This is a a test that reflects the actual force applied to the arrow so its alot better than the traditional spine tester. Promote this concept!
@stormchildkennelsjasontrac6749Ай бұрын
I watched the video, went and bought a clamp, and I'm amazed! All of my arrows are flying better than ever. And my funky fliers are fixed now. Great stuff! Thank you 👍👍
@mat_in_texasАй бұрын
@@stormchildkennelsjasontrac6749 I love hearing success stories!
@JerrBearTactical6 ай бұрын
After watching your 1st video, this has made a world of difference for me. Thanks for sharing, Brother 😜👍👊🇺🇸
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear! Thanks for coming back for this one!
@calebcrouch66526 ай бұрын
Effectively you are spine aligning the arrows. The plus is you are doing it without a 250-350 spine alignment tool. Great video!
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Bingo
@juliomc662 ай бұрын
Here's a tip to save paper lol Put dots across the paper (can number them if you want) move your sight to your 60yd mark,then when shooting through the paper aim at the dot,your arrow will go approximately 1" below the dot 😊 Get lots more tuning from each roll of paper 😉
@Aldocello13 ай бұрын
Perfect timing ... Ive been shooting Long range/PRS and have been reloading for quite a few years and anyone that does the same knows the enjoyment of getting the best out of your loads/rifle . Just got back into my archery and knowing the importance a precision load for my rifles ,and how OCD it can be loading , lol , I want to do the same for my bows ( Mathews ) with the arrows , so this time around want to do as much as possible , been looking at the spine testers and came across your vids this morning and its a no brainer , simple , affordable and shows what the arrows will do with the force produced by a bow , not some random spinning on a tool with a weight . Just ordered my clamps will be here tomorrow , looking forward to giving this a try ...
@mat_in_texas3 ай бұрын
Good luck my friend. Archery can be a deep rabbit hole, but sounds like you already know that
@BudBanksOutdoors6 ай бұрын
I watched your earlier bend video and tried it. It does work and from now on I will tune this way. Thanks
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@flyfin1085 ай бұрын
arrows bend 90 degrees away from stiffest point of the shaft when hit into rear, there is no reason what so ever to find weakest point with bend testing, this guy is either utterly mislead or dosnt know better, likely both
@geraldperez64626 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. This has saved me and my cousin lots of time. We tried paper tuning/nock tuning… our form broke down before we could really get anything accomplished. With this method, we were able to shoot bullet holes, and if not, it’s because the bow was out of spec/tune, or it was out form. But this has definitely simplified our process. Now I can work form in the garage, knowing that if I shoot bullet holes, my form is good. And if I tear, then that’s me. Thanks again!🙌🏼 🏹 🎯
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
That’s great to hear! This method of tuning has absolutely improved my archery experience
@michaelschnitzer40544 ай бұрын
Well I used this method and it seems to work. The arrows are for my wife’s bow and she’s currently rehabbing an injury so we haven’t tried them out yet.
@jthepickle76 ай бұрын
My new trick - for adjusting center shot: Assuming the pulleys are square to the bow, with spring clamp, clamp a shaft to the flat side of the upper pulley/cam, nock an arrow and place on rest. If the rest is centered the shaft and the nocked arrow should be parallel. Repeat with shaft on the lower pulley. To see how the arrow exists my blade rest I'll spray some foot powder - from spray can - on the aft portion of a bare shaft. (if the arrow rides up and to the side of the blade on exit, the arrow will paper tune nock high - when the real problem is an uncentered rest)
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Oooh, might have to give this a try
@killemquietly27055 ай бұрын
Makes perfect sense, good cheap and uses something I already have …perfect and thanks for posting
@typhoon28276 ай бұрын
Excellent video, Mat, thanks. Subbed. Just a little point to reinforce what you said at the beginning; you only get out of tuning what you can realistically shoot. A very minor change to your form would help you get even more out of your tuning. I'm sure you already know but you need to finish off your shot. Think of the click of the release aid as the start of the shot, not the end of the shot. Think "click and finish, click and finish". There's still stuff to do after the release aid has done its job. If you don't do it, your subconscious starts to do stuff that's sub-optimal. Keep that direction in your front arm, shoulder low, etc. The danger of shooting paper is that we become outcome-focussed; we're looking for the hole/tear, and thats's not where our mental focus should be; it should be on making the shot. It'll change your tune for sure but long term benefits are worth the short term hassel of retuning. Hope that helps and that I'm not teaching my granny to suck eggs.
