John I don't know how you haven't more subscribers. Your channel is excellent and varied. Also you are well informed and an excellent interviewer. Subcriper from Drogheda 💙💜💙💜
@Damiansweldingshortz4 ай бұрын
I’m from Birmingham with a northern Irish mom and a English dad and growing up I was constantly having to explain to my mates that the north is British not Irish but in general I get the feeling no body in England was bothered about the troubles
@jameslarkin84944 ай бұрын
No wonder no-one was bothered coming away with that nonsence that your not Irish. See a doctor as quick as possible.
@liam90724 ай бұрын
It's Irish, always has been always will be
@Tyrekickingwetdreamer4 ай бұрын
You like so many in the past and present are wrong As was the rest of Ireland illegally occupied by a foreign country but no more the rest of Ireland will follow
@noramcloughlin-docherty3537Ай бұрын
1st generation irish canadian here. I taught in Sheffield in '96/7 & there was a lot of hatred for the irish.
@mackfin88694 ай бұрын
It’s bringing back bad memories.Grew up in Islington in the 80s . English people in General treated us well considering bombs were going off .When i thought of Birmingham as a kid or I heard of Birmingham on the news I thought it was a bad place to be if you were Irish .COYG
@clario21784 ай бұрын
It was bad for us .UTV
@A.Mardle4 ай бұрын
The Irish were very unpopular because many were young single people who were a long way from home and all restraining influences. They liked to drink and dance and made a lot of noise at night. They were perceived as bad neighbours who were a nuisance in densely populated working class areas. There were similar issues with black immigrants.
@PropagandaAnonymous3 ай бұрын
And what were they doing during the day? WORKING on the infrastructure of a Land that exploited their country for hundreds of years. So I guess a few late nights is forgivable yeah?
@PaulCarew-j9j9 күн бұрын
So not much stereotyping from you then. So English people don't also make noise, get drunk and cause trouble.
@seaniek91754 ай бұрын
I lived in London in the 80's and early 90's and in the main had a great experience where I never had any blow back as a result of the IRA bombing campaign. The only thing I did experience the odd time was Irish jokes and the thick Paddy stereotype. I think I would have preferred anti Irish sentiment as a result of the IRA campaign rather than the irish stereotypes
@denishannan14084 ай бұрын
Brilliant account, I played many times in Glebe Farm. Thank you.
@patrickglennon70584 ай бұрын
Curly Watts
@metamoralia3 ай бұрын
Very interesting, hope you have him back!
@PatrickLawrence-rn1tv3 ай бұрын
another good chat keep them coming it would be good if u could get Geary Adams on god bless Ireland 🇮🇪
@StephenBoyle-o9l4 ай бұрын
What a great episode i definitely have to look into the dr's stuff sounds intriguing. I saw it in East London in dalston in the 70s as a kid No blacks No dogs And no irish, i did chuckle that we were lower than dogs But seeing that as an irish kid in london wasnt very cool but im very proud of being from west belfast i would try to not let it effect me but it was funny to see how the troubles and the irish were portrayed in London was funny strange days indeed 💚
@davidpryle39354 ай бұрын
Any premises in Britain in the 1970s displaying a sign saying “no blacks no dogs no Irish” would have been heavily fined and possibly closed down, under the 1960s race discrimination laws. This legend only came about in the 1980s when this particular sign was mocked up by Irish activists for an Irish cultural event in London, in an attempt to link the Irish to the undoubted and documented discrimination (“no coloureds”), suffered by people from the Caribbean and the Subcontinent before the introduction of the race discrimination laws. The Irish activists succeeded in this linking, beyond their wildest dreams, as many people nowadays wrongly believe that this particular sign was all over the place. I have even seen people online claiming to have seen this sign in the 1990s, which is impossible. What they actually saw was the photo of the mocked up sign.
