BendPak MD6XP | Scissor Lift Review

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Driving Forward Builds

Driving Forward Builds

Күн бұрын

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@truthboomertruthbomber5125
@truthboomertruthbomber5125 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a tip for everybody with a scissor lift. You can buy 5000 psi rated hydraulic quick disconnect fittings that have a 1/4” NPTF female thread. With the appropriate adapter fittings you can unbolt you pump hose from the lift and insert your new QD fittings and Shazam !! No more hose in the way. You can roll the pump cart over to a corner so it’s completely out of the way. While you are buying the fittings also buy the plugs to cap off the disconnected fittings. The main issue you will have is identifying the factory fitting on the end of the hose. My Atlas lift used a BSPP iirc. Unreal that a Chinese lift would use British pattern , imperial thread fittings. The simple way to ID this particular fitting is the 19 TPI. No other fitting pattern ( SAE, DIN, ETC) uses 19 TPI in the 1/4” nptf size. There are a lot of vids out there about IDing hydraulic fittings so educate your self.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Great Tip! I've always wondered about this.
@weldingjunkie
@weldingjunkie 2 жыл бұрын
One more leak point tho. They don’t last I use them daily
@taurusbullykamp4010
@taurusbullykamp4010 2 жыл бұрын
This is pointless unless u doing wheels and suspension
@longfade
@longfade 8 ай бұрын
Haha! What a genius.
@johndeerefarmer4483
@johndeerefarmer4483 3 ай бұрын
I've got quick disconnect fittings on mine. The problem is system is under pressure and you can't disconnect it without cracking the line to let off the pressure
@corey6393
@corey6393 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2 year old MD6XP for $1500 back in '08. It is the single best tool investment I have ever made. I mostly work on old VW's. so the blocking of the center of the car doesn't matter much. But it is very handy for any type of vehicle. I have 9'4" ceilings, and can lift my full size Chevy to almost 4' with no problem. These things are so nice for tire and brake work, oil changes, etc. And, it can be rolled out to the driveway for pressure washing under old junk cars that I pull out of the woods for rebuilding. I generally don't do much work directly under the center ofmy cars where the lift itself is in the way. Some exhaust work, but I don't even bother trying to drop a transmission. I also built a rolling stool to sit on while working under there, and some kneeling pads so my knees are not directly on the hard concrete. If I had a taller ceiling, I would likely have a two post, but I have what I have, so I work with it. For low cars I do the same as in the video. No big deal. My stock height 95 Subaru Legacy hits the catalytic converter right at the center locking mechanism, but I only need a plank on one side to make the car clear. One more great thing about these is they make a great adjustable height work table. I built a plywood top with a frame around the bottom that fits over the lift perfectly. It serves and lawnmower/snowblower service station, engine teardown/build table, and outfeed for my table saw. Even built a few cabinets on it over the years. I highly recommend these for those with height/space limitations. The advantages for outweigh the drawbacks.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
This is great insight. With the work table it also works as an adjustable loading platform for a truck too. To lift heavy stuff in, or drag stuff out of the truck onto the platform to lower down to the ground. Think engines, heavy furniture or refrigerators or just about anything else you can get on there.
@corey6393
@corey6393 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrivingForwardBuilds Yep. I have loaded/unloaded everything from lawnmowers to snow machines. Even a 400 pound wood stove! They are very useful, especially being somewhat portable.
@leetos.4915
@leetos.4915 9 ай бұрын
This is the portable lift of all portable lifts without compromising your back I been looking for…great review thanx a million
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 9 ай бұрын
Hope you love it!
@themechanician7526
@themechanician7526 2 жыл бұрын
I've had the Atlas version of this lift since 2008 and have also done all types of car mods & maintenance. Audi clutch jobs, engine - out work, exhaust systems, brakes, summer - winter tires..... I agree with all pros & cons. At the end of the day, if you don't have ceiling height and you've had it with working on jack stands, these type of lifts will serve you well. Biggest vehicle I've had on mine is a 95 Chevy 2500HD.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@johnellis1952
@johnellis1952 2 жыл бұрын
Keeping this lift as a supplemental lift for specific jobs (i.e. tires, brakes, suspension, some interior work, etc.) is the perfect decision. I would consider recessing it into the concrete floor to eliminate the need for ramps and to make the space usable for regular parking. Having both lifts is the ideal set-up...lucky you!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
I would drop it into the concrete but with post tension floors that turns into a disaster real fast.
@oldphart-zc3jz
@oldphart-zc3jz 5 ай бұрын
The ramps can be any size to make the area usable for parking without butchering a perfectly good floor and could be multi-piece for convenient handling. I'd cut oval handhold slots or drill for pull rope (like aircraft chocks) for easy handling and to hang them for storage if desired. I own one but don't need ramps since I drive trucks. They make very nice lift tables so I use mine for a welding table by draping a welding blanket over the hydraulics to block spatter. Some very short two post lifts exist and given the choice I'd prefer that for working on vehicles but I scored my lift for $500 from a shop that never used it and needed the space for a conventional lift that doesn't block access to the bottom of the vehicle. If you have room for any variety of decent post lift I'd go with one instead. There's nothing wrong with the pantograph lifts for tire and suspension work, swapping tire types for track day etc but after using my bros Quickjack I consider those more versatile. For example they're sweet for drivetrain work because they don't interfere with engine or transmission R&I.
