Benelli Rafaello Supersport

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[@nolandenton1224]

I have the Performance Shop 12 gauge with 30 in barrel. I love this gun. The Briley trigger is really sweet and the back boring and extended forcing cone makes for an even smoother and softer recoil, especially with the 6oz counterweighted forearm cap. My go-to choke is the Briley LM that comes with the gun. I shoot frequently with a Krieghoff owner and he usually shoots a couple of stations with my Benelli because he enjoys the feel and the cycling action. I don’t think these are made anymore but if you can get one second hand, I recommend it.

[@chrisgraham9203]

It is interesting to watch your recent review of this gun, as this has been my go to gun since I purchased one new in 2009. I think your review accurately describes the many strengths (and few weaknesses) of the gun. Yes, the plastic furniture is tacky, but does get the job done. As you probably know, there is a version of the gun (the Sport II) with wood furniture. And yes, the inertia cycling system (as well as the shell feed system) are both clever designs, and allow the gun to work very reliably with few parts and very little maintenance. And besides, the gun is load tolerant (down to light 1 ounce loads), handles well and also mitigates recoil very well. The icing on the cake is the large degree of stock adjustment that allows the gun to be fit to the shooter. I am going on 25 thousand rounds with mine, with zero problems and zero malfunctions.

[@lloydyp]

Chris Graham cheers Chris.

[@MrSweaterman76]

good to know, I am looking at getting a 20 gage for skeet and sporting clays, glad it works with 1 ounce loads... or was that just for the 12 gauge... sounds like a reliable machine... anyone with info on the 20 gauge...

[@MrSweaterman76]

looking to the performance center model...

[@DWhite-el4ih]

I have the Sport 2 for the sole reason that it comes with a walnut stock and fore-end and not the plastic. You simply can't beat a quality shotgun with quality wooden furniture. Love the gun. It was fussy with 1oz loads initially (the first time I had the gun out). Since then the recoil spring has broken in nicely and it shoots anything.

[@chrisgraham9203]

@@DWhite-el4ih I agree completely, except when having to compete when it is raining, or when it is blistering hot. Then it is nice not to have to worry about damaging pretty wood.

[@timeverett7828]

It's a cracking gun! The performance version with Briley accessories is an absolute jaw dropper! That inertia system was designed by a Scandinavian gentleman about 100 years ago... many different Firearms have been design with that inertia system. the cryogenic treated barrel on benelli's is worth mentioning also...

[@lloydyp]

no disagreement from me.

[@larrybassett5559]

Lloyd I ended up buying the Performance shop version with the Briley accessories and trigger job mainly on your recommendation. Thanks again for your honest no nonsense reviews. Love your channel and I really love my Super Sport!

[@lloydyp]

Thanks Larry,

[@larrybassett5559]

Still shooting it, in fact I sold my Beretta and Zoli O/U's. I primarily use it for Sporting and field shooting and a little Trap now and again. Love it, awesome piece.

[@rudigrest4013]

bought mine used , i have shot about 3000 shells from 21g to 28g top gun no problems

[@lloydyp]

Thank you.

[@timbacus9698]

I just picked up one of these, used in like new condition. I took it out this weekend and shot it for the first time. I had a little trouble with it on the Skeet field, shooting several clays below my average. My group then arrive and we went out to the Sporting Clays course. Wow did this gun shine! I shot my best score sporting ever. It was effortless. I highly recommend this gun.

[@larrybassett5559]

Thanks again Lloyd for another honest and insightful review. I am going to take look at one of these now.

[@lloydyp]

Thanks man 😀

[@SuperKwame1]

I just purchased one and waiting to use it!

[@lloydyp]

Hope you enjoy it

[@joeallison286]

I have the black matt version of this gun the CORDOBA same gun different finish and it has made my beretta A400 XTREME redundant, it is now my weapon of choice for clays and pigeons rough shooting

[@lloydyp]

same here with my M2

[@nikitamckeever5403]

A fan of Benelli since I got a 828U . Very well balanced and designed guns that are light with low recoil and shoot well . A New semi auto for Christmas , maybe 🤔 . Honest review , thanks 🙏

[@stefanmagyar4042]

Nice review video. I actually like the plastic furniture. It functions well, good grip, and no worries about chipping or cracking and I don't think it looks too bad. Not pretty but function over form.

