Beretta 92X Performance Open Division

[@richardalano261]

This is awesome! Thank you for sharing everything you do specially this race gun. I think you are the first to do an in-depth video on an Beretta 92X performance race gun using toni system components.

[@Steadfast_Collective]

You’re very welcome! Happy to help 🙏

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

So cool

[@Steadfast_Collective]

Ty sir 🙏

[@biellaRR]

Toni System has Just released a new slide racker for the 92x performance rear sights dovetail

[@johnmininni5600]

Beretta 92 x best gun in dhe word . 👍🏼👍🏼👌

[@ByronBeretta]

I’m going to have to build one of these soon :D Very nice.

[@Steadfast_Collective]

Do it! 🙌🏼

[@elcid4593]

That gun looks fucking awesome!!

[@Steadfast_Collective]

Thanks! 🙏

[@edbigtruck]

The gun looks awesome with all the blue

[@stclairstclair]

It looks like a pimp threw up on it, I see that he could out shoot me in a minute but damn....

[@Uncleprepper1]

Beautifully done.

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

This is awesome! I remember wanting to do this a few years ago when I was looking at open… but no one made a barrel for 9 maj/ 38sc. I wonder if 38sc would be too long for those mags though… either way… awesome build my dude 👍🏻

[@timsymonds2878]

S&J Customs SJC racker for the M&P Core 2.0 is the only option I've found that works and is what I use on my 92x open rig. I also found that the grip tape on the Toni grips wears off quickly so I took it off and then filled the recesses with silicon carbide and also added some on the gas pedal. much improved grip and durability.

[@Steadfast_Collective]

Dude, thank you! Haven’t been able to find someone to make a slide racker. Did it fit the 92x performance? Or just a standard 92x ?

[@timsymonds2878]

Fits the Performance. Mine is set up same as yours for open.

[@JAMARTIN2]

This is great to hear!! Have been looking for one myself. Thank you!!!!!

[@JAMARTIN2]

@@timsymonds2878Ordered the M&P core 2.0 racker for my 92x performance and it's way to narrow 😭 are you sure it's the core or was it the M&P standard? called SJC and spoke to the owner. He says the M&P standard dovetail is alot wider. Maybe its that one? Could really use your help if it works. Been busting my ass trying to get a racker for the 92xp with no luck.

[@timsymonds2878]

Went back into my emails from when I ordered and it definitely says it’s for the Core. Can measure mine with calipers when I get home and will post up the measurements here for anyone who needs it. That’ll also give you something to verify with if you call up SJC to order one.

[@Thabosshoss]

Cool looking piece! Can I get mine in red?

[@austintrapletti]

Beautiful, what do you use for a holster with everything on it?

[@eugchoi82]

Very nice build! One question I have is whether the locking block can handle the force of a 9 major round.

[@Steadfast_Collective]

Very good question. I recommend replacing the locking block every 5,000-10,000 rounds.. if using 9 major. It’s unfortunate but its just the nature of the barrel design

[@LVbibby]

Utterly gorgeous thanks for the video. Can you point us toward the US Toni Systems distributors? Was this build sub 3k all in other than mags?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

Thank you 🙏 so Christiansen Components has a good deal of the components. That would be about what I would estimate on cost

[@ipsc-guru]

Thanks for making and sharing this video. Why did you choose the open Beretta, over, for example an open 2011, i.e. pros/cons? Thanks.

[@Steadfast_Collective]

Mostly because I shoot for Beretta. But also this is unique and can be built out of a platform you already have

[@OneDollarGentleman]

Hey great vid, cheers. What holster are you using there? I’m getting pretty much the same gun soon and already have the Beretta ghost holster. But I was told by the shop it may not work with the gun with the red dot frame etc?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

I was using a ghost holster I modified. I wouldn’t recommend it.. the fit was not very good. I would recommend getting the Guga Ribas or a Double Alpha race holster

[@Luimoin]

@@Steadfast_CollectiveI have DAA Alpha holster and beretta 92x with the Toni system mount won’t work with the Beretta 92 Insert

[@Steadfast_Collective]

@@Luimoin darn! That’s too bad

[@jefelazo88]

Did you use a shop, or recommend one, that can piece it all together? Or did you do all of the work yourself?

[@ruili83]

Does your single action trigger come with the adjustment set screw? The gun only comes with the adjustment screw for the over travel. I wonder whether the SAO trigger comes with pre travel screw that can be put in the upper hole in the frame.