@txman951
@txman951 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched so many reviews of these scissor lifts and this one by far was the best. Thank you again
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks!
@xXxLolerTypxXx
@xXxLolerTypxXx 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that you only have 61 subscribers, your video makes it look like your channel is a lot bigger! You have 62 now :)
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@im58woody
@im58woody 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video presentation! Well spoken, easy to follow, and very informative. I’m finishing my 4 car garage interior design and I’m considering something like this.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks.
@joehoffrage
@joehoffrage 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto! Great explanation!
@stevesperbeck576
@stevesperbeck576 Жыл бұрын
I have the Harbour freight scissor lift and I love it, bought it second hand off of a lady whose husband passed away and got a great deal vs a new one. It wasn't hurt any, it was fully assembled, I brought it home and started using it immediately.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome.
@cdk68
@cdk68 2 жыл бұрын
Bendpak owner here for all the same reasons, my garage layout encouraged me to detach the power unit and attach it to the garage wall near the lift. Combined with quick connects it helps with clutter.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
That is awesome!
@mbrohnUTUBE
@mbrohnUTUBE 2 ай бұрын
That was a fantastic video. I love the pros and cons and learned a lot! I really appreciate the effort and helping a fellow car enthusiast learn and be safe. Thank you!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 ай бұрын
😀Thanks!
@456creaper
@456creaper 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this wonderful insight man. I love your way of presenting!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I really appreciate that.
@gsmith207
@gsmith207 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto that. Great job. Must’ve excelled in class at presentations! Nooice
@mrblack61
@mrblack61 Жыл бұрын
I think this style lift lends itself really well to using the 'Diy wooden wheel cribs' that go under the wheels, would make any trans/exhaust work with the car up on cribs and lift lowered off a breeze. As an ex body guy I really appreciate the access to the sides and sills (rockers). Thanks for the walkaround, you've helped me make my mind up 🙂👍
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Right on. Thanks for the comment.
@BigJim_909
@BigJim_909 26 күн бұрын
I’m just seeing Final Destination in my mind the whole time I’m watching this & now I gotta rewatch it again to listen to what he’s saying now.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 26 күн бұрын
@@BigJim_909 lol. Thankfully I’ve survived all my lift antics. Thanks for watching! 🤣
@markjohnson5081
@markjohnson5081 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same lift and did the exact same things: wooden ramps to increase clearance, marked the lock locations, and put down steel runners. I love this lift. Two tips: one, get a small mechanics stool with wheels. Perfect height. Second, if you need to do a big job with the centre of the vehicle, like install a transfer case on a big K5 Chevy Blazer, use the lift to lift the vehicle up, put jackstands under each corner of the vehicle, lower the scissor lift down all the way and put a piece of plywood, say 4 x 6 feet on top of the lowered scissor platform and work on top of that.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic reply. I tired to say something like this but you make it way clearer.
@marcoac14
@marcoac14 2 жыл бұрын
That’s kind of what’s I did. I have a similar HF lift and it’s perfect for most jobs except for the very first one I had to undertake which was to drop the transmission of a BMW M3. It sits kind of in the middle of the vehicle and the exhaust and prop shaft had to come out first. I built a wooden deck with 2x4 and 3/4” plywood and put it on top of the lift while the vehicle was on extra tall jack stands. Worked like a charm.
@robw7205
@robw7205 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea. Wheel cribs would work really well for that method.
@davidc-l9174
@davidc-l9174 Жыл бұрын
Can you clarify, for the slow folks among us (me)? You put the vehicle up on this lift, place jackstands on the floor, lower the vehicle onto the jackstands, and then use the adapters for trucks or whatever to raise the lift back up, to get the vehicle a bit higher in the air and a bit higher above the lift structure?
@markjohnson5081
@markjohnson5081 Жыл бұрын
@David C-l I had a K5 Chevy Blazer that I was restoring. I had to take out the transfer case and the scissor lift has a centre section that would not give me the clearance required. So after some thought, I decided to raise the Chevy up with the scissor lift and then lower it down onto Jack stands on, the trucks axles. With the scissor lift now down, I put a piece of plywood onto the lowered scissor lift for me to lay on and put a floor jack on, and easily removed and re-installed the transfer case. So the downside of a scissor lifts centre section, can be managed when required.
@viscache1
@viscache1 2 жыл бұрын
So that would simply collapse under the weight of my Hummer or my farm tractor…but I took a butt-load of screenshots and drew up some basic designs and realized I can make a heavy duty version of it in my machine shop for about $1,200 over a long weekend. Thanks for the video and the idea! I had been saving for a two post but worrying that it wouldn’t be stable enough and would take a ton of space. I think putting it on cast iron castors to move it around the shop when necessary would be essential…trust me…sometimes you just have to stop what you’re doing and do something else around the farm to get a piece of equipment back in operation and you just need to move your project out of the way to do that project for an hour…
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fun project to build.
