Ben Shapiro ADMITS US Healthcare Sucks! But Keeps Defending It?

[@jcethan2859]

"The worst of capitalism and the worst of socialism." "You're health insurance shouldn't be tied to your employer." I'm'a break this Like button hitting it this hard.

[@FredP-t7f]

Ben Shapiro doesn’t have to worry about healthcare. He’s a multimillionaire.

[@Jake-Day]

Yep. And his wife’s a doctor. (He’d want me to remind you.)

[@isaacm5339]

That's so funny ​@@Jake-Day

[@tena7252]

Wanting your surgery paid for isn't a right or left issue.

[@eclark9965]

I don’t have to worry about it either. I’m in the middle class and have a job.

[@deltasyn7434]

@@eclark9965 You will if insurance denies your claim or gives you the run around.

[@azenkwed]

Shapiro: "If you have cancer, you would prefer to be in the United States". Everybody in countries with universal health care: "No we would not".

[@cbrindle91]

He forgot to say "if you are rich," before all that. 😂

[@ScarletRain_2967]

in my country, if u have cancer, the city take care of your whole bill, yes even that cocktails of medicine and the removal cost too

[@christinam2475]

I am a lefty. I love that there's right-left solidarity on this issue!

[@SecularPhilosophy]

@@christinam2475 no comrade, this isn’t a moment of left-right unity. We need to instead use this moment to WAKE UP those on the right to become leftists. We need to keep WAKING THEM UP

[@abrahammanzo2455]

Relax buddy. It’s about thinking critically about each specific issue and seeing what makes sense regardless of left vs right.

[@christinam2475]

​@@SecularPhilosophy Most people aren't interested in changing their politics after hearing a different viewpoint. It's pretty hard to convince someone to flip which side of the political spectrum they're on completely. How could we change people's minds?

[@SecularPhilosophy]

@@christinam2475 it’s about planning the seeds into their minds, that’s how I was converted to the left.

[@Davesmyname08]

@@SecularPhilosophy Hey "comrade", you and your ideological ilk have been busy spending the better part of a decade actively dividing people into arbitrary hierarchies of ascribed victimhood and complicity, all based on immutable characteristics like gender, race and sexuality. A division, I might add, that has been happily welcomed by these very conglomerates and oligarchs you claim to be fighting. There is no "joining" your side, you are quite literally tools helping to sunder so that those on top may continue to rule. What's left is for the sensible middle, the vast majority of normal decent citizens, to come together and break away from the delusions of both political extremes, and to unify against both you and the powers you've indirectly served.

[@NoctisAquila]

the rich are not your friend and will never be on your side but leeche off of you and get richer Ben Shapiro IS one of the people that want to uphold the system that fs you up you’ve gained a new subscriber

[@Lonovavir]

I live in a mostly right leaning area and the main response to the CEO..... not being around, is I don't agree with it, but I get it. There's little sympathy for UHC as it's burned people from all walks of life and with all manner of religious and political beliefs. Ben really walked into a minefield.

[@Sauron_the_god-king]

Ben Shapiro to me is someone who talks so much but says nothing of value.

[@Peter-nu8st]

The right wings kamala harris. Empty platitudes in a very well said word salad

[@Sauron_the_god-king]

@ yep, absolutely!

[@SeventhAnubis071]

Ben admires Golda Meir, but doesn't seem to know she brought welfare, social security, and national healthcare to Israel. Like Chris Cuomo whose own ancestors did the same as Luigi Mangione, but for workers rights and wages.

[@cbrindle91]

@@Peter-nu8stexcept Ben talks like a crack head, and Kamala sounds like she is loaded with Zoloft. 😂😅

[@frankchen4229]

@@Peter-nu8st kamala harris is right wing.

[@bensbrokenbones4102]

Voting the right people in only works if the people are given the right options

[@ellencox8415]

And if every politician didn't receive donations from the health insurance industry. Hint: every side receives their money which is why no politician ran on health insurance reform

[@bearsagainstevil]

I'm right wing British and love the NHS . talk to brits the vast majority are happy about the NHS .Ask brits whether they would cheer if anyone associated with healthcare was shot they wouldn't because they don't feel they are being screwed .How many medical bankruptcy's do you get in the UK none in the USA 530,000 a year

[@mobiusraptor7]

I like how the Right (in general) doesnt crucify you for holding that belief. The real problem is trying to implement such a policy here in the US is easier said than done. We have 300 million people. You guys dont even have 1/4 of that.

[@Web720]

Trump annexes Canada and we get their healthcare, nice.

[@Christopher_Irons]

​@mobiusraptor7 we also spend a bigger percentage of gdp on our military than UK.

