Behringer Just Put Mutable Instruments Plaits Inside a Semi-modular Synth // GRIND

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@JAdeWii_ 3 ай бұрын

Support my work foo

@marizuokereke7347 3 ай бұрын

The Plaits engine was made open source. You don't need to work with anybody to use it.

@JAdeWii_ 3 ай бұрын

oh yeaaahhhh. Where's my Rings into Clouds box then?! PRIORITIES PEOPLE!!

@riseofthemachine2623 3 ай бұрын

@@JAdeWii_ That would be cool. I never could tame Beads, and wished I'd gotten Clouds instead.

@RP-mp4ow 3 ай бұрын

@@riseofthemachine2623yeah, beads is pretty ruthless to use. When it works its delicious, but every other time im thinking about selling

@vitriolix 3 ай бұрын

@@marizuokereke7347 it is but it's gpl which requires you license directly with the copyright owner (Emily) to use it commercially.i hope she made out well in the deal

@HousePlant_Ambient 3 ай бұрын

@@riseofthemachine2623I loved Beads! From my experience with Clouds - Beads is definitely Clouds 2.0 really solid.

@Cysubtor_8vb 3 ай бұрын

When I saw Grind, I was more surprised that they announced it before the long awaited Spice has entered the market. It been so long that I went ahead and got an actual Moog Subharmonicon. I am considering their Model 15, though, as that's a significant drop in price and size vs a Grandmother.

@thedeepblueskys 2 ай бұрын

The Grandmother is totally worth saving up for vs the Model 15 in my opinion. It’s not as large as I thought it was gonna be and that was a plus. Not to mention it’s built really well. I love the keybed and all the connectivity. Bought mine when it came out as well as the Mother 32, DFAM, and Subharmonicon. Traded the Mother32 + $500 for a Virus Ti-1 desktop but that’s another story. As I was saying, the sound and feel of these Moogs are worth the extra money over the amazingly priced copy’s. Those clones are legit too, but I’m so glad I saved up longer and got the real deal. Now I still want the Labyrinth & Spectravox, then eventually the Matriarch. With all that I can do without the Mother 32 for some odd reason. Don’t need it. This would complete all my analog needs. Edit: Besides the OB6. I still want the desktop version of that

@vitriolix 3 ай бұрын

The reason behringer had to work with her is because the open source code is licensed under the GPL which does not allow for commercial use. This means they had to get a license directly from Emily. Very smart of her.

@crnkmnky 3 ай бұрын

I wonder how the situation with the Behringer modules differs from the MicroFreak. I remember Arturia catching flak for _implying_ it got significant input from Emily.

@888cromartie 2 ай бұрын

MIT license. No collab required.

@Waldemar_la_Tendresse 2 ай бұрын

@@vitriolix That is one of the reasons, GPL has been created, to protect the individual coder from malicious big companies. (Just in case someone wants to say "But they're not malicious at all.": there are studies about how very large companies in particular benefit from open source, since these companies in particular have the manpower to be able to easily familiarize themselves with the source code.)

@macola467 3 ай бұрын

behringer neutron is still the best semi modular synth on the market

@RealityShiftUK 3 ай бұрын

not the proton?

@macola467 3 ай бұрын

@@RealityShiftUK i haven't tried proton, but it looks like it has less utility stuff than neutron

@rodnee2340 Ай бұрын

This is actually one synth from beringer I'm seriously thinking of getting.

@easytoassemble54321 3 ай бұрын

I'll admit to being excited about this one. Digi oscillators get hate from the purists, but I like them for their flexibility. Plus, you can load DX7 sysex patches into this thing. And, considering how many free patches are out there - plus editing with Dexed - the possibilities are endless.

@HousePlant_Ambient 3 ай бұрын

That Rings into Clouds semi-modular would sale BIG TIME

@TheTerracide 2 ай бұрын

Emilie Gilet of Mutable Instruments released her designs as open-source ... more like freeware. That is why they're used by Behringer, Arturia (in their MicroFreak) and others in their designs. Emilie has nothing to do with Behringer, no co-operaration between them coz Mutable Instruments stopped existing since a few years.

@planetweed 3 ай бұрын

'16 voice poly chain' is a bit misleading imo , as its a (mostly) monophonic device by itself (if you get 16 units , you can 'poly chain' them tho)

@Waldemar_la_Tendresse 3 ай бұрын

At least there shouldn't be any tuning issues with this one like with the Model D. Might be interesting. A polychain could as well partially replace the way to buggy MiniFreak.

@TheScreamingFrog916 3 ай бұрын

The problem for us in the USA, is that these things are announced waaaaay in advance, and then when they finally show up in Europe, they aren't available in the USA for a long time after, and then only limited stock. That said, I love all my Behringer gear, and am looking forward to the day, when previously announced gear, arrives on our shores.

@boriscat1999 3 ай бұрын

I sometimes order stuff from Thomann but the shipping is like $40+. Even with shipping, it's the cheapest way to get certain eurorack modules though (Doepfer, Rides in the Storm).

@minhuang8848 3 ай бұрын

@@boriscat1999 I was about to say that 40 bucks is a steal, but the price tag being what, 200 USD or so? Yeah I get it, that's fairly high. Sadly that's kind of par for the course across the industry, it takes a fair bit of time for equipment to travel around the globe.

