Bungie's Dwindling Goodwill...

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[@LeeFox1337]

In a game where looting for cool things is 99% of the loop. Having 99% of the things that look cool behind paying them MORE. Makes the question of why bother come up a lot more.

[@Blisterdude123]

I love that the vague nature of this comment means you could be talking about dozens of videogames. Destiny, Diablo IV, you name it.

[@zacharynyberg7007]

@@Blisterdude123 I take what hes saying in the literal term. I quit destiny LOOOOONG TIME ago because i saw this *loop* coming. I quit D4 a month after launch cause not only is a a horrible fucking garbage ARPG, I again I see the *Loop* of a fuck ton of microtransactions coming. Their already planning on selling Storage space in D4 lol. They created a storage issue just to sell a solution...Same bs Destiny does too. His vague comment just lists how complete shit gaming is.

[@Aoenias]

Yeah for a game that makes its money from FOMO and Drip, it sure is BAD at it...

[@JohnDoeWasntTaken]

@@user-6d4un3w7h Back in CoD golden days if somebody had cool shit on their nametag or camo then you knew they earned it. Now cosmetics and shit like that mean nothing when most of it is microtransactions.

[@gulagamelee4804]

@@JohnDoeWasntTaken tbf. you cant call modern cosmetics in games "micro"transactions anymore. They sometime cost the same as a new game. And from my experience most of them are around 10-20€. even that aint micro anymore.

[@ADreamingTraveler]

It's at the point for me personally that I'll never go back to the game no matter what Bungie does. It's too late. I love the game but I just can't support any of this anymore. It's done.

[@EastyyBlogspot]

Removing the content people had paid for was broke it for me I stopped playing and seasons with limited time content is one of my big modern day gaming irks

[@DJSWTBCK]

I completely agree

[@olchum7605]

Same with blizzard

[@reaper_exd7498]

I'd go back but bungie have F'd themselves. There is no way to win now. You stop the predatory pricing and you'll piss off those that have spent hundreds up to this point. Dont change and you'll continue to hemorage players from your rolls. Bungie ruined themselves into a no win corner like i said

[@h13n12]

have you heard about the buff they gave to stasis? to improve the usage rate of stasis, instead of giving it meaningful buff they nerf all the other element. and then they nerf survivability, the season they said was supposed to be focused on stasis instead has a ton of powerful artifact perk for solar.

[@Frosty4427]

On Friday, Digital Extremes reviewed a proposal they put forward to Warframe's community about a paid option for new players to skip grind in order to access later narrative content without having to put in 1000 hours. After listening to feedback, they decided to just make that content more accessible more quickly. DE aren't perfect and don't always make the best decisions, but Bungie could really learn a lot from them.

[@hoxyheart5479]

Unfortunately, warframe is too small to pay attention to even tho I agree with you.

[@e.featherfire1999]

@@hoxyheart5479 And thats what keeps it small. To small to pay attention to, and with no attention it keeps small.

[@viru52000]

@@hoxyheart5479 "too small" when they have double the players Destiny 2 has LOL

[@gadsanchez4929]

Digital Extremes is a very good studio, that's why, anyone remember when they removed the self-revival (p2w) because it was unfair?, imagine what Bungie could have done

[@Mediados]

@@hoxyheart5479You do know that they have their own physical convention?

[@phsycotater3608]

In Destiny 2, I got a game breaking bug back in season of the splicer, that made it impossible to finish the seasonal content, and when I brought it up in the forums I was told that it was fixed, so I tried again and it wasn't. After that I was unable to finish the season, and then when I tried again two seasons later, it was still broken, and when I posted about it again, I was told I was lying and that bug had been fixed. So I was unable to use content I paid them for, and when I reported it I was told I was wrong. And it was never fixed, and eventually those seasons were all vaulted.

[@reaper_exd7498]

That's why i call the destiny community desticles. Their forums and comment sections are always run but bungo paid image rep companies and they're ordered to shut down ALL possible negative comments. And considering that they're a commie company, even legitimate criticisms and compaints, in the eyes of a commie, undermine their system and must be shut down. This is why i quit when witch queen ended. Bungo and it's desticles deserve each other.

[@yummy_the_braix]

sounds about right

[@funtourhawk]

gotta love Bungle...I played for a hour when this season dropped just to look at what's going on and I encountered 5 bugs just in the first activity, went back to playing 2077 after that lol

[@alejbr4]

funny cause they are dozens of "fixed" bugs going back to d2 release, and its funny when you see dev games and see the very bugs you get told do not exist or were fixed

[@chipsalom]

That sucks, but it isn't game breaking. Assign correct jargon if you're going to use it. Game breaking is much more than "kept me from completing seasonal content _", or quests or etc. if you were still able to fire up and play the game but it was simply a seasonal content affected explain how that's game-breaking? In order of debugging priority yes game-breaking is high on the list but bastardizing the term and assigning it inappropriately doesn't help the industry. I'm not remotely defending Bungie here either. They've been shit for several years. I haven't touched destiny other than playing it for about 15 minutes 6 months ago and then realizing it was s*** and putting it back down, LOL. I say bastardizing tech jargon and and terms doesn't help the industry because all it does is continue to soread incorrect understanding of how development works and who is responsible for what. I assume you must be talking about a bug that at some point was officially listed as a "known issue or bug", otherwise how on earth is Bungie supposed to know whether it's your own hardware or a thousand other potential things causing the problem? That's why anecdotes serve to fo nothing but offer confirmation bias to ppl looking to doglike online. looks like that is working as intended for ya at least, reading the replies above, lol. I hope you find another game you enjoy that isn't bugged.

