Thanks for all the comments. Sad to say I’m no longer ringing but the time I spent on this was very enjoyable!
@ant4buffy4 жыл бұрын
andrew bellringer I don’t know if you can tell from the video BUT... I wasn’t very good at it! Hehe. But also it wasn’t for me.
@andrewbellringer61474 жыл бұрын
Ant Smith i completed 5 levels in under 3 years i also got highly commended award runner up
@kyletheringer2 жыл бұрын
@@ant4buffy don't think like that id say you did very well mate
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
@@ant4buffyfor just 4 weeks of training, you did brilliantly! you seemed to pick things up pretty alright, and the odd mistake here and there is merely down to being new to ringing. sad to hear you're not ringing anymore, but i understand if you felt it wasn't right for you. props to you nonetheless :)
@bellringer229 ай бұрын
@@ant4buffy you got the technique quite quick i have been ringing for a year now and i rung every single bell at my old tower apart from the tenor at my new tower i ring the tenor of 8 bells it took me ages to get my following as good as it is now
@coastermad1311 жыл бұрын
I am 21 now and I have been ringing since I was 6, and there is always something to learn. Heaviest bell I've rung was in Edinburgh at 41cwt (2 tonnes) and I can say that different bells can behave totally differently. Some are really easy to control, others are soooo challenging to even make the rope come down in front of you, some sound awesome and others sound like pots and go clink
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
Definitely find the difference in sound to be rlly fun. The bells at my local church are an absolute blessing both to ring and to listen to, while some others *ahem* (Chelmsford cathedral) *ahem* do sound like a buncha buckets 😂 But that's the fun of ringing! You get a fresh, fun experience wherever you go :)
@coastermad13 Жыл бұрын
@@kgroveringer03 Now I'm 31 and I've given up ringing and religion in general. Turns out there are a lot of bad people in the church and the local Diocese are judgemental and awkward and ironically not very Christian like. I ask too many questions nowadays and need evidence.
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
I must have watched this 50 odd times now, one of the best short documentaries on ringing on KZbin! I especially appreciated how candid Ant was about any apprehensions or frustrations he felt; ringing is definitely one of those activities that requires a lot of practice to get to a point of stable-enough bell control, and even after decades of ringing the best ringers will still muck uo here and there 😂 I've been learning to ring for about 8 months now, and am about to move on to call changes for the first time, so I'm super excited (also nervous lol) to get started on that!
@paulbutler637310 жыл бұрын
Very well presented, I am now 58 and all my ancestors were bell ringers, my father was tower captain for 50 years at Shareshill church, this lady really knows her ringing and a very good tutor, really enjoyed this Programme.
@ringerowen40395 жыл бұрын
Deborah came to my church in redditch yesterday in ipsley I recognised her the secon she came in She helped me with ringing and thanks to her my ringing is much better
@cornwall_trainspotter43464 жыл бұрын
Ringer Owen that’s good to hear good ringers and bad ringers are the same I am a ringer and I have been ringing for about 4 months and I’m good so practise makes perfect lol
@andrewbellringer61474 жыл бұрын
I burn Toast ive been at it for 3 years
@AlexanderWright1 Жыл бұрын
Handling the bell is the easy bit! Ringing in time with others, gaining "rope sight", and then learning methods are the tricky bits.
@Ivanhoe210 жыл бұрын
All credit to this lady. The instruction is good. Having learned later in life,,,I am in a position to appreciate the skill she has in teaching. One has to realise that there are still many ringers about who learned as youngsters. They are very fortunate. Best wishes.
@WeKnitYouCanToo8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. My husband and I have just started bell ringing and this has been the most informative video I've found so far. I'll be coming back to view again!
@benkeating48362 жыл бұрын
Remember watching this religiously when learning to ring, this was 4 years ago, now ringing on 10 and 12 some practice nights, been a short but interesting journey.
@smileclarenet9 жыл бұрын
I've been ringing for just over two and a half years. I was hooked after the first night. I remember learning all these things. I rang at Lincoln Cathedral after six weeks, and couldn't keep my bell in the right place! It took me ages to get the control, and even now I have moments when I lose it, but with five quarters and a peal to my name, I'm not doing too badly.