@ocavant
@ocavant Жыл бұрын
Make a video about it 🙂
@99sentcoins
@99sentcoins Жыл бұрын
A 2 post is way better than this no post, movable lift. Think about it.
@davidc-l9174
@davidc-l9174 Жыл бұрын
For more than a year now I’ve been ruminating about which lift to get for my garage. I’m lucky, I have a really big garage, but I only have 9 foot ceilings. Have been focused on the MaxJax but I’m pretty sure you’ve just convinced me to go with this (or another) scissor lift instead. Thanks for the great video, and you really hit all the meaningful pros and cons.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Good luck with choosing. Either way in the end a lift changes everything.
@pjpankratz8829
@pjpankratz8829 2 жыл бұрын
I had one and had the same love/hate relationship with it. I ran the same wooden ramps and being in a small 2 car garage it did make it hard to store things underneath and still have room to open the garage in the winter. It was great and did not regret it. I've since moved and now have a 3 car with 12ft ceilings so a HD-7W is what I have my eye on and hoping prices will come back to earth soon. I do only light work - no more engine out type projects. having the ability to park underneath it will be awesome. Great video BTW!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@lolux6577
@lolux6577 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t hold your breath on prices coming down
@bobd9868
@bobd9868 2 жыл бұрын
The ramps were a no go for me. I hammered out part of my floor, dug down and repoured so that’s it flush with the floor.
@crazyloco8844
@crazyloco8844 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! I like the way you explain "everything". Nicely done.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Very much appreciated.
@Rootythe1st
@Rootythe1st Жыл бұрын
Some really useful info on the pros and cons i hadn't thought of thanks best review ive seen on this type of lift.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@davew7133
@davew7133 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Really clear, very articulate, and very balanced.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
@projectv12bmw66
@projectv12bmw66 2 жыл бұрын
really nice honest review of this scissor lift. Thanks!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@turnscrew3999
@turnscrew3999 2 жыл бұрын
Great video I’ve had the scissor lift since 2017 my back is very happy
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome.
@NAugustyniak
@NAugustyniak Жыл бұрын
I have previously had the pleasure of having a setup like your current shop with a seperate bay and 2 post arrangement. I have since moved to a home with a smaller garage and am forced to consider the space advantages of the scissor lift. I have tons of suspension work to do on a track car and I think your video alone changed my mind from a current 7K BendPak MaxJax to the MD-6XP. Thanks for the excellent video! You're a godsend. After taking measurements, my Ram and my Mustang would fit in my garage, even with it up in the air. It's a huge find and I will certainly sacrifice some of the engine/trans convenience. Huge thanks again!!!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
I’m glad I could help. Sounds like exciting times ahead.
@ozzysgarage
@ozzysgarage 3 күн бұрын
Having an ordinary 2 car garage, this lil lift is pretty neat. Will have to keep an eye out for one. Thanks for the video, awesome car too sir! 🙏
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@gkk2001
@gkk2001 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video review. Obviously from a car enthusiast who knows the pros and cons. Thank you.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 3 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@rcs3289
@rcs3289 Жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, I clicked because of the e39 in the thumbnail. Great vid - very informative. Now I need to search for your e39 track build content…. :)
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! A lot of folks don’t like the e39 but it’s been a fun and creative journey.
@rcs3289
@rcs3289 Жыл бұрын
@@DrivingForwardBuilds I've owned two e39 M5s and I'm always looking to buy another. Great cars!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
@@rcs3289 That's awesome. I'd like to pickup a clean one to build for street use. This one may be for sale at the end of this racing season. I think filming a complete build would be fun, but can't have both...
@Japplesnap
@Japplesnap Жыл бұрын
I went with EZ Car Lift. The cross member unbolts to provide full chassis access. Great for exhaust work, removing the driveshaft, pulling the transmission, etc....
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
That’s pretty cool. I hadn’t seen that lift.
@sevenpaulperalta929
@sevenpaulperalta929 Жыл бұрын
At first, I thought about the negatives too, but after your description I think this may be a great option for me!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Glad to be able to help.
@johnn2557
@johnn2557 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I really like is I'm not locked into using it in one bay of the garage. I have three bays and I can put it in any one of them!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
While tough to move when you do it pays off in dividends.
@truthboomertruthbomber5125
@truthboomertruthbomber5125 Жыл бұрын
I fabricated an A frame lift on the back of my garden tractor. Makes it pretty easy to move the lift but you do need a lot of room for maneuvering the combination. On the broomed finished driveway it’s impossible for me to move the lift with the hydraulic pump cart. This is also a good reason for installing hydraulic quick disconnects.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
@@truthboomertruthbomber5125 that’s a slick idea. I don’t have access to a tractor anymore but that would have made it much easier to move.
