BELDAM BOSS FIGHT! Coraline Explained - Scene 34 | The Fangirl Scene-ic Saturdays

[@geddyw]

10:20 The line about "even if you win, she'll never let you go" reminded me a lot of the Stephen King story 1408, where a notable line is when the room talks to Mike Enslin, the voice says "even if you leave this room, you can never leave this room". Which goes into the theory that Mike never escaped the room and was also trapped forever

[@jdblue9460]

I wonder if the reason Coraline cannot tap into the power of the eyes is because in order to use that power, it might require to give up something like maybe the users eyes. Remmeber how even when we see the beldam make real eyes for herself, there a copy of Mel's eyes! Not the Beldam's REAL eyes! Maybe that might explain the house being alive. I think to defeat the beldam, maybe one would need to find the beldam's eyes among surrounding illusions and set the beldam's eyes free.

[@brennaflaherty8871]

That's a good theory. Changelings didn't have button eyes so maybe she was a changeling who sacrificed her eyes to gain more power or a human who sacrificed her eyes to become a changeling.

[@raven6565]

I love this theory.

[@marzana07]

The seeing-stone would not melt if it were made of stone but we see Spink ''create'' it out of the taffy dish. If it is made out of hardened taffy, then it would definitely melt.

[@Luca-gb8wp]

The wedding dress is so gorgeous

[@denisejeffries2675]

🖤MY FAVORITE SCENE!!!🖤 I love the lighting, sound, jerky motions, slicing and clicking sounds of the Beldam’s body. Ah, and when she talks about bringing Vermin and the sound of her voice when she says, “You know I love you.” Perfection! It’s just so good, gets me every time!!!

[@YasmeenMO]

The cat said nope I'm out of here and the beldam Falling down was so unsettling

[@Lucasifii]

I still can’t get over how it looks like the cats eye is on the left of the beldam’s head when she gets kicked.. man

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I'll have to go slow over that scene, I haven't noticed that!

[@Lucasifii]

@@TheFangirlWatches 18:13, it’s still a bit far fetched though but it’s so interesting

[@BBMacsWorld]

I love how scary the beldams true form is. Amazing character design. Also, what you said abo7t the house being alive kinda reminded me of Monster House. Maybe the house is actually haunted by one more ghost 👀

[@Sparrow9612]

'The eyes are the windows to the soul.'

[@a_weak_ago]

I think the seeing “stone” was able to melt because technically it was hair-pin carved/chopped out of old Candy lmao

[@WxddingTheFox]

The picture in the hallway is definitely coraline’s room as you can see from the furniture, but it looks like a different angle of it, or maybe a previous version of it that the other ghost children had.

[@WxddingTheFox]

And also,I think the bug furniture are robots, that only the beldam can control (as seen with the other father, wybie) but unlike them, they have no control over er themselves bc they were created to obey, they can’t do anything because they were meant to be furniture, so it’s not like they can run and save Coraline. I don’t know, maybe I’m overthinking. (and that’s why when the room was falling apart none of them could move.)

[@IsabellaManoutcharian]

For your idea of the beldam having another eye: I think she gave up her own eyes to power the house

[@cynthiacano84]

When you mentioned that the Beldam must have more eyes other than the kids (at least one more set), I wonder if it's Coraline's. She's probably been syphoning Coraline's energy throughout, or maybe it's to do with Coraline perceiving that world that gives it form - maybe that's what the eyes do? It lends a little to the "i'll die without you" screams as well...

[@Napryano4kaAfton]

What scares me the most is that Beldam's face splits when kicked. If anything, Theorizer noticed it and not me.

[@Aceali2210]

Could you also analyze the deleted scenes cuz some of them really put the movie in a different light and you could also try and see if you can figure out where there suppose to be in the movies timeline

[@Torichan888]

I assumed that Performing Spink and Forcible had painted their button eyes.

[@keirarawlings1733]

Got to the end and the last video is premium 😫

[@denisejeffries2675]

??? I watched to the end and did not see anything about this.

[@keirarawlings1733]

@@denisejeffries2675 are you a channel member? Also, I mean the series not this video. The last video of this playlist is exclusive 😒 wasted my time

[@brennaflaherty8871]

For why Coraline doesn't use the power from the spheres, I think it's because she'd need to be magical like the Beldam to use it (like how Hades ember in Descendants 3 only worked for him and other people who were his blood but with being magical rather than blood) or it's something only the Beldam can use(like how Evie's magic mirror in Descendants only worked for her). Also for why the atter stone melted, it's because it's not stone, it's made of hard taffy.