@lornacaddy85319 жыл бұрын
I do, actually. Anywhere between Nottingham, Lincoln and Grantham.
@TheTraveller200812 жыл бұрын
Your first peal so soon after starting, sounds like you've got the bug seriously! Another seven years later, what's your total up to?
@rebeccashelton951210 жыл бұрын
I am teaching The NINE TAILORS by Dorothy Sayers and this video is so well done, it will help today's young students understand an old and beautiful art.
@Bellringercameron7 ай бұрын
This brings back memories of when I first learnt to ring
@brumdingers79735 жыл бұрын
I ring in Birmingham and I have been doing it for years. It is the most amazing thing.
@duke32966 жыл бұрын
This is great... I have the same almost feelings when starting joint the group... Mix emotion of gladness to nervous...
@Ringer_Fran7 жыл бұрын
I ring at a tower near Leeds in Yorkshire in a town called Chapel Allerton. These are a nice and easy 6.
@JMRSsize6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video demonstration.
@Jeep19212 жыл бұрын
Realy good to watch. Well done Ant - I expected to see ropes flying everywhere but but you have good control!
@watchguy792 жыл бұрын
This is really cool! Great job mate !
@timothy.p61289 жыл бұрын
the tower i ring at there are two gentlemen who are close to celebrating 70 years ringing, 70 years. i have only just done 10 years (on and off) started when i was 8
@coastermad139 жыл бұрын
I started ringing backstrokes at 6 at Long Eaton so beat that :P
@timothy.p61289 жыл бұрын
Simon Westman well i cant beat that. how did you stay on the ground
@chloebleach73765 жыл бұрын
Started when I was 10 too now 18 and about to ring for the first time in 3 years
@irenec48765 жыл бұрын
Simon Westman I first rang both strokes together on my third lesson when I was only 9. With help obviously form the teacher
@KaitharVideo9 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda curious if Ant is still ringing actually. Did pretty well to get that far that quickly. Just in case he, or anyone else, is curious from the way the bell was behaving at the end, I'd say he lost control due to not pulling fully. The combination of the bell ringing short of balance and the rope flick the lack of follow through adds would cause that kind of miss. Longer lesson: Basically when a rope starts to snake around it can come down worse each hand stroke until you correct what you're doing wrong, partly because catching the snaking rope and pulling it amplifies any bad habits or techniques. The reason you're supposed to pull down all the way at back, rather than stopping short, is that you're kind of "throwing" the rope at the floor which makes the rest of the hand stroke straight, it's about keeping the rope tight and straight. If you stop short the momentum can make the rope snake to the side or whip around you, if you pull at an angle the rope will flick in that direction. One way I've seen it taught is to have change in your front trouser pocket, if you're doing the back stroke pull right you'll knock the change enough to make a noise. One of the mistakes of learners is to pull in a curve away from their body which makes the rope flick out at hand stroke ... more than a couple of inches forward and you're liable to miss the salle, and you can easily throw the rope a foot or two in front of you with a curved pull. To the side is even worse, you're liable to end up with your rope in front of the ringer next to you. The difficulty keeping it in place on the second set of rounds was a combination of it not getting to balance (so you can't hold up for the larger bell count, as he explained earlier in the video) and of getting frustrated with the bell. That's another common mistake with learners and harder to teach a fix for. When the bell keeps going too early they'll get frustrated and that makes things worse. Some times they'll pull harder at the other stroke, over compensating and having to fight the bell more. Other times they'll be tensing up and over check a stroke that would have gone to balance. The worst times they'll over compensate and/or under check and end up bumping the stay (against the stop... normally you ring in a way that kisses the slider lightly, if you let the bell go past balance, particularly at hand stroke, the stay pushes the slider all the way to the stop and bounces back at you) instead. The key to good ringing is to be reasonably relaxed, if you're too tense, frustrated or annoyed with the bell you just end up pulling too hard or at the wrong time and it all goes wrong. Imagine trying to do a task that needs steady hand eye co-ordination, like one of those buzzer wires or a jenga tower. It's a totally different skill set, but it requires a similar kind of relaxed concentration in your movements and also goes horribly wrong when you get frustrated. Been a few years since I had to stop ringing (and thus involvement in the teaching side as well) but I think I remembered all that right heh. If I've made any glaring errors, feel free to point them out to me, I enjoy talking about the hobby :p
@mikec44727 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you!