[@Steadfast_Collective]

It does not come with it but I installed one

[@ruili83]

@@Steadfast_Collectivecool. Is it M2.5 size set screw?

[@lionelroland6674]

Gorgeous gun son! How much you paid for the comp?$

[@aaronli8362]

Hi Cameron, I was able to find the Toni compensator, but cannot find the extended rod for it… is there a specific name I should be searching for this rod that matches the compensator for 92x performance?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

The compensator comes with the extended rod! For some reason Toni Systems doesn’t explain that

[@paddypibblet846]

What holster do you use? And how well does it work with standard 115g bulk ammo? I've competed in Prod and CO with my Berettas and would love to have a go at Open with a Beretta as well.

[@Steadfast_Collective]

I tried using a Ghost Holster setup and that just didn't work... I believe the Guga Ribas open holster seems to work pretty well. Honestly, I have not had much time to mess around with my open gun lately

[@HarryRott]

Hi! I built now the same (shame on you ;-)), but struggle with the holster. Did you find in the meantime a holster that works with this setup?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

Sorry to be a bad influence! I honestly have not been able to spend much time on this platform with my competition schedule

[@HarryRott]

@@Steadfast_CollectiveWell, I purchased the Guga Riba. With the flat match trigger it works well

[@michaelmcclure9350]

Did somebody round off that trigger guard? Hi Cindy, you have to reply the coding the entire frame to get it to match up color wise

[@Steadfast_Collective]

It comes rounded on the performance!

[@modernamericanrimfireserie3481]

Do you know any custom shop that will built an open Beretta like yours?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

There are none that I can think of at the moment.. it’s not super difficult to do on your own

[@muaythai193]

Will those parts fit on M9A4 & standard 92X as well?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

with the exception of the magwell yes!

[@muaythai193]

@@Steadfast_Collective thanks!

[@Marksman4520]

I just installed the mag well and the magazine adapter on the factory mags. And the mags sit so tight. Its like the mag well is holding it up. I have tried everything to fix it. Any thoughts.

[@Steadfast_Collective]

Are you using Toni Systems baseplates? This magwell works the best with those

[@Marksman4520]

@@Steadfast_Collective yes I am.

[@ericduenas6154]

I want to put that compensator on my m9a4. Will I need a new recoil spring?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

You will need an extended recoil guide rod. The compensator comes with one in the box!

[@aaronli8362]

How about the Trigger? I found the single action trigger that looks like your gun on the beretta website but it's only the trigger i think? did you have the Xtreme-S Trigger Group for 92? Would you mind linking the single action trigger?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

I used the single action only trigger from beretta! The 92x performance already has the extreme-S trigger kit!

[@AnthonyGarcia-qr7px]

Does it make any difference using standard 9mm vs major with that compensator?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

Yes. It seems to function better with hotter loads but it still works with minor.

[@Gabierama]

What number of recoil spring and hammer spring did you used?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

8lb recoil spring and I’m currently experimenting with a 18lb hammer spring

[@tomt.4608]

How many rounds would you say you have shot using major pf ammo? Did the barrel's company say how many rounds using major it should last? Also, you seemed to imply that you don't only shoot 9mm major. Why wouldn't you shoot major if you are using an open gun?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

The barrel should hold up just as long as any other major PF rated barrel. The locking block on the other hand may need to be replaced over extended use. Steel Challenge does not have PF requirements. That’s why I shoot minor loads as well

[@aaronli8362]

Also! Would my m9a3 threaded barrel work with the compensator shooting majors? What was the barrel you were mentioning in the video? Thanks a lot in advance!

[@Steadfast_Collective]

I can’t give you a definite answer on using the standard m9a3 barrel. I know people have however it’s not rated for 9 major. I got my barrel from Jarvis Custom. When you order it be sure to let them know it’s for a compensator and not a suppressor

[@aaronli8362]

Thanks!!!

[@aaronli8362]

Follow up question: I’m ordering thru Jarvis site: it is asking in barrel options if I need a “lock blocking kit” do I need this? Also for beretta factory compensator I chose no so I’ll just tell them it’s a Toni system compensator? Thanks!

[@Steadfast_Collective]

@@aaronli8362 let them know it’s for a Toni systems, you can use a the standard locking block from a normal barrel

[@aaronli8362]

Thanks, for all your help! Really appreciate it!

