs... They would work but that would be an expensive component to replace. Different companies have done things that work well - anything with LE Ds around the knobs to show position work. The Microkorg XL has an LED light up when the original value is reached. They work with figuring out presets.

[@1138jrock]

You show why I like this stuff...the adventure of figuring it out.

[@Dogboy73]

Awesome. Just started watching. Great to see the Microfreak. I’ve got one on pre-order. Can’t wait 😉

[@Individual_two]

The Crave is nice and would be a good get if you want to get started in (semi) modular, also it would make a good expansion to an existing modular or semi-modular rig. The MicroFreak bundles up some interesting ideas, but it is fiddly in the tradition of 1990's-vintage digital synths.

[@kingtrance6826]

John shape shifted into Individual Two.

[@charizmawolf6490]

Im ready for a pro one vid! Especially if it includes a polychain..

[@johngudgeon7454]

I like it when my brain goes ‘oh it’s just a bit wierd’...

[@tonverfall_studio]

Robin, I know this one's from a while ago, but it was a fun watch. I have had a MicroFreak for 3 or 4 months, and came across this video because I've been absorbing all sorts of info about the Crave, which I'm awaiting. I really like the MicroFreak. On the synth side, the sheer variety of sounds it can make is fantastic. The option of mono or 4-voice poly is amazing at the price point. The strange rhythmic things possible with Swing, Slice, and Dice are rewarding. On the MIDI controller side, it's like a 25-key capacitive version of the Keystep, and I use it a lot that way to control other gear. I bought the Crave mainly to get a bunch of patchable outputs to plug into my Neutron. The combo is sort of "poor man's Eurorack", but I'm excited to set up dual-oscillator FM, modulating the Neutron's oscillators with its own LFO at high rate, then borrow the Crave's oscillator and LFO to modulate filter and other bits on the Neutron. That's just the first idea. 😃 At any rate, thanks for the bit on assigning a control in the MicroFreak's mod matrix - I hadn't figured that out yet!

[@NonLocalYokel]

Nobs do mean something when you load a preset. They represent the start, or the end. It’s up to you.

[@flourfree2K]

Can't actually wait for the Behringer CRAVE to become available on the market!!!

[@Imetalman2000]

I have both, and I can’t imagine my rig with out either of them. Both are affordable and both inspire you to make music.

[@davidgoode7416]

Good stuff man, thanks 👊

[@adrianbennett3914]

Great Content and I love your clear yet rambling style. You tricked me into learning stuffs. I just gatewayed into the analogue world with a Monologue and pretty quickly came to the same probs trying to mess with the patches and the knobs truely are meaningless. Need to crowd source those motorised knobs. (I think Nasa used to use them). Thanks

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Cool, thanks!

[@paulgulling838]

what is the synth sitting behind him with the colored gradient buttons?

[@theforch]

Roland Tr-08

[@paulgulling838]

@@theforch -much appreciated!

[@pirateradio808]

i feel like this guy smoked two or three bowls before making this video -- not that there's anything wrong with that

[@Justbase]

he is indeed all over the place. lol

[@techstyle123]

He is exploring 🙏

[@ThinkerThunker]

Instead of motorized knobs ... it would at least help to have a recipe flip-book that corresponded to each preset, showing what the settings were. Surely companies could spring for a booklet? And after trying one on the Minibrute 2S, they're pretty helpful.

[@crimsun7186]

Whenever someone brings the whole "Behringer is ripping off X", just tell them how many synths out there are actually Minimoog copies down to the signal path and sometimes even component choice.

[@shitmandood]

So far, the Crave doesn't look like a rip-off of anything. It appears to be its own beast.

[@crimsun7186]

@@shitmandood To joke I usually tell is that you can easily annoy one of them synth elitists by saying that the Neutron will become a classic.

[@iannordin5250]

No you can't say that that's illegal

[@iannordin5250]

@anthony patterson I think his point was that it's unfair that behringer gets a unique reputation for being a copycat when the industry itself is mostly brands copying other brands and legacy designs

[@recycology5468]

Roland SH3 had the Moog Ladder Filter and got sued.

[@TheFreeRadikal]

I was thinking about your comment on presets and just remembered that the Minilogue has a shortcut, Shift + Play, and it loads the panel, so you get whatever the knobs and sliders are set at, first time I've actually tried that after owning it for a couple of years, thanks for the reminder, I realise it's kind of the opposite of what you were getting at, but its good to know that what you are hearing is the actual settings on the panel.

