Bernard Wiseman

[@SamuraiSnake]

Bernard Wiseman; voiced by the legendary David Hayter a.k.a the legendary Solid Snake. Bernie is very wise. "Don't hate the enemy. They are just simply doing what they think is right."

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Really? He sounds so super young here

[@thelegendmaster3935]

War.... has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines. War--and it's consumption of life--has become a well-oiled machine. War has changed. ID-tagged soldiers carry ID-tagged weapons, use ID-tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control, information control, emotion control, battlefield control…everything is monitored and kept under control. War…has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control, all in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction, and he who controls the battlefield, controls history. War…has changed. When the battlefield is under total control, war becomes routine.

[@fungalfan99]

i prefer the original voice cuz i watched the original, but the dub voice is pretty good too

[@ikagura]

That quote could be from MGS.

[@Menaceblue3]

@@ikagura Metal Gear Solid VI War in the pocket By Hideo Kojima

[@ルルルカピル]

Letter read by Alfred 10 years later in DVD commercial. "Lately I remember. The day I saw Zaku for the first time, the battle I couldn't stop. Bernie, I will never forget." Letter read by Alfred in cm on Blu-ray, a further 18 years later. "I still have dreams even now. I don't believe in fate, but it wasn't all that sad. Bernie, I haven't forgotten you."

[@nerdorama009]

"We're not tools of the government, or anyone else." "Uh, Dave? Wrong script."

[@thelegendmaster3935]

Outer Heaven what is this Peace Walker finale

[@AthelstanKing]

grey fox says that

[@nerdorama009]

@@AthelstanKing And Snake quotes it back to Raiden in 2.

[@TheBlacknoah]

"Who's Dave, Colonel?"

[@M94482]

War in the Pocket? More like FEELS in the Pocket.

[@chriscueva1866]

More like PTSD the anime!

[@thelegendmaster3935]

@@chriscueva1866 Nonononno It's Wow Cool Robot The Anime

[@samurai90x]

more like punch in the gut, i'm not crying people just won't stop cutting onions.

[@thelegendmaster3935]

@@samurai90x People didn't get the context

[@chheinrich8486]

⁠@@samurai90xthe entire universal,century is at one point or another the „punch in the gut“ anime, even zz get really dark in its second half

[@comixproviderftw_02]

“Say hi to Chris.” 😉 God, if he only knew.

[@domingorubies656]

He’d forgive her, Bernie is all Heart

[@chazpeay7467]

I think Bernie knew. He wasn’t worried about killing her because he knew he wasn’t gonna survive

[@McShaggswell]

This is what Solid Snake sounded like before he started smoking cigarettes.

[@ruizj2006]

When he was still green

[@thelegendmaster3935]

What a thrill With darkness and silence through the night What a thrill I'm searching and I'll melt into you What a fear in my heart But you're so supreme! I give my life Not for honor, but for you Snake eater In my time there'll be no one else Crime, it's the way I fly to you Snake eater I'm still in a dream, snake eater! Someday you go through the rain Someday you feed on a tree frog This ordeal, the trial to survive For the day we see new life! I give my life Not for honor, but for you Snake eater In my time there'll be no one else Crime, it's the way I fly to you Snake eater I'm still in a dream, snake eater!

[@fungalfan99]

@@thelegendmaster3935 solid snake isnt in msg3

[@thelegendmaster3935]

@@fungalfan99 That's Big Boss Formerly Naked Snake

[@apostlenik809]

So, when he was a test tube embryo?

[@MPaoWord90]

No matter how many times I watch this, it still brings me to tears. This clip alone does what every other Gundam has failed to do in its anti-war message and I love this series for that. I love how it doesn't rely on melodramatic MS fights to show the tragedy of war and that the battles that do happen only help emphasize how tragic and pointless war is.

[@kaiserdashawn5219]

Mpaoword well said man

[@Solipsismreal]

7 year comment knows the kino.