[@bearsagainstevil]

@@Christopher_Irons your also richer than the UK ,we brought in the NHS just after fighting ww2 .And the system you have at the moment actually costs more but gets worse overall results because a lot of money goes in profits for insurance companies

[@bearsagainstevil]

@@Christopher_Ironstrump or vance in a few years could bring it in . you have free education apart from higher education you have a free fire service and police all paid through taxes . The uk most medical stuff is paid by the government through taxes . I have private dentistry, but have never wanted private health insurance . its not actually a left wing thing conservatives and many right wing people over here love the NHS

[@dr.diabetes6664]

I can absolutely confirm that there are millions of Americans of all political affiliations, races, creeds, and religions that despise the health insurance industry. I see them get denied necessary care every single day, and it’s demoralizing. My father was a staunch conservative and spent his last years clinging to life and begging for his insurance company to honor his policy. It’s ridiculous when I hear pundits frame this as a political issue; it’s a real problem that eventually affects almost everyone at some point.

[@KingOFuh]

Ben Shapiro LOVES his family's insurance and can easily pay the premiums.

[@TheEndofZombieShakespeare]

Who makes money off people getting sick? Who makes money off people hating one another?

[@RedneckandPinay]

I know, I know…🙋‍♂️Billionaires!!

[@SecularPhilosophy]

@@TheEndofZombieShakespeare the rich use the right (nazis and libertarians) to divide the proletariat and undermine the communist movement.

[@damienhunt4264]

Ben was so wrong on this, and he knows it.

[@outsideMax]

The problem with Ben is thinks he’s always right and can never admit he’s wrong, so he just doubles down.

[@bbearsmama]

Yep!

[@alessandroludovicostresa860]

As an Italian regular 40 years old father who loved sport and had two ACL surgery (18 and 30 years old) and recently had back surgery (calcified L5-S1 herniation at 42 y) i thank god i was not born in US cause i would be pratically paralized or broke as fuck...

[@GraceHall-d4g]

Voting the right people in? We’ve had both republicans and democrats in office and nothing changes!

[@RedneckandPinay]

All bought by the same people.

[@LogjammerDbaggagecling-qr5ds]

It's all an act meant to divide the working class so we don't fight back and take what is rightfully ours. There's like an inkling of class consciousness bubbling just below the surface these days. Look in to it.

[@fredgarvin4252]

Voting is a complete waste of time! James Carlin

[@InMyBunker]

Because America is owned by Israel and Bennie boy is an Israeli asset to keep us enslaved

[@LogjammerDbaggagecling-qr5ds]

KZbin seems to be censoring comments about class now, holy crap. Political parties are just a way of dividing the working class so we don't push back against our exploitation at the hands of the ruling class. It's really us versus them, but they want it to be me versus you.

[@josephabrams9032]

The profit margins are "thin" because the CEO, board, and upper executives pocket the profit. They offer what is effectively a utility so they can run on a thin margin and milk their customers who MUST use their service and pay into a rigged system. Looking at the stock value and compensation, evaluating these companies based on their profit margin is either disingenuous or ignorant. What investments does Ben have in his portfolio?

[@bbearsmama]

Ben is so out of touch with what working people actually experience. He’s made that abundantly clear.

[@robhill4200]

He does know precisely what working people have to endure. He just doesn't care. His job is to get paid to create division and foment fear and hate. He isn't even smart or brave enough to air his own views. His little diatribes are scripted by his paymasters.

[@marymcfarland3918]

Here’s a lesson regarding health insurance by employees. Yrs back it was a cheap benefit employers could give employees especially during union negotiations. Through the yrs health coverage became outrageous in price. It’s been a staple now that ppl do not want to lose.

[@cavejohnson4054]

We have a lot of old people and fat people that hog up the healthcare driving up the costs.

[@cbrindle91]

Years back it was *DEMANDED* from the corporations by the unions. It was cheaper because it was mandatory to be included in the benefit package given to vested employees. The corporation contributed more to the policy premium because more employees were covered. More employees being covered means they are paying premiums, as well. But everyone is chipping in more so the premium would go down. Theoretically how it works with an honest insurance company, at least... But these health insurance companies are corporations in a capitalist system without adequate regulations; they are allowed to operate with unrestrained greed.

[@markcronin2857]

I live in Australia, we have public healthcare, and I have a company vehicle, so my car insurance is tied to my employer, but my healthcare is taxpayer funded. 😂

[@JustinC721]

The fact of the matter is that if health insurance was not tied to our employer, that would allow the people to organize a boycott because they have a choice. And you better believe there would be a boycott against United Healthcare if we had that option. That would be a peaceful and fast solution but we are unable to do that.

