Ben Elton has his say on the 'resurgence' of Liz Truss | LBC

[@Hugo97HD]

She is not resurging, platforms such as LBC are giving her a platform for no reason. She's not popular or loved but by giving her a platform youre putting her out there for grifters to start idolising her!

[@sardendibs]

@@deanrogers8381 Actually the exact opposite as those three have built their own mass media platforms and have become popular - whereas Truss is being given a platform despite not being popular.

[@segue2ant395]

​@@deanrogers8381 Novara and Jones have 1.25m subs between them. James' last book sold over 250,000 copies. Cry more, maybe that'll help? lol

[@hg82met]

@@deanrogers8381 There is no right-wing think-tanks with opaque financial arrangements supporting any of those people you named.

[@beardedbloke2521]

​@@deanrogers8381I'm not much of a fan of those three but they prove their points and refute others WITH EVIDENCE!

[@annepoitrineau5650]

When you read the comments to the LBC interviews, they are very negative...The Lettruss is not coming back.

[@jonathanboam5409]

Liz Truss is Britain's creepy trainwreck ex. We got together, we thought it was a disaster, she thought it was brilliant. Now a year later, she won't leave us alone and we're wondering if we should call the police.

[@tmcd5049]

💯

[@evolassunglasses4673]

She's talking about the power of the establishment government machine. Both Left and Right are going to struggle to ever change direction. The system would of destroyed Corbyn.

[@gerardmackay8909]

However some unhinged people can mask it whereas she can’t. She’s a legend in her own mind but no one else’s

[@organicwest]

She is the UK's version of Kari Lake.

[@jonathanboam5409]

@@evolassunglasses4673 Why are we talking about Corbyn? The man's not had the whip since 2020

[@mauromatos3124]

Journalists like Dale also have a responsibility to not allow lying politicians on their shows for over an hour to spout complete nonsense basically unchallenged.

[@nasher906]

Well said 👏 👏

[@TheLion-b3h]

Ian Dale was never a “Journalist”….. he’s far right plant.

[@amcc5887]

Well said 👏👏👏💪💪💪

[@spjm17]

100%!! It's the platform these liars are given.

[@clivet3252]

Liz Truss is constantly attacked rubbished and ridiculed, so I don't know what you're complaining about.

[@Royboy50]

Her arrogance and lack of shame and responsibility is mind numbing,I find it it hard to explain without using expletives

[@gusgoodland]

This is why she's a lauded member of the conservatives, those are peak qualities for a conservative, being arrogant and having zero shame is what they look for in a candidate.

[@missizaskun]

Down with the Nat Cs

[@cubbyhoo]

This is why I find it UTTERLY baffling when people say that "oh they are all the same" or "labour will be just as bad" etc. I get you are disillusioned but come on, these people are utter utter ghouls who will not die. The depressing part of this is how she's obviously funded by dark money and that will get you anywhere. Can you IMAGINE if someone like Corbyn had done half of what she did. We'd never hear the end of it

[@chatham43]

@royboy She didn't have the chance to do anything. It was the markets and the political establishment that brought her down. Get off the silly bandwagon and do some research!

[@cubbyhoo]

@@chatham43 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@conorwhitworth5182]

Truss is mad. Quite quite mad.

[@susanfriend-k5m]

That permanent smirk tell us she is insane.

[@marklangley7758]

It's the eyes, I haven't decided if it's pure evil or pure stupidity. And the jerky, uncoordinated arm non-movements. Something definitely disconnected.

[@jeffsimon9594]

She is certainly sending you around the bend

[@VincentPeters-vs2us]

We used to call these people Harpic because of it's advertising strapline - "Clean round the bend".

[@richyjay330]

Non compos mentis.

[@nomoreheroes93]

Truss' comeback is one of those stories that wouldn't exist if the press didn't report it, but do because it gets clicks and sells papers - it's a bit disingenuous to then interview people about it as if it's a mystery why she's still relevant

[@vercoda9997]

I'm Press. Not at national or international level, but Press nonetheless. I despise Liz - truly - but the fact is, her resurgence is relevant and worth reporting on, if only to raise the alarm about someone nuttier than a KP factory busying herself trying to get in with largely but not only American Far Right extremists, which will have a knock-on impact of giving her political cachet with the kind of ageing white English voters who like the Tories' overt cruelty and corruption, but are a bit perturbed by how Brown some of the party's top brass are. Enter Liz, a resurgent great white hope for such voters, ready to say any empty, trite, airheaded thing that will curry favour with the Tory base, and sweep her back into some kind of prominent position again. That's why she's worth covering and reporting on - out of duty, and to raise the alarm, not just sit placidly by and do Nothing about her incremental inching and worming her way back into power over millions of people.