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@cr500mike25 күн бұрын
Liked/Subscribed - I like your common sense methods of tuning. Every bow & arrow combo has to be worked with in order to get ""it"" to shoot great. The way you're getting there appears to work- and that's what matters. I have friends who think they can go buy a $2,000.oo set-up and wala- they've got a top-flight bow that's more accurate than other folks 5 year old bow.
@mat_in_texas25 күн бұрын
Thanks for the follow. Spending money doesn’t always solve the problem. Gotta put in a little effort.
@user-ct4im4nd6r6 ай бұрын
This is interesting I’ve never thought of anything like this before I’m going to have to set me up a shop now so I can play around with stuff like this
@jblaze1146 ай бұрын
I got the clamp at Harbor Freight and have done this to my last couple dozen arrows and it does make them a lot more consistent. I even did it on some cheap Amazon arrows 300 spine and they shoot great
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
One of the biggest things I’ve noticed, is, I don’t have flyers. Previously, it seemed like in any dozen arrows, there was always one or two that would never fly with the group, after doing this, I haven’t had that issue. Even with my cheap arrows.
@jblaze1146 ай бұрын
@@mat_in_texas exactly that, any flyer I know is my fault
@derekmurray24165 ай бұрын
What clamp are you using please just here in the UK it looks like a sash joinery clamp
@mat_in_texas5 ай бұрын
@@derekmurray2416 ya, it’s just a wood clamp
@swordinstone2k76 ай бұрын
awesome, gonna use this for sure, I nock tune my hunting arrows and this looks a lot quicker and has less variables. If you have a local shop that will let you spin test arrows before you buy, you can get match grade quality arrows for less money by picking out the ones that spin true. You can generally hear the difference when one is spinning clean vs wobbling.
@gsnicholas85226 ай бұрын
I've been using a method similar to this for a while now. I was curious if it really made a big difference so I did the same test you did, except I used a hooter shooter to remove my human error from the test. Your results didn't surprise me at all, since mine were very similar.
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
That’s awesome, you should make a video too. I don’t have access to a hooter shooter or I would 100% use it.
@keithtompkins10885 күн бұрын
I just seen this and tried. I made a tester w a clamp and used victory rip TKO pro, they are spine marked and every one bent exactly at their mark even after cutting them down.
@mat_in_texas5 күн бұрын
@@keithtompkins1088 that’s cool to hear, my buddies that shoot victory arrows say they usually find a few that don’t match out of each dozen.
@keithtompkins10885 күн бұрын
@@mat_in_texas even like you said. If 1 is wrong out of every dozen it's still profe enough that it works.
@dirtjunkie27496 ай бұрын
A tip I learned for consistent grip pressure, is to look at the top cam at full draw. If you have good grip pressure the string will be coming straight out of the string track.
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
😮😮😮 gonna start paying attention to that. Is that why Chris’s Bee always looks up at his cam when he’s shooting?
@dirtjunkie27496 ай бұрын
@@mat_in_texas I believe so.
@sportbikeguy98756 ай бұрын
If you have a bow press, dont go buy a clamp! You can use the press in the same way. It works great, i just did a batch the other day. I take a center punch and punched spots for the field points in the press
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Yup, a bow press would work just fine! (I need a bow press)
@WolfinWolvesClothing7136 ай бұрын
That's what I was gonna say. Started doing this after I watched his last vid, but I just use my press. I've found that all of my elite victory shafts actually flex almost perfectly in line with their spine marks.
@tedgifford16274 ай бұрын
Agreed, I use my lca deluxe vertically to do an initial test before the arrow goes to the spine tester for fine tuning.
@Silbar896 ай бұрын
Great video Mat. Keep it up!
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I’ve got a few more lined up
@slvice1425 күн бұрын
I just bought a clamp for this. I'm gonna give it a try. I have a fat stack of bare shafts to fletch. So I'll do this first and shoot em through paper. Thanks for posting this.