[@cosmickarmaa]

You can praise 0080 without shitting on other series they are great in their own right just like this one is

[@amuroray9115]

UC Gundam all do this

[@apollo9288]

>still believing that gundam is still anti war >first series is literally just saying its your choice on how the mess of war is decided and that there is no good answer

[@monkbop8044]

Kills my ass every time. And he never finds out Chris is the Gundam pilot. This series is too underrated. Always will be

[@justinbooth5056]

War in the pocket is the Citizen Kane of anime

[@KnightShadowsong]

I believe that later in life as an adult Al tells everyone what Bernie Did, and the side actually builds a monument to him. not because he was a Zion or anything political, But because he fought and through his actions, tried to save the colony. Short definition of a Hero honestly. I think I also read somewhere that Al did eventually become a Mobile suit pilot as well.

[@Drocks0]

In the version I watched is was pretty heavily implied he connected the dots. He sees her get escorted out of the cockpit, and has a breakdown/thousand yard stare, then sees her at the end when she's being transferred. Even tells him to say bye to Bernie since she couldn't see him before leaving. Then he starts almost crying so she kisses him on the cheek. Think it was basically implied she knew Bernie was the other pilot by that moment

[@NoOne-us9xv]

@@Drocks0 I'm pretty sure he meant Bernie never knew Chris was the Gundam pilot. Al definitely knew, they make a whole thing out of him reacting to her having been pulled from the cockpit. There's really no two ways about that.

[@alcalshel]

​@@KnightShadowsongPretty sure side 6 has been destroy by Titans. So it's doesn't matter anyway.

[@Ginga]

I just watched War in the Pocket last night and Bernie is definitely my favorite pilot in any universe now. He is the definition of a tragic hero. He didn't owe anyone in the colony anything but he fought bravely for them. What he lacked in skill, he made up for in resourcefulness.

[@eduardoalvarez4457]

a few years too late, but decapitating a Gundam with a simple Zaku requires a lot of skills!

[@ghostttriddder]

​@@eduardoalvarez4457And its no ordinary Gundam, its the Gundam Alex which will replace the OG 78 2 Amuro has since Amuros piloting skill surpassed the og gundam limitations.

[@retrospector04]

That's Enough to make a grown man cry

[@berserk322]

For real

[@retrospector04]

@@berserk322 Yeah Fr Man He's My One Favorites pilot From Gundam

[@abdurrahman363]

This anime and clannad made me cry

[@deathnyx]

The best heroes are always the tragic ones. RIP Bernie. You won't be forgotten.

[@KnightShadowsong]

Canonically he saved a lot of lives. I think the Coloney also built a monument to him later when Al (as an adult) revealed the evidence from his package.

[@mahwiiiife408]

"Don't hate the gundam pilot or the Federation soldiers" this is the heart of modern War. Nobody goes to war because they're evil and want to kill people. They're all just trying to protect something.

[@MarvinT0606]

The real saviour of Zeon, preventing Amuro from murking Char late in the OYW

[@johngavin3180]

Bernie was just a soldier, not a tool of the government or anyone else, fighting was the only thing he knew... at least he fought for what he believed

[@ziljin]

This episode makes me cry everytime i watch it or think about Bernie.

[@thepronoob4039]

Honestly, Bernie very well might have saved Al's life. Not because he stopped a nuke or destroyed the Gundam. But by showing him that, war fucking sucks. If Al didn't meet or form a bond with Bernie he probably would've joined the military during the Neo Zeon wars and probably would've died a nameless soldier. But now? Now that he's seen the older brother that he never had get killed by the older sister figure in her life? I don't think he'll ever get near a mobile suit or even the military ever again. I like to believe that Al became a political activist or maybe even a politician. Just so that he could find a peaceful way to stop wars. And that he had taken Bernie's words to heart, that he shouldn't hate and that everyone on all sides are just humans trying to do what they think is right.

[@giornogiovannatheultimateb8553]

Yes

[@time4manmode945]

I can see Al being in that role during unicorn

[@NoOne-us9xv]

I mean, if I wanted to be a pedantic ass I could say there's no guarantee Al would've been killed in combat, but you have a really good point either way. Even if we wanted to take that tack, just sparing Al the horror of experiencing war on the frontlines, as a soldier, was doing him a great service. Al's whole experience in 0080 can basically be summed up with "war is really cool, until it isn't". Bernie helped him to understand that. That's his legacy, really.