@nickaxe771
@nickaxe771 Ай бұрын
Fantastic.....over here in the UK scaffold yard will sell you use scaffold planks that may have damaged ends......they can be very long and still useful.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Ай бұрын
That's cool, and sounds like it would save some $$.
@williamwade7059
@williamwade7059 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed to see, Subscribed
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@Kiss__Kiss
@Kiss__Kiss 2 жыл бұрын
Great info dissecting the ins and outs/Pros and Cons of this product. Just shared it.. Thank You. Happy Early New Year's day to you.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Happy New Year :-)
@petemiller519
@petemiller519 Ай бұрын
Great video! I was thinking of getting a 2 or 4 poster. I have a thick reinforced slab just so it could handle a 2 poster and 12' ceiling, but hate the thought of tying up space in the shop. The portable aspect is really nice. I never knew there is such a thing. Thanks! Cheers from Canada.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Ай бұрын
It really depends on the type of work you enjoy or need to do. I currently have a two post as well and it’s fantastic, but can be in the way sometimes.
@matthewpeterson3329
@matthewpeterson3329 2 ай бұрын
I love this lift. I actually have two TW200 motorcycles that I roll onto the lift, side by each, for storage or when I am working on them. The lift and the bikes tuck in the corner of my shop perfectly. When I working on a car and I need access to the center of the car, I picked up some 5k truck jack stands that I set the car onto so I can roll the lift away and have full access under the car. It's not high enough to sit under, but it's plenty tall enough to roll around underneath on a creeper and work straight armed. It's really a great investment for folks who work on their cars a lot.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 ай бұрын
Love the creativity with the jack stands!
@matthewpeterson3329
@matthewpeterson3329 2 ай бұрын
@DrivingForwardBuilds My son has a G35 that he is setting up for track day use. We do so much undercarriage work on all his friends cars that we probably pull the lift out and leave it on stands 50% of the time. This lift isn't perfect, but damned good.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 ай бұрын
@@matthewpeterson3329 Love it. Share the tool and bring the kids into it! I have a 15-year-old who just got his permit and wants to get on the track too. Looking forward to more garage time.
@schoolForAnts
@schoolForAnts Жыл бұрын
instead of securing the ramps to the floor permanently, you can drill a whole in the concrete and put a matching hole in the ramps at the end and drop a pin/bolt through it to keep them in place when you pull up onto the ramps. When the car is off, pull out the pin and then you can store the ramps elsewhere if you so desire. Just an option. My garage has an unusual curb/carwalk thing that wraps the end and side so i just made my ramps longenough to but up against that so they done move while I'm pulling onto them and then i stash them off to the side when no in use. Granted I don't have a nice scissor lift, my car is too low even for a low profile floor jack lmao. Nice beamer and CST-V too, both are in my top 10 favorite cars. And I spy an EGA on the beamer. Semper Fi hermano, I was in '09-'13.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Smart thought on keeping the ramps in place. Mine aren’t bolted down so I can adjust the width and I use the small end ramps with my trailer to.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
On a side note thank you for your service sir. I come from a military family but was denied for medical reasons and couldn't serve. That's an SCCA sticker on the car and from a distance looks similar.
@dcrasta
@dcrasta 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, sweet car. Happy Holidays and Thank you
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Happy holidays! Thanks!
@sjohnson574
@sjohnson574 2 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering about these. Thanks for the video you've answered a lot of my questions.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad it helped. I really struggled to find info on them way back when I bought mine.
@nvkulk
@nvkulk Жыл бұрын
Have mine for 5 years and now issues Reliable and great quality
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
That’s great!
@keltechindustries20901
@keltechindustries20901 10 ай бұрын
This video sold me. I was wonder if it have enough to lift my bmw and low behold moment at intro it was confirmed. Thank you sir I am definitely going to buy this.
@agentwithabeard
@agentwithabeard 10 ай бұрын
Awesome! Have fun with the new found experience. This lift was a game-changer for me.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 10 ай бұрын
Guess I responded from my other channel.... whoops.
@1stGenCRXs
@1stGenCRXs Жыл бұрын
I have owned this same lift for 7 years now. I use it regularly for my track car, 86 CRX, and it is so much better than the years of jacks and jack stands. I have also used for brake and tire work my Tacoma quad cab and an Audi S4. It had no trouble lifting them and being stable. I would say I didn’t lift beyond second lock for that work with the heavier vehicles. Final that is Bendpak is dropping the ball on parts support. One of my cylinders spits out oil above the second lock and the gasket at the bottom of the tank is leaking. They do not sell seal kits for the cylinders, and have changed them a few times. Replacing them is over $400 each. They also do not sell the tank seal without buying the entire power unit. Buyer beware. I do still love mine and use it very regularly.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Good feedback.
@CityEstates
@CityEstates 2 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same lift for the exact same reasons, 7.5' ceiling height as my garage is in my 'basement'. I am in a 2 car garage, so when I work on a car I put it in the middle and bring out my wooden ramps (same setup as you). Once done I installed a winch on the wall and store it up against the wall off the floor as it becomes a pain to use the garage for any other type of DIY with this thing in the middle of the floor. Your summary was spot on. Can you do a video on your car setup, I have a 2003 M5 Individual, started tracking it this year, subbing to follow your progress.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
I’m planning to do a walk through on the build soon. It’s still a work in progress. Wish I had filmed the early stages but oh well.
