Behringer Makes Arturia Keystep Clone - Cool or Not Cool?

[@LowHeatBeats]

For the record: I like some of Behringer's products and I feel it was totally unnecessary for them to make a copy of the Keystep, which costs almost the same and hasn't improved on the original in any way. What do you guys think?

[@shroomydaze]

hmm. My opinion on Behringer has changed over the years. Before I thought they were just a offering their own low quality products. Now I know them for their quite accurately represented copis of old analog synths. I mean being Behringer now means you make a copy of somethingf that is expensive , and offer the same product a lower vaue.

[@LowHeatBeats]

Yup, their synth clones are cheap and really good quality.

[@DBCisco]

Arturia can sue Behringer. Until then it is no one else's business.

[@LowHeatBeats]

@@DBCisco Yeah, I can agree with that, it's just what they are doing feels weird rubs people the wrong way.

[@DBCisco]

@@LowHeatBeats I just find it weird that the people crying foul have no problem with all the other clones with the excuse "Well I can't afford a vintage synth so cloning them is OK" even though it is technically and legally the same thing.

[@golf-freq]

Don't need a Keystep clone -- I need a Keystep Pro clone for half the cost.

[@LowHeatBeats]

What are you going to sequence with it? Do you have a DAWless setup.

[@lundsweden]

Good point

[@22DINGOS]

When guitar cloning started in Japan in the 70’s by companies like Takamine it was considered wrong and there were lawsuits. It only became normal after many companies gave up to fight what they did not have patents for

[@LowHeatBeats]

People always make the analogy with guitars, so that's definitely good to know, thank you for sharing this piece of info.

[@first___last]

I don't really have any problem with this but if they would have made with an actual mod/pitch wheel instead of the touch strips, or USB C, or if it actually feels better to play, I would be completely on board with it. There's nothing wrong with taking a pre-existing design and improving it. I already own a Keystep though.

[@LowHeatBeats]

True, actual mod wheels would be much better

[@wvo2m]

Try searching for Behringer Swing on Sweetwater.

[@LowHeatBeats]

lol just tried it, nice one

[@wvo2m]

@@LowHeatBeats cracked me up when I saw that.

[@electricarchaic]

Behringer I guess is just reminding people who they were/are. They were cool for cloning amazing analog synths that people have dreamed about owning but never could, but they were never cool like that previously... true colors :’f

[@LowHeatBeats]

Yup, they’ve always been like that, so I don’t understand why people are so surprised by this.

[@mdonchek]

I own a Keystep Pro. There's so much functionality in the Arturia product, and they put so much into the software and updates that Behringer could never compete with that product (the Pro version). Plus Arturia tech support is top notch too. I'd go with Arturia any day . . . As far as the Keystep goes, at this point compared to the Keystep Pro, the Keystep is ALMOST nothing too special in the sense that small midi controllers are a dime a dozen though . . . Anything besides the Arturia product is an imitation that will likely be lacking in either hardware, software, customer support, or a combination thereof. I might consider a Behringer Moog clone which is a fraction of the price and maybe adds some functionality but sacrifices in other areas. I just don't see why they did this, but imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

[@LowHeatBeats]

Thanks for your input on this. Well, they did it because that’s what they have always done.

[@dmdx6723]

i am a proud customer of both brands, arturia makes great controllers and behringer clones really well done, but honestly this could have been spared

[@LowHeatBeats]

Exactly

[@lundsweden]

It saved me some money, build is solid too.

[@LowHeatBeats]

For sure. Btw one year later from that video I bought my first Behringer synth and it’s great. Their products are very good, I just wish they didn’t do these blatant ripoffs.

[@babaka3278]

It’s really a shame, there is so much room for innovation in portable midi controller market, Behringer has so much money and instead of innovation they are cloning this? Shame... this is a cheap shot by behringer, they are becoming the Walmart of musics industry.

[@olafkliemt1145]

well, if you look at cheap Chinese copies by Worlde Panda which break after 3 weeks of use and are terrible overall we should be happy that there are "decent" copies by Behringer ;-)

[@LowHeatBeats]

Good point!

[@lundsweden]

You mean Worlde and Panda are no good?!

[@olafkliemt1145]

@@lundsweden the brand name is "Worlde Panda". cheap knock-offs of existing quality products like Akai and others. they don't last and MIDI setup is faulty.

[@corican]

The most common comment I have seen about this is that they are a great company and do amazing work with cloning vintage synths, but cloning an existing product so evidently is shameful.