[@Globalnet626]

Knowing how grimdark UC can get, there's a good chance that Al was part of the protests for spacenoid autonomy against the titans.. You know... In Banchi of Side 1...

[@thepronoob4039]

@@Globalnet626 it's unlikely since he's in a different colony and it's not that easy to go between them especially when Al's just a highschooler when the Gryphs conflict started

[@2ethefirst318]

This is one of the greatest anti-war films, because it takes the brave step towards making sure the audience knows how futile it all is. Not only is Bernie’s death unnecessary, but Al loses all his friends in the process (grown distant from school friends and Chris left to earth). Then the final shot with its zoom out from the colony really nails home that this was just, one tiny side story, tangential to the war that ultimately had no bearing on the war’s progress at all.

[@kuronyra1709]

Dramatic Irony, Tragedy, Humour, that OAV had it all. And it will be foreved one of my favorite piece of media ever watched. Rest in Peace Bernie, you may have died a futile death. But you will be remembered among the Legends. Not bad for a rookie.

[@thesaltyweeb]

Bernie: "Al I'm most likely gonna die..." Gundam G Generation: "NOT ON OUR WATCH! SAVE HIM CHAR AND GATO!"

[@justinbooth5056]

This scene always destroys me, I hope I can make something this well written before I die.

[@davidh.2377]

I was watching this my room crying like a little girl with this emotional scene. Remember, this was on cartoon network shortly after 9/11 and so the concept of war was upfront and new to 4th/5th grade year old me. My parents thought I was struggling with math homework.

[@Robocopnik]

Reminds me of a different 'final message' - "Is there such thing as an absolute timeless enemy? There is no such thing and never has been. And the reason is that our enemies are human beings like us. They can only be our enemies in relative terms. The world must be made whole again."

[@mkaplan1383]

Joy...

[@zethrenbeltran4071]

War in the pocket will always be the best gundam show.

[@officialFredDurstfanclub]

“And hey, if I survive this thing, let’s go out for Hamburgers! Bring Chris along too!”

[@giornogiovannatheultimateb8553]

Ironically *he never survived it*

[@leo11lim]

Rip Bernie’s Japanese voice actor.

[@CyberFenix000]

Well, I cried

[@linuxblacksarena]

Bernie, what happened? Bernie, are you there? Bernie? Bernie?! BERNIE!!!!!

[@StillJohnDoe]

DA DA DA DA DAAAAAAAAA DA DA DA!!!!!!!!

[@thegoodwin]

"Time paradox"

[@thelegendmaster3935]

"A weapon to surpass Metal Gear."

[@chinquecfro44]

The situational irony b/w Bernie and Chris is nerve wrecking.

[@Quackerilla]

Say hi to Chris.

[@StrikeFreedom78]

That recording was like a foreshadowing of Bernie's demise at the hands of the Gundam Alex. That Gundam OVA was one of the most heart-wrenching and emotional side stories of the Universal Century timeline.

[@justinbooth5056]

this is actually the final shot of the anime which is why it hurts so much, he recorded this knowing it was his last message

[@slyngn7847]

Gundam 0080: War in a Pocket has got to be the most heartbreaking Gundam series I've seen so far 😢

[@steel749]

Poor Bernie At least he took on Gundam Alex with just a heat hawk. Not even Kampfer did that

[@Animeniacreviews]

A weapon to truly surpass the gundam

[@zerochan1913]

Not even kamfer get close to it

[@boxtank5288]

Not only that but HE BEAT IT. Sure it cost him his life but he completed the mission (albeit he never knew that the fight no longer needed to be done)

[@KnightShadowsong]

@@boxtank5288 I think there was an addition at the end of a manga or something about this series, but as an adult Al reveals the truth to Christina (the Gundam's pilot) and they write a book about what happened doing the incident. After it's release the colony actually builds a monument to Bernie, they dont factor politics or anything like that in when they do it the only did it because Bernie gave up his life for the colony. it's really a driving force that shows that well Zion might have been run by space Nazi's. there were decent people.