@digijams
@digijams 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your work making this vid, pretty much just sold one for my E92 335i.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 6 ай бұрын
Nice!
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 2 жыл бұрын
Great review
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@a.c.e.7568
@a.c.e.7568 Жыл бұрын
I did the Pros & Cons of lifts while thinking which one to buy over a whole year, both of the two post and the scissors lift. The biggest Pro of a scissors lift, no holes to drill into concrete and the biggest Con is the underside of the vehicle is not clear for work to be done and that was a big one for me. So I bought a MaxJax which I have now owned for 10 years. Of course I did my own installation to a far level higher than what MaxJax recommended (I didn't trust the concrete floor thickness in private homes) and although not hard, it was time consuming and slightly more expensive.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
The Max Jax was in my early round-up as well. But at the time I wasn't willing to drill/cut my concrete, leaving me with a 4 post (which wouldn't fit) or the scissor. Glad the MaxJax has worked out for you!
@_jackreder
@_jackreder 24 күн бұрын
This video single handedly got me to buy one of these. Now i need to go to Home Depot and build a set of these ramps cause i have a car thats too low
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 24 күн бұрын
Wow, that's a heck of a compliment. Hope you love it!
@thewholls7176
@thewholls7176 8 ай бұрын
Good job mate. I had one of these in Canberra Australia for my V8 Ford Fairlane. Only downside for me was when the car is on the lift with the weight at the front. The nose tends to point down slightly just a few inches it’s no big deal….. So now, when you drain the sump oil the drain bolt is on the back in my case Therefore with a slight angle downwards at the front after you’ve drained it out theres still a litre or more of old oil trapped in the front of the sump To get to that you have to lower the car to the floor and let it drain properly according to its own stance on the suspension So you just need to keep an eye on that geometry if you’re doing oil changes but otherwise they are really good
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 8 ай бұрын
That's an interesting observation. Smart to lower it so you could get the rest of the oil out.
@caseyeldridge5557
@caseyeldridge5557 12 күн бұрын
Perfect guy to review a lift…one who owns a pile bmw and will need to work on it all the time 😂
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 12 күн бұрын
@@caseyeldridge5557 well, can’t say you’re wrong. This lift has gotten its fair amount of use!
@dingodave3966
@dingodave3966 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you were my neighbour. Lol. That beard, I bloody love it. Oh, the lift, yeah I like it. So many great uses you mentioned. Pros and cons to everything. Great set up you have. Awesome!!!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@funfunnystuff
@funfunnystuff Жыл бұрын
Great video, great info. I like the video length, long video but doesn't feel drug out. Just said everything that needed to be said.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. I really do appreciate that you took the time to watch and even more so to comment!
@michaelpemantel1970
@michaelpemantel1970 Жыл бұрын
Very informative,I'll be looking into getting one for me & my brother-in-law. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Have fun with it!!
@mbrohnUTUBE
@mbrohnUTUBE 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 ай бұрын
Daaaangg. Thank you! 😊
@TheRnorman33
@TheRnorman33 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, I'd love to have a lift one day! the main issue we have at our current house is the "split" 2 car garage with the doors separated by a column. There's just no way NOT to be tight against a wall. I've been looking at these "mobile" lifts to use in the driveway instead (once we solve the slope issue).
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Those garage posts are tough to work around.
@hatemsgarage
@hatemsgarage 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you there… I just spent about $12k installed two massive LVL beams in my garage to delete 4 preexisting lally columns. I can’t believe anyone would build a garage with those damn things in there.
@teslatrackdays2819
@teslatrackdays2819 Жыл бұрын
Super helpful. Been considering a lift at home and learned a ton about the considerations.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
@bobd9868
@bobd9868 2 жыл бұрын
One key thing to remember with these lifts, you need to go “up” to go down. With an SUV, It can be really close to not being able to do that (like roof rack pressing into the sheetrock).
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
That would for sure put you in a "bind". So glad I've come close but not yet been stuck. You need about 1-1/2" to clear the locks.
@tony5006
@tony5006 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrivingForwardBuilds I drive a convertible, as does my wife. In the garage we have if the roof and door windows are down it does give me whole lot more space to lift. The one I bought has 5 stages of "locks".
@davidduffield7553
@davidduffield7553 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Harbor Freight version of this lift. it you are using to lift 911's, reverse the position of the lift. This allows all assess to the motor and transmission.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Smart! I haven't had the need but always wondered if loading the opposite direction worked well.
@bradnettekoven2837
@bradnettekoven2837 Жыл бұрын
Excellent informative review,,,,not a lot of wasted words. Thanks
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@analogdesigner-Jay
@analogdesigner-Jay 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I've been looking around for a way to lift my 2005 Ford GT.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@tony5006
@tony5006 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't read any comments about the ease of moving this lift yet. It is possible, but it ain't easy. But it can be. I made to rollers which fit into the ends of the frame in front of the rollers. Then I made a "tow" pin which fits into my trolley jack and the "tow-eye" of the lift This is so much easier than trying to use the pump dolly for lifting AND towing. The trolley jack carries the weight all you have to do is pull.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a really good idea. The trolley Jack is a lot of work to move it.