@KeithWilliamMacHendry4 ай бұрын
Smashing interview, what an intelligent, pragmatic & interesting man Dr. Flavin is to listen to, thoroughly enjoyed this John. Now I'm off to watch the men of Scotia panel the Germans in the fitba. 🤪Alba gu bath! 💙✊🏻🏴
@MichaelKng-fk5jkАй бұрын
I'm skeptical after the statement of being told rubber (plastic) bullets were modified by soldiers with razor blades. Impossible to even try the such with a baton round / rubber bullets. The plastic was inadaptable. The baton round was sealed, unable to open without force and then unfirable so, the claim of adapting them is lies. The actual worst part of a baton round was if it ricochet, hence picking up speed and often not of course in the intended direction
@thewesties87254 ай бұрын
It's funny as a protestant i experienced hate from some English people when i lived there attending university. They would call me 'Paddy'.
@kenny10574 ай бұрын
Getting called paddy is hardly hate mate
@thewesties87254 ай бұрын
@@kenny1057 it is to me.
@KatieKettleАй бұрын
I never heard that no Irish need apply in England here in Boston these signs were all over the city around 1900.
@pm4331k4 ай бұрын
He knows little about the Irish Birmingham. There was no IRA in 1963 when I was told to "get back to your bogs, you thick Irish " and that was the school teachers. Most kids hid behind a Brummie accent.
@RobertOtoole-jo5bg4 ай бұрын
Gerry Adam's grandparents were behind the dynamite campaign in the uk in the late 1800s ✔
@RobertOtoole-jo5bg4 ай бұрын
@freebeerfordworkers iv half scouse half dublin 🤫☘❤❤💚
@groffus114 ай бұрын
i saw this sign in an English bar is Spain. It exists. I have also had very bad experiences in England. I have also had some wonderful experiences with the English people.
@noramcloughlin-docherty3537Ай бұрын
I'm still stuck on the fact he said he dislikes Irish music, yet went to the wolfe tones concert. I would like to have the interviewer tease out more some of the irishphobia esp the self-hating kind.
@StephenLyons-i4v4 ай бұрын
I live in London I saw it 💯
@EileenGoehring-lb8hy4 ай бұрын
My Granddad was from county Cork, my Mum was English, wish I'd Known my Father side
@RobertOtoole-jo5bg4 ай бұрын
Me my mam, dad and brother went to Birmingham to see family from dublin,living in Birmingham now 40 years ,but in 1990/91 . My mam brought me and my brother to a park in Birmingham, my mam told me that we got bullied out of the park coz of our accents.i was 4 ?
@unknowman19554 ай бұрын
hope you're back in oirland
@RobertOtoole-jo5bg4 ай бұрын
@@unknowman1955 I am. Yes, if flying over to the uk in a day or week or so for some leisure time, 👍 dual citizenship in all 👌
@Cromwelldunbar2 ай бұрын
And yet…Ireland - his Country - had conducted a bombing campaign in 1939 before WW2 started - Coventry 25.8.1939 - Ireland stayed neutral throughout the War - why shouldn‘t some Brits think the way he objects to…And although neutral in WW2 Ireland benefitted from the Marshall Plan the purpose of which was to help European countries ruined by their involvement in the War…and why was the Urush economy so bad that his family had to seek work in Britain…? Not a single syllable of thanks to Britain and they are still at it! The IRA is an extreme right wing Organisation ie extremely nationalistic to the point of utter hatred towards the English…
@johnallen53384 ай бұрын
Refused in a Welsh pub for being English 😢
@elizabethswan20403 күн бұрын
😂
@DamiansweldingshortzАй бұрын
Football brought together the multi cultural community in Birmingham
@thegoodlistenerpodcast4 ай бұрын
00:00 “NO BLACKS NO DOGS NO IRISH” sign- was it real?? 03:50 Michael’s parents move to England 07:05 Many other children of immigrants ? 08:50 BIRMINGHAM B*MBINGS impact on Michael’s life 20:20 Gerry Adams leadership writings 26:30 INLA splits 54:30 Do most English people consider Northern Irish people to be “British” ?