[@parabob2359]

The majority of online content today prioritises divisiveness over truth, relevance, or human interest.

[@muchopomposo.6394]

Bravo..! 👍🏻

[@AndrewHart-xn9yk]

Liz Truss what a failure Has she no shame

[@onenote6619]

You are asking if a Tory is capable of feeling shame. At this point, that question can only be asked rhetorically.

[@TheHOOD-ip7ke]

No

[@nickwalsh527]

Shamelessness is a core trait of the post-Boris Johnson Tory Party.

[@Neilleeds]

None of them have shame .

[@keithscothern3398]

she is being payed a lot of money by US billionaires to spout nonsense to the indoctrinated.

[@philiptaylor7902]

Thank you Ben

[@lindatyler7056]

Well said Ben 👋👋

[@chatham43]

@linda Always a first. But can he say something actually funny?

[@oneoflokis]

Who can possibly think that Liz Truss has any political relevance?

[@amazoniaamazonia7225]

I don’t think anyone with an once of common sense is interested in what Liz Truss thinks.

[@LoveProWrestling]

unfortunately she is useful to those idiots, and can be wheeled out to say absolutely bonkers stuff so they dont have to cop the flack for it.

[@roxy806]

Same was said about the brexit vote and here we are

[@tobybaker5187]

Sadly, the majority of people have no common sense. Whatsoever.

[@andybrice2711]

Her ideas may be terrible. But I think we ought to question the rather implausible claim that she somehow singlehandedly _"tanked the economy"_ with a proposed budget which never even got implemented. Because I'm pretty sure the Tories are trying to shift the blame for Sunak's failures onto her.

[@skymanifest8339]

​@roxy806 No it wasn't. Stop making stuff up.

[@liamglowsplaces]

Why is LBC giving that disastrous woman a platform

[@kevinwillis6707]

Yes, it's a sad fact that all sides of the media give the likes of her and Farage publicity to fill airtime. I'm not big fan of Ben Elton but he is correct that everyone just seems to have accepted the fact that" alternative facts" are treated seriously , it's bizarre , another weird thing seems to be false equivalency, Angela Rayners alleged possible avoidance of 2 grand in tax from ten years ago is all over the place, yet nobody is howling about millions avoided in tax by among others the guy who started the rumour with his ghostwritten book, and the party pointing fingers at her is chock full of fraud and scandal It truly is mind boggling what politics has become.

[@Neilleeds]

Why is anyone

[@Charlieb6308]

AHH the old it's not what we want to hear so we'll ban it brigade. What a bunch of clowns

[@liamglowsplaces]

@@Charlieb6308 no it’s more she tanked the economy and has zero remorse. I think she’s just disrespectful that she refuses to show any sort of apology to the millions of people it affected. Not everyone is a “woke” “ban” brigade. You gammon.

[@gamos6698]

It’s the job of the media to provoke anger and fear in the general population

[@vincehammond1282]

This was a refreshing interview 👍

[@jeffsimon9594]

He is a relic from the '80s.. it is the complete opposite of refreshing

[@gerryclarke9795]

@@jeffsimon9594 With you being a relic of the 30's!

[@jeffsimon9594]

@@gerryclarke9795 I am the future 😘

[@minui8758]

@@jeffsimon9594truth is always refreshing no matter it’s age. That’s why Plato and Aristotle are still fresh 2500 years on

[@vincehammond1282]

@@jeffsimon9594 ok honesty and integrity out of date , I bet you think echr is out of date aswell ?

[@DanStrayer]

“Resurgence?” I didn’t even know she surged!

[@echobay5040]

Ben Elton. Spot on 👍

[@Silver-st2zq]

Well said Ben.

[@paulneedham3608]

Could do with Ben Elton as an MP always interesting to listen to

[@chatham43]

@paul And you don't have to think for yourself!

[@BanalayerPete1972]

@@chatham43: I doubt you have the option of thought. You certainly don't have an original thought. Sorry, not everyone can have charisma.