[@EastyyBlogspot]

I am starting to think maybe Activision, blizzard may not have been the issue with bungie after all lol

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

they were the one to RUIN their logistics and mentality. they fired many old bungie employees just like with blizzard. activision is a virus that killed gaming for couple studios

[@reaper_exd7498]

We told you desticles this. We told you during D1 and we were shredded for citing things like lawsuits inside bungo and interviews with the writer who they tried to screw out of a million dollar bonus that he earned. Destiny was screwed from the start. And those of us who pointed that out at the time were attacked relentlessly. Personally i think you players got what you deserved for supporting such an evil company

[@xiphosmaniac]

activision blizzard was the start of the downfall for bungie. Before the divorce they sabotaged the company by forcing the OG's to resign or straight up fired them. THe game has stagnated since then because no one at bungie has the vision that people like joseph staten had.

[@Blisterdude123]

Something Blizzard's dented stans will learn to accept about Blizzard, too, eventually.

[@Summit900]

@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it People STILL love to blame Activision for Bungie's fuck ups. Get over it, is has always been Bungie. Bungie proved to be the problem because as soon as they were no longer under contract with Activision, the shady business practices and predatory micro-transactions kicked into overdrive. And the fact that Bungie was the worse one when they were in a contract with Activision says something.

[@inanimatesum4945]

I’m kind of glad the economy is also taking a bit of a hit. Its making people more conscious of their spending and people have essentially figured out Bungie has been trying to shake people down while their efforts and quality decline.

[@Ouzzel]

Yes, world economy is taking hits, but at least people won't be able spend money on D2 LMAO

[@SolaireOAstora]

I'm not glad my groceries have tripled in price not glad at all

[@117johnpar]

$20+ for an armor set?? We've been arguing over whether $10 is an acceptable price for 6 cars in a car pack for Forza. And I know it takes a hell of a lot more effort to make those 6 cars than any armor set they're selling over in Destiny.

[@ShamanThroatWarblers]

Especially since destiny is a 1st person game, meaning the vast majority of the time you don't even look at the armour skins you buy

[@RageQuitSon]

Haha don't look at COD. Those kids are rinsing their parents credit cards. And honestly many boomers buying up the boomer bait skins. From anime to 90s games skins.

[@funtourhawk]

Been like that for awhile...conveniently they upped it from $15 to $20 (that's just for one set of armor for one character) and of course no destiny players said anything. Pathetic it took them this long to realize Bungle is dogshit...

[@Otakahunt]

@@rampagegamingg8434 Your argument would be wrong then. Scanning a car into a game doesnt include: engine horsepower, driving behaviors, aerodynamic properties, functional electronics (stuff in the cockpit), engine sounds nor any other gameplay related mechanic. A cosmetic armor set has literally none of those things... a new armor just looks cool, nothing else... its a cosmetic set we're talking about too so there are no gameplay stats related to it either. Once the artist is done with it then its done and can be added into the game. An armor could be scanned into a game just as easily if it existed irl... but yet again none of its statistic properties would be included but there wouldnt be much to add anyway if you wanted since at the most they would have armor, endurance and weight. While a car in a racing game has more than double ingame mechanics you need to add and properly model to fit the car in question... its not a need for speed-game after all either, forza is atleast trying to make cars behave and feel the way they would irl so they absolutely have systems to calculate aerodynamics, collisions, damage model etc.

[@powerbeard5653]

@@RageQuitSon imagine buying skins in cod after they just "updated the game" and threw all your old warzone skins in the trash so you can buy them all again. people are truly hopeless

[@Manic.miner2077]

I watched a warframe dev stream the other day, man, that company runs rings around bungie when it comes to treating its customers with respect.

[@Qriox]

Wait, Bungie had any goodwill?

[@StingBear]

An absolute insane amount. How do you think they've lasted this long?

[@Brown614]

Absolutely. Their management is scummy bitches but the devs who actually make the game with the constrictions set by the monetization team is nuts. Big sad cause it's such a good game.

[@Qriox]

@@StingBear​ @Brown614 I mean... When they blocked earlier raids with the Osiris DLC, they already lost some goodwill from me. And it's a manoeuvre they pulled even in their Destiny 1 days. Then there's the content vault, and the whole slew of microtransaction shit and predatory things going on, as well as how you lose story of the base game if you didn't play the seasons! so yay. And then there's the P2W stuff they recently added. :)

[@adammatis5527]

...back when I was a young boy.....

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

nice mentality. we live in times when shitty studios like blizzard keep existing after 5 straight years of degeneracy. destiny 1 is the most overrated game on ps4 and mid game from bungie. d2 is d1 but for whales.@@StingBear

[@SpottedHares]

Remember Bungie is projecting to make only 55% of what they thought they would make for the year. But we have no idea yet what that projection was, and if we’re being honest it would not be surprising if management was being unrealistically stupidly bullish with their predictions. Edit: when bungie releases their earnings we will get the answer as to if their was really fiscal trouble at the studio or if upper management got greedy and are now blaming the devs and players for their greed.

