Benelli Leoncino | Review from Knox

Introducing the Benelli Leoncino, reviewed here in the Lake District, England - 10miles from the Knox factory and HQ.
The Benelli Leoncino is probably the most surprising bike we have tested in recent years. It represents one of the best new bike value propositions currently on UK sale. A 500 cc parallel twin suitable for A2 licence holders, but delivering enough performance, agility and value to satisfy the more experienced rider, the Leoncino impresses in almost all departments. The Leoncino is good looking, characterful and although now manufactured in China, somehow still possesses a slice of Italian charm! It comes with plenty of useful kit including Led lights, Gear position indicator and a fuel gauge. We’d call it tremendous bang for your buck and we love it!
The Leoncino is available here bit.ly/2CUflgQ 0.
We obtained pricing information from our friends and Knox dealer Millenium Motorcycles as per below and recommend contacting them if you want to go ahead with this offer:
Leoncino Trail
- UK rrp - £5499 otr Hire Purchase cost - £133.10 per month with a £199 customer deposit
- term 48 months
- 9.9% apr representative
If you would like to find more about this deal, please check out the link here bit.ly/2CUflgQ 0.
A big part of us doing these review videos is not only for the pleasure of riding motorcycles, but also to test the gear that we make. In this video we were wearing:
In the video Mark was wearing:
Haydon Denim Jacket - bit.ly/2HcRisv
Urbane Shirt Brown - bit.ly/2JSIJFj
Spencer Jean in Black - bit.ly/2EVLZfe
Orsa Leather Glove in Black - bit.ly/29Bivbd
Aaron was wearing:
Roscoe Leather Jacket in black - bit.ly/2O2jcLa
Action Shirt - bit.ly/1HpJw7F
Richmond Jeans - bit.ly/1OcZJ3z
Covert Gloves - bit.ly/1IMDNbR
Quilted Jacket - bit.ly/2wRGPPz
Hope you enjoyed this video, please like, comment and subscribe and get in touch if you have any feedback!
Many thanks,
Aaron
Knox
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[@shakinsherlock66]

Nice one lads. Good to hear this bike,despite all the signs to the contrary, is as good as it looks. Great review. And I dig your Knox work.

[@johnastirzaker3109]

Great review, the Benelli's are designed in Italy, built in China then shipped back to Italy for quality control checks and then shipped out world wide.

[@Paul-kp1tu]

I’m not sure about the made in China complaints. In reality Honda’s cb500x and Ducati’s scramblers are all made in Thailand , another military regime so really the point is quality and design. I’ll be having a look at one here is Aus It was the same argument when I bought a new bonneville in 2003 ( still have it) , now they’re made in Asia as well. Would that stop me buying a new triumph? No but the price might. Paul

[@1990-t1j]

I've just watched this again. The linear delivery is due to the 360-degree crank. Behaves like a triple. I wouldn't mind a low-mileage, secondhand one really cheap in Thailand. An acquaintance in Chiang Rai has had one for three years and hasn't had one issue, and he does a lot of long runs. Nick J

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

It's beautiful. I'd love it with a Yamaha CP2 engine; every 500 I've tried has left me wanting a bit more.

[@genegoodwin8925]

I've never seen a Leoncino in real life but it sounds like it delivers more smiles per mile than most bikes.

[@kyojima7190]

I do own one and I absolutely love it.

[@mark.e.p]

pleased then?

[@napadaanlng69]

Benelli brand in the Philippines are quite famous too for their fair/affordable price and the parts are easy to replace mostly compatible parts are from big 4 brand motorcycles.

[@parbatisingha9364]

There's no doubt.it is a coolest bike.

[@simianrogue]

Seriously considering this as my first bike after being away from motorbiking for nearly 30 years. Oddly enough, my bike back then was a Honda XL250 Trail - lovely four stroke engine with a gorgeous 'blat-blat-blat' engine noise. Sadly it was stolen and cannibalised , as we later found out once it was recovered. So that put me off owning a bike. Until now. Mid life crisis here I come! Great, informative video. Many thanks, guys.

[@myridemyadventure]

It's a nice bike. I've been to a lot of place with this bike. Yes, it gave me a few prblm with fuel pump, exhaust etc(i can't remember). But it reasonable price. And i still love it.