[@NoOne-us9xv]

In fairness, the Kampfer just kind of had a shit matchup with the Alex. For being as cracked as the Kampfer is, it's legitimately less durable than a generic Zaku, since all the emphasis was put on speed and maneuverability. Mikhail charges in, thinking the worst he's got to deal with might be some head vulcans, having no idea there are gatling guns built into the arms. If he'd known about that, he likely would've approached it very differently. As much as I love 0080, I'll always find that fight scene kind of disappointing. I wanted to see the Kampfer actually do something before it inevitably gets ripped to pieces, especially when 0080 handles its combat so well. What a missed opportunity.

[@alfonszitterbacke318]

Hamburger. mhm. A young pilot of average ability in a universe of superhumans, space nazis and hamburgers. Stood against a gundam MK.2 with nothing but a damaged Zaku and almost no ammo. If you watch the scene 1000 times the ending will change.

[@ikagura]

Why does he remind me of Doan in a way? Well the other way around as I watched WitP first.

[@Herald_of_Perfection]

Mk2? ALEX is massively outclassed by MK2, what are you talking about?

[@Herald_of_Perfection]

If hamburger man fought MK2, he’d die with one shot.

[@marcoa6319]

While many would see this scene as sad, I’d like to see it in a heartwarming light. While Bernie seemed insignificant compared to other Gundam characters, he gives Al and the audience the message about not hating your enemies. He recognizes that there would always be good people somewhere in the “evil” side. I hope that Al could take those words to heart and find some peace.

[@suiken3149]

I would be terrified if I saw something like "Bernie's Hamburger" in the streets.

[@nickirmen6671]

One time on the way home from getting Fried Chicken for my family I saw a really awful crash where two huge SUVs collided and flipped in seconds and I felt like I was going to puke rather than eat

[@kaiserdashawn5219]

Best ms gundam show series In my opinion

[@kagesentai]

can't hold my feelings.... ... ... ... ... and my burger...

[@comradefreedom8275]

I cry everytime.

[@HenryClavo]

In the end, He did beat the Gundam by taking the head. Watch December Sky.

[@gpanthony]

Any Gundam with its head unit destroyed is DISQUALIFIED

[@rcmaurice]

it's 24 Dec. RIP Bernie

[@21stcenturyschizoidmana29]

Maybe the reason why david hayter is not in MGSV is because he doesn't want to deal with miller burger.

[@SeoulMan]

Better yet, he gets to be Zangetsu in Bloodstained

[@SpecialAgentRavage]

Thanks for posting this. I'm going to use it for a theatre class. RIP Bernie

[@johnsonzx]

I'm a man and this moment made me cry.yeah...I said it.

[@aschen]

i never realized this was david hayter back when i watched it 25 years or so ago. holy shit.

[@KrishnaDas-fg3sr]

At least now I know I'm not the only one on the verge of tears, WAR IS BAD

[@Sturmdude]

After learning who this voice actor was, every time I see Bernard Wiseman die I say "Snake? Snake! SNAAAAAAAAAKE!"

[@thelegendmaster3935]

They Played Us Like A Damn Fiddle!

[@DLAbaoaqu]

I once had a good old comrade, He was always at my side. When the call to arms was sounded, We both marched with hearts unbounded , In perfect pace and stride. A bullet came a-flying, Was it meant for him or me? In an instant he was swept away, In an instant in the dust he lay, So cold and stiff at my feet. As I restocked my rifle, He extended me his hand. I can’t stop the fight to hold your hand, Go on now to where life never ends, You’ve earned it, dear old comrade.

[@ecru_5819]

this shit still hurts me - he was so nice,,,

[@cynicalcharclone5894]

I’ll never look at my burger the same way ever again... :’(

[@thricegreatart]

Why is he so perfect?

[@PlayStationVision123]

He is David Hayter

[@extraleague01]

We all know Al will never hate the Gundam pilot. So sad ChrisxBernie ended in such manner...

[@ReflectionOfPerfection]

"Hal, okay...listen carefully." *codec goes off* "Excuse me Hal....Colonel, what are your orders?"

[@animatoraoi3672]

“Guess I do anything I want”

[@thelegendmaster3935]

@@animatoraoi3672 LIQUID!!!!!

