Ben Shapiro Calls Out Majority Report | Destiny Reacts

[@LastNightDestiny]

Majority Report Fans REVOLT And Side w/ Shapiro... ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKOVgpKwgr11i68

[@kokushibyō-f9i]

It's lethal if you die, that's what makes it lethal😂. I'm just talking about the word

[@adamgarner4149]

Not surprising they've lost touch, didn't majority report used to pride itself on being "the thinking man's TYT"? Now it's arguably more clickbaity, low effort and scummier than TYT. One video title claimed that guy from serfs "SHREDDED" Tim Pool (LOL). Some of these left-wing outlets can't see how ridiculous they look outside their bubble. Just go through their videos and read titles to see for yourself. Partisan hackery at it's best

[@thecatisaleive]

​@@kokushibyō-f9i😅😅😅😅ú😅😊😊😊

[@DoctorNERO616]

Careful Destiny, if you critique even some of the the logic on the left, you might get branded a right wing extremist.

[@kennythawsh]

Sam can imagine his kid having a seizure and a marine choking them out but he can’t imagine his kid being assaulted by a crazy person? Lmao this is just willful moronism

[@falseprophet1024]

I clicked on this comment intending to play devils advocate, and for the first time in my life, I've got nothing. Touche, sir...

[@thisisone9529]

I think you're giving Sam too much credit. He is a moron, unwillfully. I have no idea why anyone claims otherwise. His entire shtick is to set up gotcha moments, cherry-pick oppositional argumentation, etc. He is the epitome of bad faith. Then, when you call him out on his bs, he tries to gaslight you.

[@kennythawsh]

@@thisisone9529 true true

[@wiczus6102]

@@thisisone9529 Bad Faith = Willful.

[@thisisone9529]

@@wiczus6102 yes. He's an unwillful moron, but he wilfully cherry-picks gotcha style moments. Does that clear it up?

[@stratocaster1986able]

Does Sam really believe that if his child had an epileptic seizure on a train that a marine is gonna come up behind them and choke them out???

[@addie1080]

yeah I thought that was a really silly comparison!

[@doxpin7432]

No he’s just a midwit sophist

[@zer0nix]

If we formalize the acceptance of removing 'nuisances' lethally because 'society doesn't need more of that kind of person' then yes. Most of the mass shooters and people who assault minorities and destroy minority owned property (such crimes went way up after trump) are emboldened by messaging and policy from officials giving them a green light for violence. This is a well known phenomenon. It is why stochastic terrorism is a thing. At least a quarter of this country hasn't gotten the message that Malthus's prescriptions haven't been valid for over a century.

[@quillclock]

hyperbole. just hyperbole. just take whatever they say and divide the intensity by 2 to get a somewhat reasonable take. honestly its the only way i can look at any of this with good faith.

[@MrArielK]

@@quillclock how does one divide intensity?

[@theophilegaudin2329]

Destiny responds to MR responding to Shapiro responding to Vigeland. I am now officially terminally online.

[@goRoberth]

The D in DGG stands for Degenerate

[@stridge1324]

First time?

[@faikerdogan2802]

😂😂😂😂 welcome

[@Earthad23]

@@faikerdogan2802 make a response video

[@bobDotJS]

I know for a fact that I've reacted to Destiny reacting to content creator X reacting to content creator Y. Luckily I don't make content online to be reacted to.

[@rdg7250]

Emma Vigeland is literally a progressive npc

[@mulatso7959]

Yes, but no, I don't simp for anyone parasocially, but Emma is out of bounds. I hate when the D-man goes off on her stupid shit.

[@jon9428]

@@mulatso7959 cringe...

[@nighthowell]

She’s so annoying, and Seder was at his lowest here- very disappointing. The epilepsy thing was pure cringe.

[@adaa1078]

@@mulatso7959hat if she just shut the fuck ups on topic she has no idea about

[@dmvbawse4265]

And a privileged chick who came from extremely wealthy parents who have donated large sums of money to politicians.

[@Vosk21]

The bourgeoisie expectation that I shouldn't be threatened by a psychopath on public transit. Breadpills are absolutely thought-terminating

[@TheEccentricPoet]

I have epilepsy, and I cannot begin to express how unimaginably stupid Sam's example is about his daughter getting hypothetically hurt by subway vigilantes freaked out by her hypothetical seizure. I'm medicated, but I have had a few breakthrough seizures in public over the years, and from what I've been told (since I'm unconscious at that point), the bystanders were all very concerned and prompt in calling 911. Not one of them actually thought I was going to hurt or kill them, can you believe it? Imagine that. Jesus, what a dog shit thing to say.

[@happyhappy85]

In all fairness, the lead singer for Joy Divisions epilepsy would manifest with him trying to attack his band mates when he had an absence, so it does happen.

[@moneygrab610]

There was an incident I witnessed a year or two ago riding public transit (bus). Some guy had a seizure and ended up flailing about and getting a sizable gash on his head from doing so. He was bleeding a good bit and was not addressing the wound, so the driver stopped and everyone in the bus was either attentive to the guy or minding their own business. He was noncompliant, even when EMS came, but he was not making threats or giving people a reason to restrain him. EMS and police were eventually able to get him off the bus with a combination of persuading and ushering. It added two hours to my commute, but I was happy to see he was able to get medical attention. That is ideally what should happen, in my opinion. There is a level of escalation. The first reaction should not be physical addressal, but obviously it can reach that point. Restraining in the case where there is a real threat is okay, but clearly not to the point of death. Even if some one is having a seizure and gets violent, it should be the case where they can be safely restrained until law enforcement comes to mediate.

[@go_nav96]

To be fair, you're a non-threatening looking white woman.

[@falseprophet1024]

Are you telling me that people can tell the difference between a person suddenly having a seizure, and an aggressive homeless dude threatening people... How do they do it? Lmao...

[@TheEccentricPoet]

@@happyhappy85 From my understanding, partial onsets that act out severely are rare and not nearly this lucid in their aggression. But I could be wrong.