@mat_in_texas24 күн бұрын
@@slvice14 I hope it work well for you. It saves me a ton of time!
@williamchester50015 ай бұрын
Ok, I bought A new bar clamp so I am planning on testing the bend test again.
@mat_in_texas5 ай бұрын
Good luck!
@mrwoodwooker28106 ай бұрын
Personally I think you are learning a great deal while going down this path. I don’t actually believe you are becoming a better archer because of this specific process. I believe you are becoming a better archer by the type of repetitions you take when testing the process. It really forces you to find ways to actually measure any and all changes you make. This will inevitably result in finding out what you thought you knew is not the reality of what is actually happening. Try explaining how you got a bullet hole with the flex of the shaft oriented on the vertical plane then rotate the shaft 270 degrees, making the arrow now flex on the horizontal plane, and get the same bullet hole?
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
The same way you get bullet holes when you’re doing a traditional nock tune. Some arrows will shoot bullet holes in multiple positions. This method correctly identified one of those positions and it proved it could shoot bullet hole repeatedly in that position.
@bartlawhorn27626 ай бұрын
Just make sure your shaft ends are square. If your cutoff saw cut at a slight angle it will effect the flex
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Squaring tools are a must!
@flyfin1085 ай бұрын
@@mat_in_texas its impossible to square an arrow perfectly, hence this method is flawed (not to mention the fact that you cant find spine with this)
@mat_in_texas5 ай бұрын
@@flyfin108 why is it impossible to square an arrow?
@flyfin1085 ай бұрын
@@mat_in_texas why does apple fall of the tree
@flyfin1085 ай бұрын
@@mat_in_texas if you have gauge to measure straighness of squaring, you will find that its impossible to make it perfect. its simple as that, you cant just make it, what you do here is just not worth anyones time and you spread false info on top of preventing people for not learning proper way for locating spine, tube will allways bend 90 degrees away from spine when hit into rear, but not when you put it on pressure like on clamp, you find weakest spot on arrow, and spine can locate any where from weakest spot
@torreyintahoe3 ай бұрын
Even if you know where the spine is you still should nock test. The best orientation doesn't always aline perfectly with the spine.
@mat_in_texas3 ай бұрын
I agree with you to an extent. I’ve tested this numerous times, and it’s pretty dang consistent. The idea with this is to find a more efficient quicker method to get your stuff shooting better without having to go through the grueling task of Nock tuning. If you just do the Bend test, mark them and fetch them and go shoot them, You might find one arrow that doesn’t fly with the group, and then you can play with that one. But I don’t think it’s worth shooting all of them through paper numerous times.
@BergyBowsmith6 ай бұрын
static spine is pretty useless to test imo, because not every bow wants to shoot the arrow on the same spine lication for proper flight. Set bow to spec and dead center shoot arrow . Rotate nock and shoot multiple times to see if you can get a bullet hole if you cant then you shim . To the best tear . And repeat the nock tuning process . Once you get a bullet with the bare shaft then back up to 10 yards and micro tune the flight with yoke tuning or whatever other tuning methods you have available on the bow but leave rest in center its okay to move it a few clicks if needed but should still stay in center shot. Once you get bullets. Mark the shaft where you get best flight grab the rest of your arrows and shoot at 10 yards rotate nock till bullet and mark , repeat for the rest and then fletch accordingly.
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
I agree that the process you described is overall probably the best way to do it. But it requires A LOT of time and requires you to shoot a lot of “perfect” shots. Unfortunately, I think for average archers, such as myself, the process becomes more aggravating than it is beneficial. This test, although maybe not as exact as nock tuning, it is much more efficient and allows us average guys to get just a little bit better than what we would just fling them out there.
@BergyBowsmith6 ай бұрын
@mat_in_texas yes and no . Static spine and dynamic spine are two different things . When a arrow is launched from a bow you are forcing it to flex in a way that it is not meant to flex the front and back of the arrow are never both flexing upward or downward at the same time its actually opposite like this ~ in the air . So finding static spine is cool but it's not going to give a standardized result shaft to shaft in flight. And if you just so happen to tune the bow to the arrow with the most variance and the other arrows are tight, you’ll get those results Not to mention you’re applying forces to that arrow that are not natural. You’re forcing it into an unnatural bend. It will give you false results with this method.