[@allsearpw3829]

It seems to tick most of the boxes at a price not to break the bank . You both seemed to like it . Thank for your review .

[@tianstn2891]

hello, I'm wondering how tall the rider is? Is this bike suitable to those 193Cm tall people (6'3'')?

[@KnoxArmour]

Hi, I am 5'10" mark is 5'11". This bike would be definitely suited to 6'3" person... Thanks, Aaron Knox

[@noicadive]

I have one

[@KnoxArmour]

Thanks for comment, do you agree with what we say in our review? Thanks Aaron Knox

[@noicadive]

@@KnoxArmour Sim, concordo com tudo o que disseram,tem um bom torque e qualidade/preço é imbatível, não é uma Ducati scrambler mas gostava de ver um comparativo.

[@yipman214]

@@noicadive Translation: I agree with everything they said, it has good torque and quality / price is unbeatable, not a Ducati scrambler but I would love to see a comparative

[@oliveroliver7330]

I ordered it the other day

[@pauld.b7129]

I want one. If i designed a motorcycle for myself, it would be this bike. Light, tourqey, great looking, a little bit of character. I wonder where i can find a Benelli dealer? Its the same company that makes SSR dirtbikes, which are actually damn durable for what you pay. I think they're really putting effort into the Benelli brand too. I believe all the design of the engines and appearance is all done in Italy and its built and owned in China. Good combination i think. Good price and characterful design, this is a sure winner.

[@eye4484]

Whats the difference with Italian made ? and why the Chinese use Italian Label, misleading

[@VittorioSergi]

the whole project is italiano, R&D are based here in italy, assembly and some parts are chinese

[@yodomcat]

Been waiting for this review, and it has confirmed this is what I’ll be ordering as my first big bike. It looks so great. I think it will match my Leonard jacket nicely 😉

[@roycspary8923]

all 3 bmw's I owned in my youth were wonderful to ride, hideously expensive to own and all 3died on me, oh the joyous follies of youth at 67 I now own a Honda, took me a long time to catch on to reality, no fool like an old fool who was also foolish when younger

[@MrAndrew1953]

Only thing I’ve heard against them in Australia is the spare parts situation. Hopefully this has improved since late 2018. I like the versatility version of the Trail.

[@jezzamouse5644]

Part easier to get nowadays? CONSIDERING getting one of these im west aus

[@gorugby3197]

C'est fait !!! ;-)) Achat de ma Léoncino 500 grise d'occasion 3500km garantie 2 ans de 2019 , j'ai déjà fait plus de 1000km , un pur régal je suis très surpris par cette moto, une superbe sonorité (pot d'origine), un freinage d'enfer, une position de conduite parfaite ... et en duo mon épouse ne se plaint pas pour les balades du dimanche. Cette moto ne passe pas inaperçue, pas mal de personne viennent me poser des questions sur cette "bécane". Bref, cette " bécane" à un super rapport qualité/prix je la recommande pour les jeunes conducteur (A2) ou comme moi un peu plus âgés (48 ans) . Merci BENELLI .

[@toupti76h60]

Après vous aviez Quoi comme moto avant. Moi j'ai une Suzuki gs1000g de 1980 , c'est une super moto mais maintenant j'ai 63ans et elle commence à être lourde, en plus je suis sûr la pointe des pieds avant quand j'étais plus jeune ça me fessait rien mais maintenant avec l'âge les 273 kilos commence a peser. Le consessionaire ma dit qu'il me faudrait cette moto la 500c Beneli, mais quand on a eu une gs1000g pendant 15 ans c'est dure de prendre une 500

[@gorugby644]

@@toupti76h60 Effectivement, passer d'une 1000cc à une 500cc c'est difficile, maintenant il faut dire que la technologie a beaucoup changé aussi , cette moto en est la preuve, vous allez perdre évidemment de la puissance, mais allez l'essayer et vous ne serez pas déçu. Perso je roulais en 650 bandit. Bonne journée

[@toupti76h60]

@@gorugby644 merci je crois que je vais faire ça, c'est peut être ma dernière moto

[@gorugby644]

@@toupti76h60 Pensez que la trail ( jante à rayon) est plus haute, moi j'ai la normale ( jante à baton) je mesure 1.66m . Franchement vous serez pas déçu, évidemment il vous faudra prendre vos marque car 30ans avec la même moto ce sera un peut difficile de reprendre ses marques ( position de conduite, freinage ...)au début .