[@doobas2171]

Someone flailing around and accidentally hitting you isn’t the same as someone saying I’m ready to die and threatening people 😹😹😹

[@happyhappy85]

Someone threatening people saying "I want to die" does not mean you should choke them for a good 10 minutes after they lose consciousness. Like... The left are saying some dumb shit obviously, but where is destiny's pushback against the rights position here? Where?

[@grizzly311tr]

​@happyhappy85 going after the marine deincentivizes citizens from helping citizens during emergencies. Under normal circumstances that's good. Things aren't normal though, the police are half neutered half aloof

[@deschain1910]

@@grizzly311tr Yeah, this concerns me. There are already multiple instances in places like the UK where bystanders just stood there while someone was killed, and it's starting to happen more in the US too. I get not wanting people to overreact, but I also don't want people to underreact either...

[@vorbo01]

​@@grizzly311treven in normal circumstances that isn't good. People should help protect each other from violent people.

[@falseprophet1024]

​@@grizzly311tr Fuck you mean thats usually good?

[@deschain1910]

The Majority Report is one of the worst things on the internet right now...

[@CeasiusC]

They've always seemed to be a niche of a niche channel. Not really relevant at all. Like there's TYT, then theres a little more obscure like Secular Talk or David Pakman then even a few layers down there's majority report

[@nimbletimplekins7601]

​@@CeasiusC and then deep beneath all of those layers is the Thom Hartmann blueanon cult

[@WizzKidxKOx]

They had their stuff together from 2016-18 for being anti biden and anti right, they're just really uncritical of the left and have a liberal mask on.

[@Scott-qo1eq]

Agreed. It’s almost satire at this point.

[@awill3454]

Majority Report has well over 1M subs and is bigger than Secular Talk. It’s been around since the mid 2000s when it was on radio. Before that Sam Seder had a fairly successful acting career. It’s not really niche but he just surrounds himself with morons like Emma. It was a pretty good show when Michael Brooks was alive

[@fifiadan]

The way these progressive types talk about conservatives is just so extreme and silly. She really said Ben Shapiro wants to take out the undesirable black people, like what??

[@zer0nix]

There continue to be numerous lynchings that go unaddressed. Many used to be simply labeled suicide despite the impossibiliy of such, but now the lynch mobs are getting bolder. There was that black kid who was found beheaded about a week ago, for instance. The SS were never an official part of the German police or military. They were just given a green light by officials who used their official voice to publicly advocate for such actions and who refuse to prosecute when attackers get caught. The first Muslim female judge in the us was found dead in a river in 2017. The police declared it a suicide despite her having bruising on the neck. There is one side that calls for this, celebrates when it happens, and fights back against any kind of measures that would give accountability to prevent such occurrences.

[@Jjjof]

Exactly, it’s always hyperbole and fearmongering and people eat it up

[@owen3721]

That's clearly the subtext to Shapiro's commentary. Conservatives talk about "cleaning up the streets" being the solution to homelessness.

[@cius2112]

@@owen3721 do yall ever take a break from lying and gaslighting?

[@owen3721]

@@cius2112 Do you know what a dogwhistle is?

[@olemanyounger5040]

I can't believe an innocent working class man with epilepsy was murdered. I'm on your side Emma, nothing makes me feel better about my self than being assaulted on the subway.

[@phoboskittym8500]

Its not a good day until you have been assulted on a train.

[@VOLUMEnightclub]

@@phoboskittym8500I felt marginalized by not being assaulted at penn station…what’s this world come to when you can take the train peacefully

[@maggot1111666]

the fact that emma vigeland had one of the most aristocratic upbringings possible puts a lot of things into perspective

[@bp6421]

She is from nj I guess that’s aristocracy

[@jeremysellors9405]

@@bp6421her family is rich and put her through prestigious private schools her whole life, the average person from the suburbs even has had a less privileged and sheltered life than her

[@Nettamorphosis]

THANK YOU to the guy who informed Jidion that we do not care! I hate when ppl call in with BS during an interesting topic!

[@flextherager792]

Its ok

[@DoneDealAC]

Hop off. Your girl is already on it.

[@Kev7035]

We do care, widion is better than whatever tf you wanna watch

[@MiKey-cj2fo]

It’s all you would expect from a Gigachad gym flair

[@aSSGoblin1488]

I WAs hoping jidion was going to provide insight or interesting commentary... then boots. sigh

[@common0324]

Put the whole majority report staff in a subway car and let me in there for 5 min and I guarantee their opinion would change easily.

[@Moshm4n]

It's always the "I'm just like the poors"; "I'm just like you" pretenders who can send their children to learn the ABC's for $40k/yr.

[@henryburton6529]

She doesn't say I'm just like the poors ever. In the video we're watching she addresses she grew up rich. WTF are you talking about? Are you stupid or a liar? Maybe both?

[@MrSenserus]

It's because none of the negative impacts of progressive politics affect these people. Progressive agendas are just a way to morally propel yourself upwards in the social hierarchy, and they're often incredibly wealthy because none of the negative impacts of their ideas will reach them.

[@henryburton6529]

@@MrSenserus Charles this is actual garbage. Progressive politics help poor people at the expense of rich elites. Thats why they've spent billions persuading you of the opposite. Sadly in your case those billions have worked very well.

[@amazin7006]

​​@@MrSenserus what negative impacts? I love how you people can only ever make personal attacks instead of talking about any actual policy 😂 Sad and pathetic

[@amazin7006]

​@@MrSenserus They're often wealthy because they're often smarter than you. Progressives are just better than you, which is why they support the better policies.

[@inatani0]

People really shouldn't underestimate how unsafe public transport can be (especially in the evening/night). For educational/personal reasons I take public transport nearly every day and I've witnessed the wildest shit. A week doesn't go by without me witnessing dealing of drugs, theft and assault.