@TheScreamingFrog916 3 ай бұрын

@@boriscat1999 yes, I have also resorted to buying from Australia, and Japan, to get some of my desired modules, when unavailable here in the US. But I will wait for most items, as I already have lots to play with :-)

@TheScreamingFrog916 3 ай бұрын

@@minhuang8848 we Americans are spoiled, and think the world revolves around us 😆 🌎

@wolfgangdevries127 3 ай бұрын

Not exactly. The units will be sold out instantly. So most possible EU customers have to wait as well

@traceoflife1234 2 ай бұрын

Every Mutable module can be found in the Poly Beebo.

@Waldemar_la_Tendresse 2 ай бұрын

@@traceoflife1234 Do all parameters have CV ins?

@MidnightatMidian 3 ай бұрын

I'm getting the Behringer Voicoder synth next week. I'm not sure if it was a great choice but man I love those old 80's synths...

@James-oh5iw 2 ай бұрын

Have they made a clone off of a Peak or Summit?

@stevewoywitka3258 3 ай бұрын

I'm starting to want one now

@bicycleninja1685 3 ай бұрын

I have the TD-3-MO and it's awesome

@SmallWorldBigThings 3 ай бұрын

I thought about it... finally decided to go with Roland TB-3. Maybe next time will be also TD-3-MO ;)

@MoeShinola1 3 ай бұрын

Man, I just sank $100 into a Behringer Pro VS Mini, now they come out with this new box. No fair.

@Pablo668 3 ай бұрын

I have a bunch of Behringer stuff. It's cheap and good. Many get upset every time they come out with clone of a vintage synth, but I think a lot of the originals just aren't a realistic proposition on price and/or maintenance costs. So you get a B clone which is decently priced, very similar in sound AND you get to learn the workflow of that particular synth. The last I think is very handy. Now, some of B's business practices (clones of equipment currently being manufactured/lawsuits etc) are very not good. But that is a separate issue.

@intotheshred 3 ай бұрын

If one washing machine company copies the innovations of another washing machine model no one cares. There isn’t some rule in life that you can only copy vintage washing machines that are no longer sold. Cloning is fine and everyone who bitches about it is dumb. Where there is a legitimate question around Behringer is all the other stuff. Employee abuse, suing journalists they don’t like, etc. That stuff is something people should be aware of. But cloning is fine.

@jennoscura2381 3 ай бұрын

This is their brains eurorack module as a self contained modular synth. If you have a eurorack setup and are impatient, get a brains. I have brains in my rack and it's awesome. I was thinking about getting a second brains. But I am going to wait for Grind.

@Waldemar_la_Tendresse 3 ай бұрын

The polychained version might become a serious competition for the way to buggy Arturia MiniFreak IF THEY DO IT RIGHT. 🤞🏻

@crnkmnky 3 ай бұрын

what are the major bugs? is it just the MiniFreak or MicroFreak too?

@Waldemar_la_Tendresse 3 ай бұрын

@@crnkmnky I have listed everything in Arturia's forum and stopped at about 10 (2 of the threads have been closed by them). I am sure they are way more, but I stopped out of pure disappointment of the device.

@Waldemar_la_Tendresse 3 ай бұрын

@@crnkmnky A completely stupid one: not being able to set pitch shift below 60 cents. I am not sure what their developers and testers do, I would fire all of them.

@videosarchive8058 3 ай бұрын

Where did you read this? Where is the citation? Thanks for great content as always.

@FuZZbaLLbee 3 ай бұрын

I’ll wait for the Moog version.

@Heavee773 3 ай бұрын

😂 u gone be waittttiiinnnggggg 😂

@Waldemar_la_Tendresse 2 ай бұрын

@@FuZZbaLLbee Have a chill life and be careful of the spider webs that form on your body. 😅

@JUKE179r 3 ай бұрын

The Behringer 2022 and future line is DOPE. Nuff said. 🎹

@Heavee773 3 ай бұрын

The next one is an fx box

@SmallWorldBigThings 3 ай бұрын

This one I am going to buy... I heard we have to wait for it 3-6 months :/

@douglaskane4708 3 ай бұрын

Mutable is open source, anyone can expand on or clone her work

@apparitionight 3 ай бұрын

Wild. I have the last Shruti. Some of the parts were just a BOM from parts in drawers at Mutable. Old days! 😂

@technodrone313 3 ай бұрын

i had the mini moog clone. paid 240 for it new during covid and sold it for over 300 like 2 years later

@synthsamuraiproductions 3 ай бұрын

CareBehrs and Behringer Bros unite!!!!

@RP-mp4ow 3 ай бұрын

Why something like this over the arturia microfreak?

@digitaldiezel5870 3 ай бұрын

Choice is good

@RP-mp4ow 3 ай бұрын

@@digitaldiezel5870 🙄

@dennismosercreativearts 3 ай бұрын

["BAY-rinjer" or "BEAR-rinjer"] :) thanks for talking about it... Thomann is saying in a couple months for under €200...

@Fetzenwolf 3 ай бұрын

Was könnte es kosten?

@matmoutvenom 3 ай бұрын

~200€

@geroblacksmith 3 ай бұрын

Yo pensé lo mismo, es mutable instruments in a box

@jennoscura2381 3 ай бұрын

Eso es. It's their brains eurorack module que es Plaits pero con mas cosas. They just took brains and made a self contained desktop synth. Tengo brains. It's fantastic. I can't wait to get a Grind.