[@toupti76h60]

@@gorugby644 oui je pense qu'il y aura pas de problème, c'est plutôt avec la puissances . Après je m'habituerai 😏.

[@jeffreymiichael1603]

Made in China, so are some BMW motorbikes.

[@mark.e.p]

Interesting bike and great review, I'm liking this a lot, my only concern would be dealer back up in the UK?

[@KnoxArmour]

Thanks Mark!! They are brought in by MotoGB group who have quite a set up here in the UK and several of their own dealerships. You can check them out on www.motogb.co.uk/. Hope that helps, Aaron - Knox.

[@paulsavory4529]

I have one dealer back up in UK no problem

[@santiagovalenzuelaa7944]

The best bike from Benelli.

[@roymichaeldeanable]

200 kg seems pretty heavy to me

[@freshasadaisy4782]

light weight means higher price

[@Velosirraton]

I've read that on the official Benelli page for my country that this bike weights 170 kg dry, so the kerb weight must be around 185 or so. Everywhere people say it's 200 kg, because they use the TRK 502 chart(which is way bulkier but uses the same engine).

[@onyabikejoe7643]

That’s what I also thought. 🤔 I’m currently riding a Yamaha XJR 1300, it’s a big bike, dry weight 224 kgs.

[@marcmaz21]

That’s not very heavy at all and this bike has a low center of gravity thus making it feel even lighter

[@RidesInforests]

Dumb question.. Would these tires be better on wet tarmac than slicks because of the extra grooves?

[@KnoxArmour]

Yes 100%

[@85hthapa]

i really love this bike, and the video, information is great too,

[@MikaJarvi86]

You know what? Isn't it!

[@goulash75]

A lot of the descriptions you're giving this bike remind me of the original BMW R80GS touring bike. It wasn't an excellent road bike and it wasn't an excellent dirt bike... but it did everything reasonably well. Back then, the people reviewing it didn't get it and said it wouldn't do well. That it was a bike that didn't know what it wanted to be... We all know what happened next.

[@PhucThien1]

people said "the screw will come out after hundred miles" do you see it ?

[@PhucThien1]

pls review more for this bike !

[@sunriseradio8379]

Could you tour on this bike. Thinking mainly about comfort for long days in the saddle? Currently ride an ER6F.

[@KnoxArmour]

Yes 100% you can, really comfortable seat and position. Also had an er6f and pretty comparable in terms of comfort. Thanks, aaron Knox

[@lancepattinson4790]

i went from er6n to MT 07...its lighter and much more powerful..

[@iangriffiths9930]

Hey guys could you please do a comparison between this and the new fantic 500 scrambler? Would love to get your thoughts?

[@daverose4774]

I have 1 Keep it dry Look after it and it is epic Abuse it and pay the price . Beautiful motorcycle. Seriously Beautiful styling is epic.

[@frankpinion4937]

Nice one! How did you find the 360 degree crank for vibration-I'm a bit confused as to why they didn't go down the path of a 180 degree crank as better balance-less vibration and they idle better as they firing is offset. 360 degree crank is like having two single's. Are these bikes made in China? Given the hp didn't really see the need for 2 disc's. Otherwise a great size bike as an all rounder-good performance & not too heavy. Probably two of the main criticisms of the Himalayan is the lack of power and it's 200 kg for a 411 cc single (wet). This is the same weight on the weigh bridge as my Moto Guzzi 750 Breva '07 twin with shaft drive. If Royal Enfield can put out a 411 cc single that weighs the same as the Moto Guzzi then there's something seriously wrong. It must have a horrendously heavy flywheel. One thing missing from your review like most reviews is ease of maintenance. Oil filter's/ oil/ plugs/ access for battery/ air cleaner / tappets etc. Basic stuff that a competent home mechanic would have a go at.

[@1960ARC]

This is a really nice looking bike! Also like the Jawa scarambler 500 which i don't think we can get in the UK.

[@NhiepKen]

Anyone own this bike plz have a longterm review, I like this bike but Made in China Bike is not famous for longterm use in my country (My friend used to have Benelli BN302 and when he used it for 2 years, it had lots of problem) But everyone tell good things about this Leoncino and I can't find any longterm review for this one on Google

[@davidrestrepo2826]

You should do a comparison with the RE interceptor as soon as you get it !