[@kf338]

Marta used to be wild idk how it is now

[@Mallard942]

Public transport in my country is entirely safe, we have none of these issues, so clearly you're doing something massively wrong of you're letting it happen. We don't even let people drink in public, and homelessness is not tolerated. If you can't tale care of yourself, we have institutions that will remove you from wider society where you could do legitimate harm and put you into a group home or a mental institution, depending on the problem.

[@moustachio05]

​@@Mallard942 are u from Finland too?

[@Mallard942]

@@moustachio05 Sweden, but it's generally true across Scandinavian culture.

[@pieshka4509]

I've seen a woman every day do the drug nods and spill a drink on the floor, and got harassed by a guy in a wheelchair who I didn't notice was getting off despite my voluntarily debarking to let him off first, even some fights on city buses. Subway/metro trains are soooo much worse

[@Assaut19283]

>They want the public transit to be squeaky clean and safe! Imagine thinking wanting to be safe in public is bad. These people are insane. This is why public transit in the US is looked down on so much and has so little funding.

[@twiedenfeld]

It's not that it's bad, it's that it may not happen, and we have to be able to deal with it in a humane way.

[@garfeellsagna3326]

Nibbas constantly condone/ outright promote low trust societal behaviors are suprised when common people respond in a low trust societal manner

[@naniurackass7793]

You’re not allowed to kill people

[@johnnyboy2537]

​@@naniurackass7793 Defending yourself and others isn't murder. Never has been.

[@VashTheDamnFiend]

@@naniurackass7793 how low is your IQ?

[@Glory2Glorzo]

She doesnt want your help guys. So if she's being dragged off by some guy into a dark alley to be violated, she doesnt want your help

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

That's not what she said.

[@Glory2Glorzo]

@@JohnSmith-yd5wq OH! that's definitely what she said.

[@pastrybaker72]

Destiny's evil dubstep arc.

[@tesselate8nowait262]

I kinda like it tho

[@huare7946]

Anyone know what it's from

[@gleebybooer]

@@huare7946 I know the intro songs go hard and I can never find the name. I know some of them come from the first hotline miami soundtrack, chud uses it too

[@notan3144]

They've been using this for months on occassion.

[@magganon]

goes kinda hard

[@zdog058]

I love people who nothing about restraint or combatives talking about what one should do

[@SpardasTechReviews]

So let me get this straight. It's not cool to bring up the criminal record he had that nobody knew about until after the fact, but it's totally fine to bring up that he was having a mental breakdown something that also wasn't known until.... after the fact.

[@yasszone8694]

The funniest thing is that, even if we grant this, it's still fucking stupid to think that someone who is having a mental breakdown isn't potentially dangerous. Shit, they are even more likely to be dangerous. Imagine if the people look at the guy, realise he's having a mental breakdown and just decide to ignore him... I would bet my life-savings that the situation would turn out very sour very fucking fast.

[@ron4tron]

@@yasszone8694 Knowing someone was having a mental breakdown can help to characterise them to a degree, and it may make the result of whatever exchange occurred feel more unfortunate, etc. But that doesn't necessarily change how one should act in a dangerous situation. If someone is having a mental breakdown and there is little to no threat posed, yeah, you should probably lean towards the less aggressive alternative, but that is only if you KNOW that in the moment. If someone is having a mental breakdown and there is a threat posed, then the response is just about the same as it would be to someone posing a threat in general. Do not risk yourself, or especially other people around you, to give leeway at EVERY opportunity.

[@Decrystallizing]

I mean it’s pretty obvious he was having a mental breakdown from his behavior, but not reacting with any compassion, no one trying to deescalate him etc. sucks. But also, it’s not anyone’s responsibility to react well to a person having a mental breakdown, so, it’s not black and white by any means. Also, no one in the situation knew he had a criminal record, so it had literally no bearing on what happened in the situation, which is why it’s kind of unfair to bring it up after the fact. It’s not like the marine was like “this guy is a known criminal saying aggressive stuff, so I need to take him down.” Bringing up his record after the fact is pretty blatantly an attempt to cast the marine’s actions in a better light post-hoc.

[@WarsWorth]

@@yasszone8694 but you don't hold a chokehold for 15 minutes. The guy was a marine. He should know they're lethal past 15 seconds

[@yasszone8694]

@@WarsWorth I didn't talk about whether the actions taken by the guy were appropriate but it's PRETTY EVIDENT that doing nothing WAS NOT the right answer which is exactly what those retards from Majority Report want people to do.

[@DB-dc9cr]

I don't know if I am a woman but homeless people can be quite scary

[@bestdjaf7499]

Some people are saying that men shouldn't even approach women, b/c it's traumatizing. I remember Women claiming PTSD b/c someone ask them to smile, or touched their leg.... It's paradoxical how quickly the same people are now totally cool with a crazy guy screaming & threatening women.... Aperantly even punching a woman on a subway is not a big deal!

[@bestdjaf7499]

@E Zo As Destiny would say, The most dangerous person is the person who have nothing to lose.

[@bestdjaf7499]

@E Zo "The most dangerous creation of any society is the man who has nothing to lose." - James Baldwin (Surprisingly not some Greek guy. Well, probably the Greeks had a similar quote).

[@adamyooz]

I kinda feel like it depends on the city. When I’m in Seattle, those homeless ppl don’t really bother me but in Miami we have some fuckin wild ones.

[@GEM4sta]

​@@bestdjaf7499100% someone could have a PTSD episode from either of those. And both are very weird and cringe things to do tbh, touching anyone is weird af unless you know them really well

[@austin_bennett]

I absolutely love the phrase "death choke" it gives off the same energy as assault weapons & its nice to see in the dystopian future when firearms are so restricted that there will still be insane phrasing to make people wanna ban "the death choke." Also I think it's insane how they try to spin Ben wanting to keep the status qyo yet 2 seconds earlier the one woman essentially said "oh this is an average NY experience, why's the homeless man a problem"

[@ComradeLibertarian]

"common sense arm control"

[@Rellikan]

​@@ComradeLibertarian "common sense"

[@biziblanco]

​@@ComradeLibertarian "assault choke with an enlarged muscleceps"

[@kilgoretrout4461]

Just watch, they’ll try to ban arms after they get all the guns.