[@joex24b]

"they" say violence in unacceptable referencing the shooter, but "they" never use the term "corporate violence." Denying claims is corporate violence.

[@LawandaFinch]

Obama Care literally ruined our healthcare system. My insurance cost are extremely higher than before

[@ablackknight2744]

So why isn't that the case in other countries that have universal health care?

[@David-bh1rn]

To be honest, before obamacare a lot of the same issues were still there. It honestly didn't do all that much positive or negative and things are just more expensive now across the board.

[@ablackknight2744]

@@David-bh1rn S...universal healthcare seems to be the answer here.

[@David-bh1rn]

@ablackknight2744 yeah but with how large private insurance companies are right now it would be probably really destructive to just ban them all overnight. A lot of people would lose their jobs and tbh i dont really see it ever happening.

[@ablackknight2744]

@@David-bh1rn Not overnight, but the gradual process should start.

[@WasFakestCenturyAesthetics]

Well I moved here from Canada (dual citizen, long story) and my healthcare is like Star Trek to me.

[@Jake-Day]

I’m so curious what you mean by that. 😄

[@WasFakestCenturyAesthetics]

@Jake-Day for example, before I moved back stateside I had been trying to get an appointment with a colorectal surgeon for an entire year. Here in Cackalack it took me two weeks, and he was cutting me two weeks after that. It didn't cost me an additional dime. I didn't have to share a hospital room with one or two other people. My phone dings and there are my test results. They tracked the healing of my incision with some kind of photogrammetry or 3d scan program on tablets. In Canada the more you earn the more you pay for the same quality of care, which decreases for every immigrant they bring in without any plan for healthcare, housing or jobs. And Poilievre is no Trump. Canada is in a bad way and it's going to take decades to recover. Even my most patriotic America-hating Canadian friend lives in Boston now.

[@LukeA1223]

Murphy’s law: healthcare isn’t

[@gaspybapinga5291]

You make great analysis. I'll recommend your channel to others. Our healthcare shouldn't be tied to the employers, and Ben's hypocrisy bashing Obamacare but is okay for insurance to choose our doctors.

[@A1B2946]

I believe that the issue of Healthcare lies in the lack of a Streamline, if that can make sense. The combination of Payroll Tax funded Medicare, Tax incentive stuff for Private Healthcare as well as Regulations in every point, and in my opinion...saturated competition...makes for a Logistical Nightmare.

[@Jake-Day]

Absolutely. You’re making complete sense.

[@deltasyn7434]

My problem with Shapiro's take is that most Americans aren't going to see the value in "the best healthcare in the world" if nobody can afford it.

[@cbrindle91]

See, the rich own the media outlets, so they are free to weave whatever narrative they desire without any meaningful pushback from another mainstream source. They are the ones who claim we have "the best healthcare in the world" because they can afford to utilize the system. They don't experience the issues every other American does, and nor will they acknowledge them in their reports. The system, from top to bottom, works for those with the bank accounts stocked with enough cash to manipulate it to their whims. They pump the fairytale that America has more freedom and opportunity than any other country on Earth, despite the cold reality the proletariat experiences within her borders.

[@LawandaFinch]

I can’t hardly stand Ben Shapiro.

[@cappy2282]

Ya never liked him

[@themanwithnothingtolose]

The grammar is broken. You're saying you can easily stand him?

[@SeventhAnubis071]

I wonder what Ben thinks of Golda Meir - " I suggest you watch the movie Golda Meir with Helen Meir. You can get a better understanding of the situation." Meir implemented welfare state policies, including social security, maternity benefits, and work-related accident insurance. Meir was a member of a commission that recommended nationalizing the health system.

[@beaumarty405]

Actually Jake, in the 60s & 70s corps got a bigger discount and could get policies cheaper for us. They could buy 100-200 policies at a time and get a discount.

[@Jake-Day]

Likely at the expense of people not at those companies. A business has to be profitable to stay in business after all. A discount for me has to be made up by others. Churches could’ve bought group insurance…. Or communities…. Ah shit. We’re doing socialism with extra steps aren’t we? 😅

[@benjaminattwell1430]

Thank you sir! You gained a subscriber!