[@LowHeatBeats]

Yeah, I just wonder why this one got so much attention, since it’s one of many such clones they’ve done.

[@ChillMusicRingo]

Awesome work as always

[@LowHeatBeats]

Thank you fam

[@cnfuzz]

Arturia put themselves when they claimed analog modelled software sounds exactly like the original ,and suddenly they made analog hardware , at least they could have admitted their software was just mockup and that it never was able to succesfully recreate an analog signal , its a bit jekyl and hyde that story

[@LowHeatBeats]

Not really cause their analog hardware isn’t an emulation (I don’t like their analog synths actually). And a software emulation of a h/w synth is a different thing altogether.

[@LiveReview]

Low Heat Beats Hello from another audio devices reviewer youtuber but in Russian language :) Hah.. thank you so much for this video with comparison and your opinion about new Behringer keyboard :) Very interesting video and good analitics info. Good job. I to watch like this kind of video. Interesting how this clone will be in production... But I am fully agree with you with same price is much better to take original, then take a clone :)

[@LowHeatBeats]

Thank you for the kind words man, glad you enjoyed the video. 🙏

[@LiveReview]

@@LowHeatBeats Just keep making cool content youtube bro :) You make a great job

[@LiveReview]

@@chellentano79 Ну тем более нет смысла тогда Behringer брать :) Артурия красавчики

[@LiveReview]

@@chellentano79 Прикол будет в том, что Ули прогореть может с ней :) Они его по любому наказывают таким забавным образом. Кстати надо бы себе когда-нибудь ее взять может быть :) А то сча Keystep Pro юзаю )) в довесок чтобы аппаратуру раскачивать))) Но я пока еще не уперся, но скоро уже точно упрусь (в нехватку доп)

[@cnfuzz]

Hey wolgang palm created the dco and wavetable in the 70s , how many japanese and american companys copied those in the 80s? He invented it , arturia doesnt invent they just cobble existing tech from others together , so there is no difference between behringer and arturia in that respect

[@LowHeatBeats]

You may have a point, but it’s not like they cloned the PPG synth

[@sotired9970]

At first hand, this seemed "OK" but after watching all the video, this is literally just a flat-out copy of Arturia's product. I feel like the CEO of Behringer got sidelined a bit by his engineers, and maybe wasn't aware of the Arturia product? If they retracted the product, they open themselves up to litigation, because then it's insinuated that they did indeed "copy" the product, and then tried to hide it.. Unfortunately for Arturia, the don't have any legal standing to fight it, unless they have some patents for the product....real immoral of Behringer. This even seems to be their game at this point. Find products that they can clone without getting sued, and extract more profit from other people's products by mass production.

[@LowHeatBeats]

Yeah, but they’ve always done this. For some reason this time it got a lot of attention, maybe because the Keystep is so popular.

[@ethosannihilator]

I'm selling the one piece of behringer gear I have and I won't be buying anymore.

[@LowHeatBeats]

The only Behringer thing I have currently is a Pro-1. I have to admit it’s pretty good.

[@tommyg5095]

Not cool in my honest opinion.. Not a very good business choice in my opinion. What does this offer the consumer, over the Arturia... ???

[@LowHeatBeats]

Yup, it doesn’t improve on the shortcomings of the Keystep

[@martinaleksandrov7080]

Is the keybed quality worse or better?

[@LowHeatBeats]

​@@martinaleksandrov7080 No idea, I meant shortcomings in terms of features. The Keystep keys are decent actually.

[@martinaleksandrov7080]

@@LowHeatBeats yea i own the jeystep as well as the new keystep 37. So i wonder if its exactly the same also in terms of feel and performance

[@KiR_3d]

Buy and compare! Do I need to watch another 5-10 mins of nothing? No.

[@LowHeatBeats]

It's a commentary/reaction video as the title suggests. Did you expect a review or comparison? Also, the Swing isn't on the market yet, how can I buy it?

[@KiR_3d]

@@LowHeatBeats it's not? Well :) But I call these videos "blah-blah videos"... Everything about that ppl understand anyway. Most of people. Without offences!

[@LowHeatBeats]

@@KiR_3d I rarely make such videos, most of my videos are actually making music and tutorials. But they seem to provoke a discussion in the comment section, so I guess they are interesting to some viewers. But I understand what you mean and I appreciate the honest feedback!

[@pocojoyo]

COOL