[@xiphosmaniac]

i really feel like they expected $1 billion from a fucking expansion. I truly believe that with all the hype from witch queen they expected lightfall to hit $1 billion. They are full of hubris. Its a fucking expansion pack. Only a few games can make a quick billion, and destiny EXPANSION is not it. Maybe a destiny 3 wouldve been able to shift enough units to hit $1 billion, but not a fucking expansion that requires you to buy the previous shit or youre left in a quagmire lore wise (nevermind actually getting into the game and finding how garbage it was).

[@reaper_exd7498]

They are, this was discussed in an interview with the writer who left anf sued bungie during D1. It a tactic done to rationalize why they should charge so much. "Well we're obligated to price it at this level cuz the projections need to be met." It's a marketing tactic in gaming only done by yhe most predatory firms. COD and WoW do the same tactics. It's definitely spear headed by Activision but these companies happily comply now for their cut of gold.

[@ericbright1742]

From what I have heard, this is actually based on the expected pre-order numbers, based on how "well" Lightfall did. Don't get me wrong. Lightfall was _sold_ really well, and it did bring a bunch of new players to the game, but because it ended up overhyped, the preorders for The Final Shape are lower than Lightfall. Probably down by about 45%. Which is worse for Bungie? They're down 45% because the estimate was unreasonable, or they're down 45% _despite_ the estimate being reasonable?

[@xiphosmaniac]

@@ericbright1742 gas lighting the community by having unrealistic expectations then firing your workers over it is definitely the worse, and more likely scenario.

[@ericbright1742]

@@xiphosmaniac I was referring to the fact that they have so damaged their brand that a significant number of customers have chosen to vote with their wallet. Throwing out random numbers here: Suppose Lightfall had 100k preorders. An Unreasonable estimate for Final Shape would be 200k preorders. Being below expectations means they have only 110k preorders. Still higher than Lightfall. A reasonable expectation would be another 100k preorders. Being below expectations here would mean 55k preorders. _That is much more devastating._ And empowering for the players.

[@taddybear4244]

I didn't know of Larian before BG3 released, but they are very quickly becoming one of the darlings of the industry. Absolutely love the move they're taking against scalpers.

[@domreto5055]

divinity original sin 2 is arguably better than bg3 and they released it a while ago i would check it out if you like bg3

[@isturbo1984]

they do their fair share of bad. they arent the "darling" you think they are. i will admit, they are a cut above. but when everyone is bad, the mediocre look better than they are. i dont know if you noticed, but we have gotten some of the worst games of all time this year.

[@taddybear4244]

@@isturbo1984 we've also had some amazing games. There's always a mix. I'm interested to hear what bad there is in Larian.

[@Mediados]

I knew of Divinity but never got around to playing it. Baldur's Gate sure was their big break into the public eye.

[@isturbo1984]

@@taddybear4244 i would argue not really. we've had some good games. not "amazing." i dont care what other people say, i havent played a single 10 or even a 9 all year. and only some. I remember when we had 15 great games a year was the norm. it is only recently we've had this downward trend the last few years. that said, Redfall, Kong skull Island, Gollum and the new TWD are some of the worst pieces of full priced garbage we have literally ever seen.

[@DagothDaddy]

I don't play destiny but this is a classic "We have no plans to continue the game after the next update." Move. Just leading up to the final Xpac add as many ways to squeeze every cent out before you plan to put the game in maintenance mode.

[@reaper_exd7498]

This means they're gonna prep for a launch of Destiny 3 or they're gonna scrap the game since they know they're drained the community for as much cash as they could. Bungo used the same language at te end of D1. It's an excuse to wipe all player paid content, start from scratch, and charge more for the same crap

[@DagothDaddy]

​@@reaper_exd7498no more likely they are moving their eggs into the Marathon basket. That way Sony gets a Liver service game from Bungie exclusive to them.

[@thefiresworddragon927]

I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even get to the final expansion

[@Noname-ol8ef]

​@@DagothDaddy This literally doesn't make any lick of sense. Bungie AND sony is planning to make a live service empire. This basically means that they have to produce multiple successful live service IP'S. And laying out destiny (their current most successful IP) is a very foolish decision for them considering the reasons mentioned, and like....why let go of your most successful IP? They're a business, they should know the law of supply.

[@Noname-ol8ef]

​​@@reaper_exd7498 They literally said that they have no plans to go through with d3 as of now. Hell they literally showed us this reality via the episodes. Also, they pretty much have no reason to scrap the game.

[@insomniaddictesp]

Microsoft made out like a bandit. I had heard they wanted to buy Bungie again, I guess they let Sony make that mistake.

[@twohorsesinamancostume7606]

That's the thing about trust. Once you lose it, that's it. I'll never spend another penny on Bungie again. In fact I hope they collapse so that the extremely talented developers can get out from under Bungie's shitty management and make the games I know they want to make.

[@zer0_cool]

You can tell when a game is in a downward spiral they just squeeze what's left of player base for every cent cause that's all they have left (which of course drives ever more people away) continuing the cycle till only the hardcore whales are left. Then the game is literally just "What do the whales want?"

[@thelittlecube1256]

Man.. What ever is left of bungie at this moment feels like Uldren and We the community are getting Alt-F4'd on the ground.

[@OGYouTubeEnjoyer]

The joke is that there are still people who think Activision was to blame for Destiny's failure despite the contract stating that Bungie had full control over the Destiny franchise was leaked a month after Destiny 1 was released.