[@johncage3969]

It was an "ultra death choke"

[@Beezer1742]

If you think the dude was “choking” him for 15 minutes, you’re wrong.

[@tx5918]

Imagine spending all that money as a parent on education and getting her as the finished product. Oof

[@Grassroots_Hegemon]

"We want community policing" *Chokes out Schizo on a train* "No not like that!"

[@in_a_tizzy]

yes

[@1Geeked]

This but unironically

[@BluntforceJ]

They keep saying "someone having an episode" when it was actually someone yelling "I want food and I won't take no for an answer" or "I don't care if I die" or "I'll hurt anyone on this train." BIG difference.

[@joshvarga3591]

I can't fathom spending that kind of money schooling my kid just for her to come out and spout the most low resolution bad faith takes on anything

[@thrash208]

I hate to say it but if the races were reversed Sam would be "guzzling buckets of his CxM"

[@Earthad23]

For sure

[@Rellikan]

I appreciate the gender neutral inclusivity of placing the x over the u. Girl cxm matters too.

[@Boomoose]

1:14:35 she’s so caught up on the generator while she doesn’t even know how a generator works lmao

[@Briman13]

Bro that intro song is sick

[@JoeMama-wz5rw]

Darude - Sandstorm

[@wariogotdeleted]

@@JoeMama-wz5rw exactly the type of joke I’d expect from somebody with that username. I hate you

[@yyzzyysszznn]

​@@JoeMama-wz5rw joe mama darude sandstorm 69 upvotes edit thanks for the gold

[@Not_Qwake]

And way too fucking loud

[@Mexicavillebrandon]

It annoys me that this some how became a very political topic, I understand both why this guy would get charges and why he intervened to try and protect everyone else but the fact that it would seem the charges he will receive will likely be heavily determined by politics leaves a sick feeling in my stomach

[@RivetCityRamsey]

Holy hell, the takes in the majority report. 😂

[@Rellikan]

They are almost as dumb as Hasan Piker takes.

[@kuroichan101]

Im empathetic to both sides because my dad is schizophrenic. Some one can find him scary in an episode and not know that hes not gonna harm them, i wouldnt want him killed over that. However, some homeless people are fucking scary. Ive seen batshit crazy perveted homeless people in miami

[@edgarjc9275]

Watching Destiny watching the Majority Report Watching Ben Shapiro watching a clip from the Majority Report was inception weird, or maybe just weird.

[@TurtleChad1]

People still watch the Majority Report?

[@Grassroots_Hegemon]

No actually it's got a shitload of subs but its kind of a dead channel funnily enough. They've said enough dumb stuff their audience is usually through other people making fun of them

[@rumbletown1563]

Emma’s grade school is more expensive than my college tuition 😂

[@traveel9409]

19:45 “Even in the Destiny sense I don’t think she’s very smart” It was at this moment Destiny admitted his orbit is stupid

[@hatdags102]

Not sure why Destiny is being so pedantic and bad faith here. Their arguments were very poorly constructed but the steelman was so easy. Yes, a punch becomes "lethal" the second it kills someone just like a car crash becomes "fatal" the second someone dies in one. That's not a "loaded" term it's descriptively accurate. No, it's likely they brought up his military background not because they "hate" military people but because someone with extensive training and knowledge on physical combat is probably going to be held to a higher standard of culpability than a random citizen. I'm usually a fan of his takes but he was needlessly triggered over this topic for some reason.

[@gato4920]

To be fair this guy dying is literally why we have mental health treatment. It is entirely possible that the guy attempting to restrain him AND the guy who died could be considered victims of that mental illness. It's not about good or bad here.

[@DirtCobaine]

Good take as someone who is very familiar with mental health illness and treatment

[@quillclock]

fence sitter! jk very logical take

[@henhousecannibalstudios310]

Right!

[@henhousecannibalstudios310]

But this is exactly why I agree with Sam that it’s a legit concern our kids and loved ones are in public with people not only carrying high capacity weapons but also some who are trained to kill with their hands , all with possible/ likely mental health concerns

[@NotimetoVero]

True, that mental illness would explain what he did- and explain all of the people here defending a person being killed for yelling.

[@nicholasg.5441]

People talking like they clutch their purse and cross the street when they see a homeless person

[@braxtonkoller1060]

Shit if they say they are willing to die I would lol

[@iamsheep]

Emma is against safe spaces

[@walterwang4669]

What’s that intro song? Shit slaps

[@TehCredibleHulk]

The problem isnt the lack of law enforcement although the homeless def get away with alot, it's the laws and legislation that actively makes it easier to live on the street. The fact that Destiny questions whether these people would even accept "free" housing if it wasn't in LA kinda underscores the problem. It's like we collectively forgot the meaning of the word "public". A public space means that it's maintence is paid for by the public, i.e. tax dollars, not that you're free to do whatever you want there.

[@danilopapais1464]

Wow, this woman would fit right in with the panel of "The View".

[@Auxified]

Listening to this woman claim that keeping these people off the transport systems creates an unlivable environment that only benefits real estate interests is actually making me lose braincells. Obviously if this guy is not able to get food on the transport system it doesn't seem very livable for him either, he should get the hell off.

[@fanaticbox]

And live where???

[@Auxified]

@@fanaticbox That's for him to figure out. Probably near one of the many charitable organizations in this country, which are funded by the people who use those transportation systems. I've volunteered for a food shelf, and they did not seem to have any issues feeding everyone who showed up.

[@fanaticbox]

@Auxified lmao, by one of the very few charitable organizations. You mean the streets. So you going yo still see them and have the same problems

[@Auxified]

@@fanaticbox It is what it is bro. If he has a nice paved street to live on next to a charitable organization that will provide him food, clothes, and a sleeping bag then he should be appreciative given that he contributes nothing back to society and literally does not have a single person willing to take him in. I'm sure the people in Nigeria that live on top of sewage shit&piss rivers that have to sell the sewage shit&piss fish that they catch in that river in order to buy cheaper quality fish would prefer that arrangement. Dude could probably be eating ravioli and baked beans while doing absolutely nothing for society.