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
sadly ant's no longer ringing, but he did very well indeed
@alistairsv12 жыл бұрын
Very well done Ant
@millefolia6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I enjoyed the video! I'm rereading Dorothy Sayers' The Nine Tailors and this video made the bell ringing parts of the book make sense to me.
@andrewbellringer61474 жыл бұрын
millefolia i have that book
@stefferknee1 Жыл бұрын
Having just started the beginning of this is exactly how I feel!!
@sarahcole10295 жыл бұрын
Just learning myself and it is as you say a lot harder than it looks. Hope your going to continue ringing bells.
@jondoes82229 жыл бұрын
That really was a good video and you sir, have a wonderful personality.
@tillydog12 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Ant did really well!
@simonbellringer12 жыл бұрын
That was really well done, ringing isnt easy and especially in that short space of time. Hope you keep it up too Ant :)
@stephaniebrown26246 жыл бұрын
Really impressive progress ringing myself for many years , I am thinking you are talented and so positive
@SharlenesJourney6 жыл бұрын
Soo cool :D im by a church right now and herd the bells and I always wondered how it worked lol
@gouryella1018 жыл бұрын
Great video. Well done
@delissaneedham50084 жыл бұрын
Excellent well made film.
@adamm26932 жыл бұрын
very good indeed!! its also nice that the tower found a way to keep its Doncaster canons without cutting them off !
@Nautical_Parsnip7 жыл бұрын
I want to ring but I live in the United States with no local bell ringers
@ringeradam45755 жыл бұрын
There are change-ringing bells in the United States as well, however they're definitely a lot more spaced out than in England! The main towers are in: Salem, MA Boston, MA New York City Washington DC Philadelphia Alexandria, VA Charleston, SC and a list of all change-ringing towers in the United States can be found on this page: www.nagcr.org/afftower.html
@kayleighogley61934 жыл бұрын
I live in this country
@kerryharwood12 жыл бұрын
That was brilliant! I'm so impressed with how the film was made and it would be a great thing to show beginners. It really sums up all my frustrations when I first started. I tried to make my own video on bellringing (see my profile), but it doesn't look half as professional as yours. Great stuff, well done.
@samuelwardell12337 жыл бұрын
It has taken me less than a month to learn bell ringing and now I ring the 4 at Glastonbury Somerset
@Drobium7710 жыл бұрын
I'm just learning now, i've had four 1/2 hour lesson over 5 weeks and am just getting the basics of bell control, although the bells aren't mute. I think i'll need a round another 3-4 lessons before going to the next stage of ringing in rounds, i'm seriously enjoying it though, it's not supposed to be this much fun! :-D
@britainluver43111 жыл бұрын
I have always wanted to give a go at change bell ringing. Although there aren't as many towers in America as I have hoped for, but anywhere I can find is good.
@allecovv11134 жыл бұрын
Comgratulations to the young boy! It hasn't been easy at all...
@TheDroghedaBellRinger5 ай бұрын
Great vlog
@andrejpecenko91517 жыл бұрын
Nice work practice. LJ, Slovenia, Europe
@70stvtool5 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wanted to learn.
@adrianjohnson7920 Жыл бұрын
Harder than it looks? -- and I looks HARD. . .
@plummerbe11 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, and very professionally edited. Lets hope it persuades some younger people to take up this hobby.
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
I'm 19, been learning since May 2022! It's such a fun experience, and getting better every time is a super fulfilling feeling. That plus the social aspect as well is a huge motivator for getting me coming along to these sessions.
@campanerosdelaltoojaezcara67616 жыл бұрын
great !!!
@Dan-bc9nx5 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, i’m a bellringer newbie... i just did some practice rings at Worcester Cathedral
@pretorium10 жыл бұрын
Very well done really and Deborah Thorley is a good teacher.... some pick it up like a magnet with co-ordination / listening to instruction and the bells themselves. Others don't and it takes a lot of patience. Some people drop out early on before they really get the hang of it and start to enjoy it, but as a group exercise its a great thing, together with the sound that is made. I've taught 8 bands from scratch and it gives great pleasure when ringers you have taught progress.