[@Zivin]

The fact that they make ALL the cool armor behind a paywall is something that I am glad is finally being talked about. They've been doing this for YEARS, nearly none (with some exceptions) of the armor you earn in game looks like absolute garbage.

[@Noname-ol8ef]

Well...thats what people have always complained about when talking eververse. Hell, it honestly seems like eververse is getting like 80-90% of the cool stuff bungie makes.

[@solartrash6146]

One of the best decisions I made as a gamer was removing games that had toxic practices. Glad I dropped bungie years ago already.

[@RebelOfTheNorm242]

As someone that wants to get back into starfield, they need to do a few things imo -Revamp the entire UI system -Work on reducing the amount of black screens -drop resolution and get 60fps on the consoles…the 30fps is just horrid -remake the skill tree to be less cumbersome

[@paulboris1507]

Even if it’s ‘business as usual,’ it’s been reported that devs had been warning Bungie for *months* about the waning support of the community, making this excuse on their behalf meaningless.

[@Dr_Bille]

That's corporate business structure for you. Management is out of touch, and would rather die than listen to employees

[@paulboris1507]

@@Dr_Bille That is true, I’m just pointing out that calling it business as usual does not excuse the actions Bungie has taken.

[@Dr_Bille]

@@paulboris1507 Absolutely not, you’re right. Pretty much all corporate executives are more of a hindrance than a help (I have extensive experience), but I’d agree Bungie’s is especially bad. In the gaming Industry at least

[@paulboris1507]

@@Dr_Bille No extensive experience with execs but I usually have to deal with the middle management that come from corporate, sometimes it feels like they’re equally out of touch…

[@Sherudons]

I wish for the days where a game came out complete with no flashing cash shop option, and the next released dlc was an entire new side story of comparable complexity and length. Now you expect the deluxe edition to have day one cut content, and the cash shop to be the only bug free expansive content.

[@TheStowAway594]

The thing with scalpers is they can lose many, many, times and come out ahead still, plus with everything being online they don't have to do any real work which is why so many people are doing it as a side hustle. In reality scalpers are just middlemen and if companies wanted to stop it, they could do it in a heartbeat but companies benefit from free advertising and articles about the scarcity of their product, it's a win for them if their stuff is getting scalped, the only ones who lose are the customers, like always.

[@WildWolfGod]

I used to play Destiny (was a day 1 Destiny 1 player) but dropped it after years of On and Off play, Lightfall that much of a disappointment. Seeing people eat up the Eververse stuff after all the growing discontent recently is just so fucking frustrating.

[@reaper_exd7498]

The evervesr players were the definition of desticles

[@zacharybecker8228]

i cant believe it took till lightfall for you

[@WildWolfGod]

@zacharybecker8228 Played Vanilla D1, played from Vanilla D1 til Taken King then quit. Picked up D2, played Vanilla til Curse of Osiris came out then quit til Beyond Light came out. Played from Beyond Light til Lightfall. I definitely didn't play the game consistently from Vanilla straight through Lightfall. Hell, I'd skip whole Seasons of D2.

[@faschal6985]

​@@WildWolfGodxxx Dr Dre for

[@minichmasteryoda]

Ah remember the days we thought it was all Activisions fault 😂😂😂

[@Kasaaz]

Live by the live service model, die by the live service model...

[@cozdiver]

WOW, I am 4 for 4! I didn't buy Destiny 2, Starfield, Fallout 76 or Diablo 4. And I love some of the games these companies made before, it's just sad to see these companies go from artists to money grubbing whores!

[@wetham1179]

Bars

[@tripplesouth]

I'd be 3 for 4. But I did get what I wanted with my time in Fallout 76. An open world scavenger hunt with some proxy multiplayer. I was content.

[@elimgarak1127]

The talent left. That's the problem with buying things because studio name. The people behind the good stuff? Gone. Retired really.

[@acardenasjr1340]

Starfield was incredible.

[@Zivin]

"Buy Destiny 2" Its a free game bud

[@fluke7506]

as someone who loves destiny its so painful seeing bungie make stupid decision after super decision. How on earth they went from forsaken to witch queen to lightfall to all of this monetisation crap is crazy. Its like the game for the past 3-4 years has been based on squeezing the player rather than fun.

[@m4nt1c0r3s]

the usual story, passion and success turns to greed, some people like to blame activision, but there were signs even before that, what happened with marty o'donnell and all that.

[@reaper_exd7498]

Why do you think most of us left 4 years ago!? We saw the writing on the wall. At this point you deserve the abuse they give you.

[@kay_keik7842]

Because the talented people who knew how to make fun games got fired or left the company. The people that are running the company are incompetent hacks

[@legitplayin6977]

I also love destiny and honestly, I recently picked up the first one on console and I’ve been having a blast tbh

[@embelished_meister500]

You'd think Bungie would have reached the planets core with by now with how much they've dug they're own grave with their bad decision making.

[@imperialsect4257]

I find it funny that anyone thought Starfield was going to be a good game. Bethesda makes great foundations, not games, it's the modders that really make Bethesda games great.

[@iulioh]

The foundations sucks tho Loading screen after loading screen It was fine in the x360 era but now.. Come on

[@reaper_exd7498]

Well said.