@LP_REALITY
@LP_REALITY 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Sick E39 too. Man you’ve done a ton to it.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton!
@TheBry_Guy
@TheBry_Guy 8 ай бұрын
I enjoyed your video so I will post this here. I tried to buy the Bendpak but it was out of stock for months (Ontario Canada) so I settled for a brand called PEAK. All of these lifts seem to be the same. The build quality for the PEAK is excellent. the motor/stand/hydraulics etc are all excellent. my main issue with bendpak is that there are only 3 lock points. it seems all the rest have 6 or 7, including mine. It was assembled entirely aside from the hydraulic and lock pull cord, and 4 bolts to fasten the pump to the cart. So if you are faced with a price difference or delivery delay. don't be afraid of the PEAK brand. In canada, the price, delivered in my garage at home, with liftgate service was 3300 plus tax. shipping is included if you can get it off the truck. it was 100$ more for liftgate service. The BENDPAK would have been another 500$.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 8 ай бұрын
This is great information! Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm sure this will help someone out there looking for a lift.
@TheBry_Guy
@TheBry_Guy 8 ай бұрын
I forgot to mention, a company called BABCO is the Canadian distributor for BENDPAK, and they also sell PEAK. From Order to delivery in my garage was 3 business days.
@failranch9542
@failranch9542 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Having seen it, I’ll stick with my 7000# Quick Jack. My car is just as low as yours but I need no ramps. While I can’t get it up quite as high as you (insert she said joke) the space that scissor mechanism takes up is awful. Thanks for the review. I had considered one of these and am now happy I didn’t get it.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I was able to help!
@ThomasC0951
@ThomasC0951 2 жыл бұрын
Hello @fail ranch - Can you engine swap with 7000#quickjack? I dont think you can get the car high enough.
@megas4456
@megas4456 Жыл бұрын
Great review... and love the E39 track car.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thanks. It's a unique track car for sure! Draws a bit of attention in the paddock.
@obfuscated3090
@obfuscated3090 4 ай бұрын
I bought mine from a very busy shop who never used it because their two-post lifts were far more versatile and time is money. For 500 bucks used I'm happy but If I buy new it will be a two-post lift (which are not difficult for any decent mechanic to install because I've done it).
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like a great deal! Nice find.
@ggworks2
@ggworks2 Жыл бұрын
Nice lift. I have the same mid rise scissor lift. Had it for about 3 years. I agree with you about having a 2 poster which is better for underneath the vehicle but a scissor lift is better if you are working on the sides of the vehicle. Again, it's all a compromise. Like the E46 track day car too! I had a E36v track day car which I loved!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Right on!
@GearsAndTech
@GearsAndTech 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed your video. Its a shame how channels like yours have to work so hard to get the views and the subs. This space is just so full that its an uphill battle. Ive been wanting a lift like this for at least 10 years, and think I am finally in a position where I can justify the expense. Appreciate the full breakdown to help someone like me buy one. Maybe Ill feature it on my channel one day....
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and support. I’m certainly gonna keep trying and grow my knowledge to put out better content. Good luck with the lift purchase.
@Hulley29
@Hulley29 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I have mine ordered and hopefully it should be here within a couple weeks. I have an air cooled 911 so this will be perfect for me.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
It's gonna be a lot of fun to have. Congrats!
@vwaudiwelder
@vwaudiwelder Жыл бұрын
Everything you said absolutely makes sense. I have a full rise single column Canadian built PORT A HOIST I got for $600 delivered 90 minutes away that I use frequently and also picked up on the Zuckerberg Matrix marketplace a 24" rise SNAP ON scissor lift for $300 which I hope to use soon. So nice it is to get up off the floor like a damn dirty ape.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Those sound like cool finds.
@pi.actual
@pi.actual Жыл бұрын
I bought the MaxJax about four years ago and it gives 48 inches of lift but, as you pointed out, it's not so great for anytime you need to get in or out of the car or work on anything inside the door. So obviously the ideal solution is to have one of each.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Ideal, but pricey. I saved up for awhile to have both.
@stefanburemo9661
@stefanburemo9661 Жыл бұрын
Have a quickjack in my 775 sq feet garage. I Chose this type of lift because I didn't like the restrictions a fixed 2 post lift would create. The only thing that I miss. I would really have loved it to lift 10 more inches. Besides..when I don't just the lift I keep 4 cars in my garage.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a cool garage. Have you tried stacking the truck adapters to get more height?
@stefanburemo9661
@stefanburemo9661 Жыл бұрын
@@DrivingForwardBuilds Back here in good old Sweden there were no truck adapters included. Ibhade to make do...so I use an office chair to get a better height when it comes to brake jobs.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
@@stefanburemo9661 dang. Good idea with the office chair to improve ergonomics.