@jmcb52155 ай бұрын
@BergyBowsmith the tendency of the arrow is still going to collapse to the weak side of the spine at shot. Unless you have horrible nock travel this is going to be the case
@BergyBowsmith5 ай бұрын
@jmcb5215 that's not true because arrows flex in 2 parts not all in one direction.
@michaelschnitzer40546 ай бұрын
Gonna use this when making my next set of arrows.
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
You won’t be disappointed
@vtcrafter6626Ай бұрын
When you shoot the arrow in your bow it’s horizontal not vertical. I see how gravity could come I to play but it also will do the same when you’re shooting out your bow. Cheers great conversation
@mat_in_texasАй бұрын
Doing it vertically seems to allow me to find the absolute weakest point without any other forces being applied, then when I orient it correctly in the bow, it’s always going to bend the same way.
@kodiakfisher9 күн бұрын
I wonder if you are better off testing in the horizontal plane and allowing gravity to have an effect as this effect is also present when shooting. The arrow is now being tested in a vertical plane that is different than when the arrow is actually being shot.
@markkobza81296 ай бұрын
I think youll like the heat vanes, i have them on my vaps, rip tkos, and x 27 4 fletch. The rips have a 3deg helical and steer my broadheads great, just simple 3blade g5 montecs, and they are quiet.
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Got ‘em glued on and putting them to work. Seem to be doing just fine.
@hutchieboy2426 ай бұрын
Your grip pressure comments is very important
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
I learned that the hard way…
@timbow506 ай бұрын
Nope, it’s not rocket science BUT BUT BUT it apparently works well enough to help get some consistency in arrow flight. One thing for sure “ it ain’t hurting anything “ to try this. 👍👍
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
In fact, I challenge those who have gone through the traditional nock tune process to now do this and see what you find. My experience was I found all my nock tuned arrows flexed in a similar orientation in relation to the bend.
@pickin4you6 ай бұрын
Now, the new arrow brand Altra, makes an arrow with no spine. I am a GT guy also, but if I had k no or already bought some new GT shafts, I would be buying Altra shafts. Same price but looks to be a better arrow. All the top shooters at Vegas and the Lancaster Classic all shoot Altra’s now.
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I’m hoping to get a chance to try some of those out someday. If they really are what they advertise, it sets a whole new precedent on manufacturing carbon arrows.
@greenem23Ай бұрын
any advice on bend testing easton axis 5mm shafts? struggling to figure it out, thinking maybe i'll get half outs and just not glue them in, but just slide in and put a field point in and boom, but curious your thoughts or if you've ever done this with glue-in setups? thanks
@mat_in_texasАй бұрын
@@greenem23 never have, I’d love to hear how you make it happen.
@Pypamid6 ай бұрын
I'm just guessing of course, but I highly doubt gravity has anything to do with it. The force required to bend the arrows pushing from the ends far exceeds the gravitational pull on a 300 grain arrow or so
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
That was my initial thought, but it seemed to make a difference on the more finicky arrows
@davidgriffin59356 ай бұрын
what about the consideration that horizontal is the arrows purpose to testing should be done in that orientation? when you do shoot them for their purpose they will be horizontal
@learningtocrash40306 ай бұрын
It may make the points sit off center in the holes in the clamp and make it bend down, but the weight effect on bending is the same no matter the orientation.
@WolfinWolvesClothing7136 ай бұрын
@davidgriffin5935 good point, you don't shoot your bow straight down at the ground.
@philiptweet59706 ай бұрын
Only a few thousands off center on your points and you will create a false center. A true test would need to be a string on the nock and a precision insert (no play) and micro ball socket. It works, thankfully I’ve got a cnc shop at my disposal.
@dwightbrown28084 күн бұрын
How does this act with expensive target arrows like Easton X10 parallel pro or SuperDrive? Usually you can get all kinds of arrows to tune in a compound with a release. People shoot hugely over spined arrows for indoor. I used to shoot 29” 2413 aluminum arrows with a really mild fifty pound round wheel compound. They would make perfect bullet holes through paper and 300 53X on the NFAA 5 spot. Seems like good arrows should bend equally well in all directions. I always have shot Easton arrows and have never had much desire to use anything else. I’m not good enough to need x10s anymore but you won’t see much else in the Olympics or World archery.