[@Blisterdude123]

Starfield doesn't even have a great foundation. It is fundamentally a mess, as a base game. It's a mess of jarring, disconnected, and underbaked/entirely undeveloped ideas that don't fit together. The idea they spent 10+ years working on this project is absurd to me, because I feel like it needed at least another decade purely at the scrawling-ideas-on-a-whiteboard stage. I don't know what Starfield even is, what it's supposed to be, as a game. And it's pretty clear to me Bethesda had no clue either.

[@KopperNeoman]

​@@Blisterdude123And then the big mod pages actively crack down on attempts to fix it...

[@XBluDiamondX]

Meh. Starfield will be far in my rear view mirror by the time modders potentially make something out of it worth while.

[@coffeemakir1977]

Just been playing returnal again, kinda a crime it didn't receive more recognition. Really great mix of game genre

[@xGoodOldSmurfehx]

Fans: you suck Critics: this sucks Bungie: its so nice to have peace and quiet while squeezing money out of people's bank accounts

[@The_Primary_Axiom]

Absolutely amazing these creators said that. Now they can sell more and screw scalpers over at the same time. If I were them I wouldn’t take more than refund from the same address either.

[@Summit900]

Here is how much Bungie cares about their player base. Community- "You need to fix the teleporting ogres." Bungie- "We hear you, so we decided to lower the decibel of sister's scream because it was too loud."

[@suimeingwong2043]

More reason to love Larian Studios, big middle finger to scalpers.

[@Matjo7588dk]

May Larian light the way for the gaming industry. Make the old companies find reason again. And pray, that Larian themselves are not let astray by the same evil that have ruined many a studio in the past.

[@grantonator3884]

Here's hoping for KOTOR remake in the foreseeable future

[@Jessie_T]

Not the first $10-20 armor set (they've done similar for seasonal events and charity fundraising). I still click on these videos every so often to check on Bungie. It's been almost a decade of Destiny.... I want the game to succeed, but I can't continue to do $100+ per year for the wheel to be reskinned instead of reinvented. My friends feel the same way.

[@fatesrequiem]

Destiny 2 collabs wouldn’t be an issue if Bungie hadn’t removed the ability to earn those armors with Bright Dust through gameplay and at the same time jacked the price. We used to get one seasonal activity armor set, one seasonal transmog set, and then an eververse set each season. The eververse set used to be purchasable with silver (real money analog) or bright dust if you bought the parts on the weeks they were available. It was an incentive to play. So in their greed they removed that, and jacked the price of the seasonal eververse set and…shockingly have seen player counts and revenue drop. Imagine that.

[@Scyths1]

I still don't understand how players can support a company that doesn't give a single shit about you. You can buy an expansion for Destiny 2, and come back in a year's time and that expansion has now been deleted from the game and you can't ever go back to those areas. That is such absolute horseshit and that's just the tip of the iceberg on how greedy and anti-consumer Bungie & Destiny 2's microtransactions and monetization are ... Bungie also are the biggest hypocrits in the industry and that's why they are called the whores of the gaming industry because everytime they celebrate being "free", they very quickly sell themselves off to yet another publisher. I wonder how long the relationship with Sony will last this time and how long until Bungie celebrates the 4th time being free just to be quickly bought once again. And let's not forget to blame all the monetizations on the publisher even though you keep doing worse things even when you don't have a publisher anymore. If Bungie closed doors tomorrow, I wouldn't shed a single tear and I regret ever buying Destiny 2 when it was released.

[@Aoenias]

I understood that it was just the season for layoffs and that it was inevitable that they would happen, but Bungie went about it with the most overt greed and maliciousness I have seen in recent history with them basically wanting to take the employee retention money Sony gave them and take the employee benefits by tactically choosing their timing to minimize what they owed. Even firing their composer? Hey wait a minute, they have done that before, and it was all so they could prevent him from selling his soundtrack as per their former agreement and so they could sell it themselves instead. It was just too much. If they were worried about their revenue from microtransactions and lack of preorders for The Final Shape, I have bad news for them. I'm not spending another dime on them. I WAS going to purchase The Final Shape, I WAS going to purchase some cosmetics to complete my looks for the new armor updates, but now my Destiny 2 career ends here.

[@Pillock25]

It would have been nice to see Larian make that announcement after the scalpers bought up big, unfortunately it would be too late for some customers, but it would've been funny to see nonetheless.

[@changer_of_ways_999]

Scalpers mean there's more money on the table that the developer is leaving on the table due to scarcity and FOMO marketing. More companies need to balance out that supply/demand better so that both the customers aren't screwed and the devs actually get more money than scalpers profiting off of a resale.

[@Eleglas]

The KOTOR remake thing annoys the hell out of me because there was a fan project going on to do the same thing which had some significant progress. But when they announced the official remake they sent a cease and desist to the modders. So now we get neither version because of corporate fuck ups.

[@Dac85]

Bungie: man we have no goodwill right now and people are abandoning the game in record numbers. i know, ill release a season where we nerf all ability recovery. thatll bring people back.

[@BlimberryBoi]

the most recent update of BG3 made all my characters invisible , many item uniteractible and irreversibly ruined my saves , so im pretty much done with that game

[@unloyal4847]

Oof I thought Halo was getting some bad news when finally they were getting into the goodwill on their playerbase, then I forgot Bungie doesn't own halo anymore phew.