[@AdaraFukuchi]

you forgot to mention that her head split into two. i was hoping you could explain that.

[@moonchild4648]

18:14 OMG! look at the beldam's face after Coraline kicks it! it splits in two! I'd never noticed that before!

[@Redjay_Lee]

I have a few possible explanations for some of the parts you questioned! These explications sort of angle more towards the “coraline escaped” side, but I still thought they might be neat! The other mother herself could be a power source the way the ghost kids “eyes” are. She mainly stays confined to the pink palace (minus meeting coraline at the top of the stairs after the theatre show), so she could be powering the pink palace area. Which could explain why it didn’t go into the void. For the bedlam losing her button eyes, it could be that since she had them physically removed- she may not be able to “regenerate” them as they could’ve been the original ones. Sort of a “as long as you have the original item, you can make illusions/new items” situation. And lastly, the ghost kids may not have been able to help earlier because they weren’t “strong” enough. They had just been powering other attractions for who knows how many years, only to be yanked out suddenly. They might have needed time to “recharge”- and luckily, were able to recharge enough to help pull the door closed! I’m not sure how much these may hold up, but it’s fun to think about! Wait I just remembered- maybe the reason we only see six limbs in the Other Mothers final form, is because it’s *not* her final form. What if there was a scarier version that coraline didn’t get to see?

[@johnmorgan8558]

The breathing walls seem to stop breathing when the web appears as though all the magic is gone the other world is literally hanging together by spider thread. Also do you notice the beldams face split open when Coraline kicks her? I’ve all seen concept art of the beldam with a split face

[@laurabramblett5136]

@6:00 she kinda' reminds me of the bog witch from Legend, Meg Mucklebones. Also, the shot ypu used for this video's thumbnail looks like Coraline is flipping her the double finger. 😂

[@Lucia-kc7kl]

I love the idea of the house being alive, like monster house movie

[@TherealGisselle]

If you watch back when coraline kicks the beldam in the face, the beldams face briefly splits open 😬😧

[@tarahickeygl0147]

18:16 😱 I'm so going to have nightmares of the split jeèeeeeeez

[@simplysavyyy]

I can’t believe I actually passed that part on my own as a kid. 😭 it’s truly horrific in the game.

[@orleansartist6095]

0:39 looks like Zero the dog from Nightmare Before Christmas, on the left side of the screen. Also there are several mouths with sharp teeth in this image.

[@Thedarkestlilli]

Thank you for making these videos! I've really been enjoying them. Coraline being in limbo has struck a cord with me. about 3-4 months ago after a year of intense lucid dreams, I had a dream that I entered a coma, was greeted by a dead relative that I wasn't close with (I have others I would of rather seen tbh) he looked almost cartoonish and he told me that "This was it" that I died. I started freaking out, and then started having a sequence of false awakenings. It would like I would wake up and get out of bed only to notice little details off in my bedroom. One of them being a calendar and my black cats litter box being in a different area... once I would realize things being off I would wake back up laying down on my back... still in bed. This happened 3 times before I last Dreamt of meeting a very old thin lady named "grammy" I didn't recognize her. It was very scary and My life has only been getting worse since it happened. This all reminds me of Coraline and Im a little freaked

[@elisezimmerman9603]

Okay the boy in blue with the ice cream, his clothes are in the corridor when she's doing her last "escape" he is the missing soul keeping her powerful. Also my guess the first victim 🤷‍♀️ I honestly thought about it as the world the beldum is in is rejecting her without her power, as one does with a parasite. Without her magic the other world (being an older and more powerful entity explained in the book) can get rid of her. That's why she's afraid she'll die without Coraline (OM yells that when the corridor is shrinking)

[@michelled.4874]