[@KoshDukai]

The MicroFreak also has a Panel button for exactly that purpose :)

[@TheFreeRadikal]

good to know, thanks, @@KoshDukai

[@MoltenMusicTech]

That’s a very cool feature - didn’t know about that

[@MarshalArnold]

Also, on some synths like the Korg Radias, there is an indicator light. When you select a preset you can manually adjust the knobs untill the light comes on which indicates you've moved the knob to the original position of the preset. Time consuming, sure but quite effective. Also, synths like the Nord Lead 3 and the Moog Little/Slim phatty use LED indicators which is even better because most things can be seen where they are set for the preset straight away despite the actual knob position. Last, some synths have a passthrough feature where when you adjust a parameter no change is heard until you go past the presets position, giving you an audio queue when you're in the ball park. Motorized knobs would be pretty sweet! Even if one of the companies put there tried it damn the price and see how well it does. Would be interesting.

[@fusionistaaaa]

@@MarshalArnold Thats what i wish, a rotary encoder with a LED and a catchup function that only alters the paramter once it reaches the current preset's position.

[@christoroppolo8742]

This is great . Peace Christo 👽🎶🐕❤️

[@christoroppolo8742]

This is awesome. Peace Christo

[@TechGently]

"Starting to get interesting things to happen" is exactly the MicroFreak. Not getting the meaty sounds like I get with the IK Uno, or the Korg Monologue. Then again I've had not a lot of time with it so far.

[@melanieruse6734]

interesting and informative. captures the differences nicely. now could you do something on the modal craft 2?

[@MoltenMusicTech]

I looked at the Modal but it hasn't grabbed me as yet.

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

I understand motorized knobs are far to expensive, but here's a solution, maybe: the synth remembers the values of the knobs (digitally) and presents them in a little screen, so when you recall your preset it shows the values of the knobs (maybe five at a time, with a scroll knob), so can reset it manually. A bluetooth connection may make it possible to show you your panel in an app on your mobile device, with all the values.

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

What's the middle synth in the cupboard at the left?

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

Or is it a Yamaha Reface DX with something behind it?

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Yeah I has a controller that opens up the FM. Can’t remember what it’s called

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

@@MoltenMusicTech Ah, thanks a lot. With this info I found it, it's a Dtronics DT-RDX controller voor Reface DX

[@Franzware]

Nice video and love the way you have done it!Not interested in Microfreak..just a doubt about Crave..looks like there are no led on 'keyboard' button?So how can you recognise which step is currently playing? The Mother 32 has a led below every note button.What's your opinion?thanks

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Yes, the buttons have internal leds that show the step. I only used the arpeggiator in the video so you didn’t see that.

[@Franzware]

@@MoltenMusicTech Great to know,i am gonna buy it!Cheers

[@axs203]

How do you think the Crave compares to the Korg Monologue? They are both similarly priced.....

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Yeah, really interesting. It’ll probably be £179 in the UK so perhaps just enough cheaper, but Korg make decent synths. Monologue is probably overlooked but has no patching potential.

[@axs203]

There is a lot of competition. Korg with their Volca modular and Modal and their little brill synths - oh and The Uno which looks really cool. What choice we all have! For me Arturia and their original keybed is the winner here. It's very striking indeed. Maybe it's me, but I have not heard too many great demos from some of these synths I mention - let's see if someone can do some really good ones... one good demo from the right person can make all the difference in terms of selling lots!

[@LightningSpritesJetsWizard]

@@axs203 check out Alba Ecstasy

[@fakshen1973]

I didn't finish the whole video. But I know that the MicroFreak is basically a Braids module rapped with a a pressure-points kind of interface. The Crave sounds like a lot of fun and it's relatively inexpensive. $200US. That's great for someone on a budget or if you want to have a real analog monosynth floating around. Having an arp and simple sequencer is a great feature. It basically is the Behringer version of the Mother-32... for a third of the price.

[@billyretardo3790]

Is it possible to control these sounds through a midi keyboard.. Kinda new to these guys..

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Yes

[@billyretardo3790]

@@MoltenMusicTech how about a tutorial and what hook ups we might need.. That would be awesome!!