[@Kornholeeoo]

Nice shotgun. I have a Montefeltro and an Ethos. This one is very similar to the Ethos. Both of mine shoot extremely well. Thanks for the video.

[@lloydyp]

Thanks for watching. 😀

[@paulscountry456]

Just bought one for 2000 us .Great review and demo.

[@lloydyp]

Thanks Paul.

[@Xnocturnus]

Fantastic review! I would go and get one tomorrow if semi-autos were permitted in our state.

[@lloydyp]

Which state is that man?

[@Xnocturnus]

Lloyd Pattison NSW Australia. Semi's allowed only in special circumstances, which is real pain in the a$$ 👎

[@wendywhales2310]

Fired one of these over the last few weeks.Cracking gun,Beautifully Balanced,I never missed on shots at the skeet field.Would Recommend this gun to anybody..Will get one when I can afford it..

[@lloydyp]

And did you?

[@wendywhales2310]

@@lloydyp yes I did.wouldn't swop for anything else.

[@lloydyp]

@@wendywhales2310 good to hear :)

[@ollieford5309]

@@lloydyp i love that you followed up on this comment 3 yrs later to check up. Llloyd you are a class act :)

[@lloydyp]

@@ollieford5309 thanks man. 👍🏼

[@smokinclays1777]

What a great honest review

[@lloydyp]

Thanks Mike.

[@smokinclays1777]

@@lloydyp Hi Lloyd, have you reviewed the SL80 passion.... Just debating at the moment what to buy, but the supersport is up there.

[@lloydyp]

@@smokinclays1777 I've never even heard of an SL80 passion. Who makes it?

[@smokinclays1777]

@@lloydyp its a Benelli, look to be really well priced at around a grand new, but not sure what to expect at that price..

[@Patrick-sw2qk]

Just picked one up after watching your review, have a Browning O/U bought this gun to mix things up. Really enjoy your review keep up the great work 👍🏻

[@lloydyp]

Thanks Patrick. Hope you enjoy it.

[@219garry]

You should have bought Tesla stock instead.

[@Patrick-sw2qk]

Gee purrs too late!😭

[@bretmcmurray7253]

Which browning ? And what’s better for skeet ?

[@Patrick-sw2qk]

@@bretmcmurray7253 I’m in the US so it’s a Citori CX 30 all around gun I shoot Trap and Sporting clays enjoy both guns Trap the Cutori clays a toss up the Benelli is just so nice

[@hitmanzaman556]

Excellent review as always Lloyd. I was wondering if you could please do a review of the Raffaello Accademia or the power bore deluxe, thanks.

[@lloydyp]

Noted, if I can get hold of one.

[@michaelfrost9896]

Ive got one, this is every gun you will need, it will eat anything, lovely to shoot, nice BANG!, sounds more like a rifle with the ported barrel I also have an A400 beretta, which is also amazing, But, for me, this just has the edge, very light, its even good for skeet!, but little or no recoil, shoot it all day, no problem

[@lloydyp]

Thanks for watching man.

[@T21-TwentyOneTrailers.]

thanks for all your opinions and for the time doing this vid. Btw, i would like to know ur opinion about: Fair ssx 12 semi-auto. Good shooting.

[@lloydyp]

Thank you

[@MrCabimero]

So what is the difference between this and the Ethos SuperSport? They look Identical.

[@joshguacamolean6959]

I bought a Supersport about 1 year ago, second hand. The gun is light and the balance is great but I find the trigger to be pretty bad. The creep in trigger is what ruins it for me. The weight of the pull isn’t that bad at 5.5 lbs.The trigger pull from my Remington 1100 with light pull sear spring is much crisper and lighter (3.75lbs). I suppose I expected it to be near perfect for a semi-auto at this price point. It does run extremely clean and has cycled everything I’ve thrown at it and has yet to malfunction. How does the trigger from beretta A400 compare to this Benelli?

[@lloydyp]

I think the pull on the benelli is a touch better, auto trigger are universally crap though.