Of course the house and the Other World itself is alive and breathing, and yes the original book strongly hints at this. Watch the Theorizer's video, "Coraline: Literally every mystery solved (theory)", ALL OF IT, especially part 9 through 13, he explains who the true villains in "Coraline" is and hint, hint it's NOT the Beldam, there's something far worse and far more ancient and evil than her out there and Gaiman's original book itself says so: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2SvlWCrYrufj7s Also, Coraline never escaped/left the Other World and she was just getting deeper and deeper into the belly of the beast every time she fell asleep in the Other World and then walked through tunnels/portals, she's still trapped in a fake illusory copy of the real world: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKuQpouuabKMfa8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/npuWaGh3psx3Zq8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXSQqIlmmM-Zhq8 "The best way to keep a prisoner from escaping is to make sure he never knows he's in prison" - Fyodor Dostoevsky. The book (by Neil Gaiman) makes it a lot more clear but the Other Mother is just a parasitic creature living in the throat of the TRUE MONSTER. As the book goes on you hear more references to SOMETHING STRONGER (something "very old/ancient and very slow" at that time but it's getting STRONGER), and eventually it begins to WAKE UP as coraline "escapes". The Other World (including his portals, like the one used by Coraline) is an ancient and evil entity and a parasitic eldritch abomination plane of existence that drains the life of all who enters it, his physical embodiment appears in the form of a "cat". The corridor/tunnel/portal is the "cat" 's throat and the well with "it's sky full of stars" where the Beldam sent the doll floating at the beginning of the movie is another portal and the "cat" 's esophagus, taking a portal/tunnel to the Other World is to go straight into the belly of the (demonic) beast. It's all so lovecraftian eldritch horror, isn't? The reason the "cat" has no "real name" is because he's so ancient that humans have forgotten what he is and what he was called and because giving away his "real name" would give others power over him. But of course he lies about that and claims to be just a dumb cat and that he thinks that cats "don't need" names. Watch The Theorizer's Coraline theory series, especially part 9 through 13... Mimi.

[@xarenanotmyrealname4134]

I really don't think that even if Coraline thought of it she would have been able to use the ghost eyes powers mainly because I think they just hold the spirit of the child the real power is with the Beldam who's already consumed the soul if your theory here is correct the power wouldn't have to be the eyes themselves it's just something to distract and redirect Coraline.

[@laurabramblett5136]

@2:19 "It always has to be night in the Pink Palace" Like,,, At the bottom of a well? Mabe Whybie's warning at the beginning of the movie didn't stop Coraline and she still fell into the well?

[@GBear625]

I always thought it was interesting that the Beldam went completely blind once her button eyes were removed. I always felt she could see through ALL the button eyes, and there are still button eyes on furniture in her den. So shouldn't she have been able to see through them. Also if the Beldam cannot manipulate space in the real world, how is she able to change the length of the tunnel when she is beating down the door? I feel at a certain point she would cross into the "real world" territory and couldn't change or create space anymore. It reinforces your theory that Caroline never actually escapes the other world.

[@Lucia-kc7kl]

My tattoo ❤❤😂

[@joke1able]

Did you notice that when Coraline kicks the beldam in her face at the door, the beldam's face splits in two. It re-seams together very quickly.

[@laurabramblett5136]

@16:29 - @16:47 The missing two appendages, perhaps Coraline isn't the first child to fight back and the previous child/children caused her to lose an arm or two? I mean, she's practically Edwawina Scissorhands right now. She's finked her way out of a few Fairy Deals before and has, due to Grandma's diligence, failed to get ahold of another child for at least 49 years at this point, but if she has other portals who's to say she hasn't tried somewhere else and failed?

[@bellerosecrafts8014]

I'm pretty sure the seeing stone was made out of candy

[@lukehannah4554]

I believe the Beldam has to sew buttons into the children’s eyes before she consumes their souls that way they belong to her world and their souls will stay there because if she were to consume them without sewing their buttons, the children would go straight to the afterlife instead

[@adammartinez8061]

P.S Even if Coraline actually did get home……then when the Beldam was screaming behind the door, I remember hearing a comment stating that It’s almost like something was out to get the Beldam from behind the door. Like something was after her, hence why she got hysterical.

[@tarahickeygl0147]

20:17 yah she secramed " I'll die whiteout you!" The comments say that it's made them have nightmares that got stuck in my head in a loop 😫

[@Papyrus_Basket]

Made it to the end🎉

[@TherealGisselle]

WHEN THE TUNNEL IS HEADED TOWARDS CORALINE THE BORING BLUE BOYS CLOTHES ARE AT THE ENTRANCE 😮

[@tarahickeygl0147]

20:19 your right the theories pont it out I never saw that

[@tarahickeygl0147]