[@fanaticbox]

@Auxified your proving Emma's point. You're dehumanizing people because they bring nothing of worth you. If there were all these mystical foundations, why would people be sleeping in the subway. In NYC homeless people would sleep in the city parks, but then they were ran out of the parks. So they went underground. The truth is your not happy with them being anywhere and would love to live in the purge

[@daniellong7926]

Best Emma quote: " it's really frickn' twisted."

[@sevengauge89]

As a former homeless man in Houston.... this guy has literally no clue what he's talking about.

[@Austinpl0x]

B u c k e t s

[@Xbox360mIRC]

Majority Report is probably the best satire channel out there. The ability to just come up with the dumbest things possible on a daily basis is amazing.

[@AfterLiveAnalysis]

Imagine equating homelessness with working class. Nice.

[@gogob2008]

it is, what are you talking abou?

[@taylorfredrickson7750]

In Seattle I saw someone had cut two campers in half and stacked them to make a two story camper on the side of the road.

[@csbrooks]

Those Jidion Kirby boots were fresh

[@Vic2point0]

Hey man, if my fist wants to fly at someone's face, who are they to object? Do they know what it feels like to be a fist identifying as blush? *I DIDN'T THINK SO!*

[@snarfbomber298]

“Lethal chokehold” is weird wording maybe but it’s definitely not a restraint. You don’t restrain somebody by stopping the flow of blood to their brain. Your either knocking them unconscious (like 6-7 seconds) or killing them (2-3 minutes) like this guy did.

[@pieshka4509]

Control the neck, control the body. It's a martial arts idiom with grappling for a reason

[@SiojaTke]

"Knocking someone uncoscious" has a higher chance of permenant damage than making someone go to sleep. There is no better restraint method for an unarmed person than a chokehold. Grant it obviously also comes with the risk of permenant damage, but a lot less of a risk than any other u armed "restraint" method

[@bradmiles1984]

@@pieshka4509 That's the problem untrained people can't tell the difference or if someone is in danger or not.

[@NicholasW943]

11:30 felt a little pedantic. Destiny's right, a lot of things are made lethal by taking them to the extreme when they normally aren't, but a chokehold held this long is obviously lethal. Calling it a "lethal chokehold" isn't loaded in this case. It wasn't some freak accident that no one could've seen coming like a sucker punch somehow killing someone. It'd be a little autistic to call that a "lethal beating" simply because it resulted in a death. A more apt analogy would be somebody punching someone, getting on top of them, then hammering away at their head for minutes on end. Dying from that is pretty reasonable to expect, so calling it a "lethal beating" in that case would be fair. Same thing with a chokehold cutting air/blood off for 20-30 seconds vs several minutes.

[@RebirthFlame]

I had no idea Seth Meyers would randomly show up and talk to Steven.

[@notcanibus4764]

dude from the majority report looks like Ben Thorp. before the divorce though

[@foop145]

You mean while he thought he was married 😂

[@CornPopWasABadDude]

Omg true!

[@roentgen571]

"Lethal" choke holds have been used in judo matches in the Olympics since the 1960s without a single death. Yeah, they CAN be lethal if you hold on too long, or if you crank the spine. They can also very safely subdue a subject.

[@markerickson6320]

What are you talking about? Sambo has chokeholds and painholds, judo only has immobilising holds and throws. I've done it for a few years and never even saw a chokeholds. Is it BC I was a kid or European?

[@crayondude8014]

jidion interruption was funny af

[@Obi-Wan_Jabroni]

Those boot are ugly af

[@HomemadeSubmarine]

Destiny continues to be inconsistent on intelligence. Calling Emma stupid while standing by calling Lav smart is ridiculous. Emma is completely ideologically captured but Destiny wheeled out America’s literacy rate to defend calling Lav smart OMEGALUL

[@frankmarano1118]

Yeah I was going to say the same thing. Yes Emma is very far left but she's smart enough to not do all the insane s*** that lav does

[@TonyCox1351]

Destiny has said many times that “dumb” is just a label people use when they disagree with someone’s opinion. So I actually think he’s being consistent here

[@jovonn8303]

@@TonyCox1351 then why won't he call lav dumb?

[@TonyCox1351]

@@jovonn8303 Well he called her a dumb bitch to her face

[@nikobates6897]

@@jovonn8303 Probably because he thinks Lav is a smart person that is too emotionally compromised and does stupid things, and he boxes the MR lady as being a dumb person who peacocks as someone who is smart. “Smart” for Steven probably refers to some innate or potential intelligence he sees in someone or in how they express themselves. Lav can be capable of having in-depth interesting discussion, as seen in her now deleted conversation with Counterpoints. She isn’t a retarded bimbo slut.

[@WillyOrca]

I genuinely don't think a lot of people understand why bringing up his past is relevant and are under the impression it's being used to justify killing him. fe: "He deserved what happened because of his past.". That's what's so disgusting about what Sam does. He knows why people are bringing up the criminal history, and why it's relevant in determining the likelihood Jordan Neely needed to be restrained. He's just preying on those who don't by reaffirming their current flawed understanding instead of explaining to them why it IS in fact relevant.

[@zer0nix]

That's a lot of words you used in lieu of explaining yourself. If it's so easy, why don"t you explain, unless you're afraid your reasoning won't stand to scrutiny?

[@WillyOrca]

@@zer0nix what?

[@chrislastname1994]

None of what you said matters though dude. In the moment these people did not have the information of his history to judge his threat level. It is being added in after the fact to justify it. Unless you have the knowledge in the moment it can't be used in your assessment of a situation.

[@Dsworddance22]

Sam is right though. Bringing up Neely's criminal record is not relevant to the situation because no one on the subway knew he was arrested 40+ times - everyone on the subway only knew he was having a mental breakdown. The Marine restrained Neely because of his behavior, not because the Marine knew he had a long criminal record. Plus, many people bring up Neely's criminal record in an attempt to downplay the situation and insinuate the death was warranted to a degree. Why else would people cover Neely's criminal record in detail if not to imply "well, even if the death was wrong then nothing of value was lost anyways".