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Here you go: Plug a MIDI cable into the MIDI Out of your MIDI keyboard, plug the other end into the MIDI In on the synth - bingo!

[@ryangunwitch-black]

I love my Microfreak

[@hajikelist]

motorized knobs. not happening... but perhaps digitally indicated positions instead of paint on plastic.

[@RedmotionGames]

After using the 0-Coast for about 2 months I've realized that presets have been one of the major barriers to me enjoying creating music, I thought they were saving me time, they were wasting it. Crave sounds great.

[@Doctormix]

Nice video man!!!

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Thanks mate

[@georgerussell2947]

Eyy doctor mix

[@PeterWalkerHP16c]

You don't need motorised knobs, you use rotary encoders and mark the position in a ring LED. Vertical sliders implemented like a mouse wheel or a tractor track control or use a tablet to control the box. Presets are either to educate you on how to get sounds or to cater for the lazy and unimaginative noodlers. The ability to save save patches is an altogether different beast.

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Motorised are so much more fun

[@PeterWalkerHP16c]

@@MoltenMusicTech ha. maybe for a few minutes - then they are just toys for the cat.

[@virtuosomaximoso1]

I build euro rack stuff. Motorized controllers or even lit rotory controllers would be expensive and the digital controls would probably be even more parts and design to filter out the noise from micro controllers.

[@zjenji]

I enjoy your review style. Very casual and funny! Subbed!

[@DBCisco]

I am craving a crave and wish Arturia would release that Buchlaesque keyboard as a controller ala keystep.

[@joco9958]

yes, add an octave and that keyboard as a separate controller, was thinking the same yesterday

[@moogmoog5222]

The filter on the micro freak sounds great for a digital synth.

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Yes it does

[@sndrcve]

Has anybody made knobs with a circle of LEDs surrounding it? This would then change with the patch?

[@noisealchemist971]

Been a few. I had Novation's SL MK2 that did that.

[@foxglove9]

Clavia Nord Lead 3 had them. The Behringer BCR-2000 has them too. A bunch of synths and controllers have them. Another more budget option that Korg did on the MS2000 was to include a little LED light that would light up when you twisted a knob past it's original/saved position. I found it very handy when editing presets and patches.

[@sndrcve]

Stephanie McKeon I think the access virus has the led light up when you hit the patch settings. Korg esx has something similar on the display

[@TheAgl1980]

Moog Little Phatty

[@1138jrock]

Just got a Crave after diving into Volcas. I’m still trying to wrap my head around the seqeuncer. Volcas kinda spoon-feed you.

[@fictions2135]

I think they should use encoders with an led ring around them. Like on the midifighter twister

[@bernardheckmandwike5226]

i can't believe some one said it. yeah the filters and lfo's oscillators are all over synths. it would be nice to get some different functions in them like decimators, looper fx, amp simulators, sequencers, simple edit functions instead of cut of and resonance all the time. we can all go through an external device that can filter and lfo etc. lets get into the future with these things and get away from the 80s pads, and squelchy fart filter noises all the time. this constant re hash of synth like the tb and tr series from roland. the yamaha reface and all the 808, 707, 909 stuff is getting frustrating. every time i look for a new bit of gear it sounds the same. i recently looked at electron and i swear its a vamped up volca in an electron box. the only pice of kit ive had real satisfaction out of recently is the korg emx just because it sounds a bit more alien and you really have to work at it to get a flat sound but its still so cheap and nasty sound having said that. i cant really afford high, high end stuff but i have had plenty of hands on in studios etc and yh you get a little more kick for your money but thats to be expected. its almost like manufacturers know we (me) little people will be quite satisfied with the little we get... nah not me but then again i am not from this planet but will stick around for the fun of it. wibble wibble

[@Tony2dH]

In the budget range, I think the Microfreak will give you the most options to make very weird sounds when using the matrix (which is very easy to use). In terms of drum machines/grooveboxes, the new Model:Cycles from Elektron will get you unique sounds that are not like the old analogue boxes.

[@Dubstepconcept]

Intro "sweet so its not just me!"

[@gudmundurThor96Nr2]

When will The Crave be released?

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Currently "in production" so i would guess at Christmas

[@couchcamperTM]

it can be preordered since last week from music-store cologne, ETA early december.

[@attichatchsound-bobkowal5328]

Probably needed to connect the MIDIs for not transfer.