@mat_in_texas4 күн бұрын
@@dwightbrown2808 Honestly, I haven’t tried this on any fat shafts. I’m planning on buying a set for my Elite this fall. When I do, there will definitely be a follow up video
@dwightbrown28084 күн бұрын
@@mat_in_texas I notice that Easton never makes any mention of any of this. I realize that I’m a hopeless Easton fan boy but at the highest levels of archery where price is no object you won’t find much else. At the Olympics every medal for years and years has been won with Easton X10 arrows and ACE shafts before that and the original aluminum carbon shafts before that. If a shaft has a spine point marked on it that means the company cannot make a shaft that is concentric and even all the way around. I’m not suggesting we all go out and spend $450 on a dozen arrow shafts but your time and sanity is worth something! I’m working with SuperDrive Micros for outdoor shafts right now and I’ll probably use them indoors as well because I’m old and I only have one bow and I don’t care about line cutters. I’m only shooting for myself and because it makes me happy.
@robertbennett64626 ай бұрын
Use your bow press instead of pipe clamps. Works great.
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Yes, use your press if you have one. Haven’t been able to add that to the workshop yet.
@learningtocrash40306 ай бұрын
So have them bend the scary way? I've never had an arrow break in the bow, but it's always a risk. I think I'll try this but have them bend up and to the left (opposite of the normal archer's paradox) maybe to the 10 -11 o'clock position for maximum clearance. If the point is following the same path (bend of the arrow), then the positioning shouldn't matter as long as it's the same for the set of arrows.
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
In theory, you can orient them any direction you like. As long as they’re all doing the same thing, they should tune the same. The reason I choose to align them bending down, it allows me to play with point weight and draw weight without having to re-tune the left and right to get it to shoot clean.
@6saturdaysaweek6 ай бұрын
Damn, now I have to go to harbor freight again
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Glad I gave you a reason 😂
@XXXston3wallXXX6 ай бұрын
Thank you
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
You're welcome
@philipfairweather34936 күн бұрын
The slop in the pipe clamp screw is so sloppy,I don't see how you can get an accurate hypothsis.you need to try that idea on a precision metal lathe.
@mat_in_texas6 күн бұрын
@@philipfairweather3493 well, I’m not slamming it together. I take all the slack out before applying pressure to the shaft. Also, I check it in multiple orientations to verify it’s always bending the same direction. In my video “Proving the bend test” I do a full dozen of budget arrows and 11 of 12 shoot bullet holes. It’s quite effective.
@justinferguson54516 ай бұрын
Maybe something you can try if you got the time to do so. I saw a video someone pulled the nock out of an arrow and shined a flashlight at approximately 45 degree angle and rotated the arrow and the seam where the arrow is joined will show a reflective and a dull non reflective area Identifying the spine. Maybe you can test that along side your method and see how close the results are
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
I’ll take a look
@MyFriendsAreElectric6 ай бұрын
Have you filmed arrow clearance in the different spine alignments? I use a fixed blade launcher, so I don't know if flexing down would cause a whole load of extra pressure on the launcher, or if flexing up might cause nick clearance issues
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
I had someone comment that they orient theirs to flex up coming out of the bow because they shoot it off of a fixed launcher. I shoot off of a fall away, so I haven’t really considered clearance issues for my personal set up.
@user-qt6ob4yy6c3 ай бұрын
I can understand you wanting the flex being down for your compound arrows but how about for crossbow bolts? My little pea brain would most likely want my bend going up upwards because of the crossbow rail. Thoughts.
@mat_in_texas3 ай бұрын
I have zero experience with cross bows, but I would think you have the right idea.
@nedbugy2 ай бұрын
Hi, great video! But I have some questions: you did the test in vertical position to "eliminate" the gravity influence but, when we shoot, we shoot with the arrow in horizontal position and with gravity influence... Wouldn't the horizontal test be more near the shooting reality? And also, did you find some relevant vantage on the arrows tunned with vertical test in comparison to the ones you tunned with the clamp in horizontal?