[@JimmyBoomTron]

Is there a chrome barrel option?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

I’m not sure from Jarvis. Barsto does

[@aaronli8362]

Another question: what holster do you use for this? Thanks!

[@Steadfast_Collective]

I was using a friends holster and then I makeshift a ghost holster to try to get it to work. I would not recommend either options. I would look into the Guga Ribas open holster

[@aaronli8362]

Thanks for the fast response!@@Steadfast_Collective

[@Luimoin]

@@Steadfast_CollectiveHave you tried Guga Rigas with the Toni mount? I was very inspired with your video and am building one myself and transferring to Open. I’m struggling to find a holster.

[@Entrepreneur4Class]

❤

[@joeyassyrian]

Have you experienced any issues with extraction? I've read that this model is prone to eventual issues with extraction usually remedied by wilson combat extra power extraction springs but sometimes not.

[@Steadfast_Collective]

I was running into a problem where the slide was simply moving too fast and not allowing enough time for the case to fully extract. I increased the hammer spring to slow the slide down and that seems to have helped. To be honest I have not spent a lot of time on this gun since I filmed this video. Other divisions have taken priority

[@joeyassyrian]

@@Steadfast_Collective Interesting, not considering it for open, just carry optics, wa slooking at this and the shadow 2. Would still like to get my hands on one to see the differences in recoil with the shadow 2 but the extractor problem was also holding me back.

[@Steadfast_Collective]

@@joeyassyrian I have had no issues with my standard 92x performance CO guns and I have quite a few now 👍🏼

[@joeyassyrian]

@@Steadfast_Collective Great, leaning towards the 92 now because of the rebate and i have 2 LTTs already.

[@Maddenoutdoors]

Are you running 9maj out of it?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

@@Maddenoutdoors yup!

[@Maddenoutdoors]

@ I’m looking to do that next year! Been wanting to try open for a bit but not dive into a total 2011. Had any barrel problems? I have been looking at KKM& Barsto but may have to give them a chance too!

[@Steadfast_Collective]

@ I think you should be good to go with either barrel! You’ll definitely have to change the locking block more frequently with 9 major

[@hawaiinsurferx]

Do these mods work on the defensive version of this gun?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

Negative. The defensive model does not have a rail. That is needed for the mount

[@hawaiinsurferx]

Anything to do about the defensive version to be able to mount it?@@Steadfast_Collective

[@Steadfast_Collective]

@@hawaiinsurferx unfortunately not. This mount requires a rail

[@gudelauneee]

Cz shadow 2 or beretta 92x p?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

I shot a shadow 2 before I switched to beretta. To me, nothing compares to the recoil impulse of the beretta platform

[@gudelauneee]

@@Steadfast_Collective i like the Design of the beretta. I think they shoot both same accurate.

[@stclairstclair]

I'm skeptical on the validity of the compensator, As an older Trap shooter we would always laugh at the value of a ported barrel or having a barrel ported "It makes the gun a lot louder and a bitch to clean, that's about it" And why not use slide mounted optics? they have come a long way overcoming the problems of mounting to a Beretta slide.

[@Steadfast_Collective]

Open division in USPSA requires “Major” power factor scoring. So 9mm major or 38 super. In which case a compensator and a red dot that is not attached to a reciprocating slide does make a huge difference.

[@stclairstclair]

@@Steadfast_Collective Is 9mm major a reference to +P+ ammunition?

[@Steadfast_Collective]

@@stclairstclair no, it’s round to achieve major power factor scoring in USPSA. So over 1350* fps for a 124g 9mm projectile

[@stclairstclair]

@@Steadfast_Collective OK, that makes your first response completely understandable, Opticts would not fare well under those conditions.

[@Steadfast_Collective]

@@stclairstclair haha nah. This is a great article explaining it better than I can: americanhandgunner.com/discover/whats-9-major/

[@balalunga1]

Hs anyone their slim grips?

[@kyleharmse5968]

Curses. Putting together an M9A3 Open gun with all the Toni trimmings and the lack of SRO compatibility for the optic mount is a real bummer. Running slide-ride in the meanwhile

[@The.Chewycookie]

Hay sexi

[@Steadfast_Collective]

Oh heyyyyy

[@Philmoscowitz]

So dumb. But fit for the circus.

[@rustyshacleford5844]

Leave it to this generation to fuck up perfection.😂😂😂

[@masterhaterbater5927]

My god that looks horrendous 🤢