[@therealunclevanya]

Going to be very similar price for a solid 650 twin

[@themightydash1714]

Do the NC500 on the REs!!!!

[@iniakpmarc28]

Good, informative, and interesting review lads. Now, how about the TRK502? Ride safe.

[@KnoxArmour]

Thanks for the feedback! Maybe in the future! Thanks, Aaron

[@nikos-giorgos]

Yup, made in China, just like most Bmw's. And Triumphs are made in Thailand...So...

[@matprolight]

Is d bike good for a person with 5. 7' height

[@IRide-vm6hz]

Yes

[@RICKYBAJWA1]

Thanks for the review. Can you please review IMPERIALE.

[@UncleWally3]

Perfect bike for the NC500? Coming from Canada, I was gobsmacked exploring the NC500, but was totally confused as to why the rental shops were pushing big Beemers, Africa Twins, boutique Ducs and the like . . . when all that’s needed are bikes like this. Should I ever return, and I dream of returning, I hope this bike is available. Am I wrong?

[@themightydash1714]

sadly in the UK bikes are... very much for posing on these days, they're a fashion, You really would have more fun on smaller lightweight bike rather than an armchair with cruise control, Kinda defeats the object using those bikes. I would love to do the NC500 on one of the new Royal Enfield 650s!

[@johnhill8529]

@@themightydash1714 I did the NC500 on a RE Interceptor. It was the perfect bike for the trip, light easy and comfortable. I find 500-650cc hit the sweet spot for me. I’ve been watching these videos because I’m seriously thinking of one of these.

[@photographerjonathan]

The Benelli bikes have nice style, but Is it dependable like a Japanese bike ? ( would you buy it ? ) how does it compare to a Honda 500F

[@gerry343]

That rear number plate arrangement looks a mess- hang it from the mudguard.

[@mark.e.p]

Just wondered if the rear number plate holder unbolts? It's pretty hideous to be fair a tail tidy would enhance the look no end.

[@nicolafertin3154]

I love the looks of the bike but heard reliability is 0,00

[@Thatsme849]

ay bruh sick bike my dudes

[@Bredaxe]

I thought they only made shotguns, go figure. The bike looks interesting, not sure about the Chinese made part though.

[@AridersLifeYT]

your phone comes from china, so does most computer parts, shoes and glasses.

[@themightydash1714]

These days China are probably one of the leading quality manufacturing countries.

[@Bredaxe]

@@themightydash1714 I'm not sure they would make the top 25 in the world but I'm sure they easily rank somewhere in the top 195. As far as stealing others trademarked designs, definitely number 1

[@stuartb1963]

@@themightydash1714 your very a funny guy

[@abhinavmane5153]

may u put review on Benelli leoncino and triumph trident ?

[@TheIcekake]

Looks like a really good bike! But, seems to me like 47 bhp is way too less for a 500, my 390 pumps 45 ish so an upgrade would definitely require more power. Probably good as a beginner bike, looks like it'll be a fun ride. But looks are defo a standout for the bike, a scrambler with lesser power is all I can say though.

[@Wr4thAPEX]

CB500F makes 47hp as well

[@pauld.b7129]

But your 390 will probably need the head gaskets changed at some point. They all do. KTM sacrifices reliability to have a higher power output. Generally speaking you make about 1 horsepower per 10cc for an engine not under high stress. So a 500 will make about 50, a 400 will make about 40 etc. Sportbikes usually make about 1hp per 5cc meaning the 1000 usually puts out about 200hp, but needs much more work to maintain since the parts are under much higher stress. So its pretty much what you'd expect from this bike, not being a sportbike

[@siddheshgharat6300]

I have a 390 cousin, the Bajaj Dominar, it's 20 kg heavier and 5 horses down on the KTM but I find it pretty good enough. Lower heat, better usability, good stability and overall easier to maintain.

[@johnastirzaker3109]

Benelli like all other manufacturers are targeting the A2 new licence holders with this model. A2 licence restricts you to 48 Bhp.

[@insi8107]

@@johnastirzaker3109 thats the point👍🏻

[@VictoriaStobbie]

No way, Know did a review on this little thing.