[@StuartOliver83]

There's one of these at my local shop for £1500 and was really considering it but I chose the montefeltro instead which I've still not used hahaaa

[@lloydyp]

Get out on some ducks with it :)

[@StuartOliver83]

@@lloydyp if I ever get a day off that I can divide with wife and kids and a shoot then I definitely will,great review mate 👍🏻🇬🇧

[@rickc1798]

this with the walnut stock or the 828, what would you reccomend

[@StarD435]

I actually like the carbon fiber dip

[@lloydyp]

Someone has to I suppose.

[@dale_ch]

Lloyd - would you buy this Benelli Supersport model Gun for almost double the price you could pick up a nice Benelli M2? - this is my dilemma!

[@lloydyp]

There's an M2 in my cabinet right now Dale. I wanted a Raffaello but for what I needed it for, I couldn't justify the cost. Bear in mind it only gets used as a rough gun and does less than 250 shells a year, versus my clay gun that does 300 a week

[@dale_ch]

@@lloydyp What's your choice for your regular clay gun?

[@lloydyp]

@@dale_ch Perazzi High Tech S. 32"

[@dale_ch]

@@lloydyp Nice - except on the wallet! 😎

[@user-dk1sn9wy8j]

Hello friend, I am writing from Kazakhstan. I will soon buy a hunting weapon in 4.5 days. I am not a sportsman, I only go out to shoot game birds. Can I buy this super sport? Is it a strong gun?

[@lloydyp]

In short, yes.

[@radejankovic5161]

Hey Lloyd, supersport vs be diamond?

[@majorbarnett5153]

Hi Lloyd Great review can you tell me what is the difference between this and the m2. I picked up a friends m2 found it fitted like glove and could shoot 10 more clays out on a 50 bird compared to my browning 525 (which I do like BTW). It was unbelievably effortless and just so pointable. Needless to say I'm buying one and now just need to settle on model. Like the idea with rafaello where top section of receiver can be removed just a pity about that finish. What other models strip like this and have the m2 dimensions.

[@lloydyp]

Thanks major, the M2 is a great gun, I own one myself. Basically the Rafaello has ported barrel, optional comb inserts and recoil pads, extended chokes and of course the stainless receiver with the detachable section. Other than that it's the same gun.

[@Plainsimple67]

FABARM LS4, BERETTA A400 SPORTING EXCEL, OR THE WINCHESTER SX3 ULTIMATE SPORTING, WHICH ONE YOU WOULD GO WITH LIOYD?

[@lloydyp]

A400

[@Plainsimple67]

@@lloydyp 👍 thank you

[@myketheoneill]

@@lloydyp would you take this over the A400 though?

[@t4fiez]

Any thoughts on 30" barrel versus 28"?

[@lloydyp]

30" barrel on a semi auto makes for a long gun, remember the receiver adds a good bit of legth overall. Other than that it's personal choice, there is not better or best, it's just what you like.

[@t4fiez]

@@lloydyp Thanks!

[@DWhite-el4ih]

Agreed. This is a long gun. Mine BARELY fits in my safe.

[@_wimza_7983]

Hi there, ive owned my benelli power bore deluxe for past year and a bit now. It has a carbon fibre rib that has a tiny bit of play in it. Is this normal?

[@lloydyp]

I've seen it on others to be fair, has it always done it or developed over time?

[@_wimza_7983]

@@lloydyp i bought it from new and it has always had a bit of play, has never gotten worst. I put it down to it being carbon fibre and not steel?

[@lloydyp]

Yeah, the steel expands and contracts at a different rate.

[@_wimza_7983]

@@lloydyp i think i understand so this makes sense as its a semi auto single barrel so theoretically heats up twice as quick as a double barrel? I have just found online 'floating rib' which i think (hope) applies to my semi =) thanks for the speedy response and support it was me watching your video that landed me spending just over 2k on the powerbore =)

[@lloydyp]

Enjoy man.

[@williamrodriguez3077]

hello every few shots must be oiled and cleaned

[@lloydyp]

I disagree, I know the owner of this gun and he NEVER cleans it. Runs absolutely fine.

[@williamrodriguez3077]

Lloyd Pattison thanks

[@_wimza_7983]

Is that the same disassembly as the raffaello powerbore deluxe?

[@lloydyp]

No idea, never seen one sorry.

[@_wimza_7983]

@@lloydyp it is =) thanks for getting back to me

[@ChrisGalea76]

Is it good for bird shooting ?