[@dominicgosselin4611]

You know, the thing I like the most about this beautiful OAV Series is that, unlike too many Gundam series, this show’s anti-war message is delivered through ACTUAL regular people and normal army officiers and they REMAIN this way until the very end. Al start the story as a naive child and finish as a now broken one; Chris is simply a test pilot at the beginning and while she gets promoted it’s clearly not an overly big one; and Bernie start as a inexperimented, disposable rookie among a team of equally disposable soldiers anddie while still nothing more than that. It’s a kind of down to earth type of story I honestly wish to see more in the Gundam Franchi, at least from war I’ve seen now (MSG, Zeta, ZZ, Char’s CC, War in the Pocket, F91).

[@eamonndeane587]

I'm really annoyed that War in the Pocket hasn't been given a UK Blu Ray Release yet.

[@Comangeit]

What?!?! Metal Gear...I mean Gundam!! It is so weird the first time I watched this OVA I never realized it was David Hayter who voiced Bernie, till I looked it up a year after I watched the OVA.

[@ducanhluu2697]

Someone in the end in 2019 found out Bernie action of demolishing the Gundam Alex helped Zeon to last their war longer. By saving Char from Amuro for keeping the Alex not delivered to the guy, Bernie silent death has indirectly kept the living torch of Zeon, Char Azanable, alive. Thus, encouraging the Zeon to continue fighting, despite failing from time to time against Earth federation, even to a hundred year later

[@Schwenakasven]

If he Saved Char Indirectly with it, Then bernie Wiseman is even a more greater Character as he was before. because Char Aznable is such a good Character too.

[@fryanne9750]

Thank you boss, WE LIVE AND DIE BY YOUR ORDER, BOSS!

[@59Shilo]

ARGH METAL GEAR!?!?!?! IT CAN'T BE!

[@NoelComiX]

Snaaaaaake

[@thelegendmaster3935]

He mentioned something interesting, Cypher is pursuing new research. He claims what they're doing in Africa is the missing piece, a weapon to surpass metal gear.

[@sunnyfz4100]

I just finished War in the pocket, and then this video just popped up in my recommendation :( Bernie

[@BowlofIndoMee]

I hope Unicorn pay tribute to all these ova characters and the battles they fought

[@kiryusannagi5171]

Sadly it isn’t

[@movingtarget2977]

Go Watch Build fighters it makes them better and happily live after

[@djRumHam]

Feel the bern

[@lupvirga]

and the METAL GEAR

[@kaiserdashawn5219]

Wish there were more gundam series like this

[@chheinrich8486]

Bernie is really is a tragic hero, his fight with the Alex prevented it from getting shipped to amuro which saved chars live in the final battle of the original anime, which in turn made the rest of the universal century, for better and for worse, possible

[@itscarlosreally]

SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!

[@harrisonlee9585]

I'm not crying, y'all are crying. Stop looking at me.

[@zildbenitez538]

The bad thing is chris and Bernie didn't know who were they fighting

[@dchris1990]

dammit Bernie why couldn't you have just gone and delivered the information to the Federation... :,( why did you have to risk your life and the Gundam's pilot in a stupid meaningless fight.... I can understand his reasons. he explicitly tells us them. It's still so sad to realize he died

[@biterness2323]

I know this is an old comment but Bernie was insecure about his military accomplishments since he was a rookie and he wanted to be a hero that is probably why he kept lying to Al about his supposed achievements of almost becoming an ace and probably why he joined the army in the first place. On top of that he was the sole survivor from his crew. I bet he would have still fought even if there wasn't a nuclear attack threat on the colony just for the sake of being a soldier and honouring himself and his dead comrades. He died like a warrior because he didn't want to live on as a coward.

[@ualarga]

@@biterness2323 well even at the end he said that if everything goes right, maybe he'll hang out with everyone and live peacefully, it was just a small little thought that crossed his mind; i see it as if he had a tiny bit of hope that everything would turn out ok, even if that was extremely unlikely, he still had some hope. Turns out it just wasn't in the cards...