[@paoloc775]

MPs are not supposed to be ‘interesting to listen to’ They are supposed to do things

[@swordscot]

Would be hard to do as he lives in Australia

[@millwallholdings]

He bores me to death the old bore, Tbh thought he was brown bread

[@wainerollins2587]

Ben Elton still calling it correctly after so many years.

[@DarrenCaproli]

I saw Ben Elton on the feed and listrned to the whole of this and feel much better for doing so. what a lovely, well thought out and measeured interview. we dont hear it enough, but here's to the enlightenment ❤.

[@Dayrile123]

The issue lies in what James O'Brien describes quite brilliantly in his latest book. The strange symbiotic ecosystem we seem to have developed which enables politicians to lie and promote themselves as arbiters of truth. We need journalists to adhere to stricter principles of journalist rigor and hold these people to account. It is right that we stop cancelling people unless they promote hate and give hate speeches, but we shouldn't give people like Truss an hour of self promotion without challenging her substantively.

[@NeilLewis77]

It's ok, no one gets cancelled. Ricky gervais literally went on stage during one of his recorded Netflix specials and said horrible uniformed nasty things about trans people. When told that his comments were nasty and uninformed, he didn't learn and say sorry. He just lashed out and told the trans community that he knows more about the trans community than they do. He's not been cancelled for this behavior. He still has TV shows, movies, stand up shows and Netflix specials in the works. I can't think of anyone who has been cancelled unless they go full kramer from Seinfeld.

[@pipins3616]

Well said James

[@minui8758]

@@NeilLewis77 can’t stand Ricky Gervais. I’m ashamed to say we did the same degree course at the same university. We must blame his arrogance on being raised under Thatcherism I think because it certainly didn’t come from UCL

[@chatham43]

@Day Don't know why James doesn't get off his backside and enter politics..and do something about it!

[@NeilLewis77]

@@chatham43 that's not how journalism works. He's not a politician and doesn't want to be. He doesn't claim to represent a group of people and he isn't trying to get votes. This idea that people criticizing politicians should instead all become politicians has been going on for ages and it's silly.

[@pic101]

Well done Ben. Great piece. Fully agree. 👍🏻

[@hg82met]

"Resurgence" - like a storm overflow spewing raw sewage into a river.

[@annepoitrineau5650]

Sadly, this is exactly what is happening in the UK. Let that not be a prophecy of The Lettruss's return.

[@daisydeblincs1473]

Ben Elton is totally correct in his opinion & a voice of reason.

[@Batters56]

4:14 Well said Ben Elton

[@annepoitrineau5650]

People in the dark Ages or Middle Ages were not as unenlightened as they are famed to be. I am a medievalist, and I have read a lot of medieval texts. Lying, pulling the wool over people's eyes has happened through the ages, most specifically when somebody was attempting to be or being a dictator.

[@autoclearanceuk7191]

Do enlighten us about similarities between then and today ?

[@annepoitrineau5650]

@@autoclearanceuk7191 Ok, for example (even further back in time than the Middle Ages). Solon, one of th Greek Tyrants, was having a shave when a little accident happened and his barber hurt him a bit. said barber was apologising profusely, Solon jumped up and ran through Athens to claim somebody had just tried to assassinate him because he was feared by the bad people. He got elected. Fake news...Then: If you read feench Fabliaux, you will find of sorts of satyre againstt a greedy church, or women getting their own back on bad husbands. read the Canterbury tales, Of course the setting of the stories is medieval, but a lot of the way the characters think is very close to us. It is a little difficult to do what would be a whole course in a KZbin post. And then: Nero was accused of playing the lyra while Rome burnt: not true, but he was hated, and the senate wanted him ou (he was a populist and their privileges were at risk), so they spread a lot of rumours about him, which did result in is assassination. During the Middle Ages, several European dynasties lied about descending from saints etc. The catholic church was selling "indulgences". A nice little book to read. The characters are animals, but the stories are all about human gullibillity: Le roman de renard.

[@richardjoslin2549]

You mean, like mediaeval religious belief systems?

[@stephennicol-rj5vl]

The lunatics have taken over the asylum

[@richardjoslin2549]

You mean the Lefties?

[@RobBCactive]

In Delusion and Denial Liz Truss!