[@lloydyp]

That's what I use mine for.

[@robbierice5613]

What does he mean it will shoot anything?

[@lloydyp]

He means: I tried a bunch of different cartridge weights through the gun and it cycled everything I gave it.

[@DogScreenTV]

What’s the recoil like for this? I’m a beginner just got my license

[@lloydyp]

I much prefer the recoil from inertia guns as its more direct than gas guns, however they are not to everyone's taste. If you say an o/u recoil is a 10 and an air rifle is a 1, a nice gas gun is a 6, this is a 6.5 - 7. Does that make sense?

[@DogScreenTV]

Lloyd Pattison yes it does, thanks! As I’m on the look out for my first gun the last thing I want to do is to have a big recoil

[@larrybassett5559]

@@DogScreenTV just to help you with reference I have several Remington 1100 gas operated shotguns. They are very soft shooting but I prefer the recoil impulse of the Super Sport. It seems quicker and over with were the gas gun has a longer recoil impulse that seems to last longer. Of course this is purely a personal perception on my part but there is a difference. I feel like my recovery time is quicker between shots with the Benelli.

[@DogScreenTV]

Larry Bassett thanks, how much did you pick it up for,

[@tuckerbloomfield9453]

Is this a good hunting shotgun

[@lloydyp]

Tucker Bloomfield I think it would make a great hunting gun.

[@kerrychicken1]

A buddy of mine has one. He’s doing very well with dove hunting with this gun. Very balance gun

[@silentnewhunter5765]

Price??

[@lloydyp]

Google??

[@davidcurtiswatts2378]

7:55 I presume you're shooting in England and yet you appear to be shooting American skeet rules - i.e. shouldering the gun before calling for the bird. English skeet rules are that one calls for the bird and then shoulder the gun as one would naturally do when Pheasant shooting. At least that's how it was when I shot as a kid in the seventies. Has something changed?

[@lloydyp]

David Curtis Watts www.cpsa.co.uk/userfiles/file/CPSA_Booklet_7.pdf See page 11 section 5.22.

[@davidcurtiswatts2378]

My question was "Has Something changed?" Clearly it has. This rule book that you offer was printed in 2011. I shot with my father at Bedford Gun Club (Then home of the British Open) and Flitwick Gun Club, from 1970 to about 1974. Before that I was a trapper at the Flitwick club. In all that time I never observed anyone shooting "American style" as it was then known and if any novice attempted to do so they were told that English Skeet, which may or may not have had a written form back then, required calling for the bird with stock lowered. That, at the time, was part and parcel of English Skeet. This American style was regarded as being too easy as well as unnatural. In fact, when I first started shooting, If I recall correctly, there was no station 8 at all. There was a double on station 4 and the extra bird was shot on station 7; usually from the low house. That changed around 1972 ish. So, Lloyd, clearly things have changed. You are not in error it would seem according to that rule book.. But it doesn't look elegant, I have to say, and furthermore it is not a change for the better. Well done the CPSA. Such a pity. Do you know when these present rules first came into being? I am planning to come home to England when I retire. But if they force me to shoot that way, I'll stick to the fields and my Gun Dog. Is it the same for sporting clays or just skeet? Anyhow, thank you for your kind response.

[@lloydyp]

I shoot sporting gun down, FITASC requires gun down, as does Olympic Skeet. I know many people who shoot ESK (English Skeet) gun down as if you read the sentence carefully it states " The gun position is optional prior to firing but at the point of firing, the gun must be seen to be in the shoulder" which I assume is to stop show offs from shooting from the hip.

[@davidcurtiswatts2378]

That's a relief. I didn't read it that carefully I must confess. Looks as though I will be shooting at someones club in England sometime soon. I might miss everything in sight but at least I can look okay doing it.

[@browningmaxus5360]

Crazy money for a semi auto, the m2 better value

[@lloydyp]

I have the M2 essential.

[@rodi5388]

I have the performance shop version of this shotgun and it is junk. It's been in for repairs twice already after only 600-700 shells through it. Totally unreliable, not to mention it suffers from the infamous Benelli Click that plagues many of these shotguns.

[@lloydyp]

I have never seen a "performance shop" gun in the UK so cant comment.