Also the green light that flashed when the tunnel is headed towards coraline wasn't the first time we see this back in 11:04 we see a green light coming from "the real world" and we don't see a green light in coralines house that's still the other world and the 3rd time we see the green light is when coraline is getting dragged by the hand we zoom to the pink palace and the green light is still flashing if Mel and Charlie are real and not puppets they would be hearing the banging and go investigate the loud beating on the door also the cat disappearing at the end of the movie he was going back to the other world we is posed by wabes dad and verman

[@spanishmonkey8366]

Hey Megan I think they made the other mother a spider inspite not having 8 legs because not all spiders have 8 legs

[@beth_ff]

What if the beldam saying “I see you brought vermin” - meaning Coraline as opposed to the cat. And then why didn’t the beldom pierce her fingers in the cat when she supposedly doesn’t like him? Then as for what the beldam could be, I think she could be a raspy cricket? They produce silk, are nocturnal (which is why the other world is always at night) - during the day they rest (which is why coraline couldn’t come to the other world when her “real” mother goes shopping), they are also omnivores, are wingless, & it has one of the most strongest bites of the insect world - hope that’s something to think about ☺️

[@brockenwings5462]

OK, wanna call this out, but that looks very similar to the tunnel that Coraline escaped through the first time it even includes the little blue boys shirt

[@brockenwings5462]

Also play references are everywhere almost as if they wanted us to realize this was all an act, and that none of this was real

[@serphina321]

You' know I wonder if the beldam will look. On this game with Coraline fondly as a type of fun for her becouse fey like to use words and tricks but do often still leave a chance to win as it's kinda part of there rules so I wonder if the long con and even after damage that the beldom will haveike a scrap book or something similar besides Coraline herself as a keepsake of the event lol

[@laurabramblett5136]

Also, I remember it was in the book, but I thought it was in the movie, too... Didn't she swear on her hand with this agreement? I've read a romance novel series that focuses on Fae and Fairies and the like where there is a lot of empathise on how a deal with "The Fae Folk" is binding. Like, a Human can back out of the deal, but the Fae/Fairy/Angel/Demon that backs out of the deal or fails to hold up their end forfeits their life. Perhaps, the loophole is that the Beldame never shook when Coraline agreed to the deal so it's not seen as a true deal?

[@1superstar817]

How tall do you think The Beldam is in her true form. When I googled it, it said 15 feet.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

15 feet seems too high to me, maybe 8-9?

[@1superstar817]

@@TheFangirlWatches I thought maybe 10 feet.

[@sighingsaichania7033]

I made it to the end 😄

[@ThomasWilson-yc7ht]

Coraline can't use the power of the souls because she isn't a creature capable of channeling that power. If you aren't a fish, can you breath water? Can the fish walk on land without legs? The Beldam is an entity that can use this power, Coraline isn't. The souls aren't magical trinkets like the One Ring that anyone can use, their value to the Beldam is different than their value to Coraline. I think there is also some merit to @jdblue9460 saying there needs to be an exchange. Beldam keeps pushing for the button eyes as a kind of contract. Being tricked into the game is a way for the Beldam to force Coraline to willingly accept the buttons without having to pretend anymore. Beldam is hungry and wants the power of another soul, so she agrees thinking beating an 11 year old will be easy.

[@sunakina]

There is a video game?

[@byronmarrow5264]

coraline 2 maybe we get the answer

[@pibawww]

hi

[@martinlyons3028]

Nice tattot❤❤😊

[@icyvalleygurl2702]

Pretty sure some spiders have 6 legs

[@BridgetPrincessofHearts]

Here's a good one Coraline never found her parents because the beldam is her mom in disguise and near the end of the movie the beldam comes back with Charlie with snow on their clothes. And the beldam is a jurogumo a half woman and spider creature

[@raven6565]

Spiders can't live in extreme cold.

[@BridgetPrincessofHearts]

​@@raven6565She's a jurogumo which means she can be in extreme cold

[@raven6565]

@TheDragonEmpress26 Jurogumo is a spider that has lived a thousand years and gained magic and more sentience. In their mythology, they typically are found in mountain regions, not of the cold snowy variety.

[@BridgetPrincessofHearts]

​@@raven6565I know the mythology about the jurogumo and also in mythology that a jurogumo is a half woman with a spider's body and as seen in Coraline the beldam has two features a woman with a spider's body she also has eight legs near the end of the movie

[@raven6565]

@TheDragonEmpress26 It takes on a the features of a woman but isn't. In the breakdown of the video Megan says the Beldam has 6 limbs, not a spider's eight. I'm sorry if it seems like I'm being antagonistic, that is not my intention.