[@zbooblewis]

Love my Crate need another one

[@shitmandood]

I'm very interested in the Crave, if Behringer is going to keep the price at $200 as it claimed. I keep thinking that the excitement behind that price point, is suddenly going to jack up the price, making the entire point of it not very interesting (because if it costs the same as the better gear, then why not buy the better gear??).

[@modaroho]

just wait and have Patience

[@Honking_Goose]

I dunno if you have been tracking Behringer but theres also a pretty large amount of hype about the model D and that hasn't increased in price

[@shitmandood]

@@modaroho I will steel myself... :)

[@gamingcatdad]

Where did you record this? Background looks so retro. :) Cool vid tho, I wasnt sure which one of those to buy, tho.

[@MoltenMusicTech]

This was at an event at Thomann in Bavaria, Germany, they have an old house they've converted into a video studio - they kept the wallpaper and furnishings :)

[@gamingcatdad]

@@MoltenMusicTech I have to go shopping there someday, it's only an hour's trainride away. If only I could afford shopping there. Lol

[@xisotopex]

what about the crave versus the manther

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Send me s manther and I’ll check it out

[@jdssurf]

imagine the price if synths like that had motorized knobs tho, sheeesh

[@chrisliddiard725]

Wow .. loving what you manged to do round about @25:00 - cross rythmns, followed by something i can't pin a lable on but was really cool @25:45 Its as though you had 2 or 3 freaks in a room Jaming across each other.

[@SuperEgido]

Probablemente los dos sintetizadores más interesantes de este año.

[@SuperEgido]

...y probablemente el peor probador de los mejores sintetizadores de este año.

[@justFUNdimples]

Crave vs Mother 32... that would be an interesting comparison

[@Justbase]

lol....this video is neither here nor there. enjoyed

[@davidsimons1377]

Microfreak seems interesting but the first thing that immediately puts me off personally is that the Crave uses Curtis chips & the Arturia has an Obie SEM filter. They get everywhere & I have more than enough of both. Of course there will be plenty of buyers who need them, but I wish more synth designers would make new original designs. Jury still out!

[@MoltenMusicTech]

It’s that tension between the desire for the new and the comfort in familiarity

[@philxdev]

yeah some of it is really for the marketing aspect. why bother creating new chips which is pretty expensive, when you can get a household name that drives sales.. otherwise some people would think .. _Oh they used some "cheap" chip_ well people..

[@monogramadikt5971]

i was thinking about the preset issue the other day, and think they least they could do would be to include an illustrated booklet that showed knob/switch/dial positions for all the stock presets, it would be an invaluable learning tool for noobs like myself *dont even need a printed booklet, just a pdf will be enough yeah

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Yes definitely

[@philxdev]

it would not be half bad to have behringer do a community fed preset site, when you discover something you can upload the soundfile while also illustrating the knob/switch/patch options on a template looking like the real thing..

[@aurelhollowgram]

midi????

[@HotStrange]

Every time I hear the MicroFreak I can’t help but think it should sound better. The feature set (especially for the price) is one of the best in many years, but I have iPad apps that sound much better. My Blofeld can do everything it can and more, and sound better in the process. Sucks because I want to love it support the originality, but the Crave sounds much better here.

[@MoltenMusicTech]

I know what you mean. I think if Arturia can get me one then I can spend more time with it and the possibilities should reveal themselves

[@HotStrange]

Molten Music Technology I hope they do send you one. I’m still very interested to see what people can do with it.

[@milingosutera9013]

Gate is the magic portal to the crave

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Yes indeed, I hope to get another go at that 😀

[@BoBeats]

you lovely man!

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Right back at ya darlin'

[@doak1694]

You should ask Arturia if you can do their official demo videos, you nailed that one ;)

[@fabbroubauba6685]

Dear Man and other Men.... Problem is not to get Presets. Problem is the ability to make and save you own presets. Cheerso.

[@MoltenMusicTech]

You've got to let it all go man.... live in the moment and transitory nature of being

[@Cibee100]

At the price of the Crave you can just buy one per patch.

[@fabbroubauba6685]

lol . no .

[@TheScreamingFrog916]

@@MoltenMusicTech Play a synth and live in the Transistory nature of being. (see what I did there)

[@sajp8859]

😂🤣 Yep-yet another mind flummoxed and then hypnotized by the Microfreak! 😂

[@devtank]

Dont forget! ST2 2pm!