[@millwallholdings]

Like Ben Elton wow how old has he got

[@RobBCactive]

@@millwallholdings unlike the CaTrusstrophe Ben never was daft enough to destabilise the pension system.

[@M3M3M32]

Lis Truzz was PM for 46 very chaotic days. Why would anyone pay any attention to that trainwreck after that disaster.

[@orionv75]

Ben Elton - great to see him again, could listen to him all day

[@asadashraf2128]

Everyone has the right to not go and see a comedian, if they don’t like being offended.

[@richardjoslin2549]

Precisely.

[@davidwolfenden8289]

Well articulated Ben

[@orfybadawy]

I think that the answer at the moment lies with investigative journalism. Call politicians out and don’t let them get away with not backing up their arguments with facts

[@alexritchie4586]

You should read her book. It's written in a way that makes it seem like she was Prime Minister for years. She's quite literally delusional.

[@chatham43]

@alex Which you certainly haven't..and why would you?

[@BanalayerPete1972]

@@chatham43: You've become predictable in a matter of minutes. Congratulations!😆

[@Neilleeds]

Not in this lifetime

[@jaymareachealee3351]

Life is too short to waste time with the likes of Liz Truss. She found that out at the last election.

[@jeranemo5504]

Nice one Ben Elton. Legend and talks sense. 👍

[@maurbyrne]

Lovely to hear Ben Elton's clarity after all this time. More of that please

[@007floppyboy]

isnt it strange that Ben, a quite left person like myself, will defend NFs right to spout right wing sh1t3. Wont be reciprocated. The Right, let alone the far right, would have Ben et al, erased from any conversation.

[@johnrussell3961]

It’s down to decent politiceans to win the argument. Even Germany accepts the neo-fascists have a right to make their argument,

[@Batters56]

It’s a pretty fundamental part of democracy.

[@bordersw1239]

Any examples of that in the U.K?

[@007floppyboy]

@@Batters56 One which the right wing would have removed. NF LT are dictators in a cr4p disguise.

[@annepoitrineau5650]

As Voltaire said: "I disagree with everything you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". This is how you measure a real politician/philosopher/democrat.

[@janetbayford133]

Ben Elton is a really smart guy as well as an outrageously funny guy. Ian Hislop for prime minister but Ben Elton for deputy prime minister, in fact, giv’em a job share!

[@countgeekula9143]

Journos and the media need to do their jobs better. Do not go easy on them. Make it deeply difficult and uncomfortable for them to spout lies as if they are truth. Paxman would have made mincemeat of the likes of Truss.

[@bengrillet]

Elton is a hugely under-appreciated giant of incisive political wit and wisdom

[@kristianheadland8184]

Can’t wait to see Ben live finally. As always he brings the receipts.

[@simonporter8372]

As a now ex friend explained it to me "it's ok for them to lie as long as it keeps the likes of you in your place" At the time he was a member of the Torys...... He now thinks they're too left wing and is standing for Reform in local council elections.

[@beardedbloke2521]

I guess the Daily Mail and Daily Express succeeded in rewiring his brain.....

[@simonporter8372]

@@beardedbloke2521 Aspirant chief apron washer at local Masonic Lodge.....

[@annepoitrineau5650]

I wonder how you two became friends in the first place. Did you go to school, and the shared past created a bond that was unquestionable until...(This is what happened to me)

[@simonporter8372]

@@annepoitrineau5650 Knew his mother and grandmother. Mother about my age. He was landlord in a local pub that regularly had live bands on, so friends over mutual interest music wise. He stood as am independent in local council elections a few times before disappearing down a right wing rabbit hole....

[@mrlovegrove3327]

'Feeling uncomfortable' = Watching a Ben Elton musical. 'Feeling unsafe' = Tory government.

[@annepoitrineau5650]

Feeling nauseaus+tory government.

[@millwallholdings]

@@annepoitrineau5650 i feel like that every time i see a Labour mp Especially Tax dodging house corruption Raynor , When Sir smarmys on the country falls asleep

[@everettscott4745]

Ben Elton, absolutely fantastic, and refreshingly informative.

[@coppershark1973]

I miss Ben, he was GREAT as Saturday Night Live host. Bring it back, we need it!

[@merv592]

Loved hearing Ben Elton; cogent, reasoned and thought provoking. I will definitely check out his tour schedule.