[@WillyOrca]

@@zer0nix I hope you're not asking why it's relevant, or implying that I'm incapable of explaining why it is lol. Because I already did. In a single sentence. It is relevant for determining the LIKELIHOOD that Jordan Neely was behaving in a manner that may have warranted being restrained. If you need me to further elaborate; Someone with no history of violence would be considered less likely to engage in violent behavior, and therefore people would (rightfully) be more skeptical about any claims they were engaged in violent behavior.

[@joeymac4302]

Destiny bends over backward to defer judgement on Steven Crowder, because we might not know EVERYTHING about the context, but objects to the phrasing "lethal chokehold" when Sam uses it to describe a chokehold that resulted in death... I don't know if I can square this as anything other than absolute contrarianism. It's not a great look for a guy who purports toward logic and rational thought, mostly because he doesn't like Sam Seder's habit of guzzling buckets of... stuff.

[@TecTitan]

Cases with lots of eyes on them probably don't get treated the same as they would without it. Whether that means they're getting fairer with more attention or less, it's something I'm worried about.

[@jarad9946]

As a homeless person with a job, responsibilities, a social life and pays my bills. This is not a homeless issue, it's a dug addiction issue.

[@jaer.6540]

This, but also a mental illness issue. They often are a ven diagram, but not always

[@elenhin]

Was just going to pipe in with this. I'm not scared of homeless people at all, but I'm pretty vigilant around drugged up people. Homeless or not.

[@joshuawinstead7621]

@@jaer.6540 I don't know if you know this, but a significant amount of mental illness is downstream of drugs. Pretty much all of the big ones during long term abuse can cause you to develop schizophrenia or psychosis.

[@jaer.6540]

@@joshuawinstead7621 i dont doubt it, but i would need a source on "significant".

[@gatrow581]

Umm what bills do you pay a homeless person? What social life do you have as a homeless person? What responsibilities do you have? You don’t pay rent, electricity, water, you can’t take a shower, you don’t have your own bathroom, you can’t do your own laundry, you can’t have friends over, you don’t have bed, tv, oven, microwave. Stop acting like you’re doing good for yourself, you’re homeless. 😂 Stop acting like you have a normal life and homelessness doesn’t affect it.

[@richboii6597]

People just want to live their life without being randomly assaulted for no reason while they’re minding their own business . Period. If you start shit with people then you’re essentially forfeiting your right to safety. Proceed at your own risk

[@IRepko]

I love how Jideon pops onto stream it’s such a worlds collide moment everytime it happens

[@captcal]

I don’t 😂 dude sniffed way too much glue as a kid

[@Khymeira]

I thought it was really cute with his little photoshoot lmaoo

[@xFabi99]

Destiny should start using a dark mode extension on Google Chrome. I am tired of being blinded.

[@badicusvibesimus182]

I don't even need to see Seder's coverage of the Rittenhouse shit to know how he reacted.

[@Sanosukeafo]

Ya most people are probably in the camp of "don't choke people non-stop for minutes straight because they raised their voice in public" Sam's take is the normal person take. Touch some grass.

[@badicusvibesimus182]

@@Sanosukeafo I was referring to Seder trying to pull the "what if this was my epileptic daughter" bullshit. It was obviously manslaughter at the very least and fucked up that the guy died. Maybe you're the one who needs to touch some grass if you're so internet brained that you automatically assume I think the guy reacted appropriately. But was I wrong? Or was Seder another one of the people who immediately condemned Kyle because "he shouldn't have been there" without acknowledging that he was being chased down and assaulted?

[@shinka6670]

A choke hold is one of the safest options to control someone for all parties. Having said that it takes like 20 seconds to make them unconscious if applied properly.

[@bradmiles1984]

If applied correctly it can take even less then 20 seconds but you are right if the person is trained there is little danger, much less than beating someone unconscious or using a tazer.

[@hunnidracksnick528]

If we had a real life Batman we would have a story like this weekly which is kind of cool to think about

[@againsttherest1]

NYC quite literally turning into Gotham City, and theyre flabergasted why vigilantism is starting to pop up. They are so far separated from reality and what modern civilized society is suppose to be. Normal people dont want vigilantism, but when enough things in society start to break down, its going to happen almost as a human response measure.

[@Lupostehgreat]

So, just like The Right keeps forgetting why Nazism is bad, or why overt nationalism is bad, or why all these laws protecting marginalized groups exist, The Left seems to have failed to recognize why forcing The Homeless off public streets is a thing. While the final video seems to have portrayed a very rare situation where the dude is more of a street hermit than a true homeless person (he kinda could go wherever he needed to go to get help, but it seems almost like he enjoys living on a public street), most homeless people are either drug addicts, alcoholics, or deeply mentally disturbed people who refuse to get help because it makes them feel bad. We are seemingly returning to the 1970's where people were appalled at the quality of public services and rather than fixing them, they do the classic American response of flying to the opposite extreme end. Now we are allowing homeless to fill the streets because there is 0 disincentive to just live there. Things will wrap back around. Dipshit right wing states will be horrified after they watch some new reports of kids being turned to fucking slurry in a slaughterhouse by accident, and a trans person will get sexually harassed by a homeless person living on the corner of a 7/11 or something, and things will go back to normal. I think everyone needs to remember that sometimes the other side has a point.

[@makerstudios5456]

In the video he very clearly wasn’t being choked for 15 minutes. It’s not sunk for the majority of the time. He’s using it as a restraint until the end.

[@angprt2]

I'm loving the intro music.

[@angelabergstrom553]

Same I want to know who it is!

[@Syberz2]

How the fuck Destiny gonna call someone else complaining about homeless people cringe? Just last week he was bitching about walking around in any major city because homeless people yell, but he's never been touched or accosted by a homeless person.