[@kacidy]

It's funny, the moment you said "tying your CAR insurance to employment makes more sense than your health insurance" I instantly understood why. Not that either should be, but the logic is sound. The easiest solution is NOT to have the system be less complex. Medicine is, by its very nature as an advanced science, complex. Trying to square the circle doesn't work. The solution is to remove the profit motive that poisons any discussion about how resources should be allocated. Healthcare is simply not a good application of market economics, its a classic example of what is called 'inelastic demand'. In order for a market to be 'self-regulating' consumers need to be able to opt-out if the market as a whole has prices exceeding their ability to participate in said market. If you need healthcare you will pay anything, including well beyond your means to pay (through debt) because forgoing healthcare means either disability, future disability, or death. The same applies for clean drinking water, and in the US we established public water utilities to deal with this inelastic demand. We need public healthcare. Its not rocket science.

[@Web720]

1:15 Yeah it was heckin good when we invaded Iraq and wasted $6 trillion over a decade later.

[@andrewtc95]

Obamacare? Yes, I agree that sucks.

[@FredP-t7f]

He put up his arms. There’s no muscle there Ben Shapiro wouldn’t last five minutes in a real fight

[@Jake-Day]

Sorry Fred, I changed the thumbnail. I had to. I didn’t want to put anyone else’s eyes through that. 😂

[@noneyabidness9644]

I'm a life-long conservative. Ben is an idiot. It doesn't matter who we vote for, corporations own them all.

[@reenylynne8652]

OMG - I agree with Tucker Carlson on something. What kind of topsy-turvey world do I live in! 😂

[@JesseWright68]

Shapiro is such a worm.

[@eclark9965]

When you’re struggling to get 1k views in 24 hours, start putting famous people in your titles. Describe for me your alternative medical system that’s doing well. Canada is out. Great Britain is out. Any other ideas?

[@tena7252]

Medicaid in NY covers a lot.

[@thiagof414]

Thanks

[@tena7252]

Im glad Shapiro listened to his audience.

[@scampifrity]

Still he doesn’t care, at all

[@SecularPhilosophy]

Message to any conservatives who are reading this: are you in favor of socialized healthcare?

[@andrewpodolio59]

im from Canada, socialized medicine sucks. dont make the same mistake that we did

[@SecularPhilosophy]

@ but are poor people denied healthcare?

[@Jim-r8]

I'm Canadian too, and it saved and prolonged my grandmother's life.

[@andrewpodolio59]

@@SecularPhilosophy its getting worse. hospitals are understaffed (lots of doctors go to America), the equipment is getting old, and overall the system is very strained and people are demoralized. there have already been incidents of people dying while waiting in emergency rooms.

[@RobotCrafter1]

The government messed up U.S. healthcare and got us to this point. Surely if we give the government all the power over healthcare, it'll be fine.

[@Hopscotch463]

He’s not defending it. He’s saying that we should not unalive people for simply working in the industry. None of the criticism for the health care system works. Universal health care countries also have extremely bad systematic issues. Maybe the reason our healthcare is because it’s a government hybrid. That creates monopolies? And doesn’t allow really any good competition? All of yo on the left.. “no that’s not it. The CEOs that run this system must be evil. And if we unalive them the system will be better” that’s your actual solution? Ewww

[@samuelasanderinos1521]

The CEO was really effective though. “under Thompson's leadership, UHC profits increased from USD 12 billion in 2021 to USD 16 billion in 2023” Also, they should be honest and transparent about their AI model and rate of denials.

[@Hopscotch463]

@ correct but unaliving someone for the entire healthcare debacle is insane and sets a dangerous precedent. Bernie sanders poor leadership on the V/A leadership can be direct reasons why people lost their lives. I wouldn’t argue that if someone should unalive Bernie. This is disgusting. This CEO was a father, son, husband and his family gets to watch his death turn into a giant joke on all mainstream media and talk shows. It’s disgusting.

[@soryforbadenglesh2550]

Dislike

[@Galleon-j3d]

I lived in a universal healthcare country in western Europe for a while. They simply would not do a thing for me when i got sick! My family member had a friend in another wealthy Western European nation with single payer. They misdiagnosed her cancer type and gave her the wrong treatment. Fortunately, they figured out the error while she still had an excellent chance of suurvival. Unfortunately they refused to treat her once they knew the correct treatment. She pleaded with them to no avail. She traveled and paid for an experimental treatment in China, went into remission, but ultimately passed away. That is why I oppose full scale single payer. Health insurers in the U.S. are also failing us. Maybe a form of medicare with medicare advantage type plans, or heavily subsidized employer mandates, combined with medicaid options for the self employed, as Nixon proposed in the seventies.

[@NoctisAquila]

dislike! booticker

[@Zomfoo]

Should be totally private and unregulated. Medicare for all would be a disaster.

[@bryanb3352]

Is all you do lie about what Ben has said?

[@FredP-t7f]

He put up his arms. There’s no muscle there Ben Shapiro wouldn’t last five minutes in a real fight