@dgmmo4 ай бұрын
As a widow of one if rhe founding members of the INLA in 1996 please be careful where and who you get your information from
@thegoodlistenerpodcast4 ай бұрын
@@dgmmo thank you.. if there’s anything you’d like to correct or important details missed please shoot me an email thegoodlistenerpodcast@gmail.com (in strict confidence, I wouldn’t share any info)
@nicenac4 ай бұрын
This guy looks a bit like a younger version of Richard Dawkins!!
@jamesjarrett524 ай бұрын
Helloooo dehr!
@NorthernIrishCitizensAlliance4 ай бұрын
The state now identified as The Republic of Ireland was formed as a sectarian state 102 years ago. Northern Ireland or Ulster has been a country for many, many millennia with absolutely no sovereign connection to the Southern Kingdoms or Southern Ireland ever. All religious denominations thived and grow in Northern Ireland, but unfortunately Protestants in the Republic of Ireland have been largely driven out. The Protestant population has dropped from 11% to 3% since 1911 and the creation of what is now the Republic of Ireland. Dublin has also been engaged in expansionist proxy incursions, false flag operations and ethnic cleansing episodes to eradicate the Northern Irish like the Ulster Plantations for centuries, so the two countries or their historical violence should not be confused with one another. This programme of denial of the Northern Ireland or Ulster states right to exist and the ethnic cleansing of the Northern Irish, is still a work in progress by Dublin, but failing miserably after centuries of massive effort, gas-lighting, ethnic cleansing, genocide and loss of life. The Northern Irish are the king makers in Northern Ireland and the future, not Irish Republicans or those that foolishly identify as British.
@timothyoreilly66754 ай бұрын
Are you trying to achieve an independent Northern Ireland?
@davidpryle39354 ай бұрын
@NorthernIrishCitizensAlliance. I doubt very much will you ever get a job as a history teacher. On the other hand, you may have a future as a pseudo history teacher.
@NorthernIrishCitizensAlliance4 ай бұрын
@@timothyoreilly6675 An independent Northern Ireland would be infinitely preferable to joining Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan in demographic oblivion and mass poverty.
@NorthernIrishCitizensAlliance4 ай бұрын
@@davidpryle3935 Thanks for your comment. We deal in facts but it’s not possible to educate the misinformed when they confine themselves to generalise insults such as yours. You should try to improve yourself by challenging the gas lighting you have been spoon fed, doing genuine research so that in any future challenges you make, you can be specific, not just offensive. Thanks again for your comment,
@davidpryle39354 ай бұрын
@@NorthernIrishCitizensAlliance On the contrary, I am very familiar with this subject, and can see all sides of this particular argument. But anyone saying that Ulster, the most Gaelic province on the island of Ireland until the 1600s, the province most resistant to English rule, had nothing to do with the rest of Ireland, cannot be taken seriously.
@trishareynolds80113 ай бұрын
😊😂😢
@mackfin88694 ай бұрын
Yeah it did excist
@trishareynolds80113 ай бұрын
Yuk what ignorant views!
@whittenoval4 ай бұрын
There is plenty of photos that these notices did exist. Come on, re writing history here. A recent video on the irish in birmingham , clearly shows one of these notices in the window. My parents went to england ( liverpool) in the 1950s . By and large they did ok. However, in the early seventies things changed and they left . They saw racism first hand, aimed at the black community and themselves. Blacks couldnt even go into the city centre.
@davidpryle39354 ай бұрын
That’s the thing you see. There is only one photo of this particular sign “no blacks no dogs no Irish”, and it is of very dubious origin. On the other hand there are tons of photos of signs saying “no coloureds”.
@InglebertHumptyDump4 ай бұрын
Blacks and Irish are not the same. Irish were workers in the UK and had been colonised for around a 1000 years. The Irish have cultural and racial similarities with British people. Irish should be allowed to live in the UK, blacks should not - neither should Indians or Chinese.