[@padraigohooligan8363]

But the most important factor for populists, charlatans, influencers, etc to be ever in the public eye is the abject failure of journalists to fact-check them, expose their lies and hold them to account. That failure also includes Marr, who loves softball questions and a non-confrontational atmosphere.

[@KryptonitetoallBS]

Ben Elton talks so much sense, which is sadly missing in 2024 in the media and on-line!

[@jmcm8546]

How does anyone work alongside iain Dale as a colleague, and listen to his fawning and drivel over gormless Truss? She is a space cadet.

[@Smittumi]

4:40 this is the Liberal problem. In essence: 'All we can do is hope for better political leaders from inside a system that had produced these ones.'

[@GKEL18]

Ben, the next time I see you in Aussie I‘d be privileged to shake your hand. Very refreshing. Thank you.

[@patricklee6066]

Please dont say theyre defrosting this woman...i hoped shed gone back into cryogenic status.

[@philipcollins218]

Ben Elton is dreadful- that said he’s right about Truss - the woman is delusional, and needs locking up. It’s a disgrace

[@IndieGems2]

You've got Boris hanging around and you've got Truss trying to worm her way back in by any means possible. The Tories really have no shame and completely unable to admit their failings or take any responsibility for them.

[@TheLoneHoover]

The utter nonsense completely nailed . Thank you , Ben .

[@MarkWadsworth-c7n]

Ben Elton is just a national institution....he is a class act....

[@johnrussell3961]

If you went to a Pub Landlord comedy show, you took the risk of him picking you out , and making a joke at your expense.

[@vincentvangogh8092]

he still does it, no comedians have been stopped from being controversial they do it all the time, i can only think that the comploainers have never been to see a controversial comedian live.i could list a number of comedians here and abroad who just say what they think, im talking live but tv is another story

[@harrypainter7472]

@@vincentvangogh8092 Graham Linehan?

[@user-kf1he2pk3l]

Finally, someone talking some sense 👏👍

[@normasarsby1350]

What happened to the days when politicians had a sense of shame?

[@aero49plane]

I cannot remember any such time! They are everywhere, SNP, Labour, Liberals, Conservatives and don't be deluded by the likes of Ben Elton. Remember he's a comedian and spends his time destructively not constructively.

[@Debagio]

It's not a trait that psychopaths have.

[@StarklyUncomfortable]

Thank goodness people like Ben Elton still have a voice!

[@northernpaladin66]

Programmes like LBC and hosts like you Andrew are at the heart of the problem, and if you can't see that, then you have proved that point.

[@chriswilliams1096]

One way of improving the quality of political debate would be to make lying in parliament a serious offence with serious consequences. Elected politicians should be setting an example to the electorate, not demonstrating the political benefit of lying through ones teeth with no repercussions.

[@normanchristie4524]

It used to be a resigning matter, they now lie with impunity.

[@bganonimouse2754]

I'm sure that the fact that Ben Elton doesn't court the spotlight shows a healthy dislike of celebrity culture etc, but we need to hear more from Elton.

[@annettekearney9798]

Excellent everything he said.

[@roberthall4492]

I am fed up wirh Farage, Reece Mogg, Truss etc telling us they are battling the establishment. Ben is correct, rather than laughing at the nonsense they spout all that matters now is backing someone on the same side of the political divide as yourself. And still working class people think that these millionaires speak for them

[@juliangower2176]

There is something very sick about the Tory party in that it provides an avenue for the mentally disturbed narcissist oddities such as Truss to find a public stage to manifest their delusional picture of their perceived self-importance. While Labour and the Libs occasionally have such miscreants, the Tories have such disastrous headliners almost weekly. The other parties are far from perfect, but for anyone who cares about the future of our nation, democracy, and the progress of our globally interdependent humanity, use your vote wisely, and vote strategically to prevent and/or get rid of any tory candidate - that is the priority for the sake of us all and our shared future.

[@amc5966]

Ben Elton - a lifetime of brilliance.

[@RoyWhearty]

People knew their was a climate issue when even the young said, 'it's not like it was when I was a kid', Stark, sometime years ago. Now, the Great Barrier reef is bleaching 18 feet deeper than previously. Truss is not he only thing utterly depressing

[@anthonywilson-qk6bl]

Wow!, what a story. Living in Australia, but sadly it sounds familiar here. The political people in power make their own rules. But tell us all how we are so bad.