[@John-pe7ru]

This or the classic royal Enfield 500

[@johnDukemaster]

It really looks good! :-)

[@icantrideslow]

am I the only one who spotted at around the 1:40 beauty shots that this press bike has already been slid... what a shame really

[@Rhodri80]

Any chance you review the Imperiale 400

[@rehansardar4205]

Very nicely done! Would be great if you can please also review the new Leoncino 800 trail. Many thanks

[@insi8107]

My Wife love the 800 leoncino trail👍🏻the 500 is a little leo, but the 800 is a big Lion! Superb sound and a lot of power more😁

[@supertony4708]

This one is tubeless or tube type wheels? Many manuy thanks!

[@LucianC137]

How much mileage does it give?

[@KnoxArmour]

Hi, it would be around 180 miles ish. It has a 13.5ltr tank. Thanks

[@rogerkay8603]

Like it, new subscriber gained

[@KnoxArmour]

Welcome aboard!

[@gmsresinarodelcorso560]

Benelli number one

[@Ash-vm3ut]

I traveled 8500 mileage , a real pleasure. a very comfortable bike, very handy. Be careful, from these mileage the rear wheel adheres less

[@supertony4708]

Ash the wheels are tubeless or not? Thank you.

[@salilsapre7972]

how does it compare to the Royal Enfield twins?

[@KnoxArmour]

Hi Salil, totally different bike. The Leoncino feel lighter and a bit more eager. The Enfield is classier and a much more classic motorcycle and looks better. Depends what you want to do on a motorcycle? Thanks, Aaron Knox

[@ilhamsabirin4673]

Nice review.. according to some reviewers this bike pulls like it's bigger than 500cc.. do u agree?

[@KnoxArmour]

Hi, thanks glad you think so. I wouldn't say it pulls like its bigger than 500cc... it pulls cleanly and smoothly and is around 50hp, so its good performance for what it is, but saying its faster than it is is probably not reality. Hope that helps, Aaron KNOX

[@ilhamsabirin4673]

@@KnoxArmour alrite.. between this bike Honda Cb500f which one would u choose? And why

[@the_freedom_quest]

Best review of the leoncino I've seen until now, nice footage

[@krishnatejaaitha7197]

Nicely put together review!!

[@nischalg8369]

Which one would you suggest??? Leoncino or a Husqvarna Svarpilen / Vitpilen

[@KnoxArmour]

Hi Nischal, totally depends what you are looking for... the vitpilen/svartpilen will be much faster, it's almost 50kg lighter and 25hp more power and has much better specs... But it's around 40% more expensive here in UK. they are both great bikes, just depends what you want and what your budget is. Thanks Aaron Knox

[@nischalg8369]

Knox Armour @Aron - Personally even I liked the Svartpilen. Both of these bikes would be launched in India by end of this year. It looks like Leoncino would be priced higher than Svartpilen. The advantage we have for Svartpilen 401 is that it would be “Made in India” while Leoncino would be imported from China. Waiting for them to launch and then would do a test ride before buying one! If I don’t like either of them, then I might pick up the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650!

[@salsamancer]

great design, but I can't in good conscience support China imports. Move it back to Italy and I'll give it a fair consideration

[@ducanhnguyen1651]

What is the name of the bike in 1:04?

[@KnoxArmour]

Hi, its the Royal Enfield Classic 500 as per here kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqXQYaiPmNGFosk. Thanks, Aaron, Knox

[@abitofeverything2254]

How many gears is it fully automatic

[@KnoxArmour]

6 gears. Thanks, Aaron KNOX

[@abitofeverything2254]

@@KnoxArmour that's funny it's for sale in millennium and says fully automatic..🤔

[@todxbranko]

Thanks for listening!!

[@michals1108]

cool bike

[@deepakchandra6397]

Nice review guys.

[@KnoxArmour]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! Aaron KNOX

[@Tinmar_Isation]

Last time I heard an engine noise like that, I was blending bananas

[@rejiark2500]

No to china

[@hathaway.1166]

They may be made in china, but they're then shipped back to Benelli in Italy for QCs.

[@herunugroce1434]

Nice Bike👍

[@KnoxArmour]

Sure is!

[@techfactsbymohan6138]

In video, you have bent your knees too much, can you tell me what is your height.

[@tianstn2891]

also wondering about that.