[@WillyOrca]

@ anyone who thinks Jordan Neely's criminal record is irrelevant to the case, If a child was alleging attempted abuse, do you think it's relevant if the person they're accusing has a criminal history of serially abusing children? And would the child's claims somehow hold less weight simply because they weren't privy to their alleged abuser's criminal history? This is an apples to apples comparison and you sound insane when you try to say his past isn't relevant simply because the passengers weren't privy to it.

[@samuelmerkel2888]

It would hold weight if you were prosecuting Neely for the crime, but it doesn't really have any bearing on what actually transpired in the moment unless they knew.

[@WillyOrca]

@@samuelmerkel2888 no, it does hold weight because if Neely were alive to defend himself, he'd likely be the only person facing charges. It's important to establish that he had in fact acted in a manner that may have warranted being restrained. If it is deemed justifiable for Daniel Penny to have restrained Jordan Neely, then any charge beyond involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide is automatically inapplicable due to Daniel Neely's lack of intent to kill and not being in commission of a separate crime when Jordan Neely sustained the injuries that he would later succumb to. It's extremely important for determining whether Daniel Penny deserves a 25 year Prison sentence or a year in jail with community service.

[@WillyOrca]

@@samuelmerkel2888 also, how do you know what happened? You're going off the witness reports that left-leaning news outlets have parroted. You're acting as though it has already been established that Jordan Neely wasn't acting erratically enough to warrant being restrained for the safety of the other commuters. Daniel Penny and several other witnesses would disagree. This is why Jordan Neely's past is relevant. If we see that he has a history of acting in such a manner, we can lend credibility to what the witnesses on the scene reported.

[@GunBreaux]

I'd love to see professional armchair quarterbacks from the Majority Report be placed in some simulations to see if they react appropriately to tense situations. Edit: To be fair, yeah Emma said she's been hit by a homeless man before and didn't want him dead. Leaves her at risk and doesn't resolve the situation, but if she's willing ti be a victim then at least she's consistent.

[@gemkid85]

To be fair, Emma says at one point that she was hit by a homeless man on the train before... Turns out she didn't proceed to choke him to death. I dunno of that counts for anything.

[@jordanwhite8718]

Honestly, the fact that they’ve normalized being threatened on the subway so much kind of makes me feel sad for them.

[@Earthad23]

@@gemkid85 You can’t threaten people, it makes them feel threatened

[@quillclock]

@@yajy4501 getting smacked by someone flailing once while you were asleep or "not paying attention" like she said. is not the same as someone announcing "I need food and water, I don't care how, I'm not afraid to die". every person and situation is always going to be an individual case. she was not threatened she was hit by accident. Destiny has a fair point tho saying "is that how she saw crazy ppl on the subway, as undesirables who get in your way of going to the theater?" Like far left ppl who come from rich family always seem like they are trying to atone for their past for some reason. idk just my opinion

[@TonyCox1351]

Now we got people in the comments arguing that even a homeless person physically strikes a woman, it’s not ok to restrain them with a choke hold

[@gtkng89]

Im glad the cyberpunk elephant noises are getting louder in the intro lol

[@shadow12k]

Listening to a destiny talk about what happens in a physical altercation is so painful. He’s confined in his knowledge of gore videos on the internet. It blows my mind sometimes

[@hazzardalsohazzard2624]

At least he's not acting like an expert, which is more than we can say for a lot of commentators.

[@shadow12k]

@@hazzardalsohazzard2624 he literally is. What?

[@silenceyouidiot]

@@shadow12k Saying, "I don't think Sam is using the right words, intended to murder and initiated with intent through a deadly chokehold" is the word of an expert? 99 comments just on this channel, how does it blow your mind btw?

[@roymarshall_]

Let me guess, you're one of those "fistfights aren't actually dangerous or potentially lethal" people who base your entire concept of fighting off action movies

[@shadow12k]

@@roymarshall_ who is this even addressed to? Are you a bot.

[@LunarLocust]

All I'm saying is, if you want to mug emma on the subway, she wont press charges

[@neildepressedtyson540]

Destiny: she's not SMART!!! Rollo: He's NOT HIGH VALUE!!!! Basically when Destiny calls somebody stupid, he's saying he disagrees with them and can't be bothered explaining why but just trust me bro they're stupid and you should avoid them.

[@destinysgrandchild40]

I think this all comes in context, especially the way progressives are talking about it. We would prefer to just try and address mental health and homelessness concerns in metro areas, so this won't happen. But conservatives don't see these things as a priority as much. So if you don't want to do something about homelessness/increase mental health services in a meaningful way. Then yeah, that means there will be homeless people who yell and scream sometimes. Like you cant not want to do anything about the problem but then be super precious about the result.

[@logicalpancake9535]

obamna

[@Jjjof]

SODA!!

[@IXxMYTHICGAMINGxXI]

the martial arts experts of the majority report

[@Andwhatson420]

The problem destiny has sometimes when it’s a topic he wants to argue it’s nuanced and different shades of gray but a topic he disagrees with that someone else mentioned it’s black and white

[@giovalladares1022]

Which is it that you think he’s being rn? Nuanced or black n white? I don’t necessarily disagree.

[@Andwhatson420]

@@giovalladares1022when they are talking about the chockhold. Yes a chockhold is deadly because you are depriving the brain and heart of oxygen. Watch are two most important organs humans have. (After a day I’ve just noticed I read your question wrong I believe he is playing the black and white/ different shades of grey)

[@Greg-cr2dw]

32:45 Khaleesi white savior moment

[@theluchakabuto5206]

I actually had no idea assault in legal terms just means causing someone fear/ immediate harm. So that's the difference between assault and battery

[@andrewgrime8389]

He should just really stick to high school drama if this is the kind of "political" content he wants to make. 😂

[@Beezer1742]

Destiny is Alt-Right now. Glad to have you man, bi as you are.