[@doppelnfts]

Well said.

[@tobybaker5187]

The fact that these people just won't go away is frightening.

[@paulhammond6978]

Ben Elton hasn't got any answers - this is "I hope a generation of politicians will come up that don't do this stuff" - really? How is that going to work when the last decades have proved how "this stuff" actually works, at least so far as winning power. Still, I'd rather listen to him promote his tour than Liz Truss promote her book.

[@smillner771]

I wouldn't call myself Ben Elton's no. 1 fan, but here he is brilliant.

[@PeterGreen-t8c]

Nailed it.

[@johnbannister1173]

Resurgence she needs to be in prison for ripping the British taxpayers off

[@kevinwalton4538]

Spot on Ben….

[@TippyI]

Ben has nailed it Post-truth is a return to the dark ages..

[@emmasayers7576]

Ben Elton, the voice of reason in the fa(r)ce of politics for decades.

[@naj114]

Liz Truss is like from a relationship we didn't choose but was imposed on us, and is now stalking the public.

[@videohistorysnippets8963]

Spot on Ben let’s deal with facts and move on from these bigots.

[@lizfuller400]

Being female myself, I hate to criticise women but really trust not Liz Truss, Cruella Braverman, Penny MORDOR, Petty Patel, disgraceful, compared to the marvellous Labour SHADOW? Cabinet. Angela Rayner, Yvette Cooper, and the rest. But that is not to say, the smirking TORY male cabinet are any better. Yuk????

[@KeithMoon1980]

Absolutely spot on

[@lordcharfield]

Love Ben Elton! I was wondering what ever happened to him just the other day. He looks great for 65.

[@neilmccartney4119]

Can someone please explain why a comedian makes more sense than the people elected to govern the nation?

[@davidh7088]

Because nobody votes for a comedian.

[@neilmccartney4119]

@@davidh7088 Boris had a HUGE majority.

[@keithclinch1303]

Amazingly well said.

[@michaelmouse4024]

The minute I picked up Truss's book I started laughing. One day I intend to read it

[@l3eatalphal3eatalpha]

If you want to hear a joke, ask a politician. If you want to hear the truth, ask a jester.

[@JamesLWilliams-k9x]

Who votes the jokes into power ?

[@kiwitrainguy]

The problem with political jokes is that sometimes they get elected.

[@glennb1679]

I love you Ben - our voice of reason for decades.

[@stevedrane2364]

Well done Ben and Andrew. . 👍👍

[@Roy-gi5ul]

Truss even LOOKS gormless in real life!

[@deanlowdon8381]

You improve the conversation with quality journalism, something which is sadly difficult to find these days…

[@dandax8707]

Liz Truss is the Majorie Taylor Green of the UK.

[@simoncardie9371]

Ben Elton was the best stand up i've seen. That was 86, yet still knows what he's talking about.

[@mryorkshire3623]

'' I'm a fighter, not a quitter !! '' The next day she resigned.

[@connclissmann6514]

... she resigned. Thank Goodness!

[@noodleperson17]

Brilliant! Bring back the Enlightenment.

[@barrythomas1336]

Well said Ben Elton. Let's not forget the Enlightenment.

[@syleshwhycantileavethisbla802]

100% agree with him, there's a difference between being uncomfortable and being unsafe. I do however think some comedians fail to look at the impact of their jokes on actual people, because its not always about people being "offended", oftentimes humour that skirts the line of decency does so by relying on negative stereotypes, and sometimes even harmful untruths. When a comedian makes a joke thay also spreads those untruths to theor audience, they have a potential of fueling hatred and spreading messages used to harm people. That's generally why the subjects of those jokes get upset, not becauae theyre offended but because they're seeing the spread of falsehoods that make them actually unsafe.

[@chatham43]

@sylesh Thin edge of the wedge.

[@steverafferty4114]

More Ben Elton please

[@Badchicken1]

Well done Ben .

[@annastracke5259]

Ben Elton, I could kiss you for saying- in a straight forward, no holding back fashion -what you think of Ms Truss and I wholeheartedly share your view. Phew, such a pleasure listening to you and Andrew Marr as well.

[@andrewhoult]

Its called 'hypernormalisation' . Adam Curtis coined it quite some time ago now in a doc he made.