Being an Apprentice of Jesus | John Mark Comer | They Happy Hour With Jamie Ivey

[@KathyHickey-mv3tr]

Great episode!❤

[@debralee1401]

Oh wow, the explanation of hitting the wall ... this has happened to me at least 3 times where I turned to different religious systems; Im at it again, but not turning away this time, in the process of walking through.

[@darrylcarlton7958]

Alright, I “bit the bullet.” Even though I’m far from a wealthy man, I just ordered “Practicing the Way” from Thriftbooks for $21.75, which is far more than I am usually willing to spend on a book. (At least, I got a $5.00 discount, something Thriftbooks is famous for.) But, after spending a couple of months listening to John Mark, I just HAD to HAVE this book! I’m sure it will be worth it! Blessings to all fans of JMC, and especially to all lovers of Jesus Himself! Amen!

[@viennehaake9149]

I got the book- love the apprentice word- a noun. actually do it- the head knowledge/ seeking/studying, reading, is necessary- but it doesn t stop there. I stopped there. I don't act like Jesus and I can't white knuckle it. A surgeon could read and watch how to do an appendectomy- bet he has to DO IT to get good and develope a "muscle memory". I grew up in a once saved, always saved, going to heaven era of evangelicals/christians. Thx great interview and book. Blessings JM.

[@anal.mendoza]

Hi Jame, thanks for sharing this conversation with John, I really love it! May the Lord bless you from Santo Domngo, Dominican Republic.

[@timsmith7224]

Don’t be deceived! If it new if it’s out of the box if it’s spin then it’s NOT BIBLE AND IT’s NOT JESUS This Comer guy is a deceiver and seeking to use God’s Holy Name to promote Comers name ! Another Cato Lentz ! Tge gut dies not know Jesus snd is a blind guide leading IGNORANT biblically ignorant Christian’s in ti a false light leading straight to Hell! Jesus said do not be deceived ! For many will come in my name and lead many astray ! This guy is one of them ! Lazy not wanting to work but rather manipulating the flock and writing damnable books of false doctrine ! Wouldn’t surprise me if he had hired a ghost writer to do the work!

[@curtisroth]

This sounds more like practicing without the Presence/influence of the Holy Spirit. Like trying to learn to do it all without him instead of him doing it through us. 43:50

[@glennw3909]

We can do nothing without the Holy Spirit. Amen.

[@jholman714]

To me this recent push for discipleship (or apprenticeship) seems like going backwards from the New to an Old Covenant mindset. The Old Covenant focused outwardly on what we are commanded to do or not do. The New Covenant focuses much more on knowing and believing our new identity in Christ and our inward transformation when our spirit, previously dead in sin is recreated in righteousness and true holiness. It’s interesting to note that the word disciple is not used at all after the book of Acts in any of Paul’s letters to the church. There were no Christians/Believers during Jesus earthly ministry, but there were plenty of disciples following lots of different Rabbis. Jesus was much more than just another Rabbi, just with way better life advice. Paul’s epistles focus instead on realizing that we’re Sons, not just learners or pupils (the definition of the word disciple). He wants us to understand that we’re to see God as our Father, and ourselves in Christ (one with Him), and made eternally righteous by His blood. To imply that a disciple is some kind of super or higher level Christian does nothing but glorify man and his efforts, not Christ and His finished work. The church is spending too much time trying to pull New Covenant truths from Jesus’ earthly ministry, a time when the New Covenant was not yet in effect, that we neglect everything He said after He died and rose again, revealed to and through the Apostle Paul. Much of what Jesus taught on earth was not for the New Testament church, and was instead meant to show us that we could never keep His perfect Law, causing us to despair and see our need for a Savior. Most churches teach much more from Matthew, Mark, Luke and John than from the actual New Testament epistles. I have to disagree with your assertion that just learning more from the Bible, or hearing more sermons won’t change you. That may be true if you’re hearing the wrong things taught, or misunderstanding what you’re reading in God’s Word (which unfortunately are both very common in the modern church). Hearing the Gospel preached absolutely causes change in believers’ lives. The reason you don’t see these results in the church today is because the majority of churches are not preaching the pure, New Covenant Gospel, without Old Covenant Law teaching mixed in, causing alot of confusion and frustration in the lives of believers. When the Law is preached, it stirs our sinful flesh and gives strength to sin (including that irritability with our family members you mentioned)(this is also the reason for the current lust/pornography problem many in the church are struggling with)(this is why there are more porn searches coming from the Bible Belt of the United States;the more sins like this are preached against, the more we will see them manifest in Christians’ lives). The more you hear the true Gospel of Grace preached, and the more you see Jesus in His Word, the more you’ll become like Him, changed from glory to glory, just by beholding Him. The old dead leaves of sin and self righteousness will just fall off, and in their place, the fruit of the spirit will grow, without our self effort (and often without our awareness, until we realize that those sins we always struggled so much with aren’t manifesting anymore). Often the results of spiritual growth and our ongoing sanctification are visible to others before we see them. When this happens in our lives (without our self effort), Jesus gets all the glory. When we feel like we had a part to play in our own spiritual growth, and our focus is even slightly on our own obedience, instead of Jesus’ obedience at the cross, we can easily become self righteous and judgmental of our fellow believers that are less mature, or are still having issues with the sins that we’ve already seen the victory over. True change that Jesus causes in us from the inside out by His Grace, simply by resting in and focusing on what He accomplished for us at the cross is often slower than the results we see when we try to do it ourselves, but it is the only true change that will last and will ultimately cause us to be truly thankful and give Him all the glory for all eternity for His mercy and grace toward us.

[@christianbaxter_yt]

Propositions making a Christian or living as a Christian making a Christian. Is not an either or, it is a both. Master and his emissary… the world is changing and is getting deeper, pushing past truth as is primary defining principle, to a balance adding the intrinsic nature of Beauty. A life that knows all the truth, but looks bland or stale; is only truly embodied when grounded in intrinsic beauty. The opposite is also true leading to vanity type of vanity.