[@MoltenMusicTech]

What?

[@MrStupidHead]

No doubt one can make great music with this thing. No doubt noone will.

[@MrStupidHead]

The Arturia on the other hand, is an inspired piece of work. It breaks all kinds of ground. Gonna get one of these.

[@captainuniversalart3796]

definitely getting a skin or some type of vinyl rap for that crave. Despite that, crave is a must-cop for me.

[@quisp1492]

I feel like there are a ton of synths that all do basically the same thing. I feel like these sounds could be made by any number of synths and/or midi controllers.

[@iannordin5250]

That's why i think the future is in stuff like the OP-1, devices that focus on creating intuitive and modular user experiances over sound. This is blasphemy to gearsluts but in truth there is a whole lot more i can do with an OP-1 than a Prophet, or a 100$ midi and a program than a prophet

[@Maladaptation_ThiesWrobel]

I have both. I love my micro freak and hate the Crave.

[@philipTOMPSETT]

Got your voice back then. Hooray.

[@localtechnique]

Perhaps due to the magical healing properties of German beer?

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Yeah, mostly :)

[@makiszeg5745]

is deferent to the price too.Cave cost the Half money from the freak

[@HotStrange]

No it doesn’t. The Crave is $199, the MicroFreak is $299. Not a huge difference.

[@makiszeg5745]

@@HotStrange well as i know the prices in euro, is 299 euro for freak and 149 euro for cave

[@makiszeg5745]

@@HotStrange They have announced the prices in euro,299 euro for freak.and 149 euro for cave

[@HotStrange]

Makis Zeg Ah okay. I thought the Freak was 249 Euros, my apologies. I’d definitely go for the Crave in that case.

[@guidelineuk]

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[@m.g.kroger]

Everytime someone plays a cutoff and resonance interaction, I hear Pink Floyd's On the Run in my mind, like there has not been any step further since they played it... I reallly dig synthesizers, yet I need them to allow some new sonic explorations.

[@sonjaspackenberger9250]

I'm trying to imagine what kind of music I would write using the sounds of farting insects...

[@MoltenMusicTech]

It would be awesome music

[@S-CAT]

Sonja Spackenberger You could make a great soundtrack for a film about insects that fart. :)

[@treblehead79]

My suspicions are mostly correct. I do like the Crave. I do NOT like any sounds I've heard from the Freak.

[@HotStrange]

I’m kind of in the same vein unfortunately. I LOVE the features of the MicroFreak, and I’ve heard a couple patches here and there that I like, but I’m waiting I see someone really open it up, because based on what I’ve heard, I don’t think I’ll buy it.

[@theNickRYG]

@@HotStrange ditto. I love the idea/direction of the freak, but the demos just haven't sounded great. The crave on the other hand sounds so versatile. I've already heard like 30 recognizable tones that i want to use. For $100 less? Take my money Behringer.

[@woodswalker88]

I had a microfreak...I didn’t care for its tinny sound so I sold it. Your vid makes me wish I still had it...but it didn’t fit well in my rig. Now I have preordered the Crave ($248...must be the trump tariffs:(. I got it because it is a simple sequencer that will cutthroat the mix.

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Simple is good 😀

[@joshmoneymusic]

Yep, it’s Trump Tarrifs. That’s why I ordered the Crave directly from Thomann in Germany for only $147 USD and payed $33 shipping. Much cheaper than pre-ordering in US and I already have it! ;)

[@kentxx12]

Have you seen this,just a 4 track recording : kzbin.info/www/bejne/iH_EiYeKjqira5Y ?

[@glnnk_art]

I've had the Crave for a bit, but found it to be pretty tinny. And the sound looses much depth at higher resonance. It's still and awesome beginners synth imo, because it's so cheap. I've sold it for a Neutron. That's a massive machine, but still not for me. I now own a Drefadbox Erebus v3, which sounds amazing. And I'm soon getting a Microfreak, for some crazy poly action.

[@Steven_Random_Suffix]

I'll be getting the Crave, was still reluctant about getting the MicroFreak as well, but this video convinced me not to... Even if the price was the other way around, I'd still go for the crave. It's not that the Freak is all bad, but way too much crammed in a small form and soundwise, 60% of the played sounds were painful to my ears...