[@inventor4279]

This, in the same week that warframe devs walked back their plans for a paid story skip for the new FREE dlc and instead made it easier to play the main story quests

[@arthanor9631]

As I already own the Witcher, I hadn't noticed, but a single character's skin being more than all 3 games is pretty hilarious. Well done Bungie, looking greedier than ever 🙄

[@Gamecapturevideo]

Today's BG music was on point, loved it! 🎶 Otherwise, superb reporting as usual 👍👍

[@calculateddeclination5534]

And they're further nerfing the power fantasy in a game about power fantasy.

[@thefancytiefling]

The developers baldurs gate 3 have to be pound for pound by new favorite studio Just based on the merit that they actually care about their people. And when I say their people I don't mean their own pocketbooks. They care about the gamers purchasing their games and that is why when it comes out to Xbox I'll be getting the largest addition that I can to support them. I haven't gotten anything above the base game for any game for nearly a decade. But with how they have been amazing towards their community and in general. I will happily give them as much as I can afford in this horrible economy

[@coopereudaemon5915]

Worth mentioning that the Destiny 2 armor announcement came either the same day or one day before the notes for next season, announcing extreme nerfs to some of the most popular builds

[@jonathankyle9008]

Honestly, I had zero expectations outside of it being a Bethesda game with Starfield. I personally enjoy the game. I’m not really into space sims so I think that’s why I enjoy the more casual approach to it. It’s not as good as Skyrim but it’s still good and I’ve definitely got my moneys worth out of it.

[@henram36]

I wish more people would take this attitude with the game. It's not THAT bad. Sure, there's some minor annoyances, but for the scale of what you're getting (an absoulute crap-ton of fun sidequests and faction quests) it's a pretty reasonable deal, IMHO of course.

[@jonathankyle9008]

@@henram36 I agree. I understand that some people feel like they have wasted their money on it but a huge portion of people who are complaining about really minor things are the same ones who fell in with all the hype. I personally did not see any reason to think or believe that Bethesda would all of a sudden do a 180 and make a whole new type of rpg. I had a decent idea in terms of technical limitations regardless of an engine “upgrade”. But at the end of the day it’s just a video game made for our enjoyment.

[@ndchunter5516]

Starfield is missing iconic moments/interactions. Skyrim had arrows to the knee and nazeem everywhere, oblivion had it's ridiculous npc interactions, morrowind had it's entirety targeted on a more niche audience. If you ask me what I remember of star field first I'm somewhat drawing a blank...

[@devak45167]

I always thought Bungie left Activision because they wanted more control over their games. Now it just seems like they wanted to 1up Activision. They saw how successfully ABK exploited their fans and were like “hold my beer”

[@Bielbo]

When he says "when they have went"... It's make my skin crawl 😮

[@ragingsloth2846]

At this point Candy Crush pretty much ruined most AAA multiplayer games. Once that mobile game made a fortune, gaming companies started adding Mobile game Monetization systems and Casino game Psychologies into their games. This has continued to the point that full price games have ftp Monetization systems from the get go. Even though you paid full price for the game. None of the developing teams are even the same people that made these popular titles popular in the first place. Its now Corporate Gaming. A Big publishing company buys a popular title and studios then strip them down and sell the popular name for max profit. At this point Games are now testing grounds for AI builders. Paying studios to test their AI systems. Games are Commercials now, not games.

[@Audiotrocious]

They should make the Witcher armor item sets available for Bright Dust (earned in game) instead of Silver (Premium Currency).

[@GumikoVT]

It's interesting how the sentiment around Destiny has seemingly only gotten worse since they split with Activision.

[@lorrygoth]

Kotor remake is probably the only Star Wars/Disney related thing I would ever consider buying now, as long as I could afford and run it.

[@NN-dl1gh]

Bellular it would be really cool if you did a video on what happened with bungie and how they tore pieces of destiny and sold it as expansions and a full game in the form of destiny 2. I think a lot of people would be interested

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

As a Linux user I was at first fraustrated that it was impossible to play Destiny 2 and harder than necessary to play Diabolo 4 But as we've seen over the years, the games with the most stringent "anti-cheats" that block Linux tend to be games that actually have "anti-anti-grind" mechanics. When consumers hear "anti-cheat" they think "anti pvp cheater", but when companies hear "anti cheat" they hear "anti cheat us out of microtransaction profits". PVP cheating even helps games like this because whales will drop money to have better guns to overcome the cheaters. But systems that help players avoid monetisation, those always coincide with an anti-Linux stance. And that's helped me avoid hundreds of pounds of expenditure on games that are toxic by design against their intended audience.

[@OcileCollection]

Who needs good will when you have addicts and apologists?

[@Talan-3]

Witcher armor isn't the worst microtransaction added with the new season. They added a starter pack providing 3 old exotic weapons, a ship, sparrow, and ghost shell combination. As well as a small handful of materials. Sounds all well and good, something that could be really beneficial for the new players it's targetting ...if it didn't cost $15 dollars! As if the barrier to entry for new players wasn't already laughably bad. It just comes across as the only response Bungie has to feedback at this point, is sticking their fingers in their ears and wishing the mean players yelling at them, to go away.

[@burny7216]

For the last couple months, the only playtime I have in Destiny is when my raid group asks me to join. And as soon as I claim my red border at the end, I Alt F4. I dont even go to the Tower after a raid.