[@0498kizerb]

Repost of my comment from another vid: I truly think Destiny is letting his bias against lefties blind himself to what Emma was really saying. If you pay attention to her words and watch the longer clip, you understand exactly what she was saying. Not that homeless people are justified in assaulting people, not that peoples’ fear isn’t real or not justified, but their fear shouldn’t be used as a justification for the killing of homeless people or overreaching policies that can be passed that violently subdue all homeless people, not just the violent ones. I’ve had some instances where I was ready to defend myself, but most of the time homeless people leave you alone.

[@sepro5135]

Can someone fill me in on how this banger of an intro song is called?

[@deanlute794]

I thought he threatened passengers? Googled it and seems to be the case. We have courts to handle this. Not for me to decide without all the information.

[@WarsWorth]

He doesn't get a court date though because he was executed on the spot.

[@chrislastname1994]

Except at this point it is a societal issue that people are being forced to deal with in real time. It's a cop out to say we should just ignore it and let the court decide. The court is gonna decide in this isolated incident but the issue is still going to exist.

[@PatheticApathetic]

So what? Choking someone out until they die isn’t an appropriate response to that

[@Kev7035]

​@@PatheticApathetic it 100% is, and it should be what happens

[@WarsWorth]

@@Kev7035 that's just pro-murder

[@byrondejong9872]

I find it interesting how people don't seem to understand how most homeless people want to stay homeless because it's their life and it's insanely hard to rebuild it. People are stubborn and spiteful, they don't want to improve because it invalidates the hardships they went through. People are creatures of habit that can get use to any living condition and will prefer what they are use to and can control over what others would see as an upgrade. Rebuilding your life after hitting rock bottom is hard even for the uber rich or people with huge support groups in there lives.

[@JoePedo]

Well said

[@Lupostehgreat]

Yeah, but in what way is this related to the rest of stuff that is said? That's like me asking you if you want crab or chicken with your rice and you begin telling me that "crabs really have it bad, that's why they have to have so many kids because everything wants to eat them." I can't really tell if you want to have crab because everyone does, or you want to avoid crab because you feel sorry for them. If someone is threatening people on a public train, is it suddenly okay because they are homeless? Are city streets a okay when they are filled with homeless people refusing to go to shelters and instead stay right where they are? Even if some of these people are violent? This is kinda what's happening to some of these hardcore liberal cities, and it seems no better to me than the hardcore conservative states that are bringing back child labor and allowing immigrant kids to be put to work cleaning slaughterhouse equipment.

[@byrondejong9872]

@@Lupostehgreat ​ @Lupostehgreat The guy who came on and spoke with Destiny seemed like he didn't understand why someone would be homeless and not want help. I feel like a lot of people have problems understanding that though I think everyone has had self destructive moments in their lives because of pride or many other reasons. I just want people to understand that they themselves could become homeless and not just think of them as mentally ill drug addicts. I didn't give a take because I don't care if people see homeless as victims or losers as long as they understand what is actually going on.

[@sjewitt22]

Interesting how right wing Destiny's Audience is becoming.

[@cineris2389]

I mean a chokehold by it's very nature is lethal. Not to say I'd use it for emphasis virtuously. as Seder did. Yet he's not incorrect, a choke is essentially suffocative in nature. Not much different than accidently on purpose smothering someone with a pillow.

[@Decrystallizing]

From what I understand, if you have the proper training you can pretty much do a chokehold where the person survives in almost every circumstance. But you need to have the training to do that. And him being a marine actually puts a higher burden of responsibility on him imo since it’s likely he has been trained extensively in hand-to-hand combat (and de-escalation techniques, for that matter).

[@cineris2389]

@@Decrystallizing This is true, my friend's dad was SF, and he used to sneak up on us and essentially paralyze us for a split second with a certain "choke". You never passed out, you just lost all motor function. that didn't apply pressure in the same way, it seemed. It wasn't even painful unless he didn't catch you and you landed on your knees. LOL The mid 90's were different.

[@DieNibelungenliad]

I dont know which is more lethal but Im certain a punch is also lethal especially a sucker punch that KOs someone

[@cineris2389]

@@DieNibelungenliad The after effects of a punch are the most lethal part in most cases (falling hitting your head), unless it's Mike tyson OFC. A choke if not released will kill you every time.

[@speardjinn5085]

That’s not true. The choke hold that was used is a “blood choke” it impedes blood flow which causes the person to go unconscious.

[@Riku_Shin]

Lol Destiny's villain voice is great

[@ShinAkuma204]

Emma who has never been in a single physical altercation in here life - There were other options to subdue him.

[@Xenomorph6793]

Just remember this, destiny is setting up all the foundation he needs to ad hom Emma from now on. Her opinion on transit? Invalid; how could she have an opinion on transit, she went to that rich gradeschool. Don't be lazy destiny, engage. 27:13

[@Sacredsnow2]

The reporter that doesnt know that a generator runs on gas made me chuckle

[@ihswap]

Choking litterally means to restrict someone's breathing. It doesn't take a genius to understand that not breathing can cause swift damage and death.

[@Lewa500]

Choking does restrict breathing, but a *chokehold* does not necessarily have to be so tight that it does that. You can have someone in a chokehold -- your arm locked around their neck -- that's loose enough for them to not choke.

[@zer0nix]

It means interrupting the oxygen supply. This was a blood choke, which restricts oxygen to the brain rather than breathing.

[@TonyCox1351]

“Choke hold” is colloquially used to describe a hold around the neck, but doesn’t necessitate choking off their breathing. He could have loosened his grip a bit, the guy would have lived, and onlookers would still describe what they say as a “choke hold”

[@johnathanversteeg3666]

I want to make this clear, there are 2 types of chokes, air and blood. Air chokes involve some form of airway blockage, take longer to put someone out and aren't really taught. Blood chokes like a basic rear naked choke restrict blood flow to the brain which causes unconsciousness far quicker. It wasn't an air choke it was a blood choke.

[@wileyreid5420]

​@@Lewa500 THIS particular hold is suppose to be used for an incredibly short period of time and with him being trained knows this.

[@newsdan8193]

This is why she and Sam got absolutely roasted on Pool's show 😂