@crossbow3539
@crossbow3539 2 жыл бұрын
They make a kind of sitting recliner creeper for those shorter lifts I’ve never used one but they look like they would work really well.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great idea. I use a shop stool but always seem to get stuck on stuff and wind up kneeling instead out of frustration. A nice reclining creeper/stool would probably solve that problem.
@gsmith207
@gsmith207 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid and great ideas to have one! ‘See honey? I can clean your car better!” Love it! I got a 2 piece scissor and a 4 post and a 2 post. Love the little scissor lift and can use it in driveway which is cool! Gained a sub!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
There's always a reason for a new tool!
@artimusbill
@artimusbill 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Enjoyed the details and perspective. Subscribed.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@prebaned
@prebaned 5 ай бұрын
That looks like a great man trap.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 5 ай бұрын
Accurate.
@kuladeeluxe
@kuladeeluxe Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, beautiful E39
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@ajazi72
@ajazi72 2 жыл бұрын
Nice , Give us a quick run vid about your air compressor system specially the dryer and the filters. Thank you.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
The Air compressor is pretty simple. It's just a 30 gallon Husky compressor. No drier at this time. Plumbed with a quick disconnect for my air hose.
@magsteel9891
@magsteel9891 2 жыл бұрын
I worked in a shop for years, we would never get under a car supported only by the lift. We used tall jack stands instead
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. When working under the car I use a set of 30 ton house support stands. They have 1” pins to adjust the height and a screw top for fine adjustment.
@robw7205
@robw7205 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using the one I bought from harbor freight for 6 years. This style of lift sure has helped with a lot of tasks, but I'm planning on upgrading to the low profile Max lift. There are just too many places I can't reach and the constant wear of the steel wheels on the floor have worn grooves in it.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The steel plates have saved my floors.
@DSperformance96
@DSperformance96 Жыл бұрын
Hello! Thanks for the info in the video. I'd like to make something similiar, however i'd need some measurements! Scissor hands lenght, piston diameter and lenght. The more measurements you can take the better! Thanks for your help!!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
The arms are 24”. Cylinders are 3” and 20.5” long.
@DSperformance96
@DSperformance96 Жыл бұрын
@@DrivingForwardBuilds Are both the arms on each side the same lenght? I've got some measurements from a lift like this, and it seems the pushing arm is 10 inches longer
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
@@DSperformance96 hmmm, I may be misunderstanding you. The arms I thought you were referring to are the swing arms that the lift pads go on. Those are all the same.
@DSperformance96
@DSperformance96 Жыл бұрын
@@DrivingForwardBuilds the scissor arms on the side, yeah. Okay maybe the other guy got it wrong. Thanks anyways!
@charlesdodge8768
@charlesdodge8768 Жыл бұрын
I've had nothing but cylinder problems, very poor company support. Worked in the lift industry for 40, years. I would check with other companies
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
That's a bummer. I did have a cylinder issue but it was my fault for not properly servicing them. I was however able to tear them down, clean them up and have been problem free since. Thanks for watching and hope whatever you're currently using is working great.
@adrianmcintosh3523
@adrianmcintosh3523 Жыл бұрын
@DrivingForwardBuilds Hi mate we recently bought a very similar one to yours but ours didn't explain to wiring from the motor, the kit came with a section of wire brown,blue and yellow/green and the motor has 2 red wires coming out of it that aren't labelled, would you be able to see where your power cable goes into what port.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
@@adrianmcintosh3523 Hey sorry for the late reply. I've been traveling and just got home to open my unit up and look. I'm running 110v and have a white, black and green wire coming in. The white and black go to the contactor on terminal 3/5. The door that you remove that the push button is installed in has a schematic on the back side. Is yours missing?
@paganpoetprophet6441
@paganpoetprophet6441 Жыл бұрын
Lot of good info ,good video thanks I'm getting ready build a small shop.for my mustangs in research mode
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Take a look at my 2 post video if it might help. Good luck with the research.
@donahartsr.319
@donahartsr.319 2 жыл бұрын
You just helped me decide to get one thank you.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@jakeeames725
@jakeeames725 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at this lift for mostly my e46 what a nice surprise!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
It should work out great. As mentioned in some other comments the lift points are right at the edge with BMW but still work well.
@Bavarian_M
@Bavarian_M Жыл бұрын
Great video and beautiful M5
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@VS666
@VS666 2 жыл бұрын
this is also a great compromise if you can't (maybe renting or budget) put the proper amount of concrete underneath for a 2 post lift. this lift is probably doable for 85% of most enthusiasts work in the garage. i'm at an age now where I want to stand under the car without crouching and bending over, so 2 post it is
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
The concrete is for sure an issue for some. My garage has post tension cables and was was very hesitant to install my two post lift.