[@a.g.rhithwik]

compare it with RE INT650

[@OverwatchPlaysGames147]

I have owned my Leonchino for a few months now and I have to say I am blown away by how much you get for your dollar! I had the cat removed and I think everyone should do this, the bike sounds amazing (though a touch loud for my liking) and really wakes up in the mid-high range. Great review guys!

[@KnoxArmour]

Hi, us too a really great bike for the money. Thanks for the feedback, glad you liked it!! Thanks Aaron

[@ivey77426]

How can you know "how much" really you're getting before knowing the reliability of these bikes (made by chinese)?

[@Velosirraton]

@@crispindry2815 Hold your horses Greta

[@douwe4549]

@@crispindry2815 its so bone dry its funny..

[@dnshable]

I am sad that this bike is not available where I live. Definitely an all round bike with a great exhaust sound. But I would love to hear your thoughts on the Husqvarna Svartpilen/Vitpilen 401 twins as well. They are probably in the same category.

[@Kamal67811]

This model will soon come to India for sure as its a Chinese made bike..

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

im just gonna come here form the corner, it cost as much as a cb500f. but its one spanking good looking cafe/scrambler!!!

[@stormtrooper9404]

Daniel well if you appreciate reliability and Honda’s badge over all than yes cb500f all the way. But if you like to feel a bit special,and not like some mug who stole a bike from a driving school... than Leoncino over cb500 any day ; )

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

@@stormtrooper9404 it looks nice, but my cb also rides really well and looks hella nice in the black

[@johnroberts6836]

I've watched this several times and still enjoy it. So much so I investigated the brand line up and then test road a TRK 502 as adventure style bikes are just me, Now I have of my own. In fact I can't wait for the 800 to hit our shores next year.

[@KnoxArmour]

Thanks great, thanks John! Aaron KNOX

[@Boleh888]

Sound character please...

[@misteradrenalina]

Beautiful bike, but it is not leoncino benelli..it's new bike made in Cina.

[@thomaselliott573]

Good to see someone sticking it up Triumph's overpriced, underspec'd offerings

[@jimmytheshark86]

Thomas Elliott WOW!

[@greenambles]

Excellent review, great clear photography and good sound! (I used to be a soundman briefly so notice such things!). Very comprehensive so thanks guys. Amazing views too, up to The Lakes this summer and will be checking out Surprise View, thanks. I've been looking at the Enfield GT 650 Twin but this has turned my head with your review (very different bike I know but whatever I get will be my only - and first...). I'll be riding urban mainly with the g/f on pillion but also looking to get out of town too of course. The Enfield a head-turner for looks, sound and heritage but this looks great too for different reasons, will still turn head with the styling (I'd be interested in what you think of the sound?) and in addition offers me the chance to improve as a newbie rider on green routes and off-road which I know will improve my riding all-round (I was looking at the BMW 310GS at one point).

[@mark.e.p]

I believe that RE will be bringing out a 650 scrambler but it could be a while. I demoed an Interceptor and was really impressed but I like to go 'off road' hence the appeal of the Benelli.

[@roycspary8923]

authentic Italian? what, name? well there goes your credibility its Chinese and we all know it so cut the cobblers, so we can believe the rest of what you say

[@piyushbisht1869]

3:05 "It's got Benelli for a name but it's got a Chinese motor, it's made in China, I can't even pronounce the name of the company that own it and make it." What oart of it do you not understand?

[@Velosirraton]

Also, most of the little bikes are actually manufactured in Asia, KTM manufactures its motorcycles in India, Honda does it in Thailand(even the 650's are manufactured there), etc. And the quality of the bikes will all depend on what the brand demands. Also, the Benelli Leoncino is designed in Pesaro but the manufacture is done in China.

[@douwe4549]

Yes they do make rubbish bikes in China.. They break down every 1000 miles or so.. you need to change the full synthetic! oil every 2500 miles otherwise it does chiiiina one last time.. but then again.. This company also ownes Volvo. I-phones and Samsungs are made for a big part in China.. and lots of Beamer and vw parts are made in China and so on.. So this could be a good bike but surely has some niggles.. But so do many European produced bikes and cars.. The best is Japanese.. still is! And there prices are more the fair, unlike for example Bmw wich are seriously over priced poser vehicles.. just my opinion