@mat_in_texas2 ай бұрын
When trying to identify the weakest part of the spine, usually it’s not an issue, but on a few arrows, doing it horizontal versus vertically there is a difference. I found that doing it vertically allows me to identify that weak point more accurately so when I oriented it in my bow to shoot horizontally, it flies better and more consistently.
@nedbugyАй бұрын
@@mat_in_texas Makes sense... Thank you for the replay!
@kylemacdonell14506 ай бұрын
I have done this using my last chance archery press and have not seen the consistency I expected and I also did try this vertically.. Dunno..
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
What arrows are you currently shooting?
@kylemacdonell14506 ай бұрын
@@mat_in_texas RIP TKO in 250 spine
@gsnicholas85226 ай бұрын
@@kylemacdonell1450I did it on RIP TKO's in a 250 spine with great results.
@Bleach2634 ай бұрын
Great video! Why do you want the arrow to bend down and not up when released from the bow?
@mat_in_texas4 ай бұрын
You could orient it in either direction. I’ve shot it both ways and haven’t seen any real difference. Other guys that use this technique that shoot off of a blade rest have told me they like to have it bend up so it gives better clearance off of the blade.
@davidcampbell26616 ай бұрын
That is interesting. Anyone try this with a recurve or a long bow?
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Can anyone help David out? Anyone tried this on trad equipment?
@gsnicholas85226 ай бұрын
It works for trad bows too. Orient the weak side towards the bow and then go through the your normal tuning process.
@davidcampbell26616 ай бұрын
Thanks, will try that
@phantomcruizer6 ай бұрын
🤔 I don’t think this method would work with “Easton X10 Parallel Pro 4mm Shafts”…it might damage them! Other than that, very informative video. 👍 Thanks 😎
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Ya, this probably wouldn’t be good on an aluminum shaft.
@user-fb9ew6dq3q18 күн бұрын
Can I bend test a 20 inch cross bow bolt
@mat_in_texas17 күн бұрын
@@user-fb9ew6dq3q you could definitely try, being that short, you may not be able to get a consistent reading.
@LuizNunes743 ай бұрын
Hi Matt, thank you for this explanation. Do you do this with target arrows too? Also, which equipment would I need to do the same thing you are doing? I'm referring to the other test you do to cut the arrows. I know that for this I need the clamp for this one, but to cut the arrows what should I get, and do you know of an inexpensive option? Thank you.
@mat_in_texas3 ай бұрын
I recently bought a MODSAW. It’s about the best bang for your buck out there. I just posted a couple videos about them too
@mat_in_texas3 ай бұрын
I haven’t ever had any actual target arrows. I’m getting ready to buy a set for my elite and I plan on going through all this to see if it’s effective on fat shafts too.
@georgemyers65184 ай бұрын
Will this work if the arrows have a point insert glued into it ?
@mat_in_texas4 ай бұрын
Oh ya, just screw in a field point and you’re in business
@georgemyers65184 ай бұрын
@@mat_in_texas thank you.I subscribed
@mrwoodwooker28106 ай бұрын
So what is your explanation on how you got a bullet hole with the shaft oriented 90 degrees from your mark? Wouldn’t that mean the arrow is now flexing on the horizontal plane?
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
You could probably shoot it at either orientation and it would probably fly fine. Either way, it’s a bullet hole.
@driftlesshunter92006 ай бұрын
I like my Victory arrows that come spine aligned from the factory. It makes a difference, & I wouldn't buy or shoot anything else.
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
I want to try some Victory arrows. I’ve never shot them
@williamchester50015 ай бұрын
Tried this test but found my arrows bent the same direction every time. GT 300 spine XT Hunter.
@mat_in_texas5 ай бұрын
That’s what I shoot out of my hunting bow too. Great arrow. What are you using to press the arrows?
@williamchester50015 ай бұрын
In case it was not clear it did not matter on the arrow orientation, the arrows always bent away from the bar clamp pipe.
@williamchester50015 ай бұрын
@@mat_in_texas Bar clamp
@williamchester50015 ай бұрын
@@mat_in_texas I drilled a small indent with a 1/8” bit, placed a field tip and insert in the nock end of the arrows and a field tip on the business end of the arrow. The arrows are fletch so it is very easy to determine orientation.