@abduhlrivers45
@abduhlrivers45 Жыл бұрын
I like ur M. I like ur review. Keep it up. And stay blessed. I have a 550i. And i do my own work. I have an oil pump issue rn. And im looking for a lift to purchase
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@latesttechtrends1227
@latesttechtrends1227 2 жыл бұрын
Man i am subbing just because i like your personality. regarding the lift, my biggest fear is what if there is an earthquake. they come without warning and can upset the vehicle. i would want for u to make a L shape piece out of thick steel in a way so that it fits at scissor axis and wont let it close no matter what. then it would be mechanically impossible for the lift to come down unless u remove that block.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub. I use some heavy stands as a back up. I like that idea though.
@themagstory3373
@themagstory3373 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Thanks for all the info.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 2 жыл бұрын
I have the quick jack (the 7000lb version) and prefer it over this. This style of jack blocks the entire midsection of the vehicle, which is a pretty critical problem for me. There is a lot in the middle of a vehicle, especially if it is RWD or 4WD (like the transmission, transfer case, driveshaft, exhaust, etc) and this style of lift will block all of that. The Quick Jack also doesn’t have any moving parts in contact with the floor, so no risk of damaging the floor. The lift height isn’t any issue for me because 1) my standard height garage won’t allow me to lift any higher (mostly because of the garage door opener) and 2) I’d rather lie on a creeper and roll around under the car rather that squat under the car. This lift might be better for wheel and brake work though.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Valid points!
@XxXDOMINIONXxX
@XxXDOMINIONXxX Жыл бұрын
i love how all of these lifts have doubled or more in price since 3 years ago.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
They really have. Inflation is a killer right now.
@robhunter2435
@robhunter2435 2 жыл бұрын
I own three cars and do most of the work on the vehicles myself. I bought the 7000 quickjacks. My experience with the lift has been good but it is a lot of work to line up lift points especially on the Contour SVT and ended up fabricating extensions because the lift points were a few inches wider than the jack itself. Also fabricated lift point adapters for said car. The issue with quickjack is that it is specific to cars so you have to measure and pick the jack that is within your jackpoint range. If you get a new car there is no guarantee it will work on that car and does not lift that high maybe 3-4 ft. Your jack is great and looked at that one but it has limited access to the center but can be used on any car any size as long as the weight capacity of the lift is not exceeded. I am a big guy and there is no chance getting in there comfortably to do exhaust work or driveshaft removal on the Mustang The truth is all lifts have their quirks and you have seemed to work around most of it for yours. The quickjacks are good just a lot of fucking around to line them up properly.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@MrSteve8511
@MrSteve8511 Жыл бұрын
Glad you showed an a UTV on this lift... could be a good alternative to a table lift! What the lowest lock height ?
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
The first lock height is at 23”. The second is at right around 34”.
@johnmccarthy2268
@johnmccarthy2268 9 ай бұрын
This was a very informative video, thanks!!!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 9 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@simsmr691
@simsmr691 7 ай бұрын
Great video review, thanks for sharing. And yes, Tool addiction is real!....😂😂😂😂
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 7 ай бұрын
It really is!
@PANTYEATR1
@PANTYEATR1 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video. I have a 2 car garage with a 96.5" ceiling. So that's 8ft 1/2 inches. One of these might be good for me, but i have 2 cars, 1 motorcycle and shelves on each wall. The shelves ate up enough space to turn my garage into a small 2 car garage which leaves no room to work. My other car doesn't currently run and my driveway declines, so pushing it out isn't an option. I'll see what i can do tho
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
That's tough. When I first bought this lift I was in a 540 sq ft 3 car garage. It really only fit 2 cars barely. It took some figuring but where there's a will....
@PANTYEATR1
@PANTYEATR1 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrivingForwardBuilds i hear ya, my garage is 18' x 20'
@suburbanacreage
@suburbanacreage 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the video taking off my dude. Keep making content and get monetized!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
That's the plan! Keep learning and keep trying.
@TheNightmare692009
@TheNightmare692009 5 ай бұрын
I was looking at Quick Jacks as they would allow removal of a transmission in a rear wheel drive car. This lift blocks any work on the mid under section of the car.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 5 ай бұрын
It makes it tough. I had to weigh how many transmissions I’d be pulling vs all the other work I would be doing.
@2fast790
@2fast790 2 жыл бұрын
This does seem a lot better than most scissor lifts already. I worked at a shop where a scissor lift was donated to us. The story goes a new guy put his head underneath to check the lift points, and then told the other tech to raise it. That crushed his head and killed him instantly. That was why I always said no to scissor lifts. The design of this scissor lift seems to make that possibility less likely.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely don’t want to be near the moving parts.
@99sentcoins
@99sentcoins Жыл бұрын
These lifts still recommend Jack stands.
@High_Tech_Mountain
@High_Tech_Mountain Жыл бұрын
Appreciate this video. THank you very much for your review!!
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Champthebigreddog
@Champthebigreddog Жыл бұрын
Great video review. But the optics of the actual size of the garage with the two post lift, the world’s worst helmet shelf, and neighborhood’s cleanest water supply say I got this for when I’m out on the trail.
@DrivingForwardBuilds
@DrivingForwardBuilds Жыл бұрын
The shelf is pretty terrible.
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