@fredmills3685 жыл бұрын
It took me about 2 months
@britainluver43111 жыл бұрын
Hey you're doing just fine in the tower. I wish you good luck with ringing at other towers.
@jessbagnall18147 жыл бұрын
it look me like a year to learn lol, (still learning now obviously) i started when i was 11, and yh it's definitely harder then it looks 😂😂 gd video
@TheConsettonian19879 жыл бұрын
I was going to ring at Silsden on a ringing trip and we got locked out and never got the chance to ring them, very disappointing it was!
@renehernandez49086 жыл бұрын
I usted yo ring the bells in the presbiterian church and one of them was super heavy
@poly_hexamethyl5 жыл бұрын
0:13 The reason you're having such a hard time is that you forgot to spit on your hands before grasping the sally! :-)
@fredmills368 Жыл бұрын
🤮
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
Ewwwwwwwww, noooooooo why would you do thattttt 😭😭😭😭 just use chalk if you want better gripppppp
@samuelwardell12337 жыл бұрын
I am learning to ring at Glastonbury St. John's
@scrapbookshopplanner6084 Жыл бұрын
I have been bell ringing for two months but only very brief rope time and still don’t understand the technique of the backstroke and I keep losing the momentum of the bell. Very disheartening
@BellCamPrank11 жыл бұрын
its hard and takes some getting used to but its worth it
@nord148612 жыл бұрын
You should perhaps mention that a full peal takes about 3 hours to ring and if you ring for that length of time you are likely to get blisters :-)
@jodyhaberfield53084 жыл бұрын
i live in aus now but i learned to ring when i was 8 in the uk
@ambereames873311 жыл бұрын
I do bell ringing with tabitha. I am 12 years old and ring twice a week at madley and kingstone.
@simonbellringer12 жыл бұрын
@brookwall Lol, I think I clicked reply rather than post by mistake!! Ooopss!!
@rfm2317 ай бұрын
How is it that you’re pulling the rope and the bell is not ringing? How do you silence the bells?
@bagelbreather11 жыл бұрын
DUDE, I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR ACTUAL RINGING. I MEAN THE BIG EVENT I JUST WATCHED YOU TRAIN FOR. THANKS FOR SHARING, IT WAS GOOD, BUT THE ENDING OF THIS VIDEO IS VERY ANTICLIMACTIC!!!!!!!
@joshuastonefish7 жыл бұрын
im learning
@bekihodgson42 жыл бұрын
I went for my first lesson tonight and I've stupidly given myself a rope burn, I forgot to let go.
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
Hope you're getting on OK! Lmk hos things are going!
@erictrumpler96523 жыл бұрын
Have you continued with ringing?
@thetrollingpanda211 жыл бұрын
i wish i could do that
@callumpholloway11 жыл бұрын
It isn't harder than it looks its just a great hobbie
@joshuastonefish7 жыл бұрын
i am learning to ring
@janewatson625710 жыл бұрын
There are 6 bells at Silsden
@TheArchitectOfDreams7 жыл бұрын
1300 Hours?! *falls over*
@campanaro_992 жыл бұрын
Imagine he broke the stay
@markpimentel12115 жыл бұрын
I rang the bell of lebret 2 times
@bfdiofficialpen38397 жыл бұрын
Yeah all that bell weight
@broomie0017 жыл бұрын
Did you do it
@Nautical_Parsnip7 жыл бұрын
It must be easy if a ten year old can do it
@lewisbenfield94184 жыл бұрын
do you still ring ?
@TheDiamonCat7 жыл бұрын
I ring
@volgalas607010 жыл бұрын
Всего-то один колокол в одни руки...
@kernow93247 жыл бұрын
Ant, I really enjoyed your video, but you're way too hard on yourself.
@janewatson625710 жыл бұрын
Why don't you try to ring at ilkley all saints church with 8 bells
@tabithaemmett25611 жыл бұрын
i do bellring and im 13 year old my longes time is 2hours 30minit becaues other people from other churches came put ae normal does it 1hrs and 30 minit
@tillydog12 жыл бұрын
How many bells at Bradford?