[@tohur]

TBH the worse decision Bungie ever made was leaving Halo... they have never been the same since .. Was bad decision for Halo and even worse decision for Bungie

[@jonasharp3]

Their contract was up, so it’s hard to call that a mistake, unless you’re implying that signing the contract in the first place was the mistake, but then we probably wouldn’t have gotten several complete halo games from them at all. The biggest mistake they’ve made is continually betraying the trust of their loyal players.

[@TaranTatsuuchi]

I went with AMD for the first time since building my own computer this last GPU generation.

[@Cute_Maxi]

Maybe Bungie should dial back the microtransactions and dial up the Steam Deck support... just a thought Bungie.

[@vercogaming3997]

As an avid Destiny player since 2014, more and more of the game keeps getting locked behind paywalls. All of the cool shaders for Season of the Wish are locked behind a silver-only shader bundle. I bought the Ghost of Tsushima sets because they were really well done, but I'm not forking over money for The Witcher sales. I'm not pre-ordering TFS. Bungie will not be getting my money any more until I see reviews and impressions from people I trust. I'm over the BS and can't stand Bungie's monetization anymore. We have to speak with our wallets. Unfortunately, too many Bungie shills out there will lap it up.

[@Dark_Jaguar]

I would love to get the collector's edition, but I want the PC version and... well... that one's not actually coming with physical media. Don't get me wrong, I get that Ultra Bluray drive adoption is even lower than standard Bluray drive adoption on PC. A big part of that is PC manufacturers no longer including such optical drives in modern preconstructed PCs, but still.. if I'm buying a physical edition, I kind of expect to get a disc, so even if a lot of people don't have those drives, including it still provides an OPTION, and since it'll come with a code anyway, it's not hurting anyone to have what's expected in the box. It'll fit (barely) on a four layer 4K bluray, so please, that's my hope Larian. It's what's keeping me from purchasing this edition, since as it stands right now it feels more like a Baldur's Gate themed loot crate than buying a copy of a game. I gotta say these collaborative crossovers have become SO common in recent years... I'm actually sick of it. That once in a few years moment of a little crossover reference has been replaced with these things that get full on advertising and a massive spotlight and... they just diminish both setting's identity by association. There was once a time where Fort's Night had it's own distinct look and feel and characters... and now it's just this weird playground where Superman shoots the Staypuft Marshmallow man or something absurd like that. I just kind of wish it would stop.

[@OhNoTheFace]

Starfield needs modding, like every bethesda games, so fans can fix their games

[@peterjohnstone7867]

I stepped away from Destiny 2, it's been about two months now most productive two months of my life. I'm going back to school for project management. Planning on working for my hometown's local government

[@NiceDiggz]

Bladurs Gate 3 is $100 for the physical edition for me. And they can have my money since I've been waiting for YEARS

[@Dieci-9]

The situation with Destiny 2 is just shameful. It comes off to me as if Bungie is just trying to make players pay as much as possible before abandoning ship (either Bungie itself or some execs that will get the higher revenue analytics and then GTFO before the whole thing crashes and burns). It looks malicious and desperate. Back at its launch, I actually did not buy the game on grounds of not agreeing with the changes done to the color palettes (which were unlimited, unlock it and use it with no limits, to instead being consumables that needed yo be accumulated to put them on a whole set). I decided right then and there to not give the game a single dime. Tried it again on the free trial when the last good expansion (something about a witch) was out but by that time so much shit was paywalled, vaulted and so many MTXs were already in the game that I just uninstalled it and never looked back. At that time, players could at least say that what they paid was used to make interesting, high-quality content...now they can't say even that.

[@Zan_Jayna]

The armors look more Assassins Creed inspired than Witcher.

[@TDub-ox7wu]

I'll say that anger for collaboration over an armor set we've gotten for 3 years in a row is kinda over the top. Ive never cared for the paid sets, so i wait for them to come out for bright dust. Anger over devs getting canned is valid, especially after revenue is "down" yet the top brass only lost out on bonuses, not raises. Anger over an armor set is a bit much.

[@Eta_Hoyimi]

There were roadmap-esque documents leaked by bungie early in this expansion (season 1 or 2 I think) that detailed the CDPR promo. This has been planned since or shortly after lightfall launch.

[@Danceofmasks]

Starfield's bugs may be "fewer" than previous titles, but in some ways it's worse. The entire NG+ loop of running through games and picking up powers is a minefield. Every time you talk to Vlad to find a new temple, there's a chance it's broken ... meaning you don't just lose out on that power, you lose out on every other subsequent power in that run (that you don't randomly find). I have a convoluted method of avoiding this bug, but it's so bad that despite being able to personally avoid it, I'm actively recommending other people not do any full powers NG+ runs.

[@vernonhowell4070]

Ppl need to get over the Bungie layoffs. Those layoffs are going to make the game a lot better, they let go of the staff that were becoming distractions in the work place who forgot what their main job was. Bungie is a bit responsible for allowing/encouraging this behaviour for the last few years but they have seen what happens and realized they needed to right the ship like most companies in America at the moment.

[@sahvion1499]

Yeah, I'm simply in a sunk cost fallacy since I bought the annual pass with Lightfall. Gonna check out the last new season on Tuesday and wont be buying Final Shape unless its unanimously glowing reviews after it releases. Deciding anything with a season pass excluding a few like Deep Rock Galactic will never be worth it.