[@robertsyrett1992]

You know, that Crave demo was oddly persuasive.

[@MoltenMusicTech]

It makes you go - oh it's quite good

[@michaelgrijak8623]

Behringer better have their production lines in order and ready to go, because they will be selling a TON of these Craves at this price point!

[@gwugluud]

Bout to send back the Roland Gaiaiaia (sic?) that I ordered, because I, my GF, and my lone remaining bandmate were standing by while I did the unboxing then setting up then playing etc. I messed about w it 1st, because EYYE, bought it, plus EYYYE'm the "band" leader..I jack the buttons and sliders off for a minute, then myself and the band mate who's still with me and hasn't yet succumbed to "Hotel California syndrome"... any band I've joined/formed, the bandmates inevitably "confront" me all, "We want to do 'Hotel California'", and I'll reply "But 'Hotel CA' is boring", then they'll be, "Open up your mind, maa-aan", and I'll respond by opening up my mouth and vomiting live guppies in Clamato with diced carrots, and the band's done... He and I are looking on as my GF has her turn jacking off the knobs and sliders, as we both try to act like we're NOT playing pocket pool from watching her. Then his turn, etc. He says it first. "This synth SUCKS". She agrees, I more than agree. The filters and envelopes have the weakest effect I've ever witnessed on any synth. Sliding and knobbing, even switching between the, like, two waveforms on each oscillator even has next to no effect. It doesn't seem possible, you know. So yeah, sending that bland thing back, when I should have got maybe that Microfreak; I'm still on the quest. Thx for this helpful bit here, it was very good.

[@the_newvoice]

Hahaha :)

[@silaspitch9485]

While I do acknowledge the admission of the free-wheeling nature of this review offered at the beginning, my first thought is that beginners, particularly, will not be well-served by this video's comparison. So, I suppose the audience really matters here. I don't own either of these devices, but there are a number of other KZbin dives into both that are far more useful for deciding which one might be a good fit, especially for someone new to the game. First impressions reviews are generally the bane of folks who have yet to purchase their first synthesizer. A critical realization is that, to a beginner, the knobs on a monophic analog synth do not do exactly what they say they are going to do any more than the knobs on a paraphonic digital synth do. If someone has yet to learn what an LFO or an envelope are and what to expect from them, then the labels on the knobs won't help much without a certain amount of preparation. So, learn the Crave's knobs and patch bay, or learn the Freak's knobs and menus--it's all the same. The run-through of the Aruturia MicroFreak was particularly unfair, given that others reviewing this synth on KZbin have been able to obtain rich sounds from it with little effort. The dude from loopop made the MicroFreak sound like a veritable Vangelis track within a few minutes (which, I surmise, has contributed to its monster popularity). The mod matrix looks particularly interesting to me as part of a possible fast and lightweight gig setup with a combination reverb/delay (really, now, no need for patch cables--interesting indeed). Seems paraphonic with quasi-aftertouch would be killer in that use factor. In all seriousness, the Freak's key bed looks and sounds like it could do at least a few of the things that a ROLI Seaboard is capable of! One important point: the MicroFreak has a strange feature that allows the player to send any preset to the panel, so that the patch itself then reflects the panel settings--knobs and all. Not quite the same, but still an interesting and useful way to make presets do more work when composing. Frankly, I'm considering either buying both, or just adding a Mother 32 to my table.

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Yeah, literally my first go on each :D

[@Volcaniced]

unfair?

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Different

[@kostasadeyaremalaka5976]

sou came to the conclusion that crave beats the freak? really now brother?

[@MoltenMusicTech]

nah, different things, different places

[@john-idden_sys1579]

Fun way to discover the pleasure of the Freak is on your back in bed. Thumb underneath, press glide and slide. Happy accidents. Slow down. Listen. Experiment. The part of my brain that salivates for a reliable correspondence between signs //-= + [] 24.54 and "thing" is as likely to get stuck as play. So I like the Freak's freakishness, its frequencies seemingly emanating and reverberating as The Body Electric opens or closes the circuit by direct contact with the printed circuit board. How freaky!! & oh so responsive and easy.

[@MoltenMusicTech]

Nice thoughts, thanks

[@celtislam]

Fuck sake just make a tune with them in fact send me them and i will do an album lol