@williamchester50015 ай бұрын
@@mat_in_texas I also hung the bar clamp vertically.
@huntersarchery5 ай бұрын
I like the idea. But what if the ends of the arrow are not square? Would that affect the way it bends?
@mat_in_texas4 ай бұрын
Ya, gotta be square
@scottlindholm55686 ай бұрын
Just get a spine tester and rotate the shaft
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
$30 bar clamp is way cheaper
@Texaslivinoutdoors5 ай бұрын
Did you square the ends before doing this?
@mat_in_texas5 ай бұрын
Yes, 100% necessary.
@Texaslivinoutdoors5 ай бұрын
@@mat_in_texas lol ok I figured you did I was just checking
@DiabeticBowhunter6 ай бұрын
What did you do to make your pin holes?
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Small drill bit. Note: they need to be centered as best as possible
@byronjohnson48196 ай бұрын
Where can I get the bender you have?
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
It’s just a bar clamp that is used in carpentry. You can pick them up at just about any hardware store. It doesn’t have to be anything special, just something that will allow you to apply slow pressure to the arrow.
@byronjohnson48196 ай бұрын
@@mat_in_texas thanx a lot
@hojjatalishani65855 ай бұрын
nice
@SparkleDonkey6 ай бұрын
Okay, now THIS is useful info! I've always found nock tuning to be a bit of a guessing game, especially shooting trad where there are more "user variables". Is there a particular kind of bar clamp you use?
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
Mine is just a bar clamp from Home Depot. But any clamp that will allow you to put a slow controlled squeeze on the arrows should do the trick.
@SparkleDonkey6 ай бұрын
@@mat_in_texas Gotcha! Thanks. So, for kicks I did a "hand test" of 6 of my best, nock-tuned and fletched goldtip Pierce 400 spine arrows using a thimble over the nock and a field point stuck in some dense carpet and manually applied force downwards to attempt an arrow bend. I doubt they were all perfectly vertical at the start but pretty close. Anyway, they all bent about 90 deg outward from the nock alignment in the same direction! I tried to gently force them to bend in another direction to see if I was biasing the system but they all seemed to really want to bend in that one direction. These are my target arrows and they all shoot bullet holes. Anyway, this test is not nearly as scientific as your test but it could give a initial sense of where to start nock tuning in the absence of using equipment. I'm going to try it later on some brand new, bare shafted wooden arrows to see if it holds true as a quick test.
@flyfin1085 ай бұрын
so you have "little" BS marked on your arrow?
@mat_in_texas5 ай бұрын
To remind me it’s the designated Bare Shaft so I don’t fletch it
@flyfin1085 ай бұрын
@@mat_in_texas so you deleted my comments where i showd exactly why this entire process is absolute BS and waste of time
@mat_in_texas5 ай бұрын
@@flyfin108 Sorry buddy, but I didn’t delete anything and I don’t show any pending comments from you.
@ralphbennett66986 ай бұрын
A easy way of determining spine location is simply float your shaft in soapy water. It's 100% accurate and you don't have to do all this silly BS this hack is telling you.
@hutchieboy2426 ай бұрын
Does this apply to Barebow and Recurve?
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
I’m guessing you could apply the same principles and get similar results.
@hutchieboy2426 ай бұрын
Thank you for the reply, Matt.
@edcopeland93736 ай бұрын
Your just spine indexing its not rocket science its arrow science
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
😂 and momma said I’d never amount to anything and here I am being a scientist!
@bent13ways6 ай бұрын
Pure genius. Very clever sir. Sub incoming
@WolfinWolvesClothing7136 ай бұрын
Wow thanks, your genius remark helped a lot.
@kennylainhart71486 ай бұрын
Works very well!!!! Good video explained well!!
@mat_in_texas6 ай бұрын
@@kennylainhart7148 thanks
@DiabeticBowhunter5 ай бұрын
What kind of pipe did you use?
@mat_in_texas5 ай бұрын
This is the 48” one from Home Depot that was in the bin next to the clamps (the clamps are sold separately from the bar)