[@alaineninmah7040]

No one wants to touch KOTOR. It is an all time classic and a remake will be HEAVILY scrutinized

[@porakiyadraekojin3390]

It's funny how "business as usual" seems to be doing a lot more harm than good. Aside from that, frack scalpers. Also, the deluxe edition for BG3 only being 10 dollars more than the base game and isn't made as a limited edition deal feels like Larian rewarding their customers for the insane reception they got. It almost feelsnlike a cycle of: Larian got rewarded for an amazing game -> Larian rewarding customers for amazing reception -> customers gonna reward Larian more

[@AlwayzFresh]

I never really understood Destiny, or wanted to. I tried playing it on release day years ago, but after 30 minutes it felt like a massive corporate, for profit, rinse and repeat product without even trying to hide it. First mission of the game was to fight my way to the end of a cave and back out again. Second mission of the game was to fight my way to the end of the exact same cave. Excuse me what? I never bounced of a AAA game as fast as Destiny. I wanted nothing to do with Bungies ecosystem from day 1.

[@sadmiqoxiv]

Destiny revenue being 50% lower than expected goes hand in hand with the fact that more than 50% of the player base just packed up and left due to their inability to actually develop a game. The franchise is 10 years old, and yet we still have the same mistakes and development issues that we had in D1. They learned nothing, threw away a good game and made something worse... Just to create a bigger revenue train. And failed.

[@TaranTatsuuchi]

I got the first destiny with the limited edition ps4 I was given as a Christmas gift years ago.... I tried it for a bit... But after the removal of story content I decided I wasn't going to go back to the franchise. Feels like it was the right decision.

[@ianskinner1619]

making those assets, (the armour), is done in a specialized plug in developed years ago to streamline the process, with minor bespoke parts, the models would take ~ 4 days tops to make another 2 days to texture and thats it. Need proof of this plug in, thee are many behind the scene videos that show them working in the plugin, making cut and past reward armour for one of the dungeons and what looked like seasonal. People don't seem to realize how many in house plug in and basic assets bungie have at their disposal, there is very little that is new in each season. Neomuna has assets from the red war.

[@idaofficial1173]

It's hard to excited for paid content when the game is full of content, LOCATIONS AND WEAPONS SPECIFICALLY that we have paid for and that have been nerfed into the ground, removed, OR made useless via sunsetting. It's almost like we are paying more money for a trial period for the content we are spending our money on.

[@SkywalkerUk]

Never brought any of the collab stuff on Destiny 2. £20 for a skin for each character is insane.

[@zacharybecker8228]

They lost any goodwill from me years ago

[@WilliamHaist]

The camera on starfield for xbox series x on the gamepass is DELAYED. Every time you attempt to move the camera there's like a 0.5 second delay between joystick being moved and camera starting to move. Not only this but the camera is spazmatic in that it jitters, it's not a smooth camera by any means. This alone stopped me from playing it.

[@EchoDoctrine]

As a long time Destiny player (since destiny 1 alpha) and a Bungie fan (since Marathon on my grandparents mac) i can sadly but unequivocally say “F Destiny and now F Bungie” !!! Firing those great employees the way they did was low, and constantly trying to suck all the money out of its player base is despicable. F Bungie.

[@wolfsokaya]

Always nice to see scalpers losing money. Still, i dont think they lost that much since money flows in interesting ways ...

[@Seoul_Soldier]

I'm so glad that the only new game that I bought this year was Baldur's Gate 3.

[@Minnesota_Fatts]

The KOTOR remake kerfuffle is a failure to communicate: the dev team at Aspyr _wanted_ to modernize KOTOR’s gameplay mechanics so it was on par with games like Respawn’s Jedi: Fallen Order/Survivor, The Force Unleashed, and the Jedi Knight/Outcast/Academy games. The executives at Aspyr, at least the ones balancing the finances, wanted to do what Bluepoint Games did with Demon’s Souls; change absolutely nothing with the systems, just modernize the graphics. Read: the devs wanted to make a successor game like Resident Evil 2/4, the money men wanted to strip the old paint and apply a new coat. Eventually Embracer Group stepped in and handed the project to Saber Interactive, who are diligently at work shit polishing Space Marine 2 but otherwise don’t have anything in the pipe at the moment. It’s been mum since then while the directors are figuring out which way is up with this remake project, I imagine.

[@KopperNeoman]

Heh, I'm with the money men on that one. Make the game look and run better but don't bloody touch it otherwise.

[@Minnesota_Fatts]

@@KopperNeomanM8 if I want to play KOTOR, I’m going to fire up KOTOR. You want me to drop a full tank of gas on a remake title, I better be getting something I won’t get with the original besides “This one is shinier.”

[@legitplayin6977]

@@KopperNeomanHell no, while the old games are good, the gameplay is very outdated

[@VenomPureEvil]

Along side with the 20$ witcher cosmetics they also layedout a substantial amount of nerfs

[@ricardoarteagar.8750]

Recently it feels like they are the burning dog meme. Always on fire, just doing 'fine'.

[@Henbot]

KOTR is a massive game. Don’t surprise if they putting on Ice

[@cylar8]

Bungies thinks of themselves as the Looter, in Looter-Shooter.

[@Bassnova]

It is simple, Nvidia is able to make money even though us as the consumers are allowing, I myself siting on a second hand 3080 am personally excited to see driver maturity in the A770 and the 7900XTX to see if it will be worth getting out since these past months drivers have been giving me issues as of late with audio issues, no video after post even though I always tell it to do a clean install.