@fredmills3686 жыл бұрын
12
@codedlAnguage Жыл бұрын
🤓. 💝. 🎸. 🤓
@WilsonTomines4 жыл бұрын
3:54 I think the bell won't ring.
@andrewbellringer61474 жыл бұрын
tea tev its because the clapper is tied back
@lewisbenfield94184 жыл бұрын
Do you still ring?
@fredmills3684 жыл бұрын
Be nice if he was!
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
@@fredmills368Sadly not 😢
@achille-claudedebussy71227 жыл бұрын
are you breirtish
@fredmills3686 жыл бұрын
Daisyre Vidal he is
@bsturdy775 жыл бұрын
Great video, blokes a massive nerd who presents it though. Nevertheless, it's alright
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
Nahhh, what's wrong with being a nerd? lol
@vickybak19247 жыл бұрын
Look good on my own wall and then we will all the best to the best and the best in our life and
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Vicky, truly a master of words
@connorelder57982 жыл бұрын
So negative tho
@bfdiofficialpen38397 жыл бұрын
I'll just hang on it it will be easy if I go to new york
@kinghugothe1st7467 жыл бұрын
I know how to bell ring and I'm 10
@fredmills3686 жыл бұрын
Kinghugo The1st well done u
@louisebinnie94745 жыл бұрын
Same
@deeremeyer17537 жыл бұрын
Hard to imagine those hand pads would be that clean with so many hundreds of hands pulling on them thousands of times. Of course 99% of that great tradition of bell-ringing isn't done by hand and they're definitely not "regular" bells heard in the background of these videos or pealing in the distance during British travel propaganda/documentaries. Standard bells just don't ring like that folks. And damn sure not when the clapper is laying against the shell as they're flipped damn near vertically during "change ringing". Bells only have a very narrow range of travel on their "upstroke" between being struck or rather the bell striking the hammer and then catching it and carrying it, which kills the sound immediately. TUBULAR bells with gong strikers are what's being rung in those churches. I don't care what these videos show while implying its just a regular bell being "artistically" operated that's making those clean, clear and long notes. Like I said, they don't ring when the clapper is laying on the shell.
@RohrDC6 жыл бұрын
what
@RobDavisTelford6 жыл бұрын
What tosh, you don't know what you are talking about.
@fredmills3686 жыл бұрын
Rob Davis exactly there's no such thing as upstroke
@Happyheart1465 жыл бұрын
The Salle (the padded bit on the rope that you pull on for the hand stroke) is usually made from wool and wool is self cleaning. The other stroke is called backstroke and there are no hammers involved, only clappers. I've been ringing for 2 months now.
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
Firstly, those "hand pads" are called salles, and they're washed with the rope every so often. The entirety of bellringing is done by hand, each bell being entirely operated by humans. The ringing sounds in TV, film and videos is done entirely on regular bells that you'll find in your local church or cathedral. There's 2 types of stroke, the handstroke and backstroke; there's no such thing as an "upstroke", as you call it. When any church or hand bell is rung, the clapper rests against the inside of the bell, which creates the ringing sound you hear. Because the bell is moving, the clapper doesn't rest on the inside for long, so it doesn't sound muted as a result. There is absolutely no way that a tubular bell could possibly be used in change ringing, because they aren't loud enough, nor does the sound contain the partials that church bells do, meaning they cannot produce the same sound whatsoever. Secondly, full-circle bellringing, as seen in this video, has been around since the early 1600s, while tubular bells were invented and used for the first time in 1886. Furthermore, tubular bells and church bells are both rung by hand, which completely disproves what you said about them "not being rung by hand". And, having been up into a church belfry many times over the last few months, having been right up close to the bells, putting on/removing ties and even seeing and hearing the bell being rung 5 foot from me, I can confirm there are no tubular bells up there. Just your typical church bells mounted on wheels. It's clear from what you've said that you know absolutely nothing about bellringing, or bells, for that matter. You're trying so, so hard to create a conspiracy theory about bellringing and spread rampant misinformation about the tradition. Please, do more in future to actually learn about the subject than just blindly conjecturing about it.
@jamesparkin11107 жыл бұрын
I ring at St. George's jesmond. It's a fantastic set of bells