[@personwhoplaysgamesforfun7985]

Late ass reply but he was probably planning on escaping to Zeon controlled territories after destroying the gundam, as such he had no intentions in turning himself in and relied on Al in doing this task for him.

[@texhno7909]

Goat

[@madcat4563]

Is that you snake? It's like one of my Japanese animes.

[@jaunmkj78]

OMG SOOOO SAD CRYING IM SORRY I CANT HELP MYSELF

[@jasonarmstrong5750]

SNAKE!

[@Swordust]

Evidence?! Nuclear attack?! The colony can still be saved?! The Gundam?!

[@everettomailia8668]

METALLLLLL GEARRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

[@thelegendmaster3935]

@@everettomailia8668 "He then accidentally throws himself into the ocean and is unfortunately exposed to the horrors of having to learn how to run the Mother Base again."

[@greyatlas3598]

Hey it’s Christmas, rip Bernard

[@Wzrd8]

Bernie is a god damned roll model.

[@NoelComiX]

I like to think Bernie became a cyborg and ran as a democratic party presidential candidate.

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

This is crazy I never realized this To me he sounded so different in MGS1

[@sovieta5619]

Toast a glass to Bernie

[@roothands]

IF YOU HATE THIS OVA I HATE YOU OKAY

[@dudududu1926]

Basednard Wiseman

[@MegaloSaro]

Me too :(

[@tiphares2355]

why he had to die..

[@lupvirga]

to be reincarnated as the best spy ever.

[@katz-o5k]

To be burger

[@Cadiangrunt99]

Well they end up together Robot Wars 3, the main charaters intercept a comm transmission from Bernie to his CO and Chris verbally smacks him untill he joins you. XD So somewhere they did get a happy ending. :)

[@Phoenix_Destiny_Kai]

That's why I always had respect for the SRW games. Because they at least fixed a LOT of the crap that happens in the Gundam universes. While I do understand that it won't ever change canon, I'm fine with that because at least that way I can still have my favorite characters happy in at least one setting. (Too bad it never fixed that MASSIVE pain Rayearth etched in my heart. I swear, Emeraude died and was never allowed to have a happy ending with Zagato all because of the fucked up "rules" that Cephiro had. I swear, if it came to me choosing either my greatest love or living peacefully within Society, I would say "FUCK YOU" to Society in a heartbeat.)

[@Cadiangrunt99]

@@Phoenix_Destiny_Kai Yeahj they have made certain series and chars I hate either tolerable or like their takes on them. Such as EVA and Zeta Gundam. Also the comic fun of the Girls form Rayearth wanting the Getters to train them in 30 XD and the Getters internally being THIS IS SO BAD AN IDEA!)

[@kevinkun]

Bernie transforms into Kaz's Burgers😂

[@Mikel-t2i]

insert duran duran invisible

[@CaptainJoystick]

BEEERRRRRNNNNIIIEEEEEE!!!!

[@anubiscaramelo]

try not to cry

[@Ginga]

@boomstix I agree with your first point to an extent. To your 2nd point though, again, I disagree. Speaking specifically about "War in the Pocket", the story was made for character development. The main character is a boy and in the 6 episodes, there are 4 mobile suit battles, all rather short. The writers would have to be idiots for Alfred not to be changed by his experience. I'm not saying they didn't do a great job but the setting & premise lent themselves to character development.

[@atomu27]

Peak

[@deonace]

bernie died a tragic death...sigh..

[@tasihuzako]

such a tragedy. though Bernie lives in some g generation games. you can use him as a pilot xD

[@lampuiho]

because he fights for zeon at the same time he doesn't want "innocent" people die

[@チョク-h6h]

There is something I want you to pay attention to in Bernie's behavior. He lied in the video letter. "I want to fight Gundam." That was a lie. He had a habit of looking away when he was lying. When you find out, you can see Bernie's love for Al and his strength in trying to overcome his own weakness.

[@luckyeric777]

rip

[@gibsonflyingv2820]

why is everyone saying this is metal gear? i dont see it.

[@CoolGuy-mf9px]

The guy who voices Bernie is the same man who voices Solid snake

[@gibsonflyingv2820]

omg seriously??????????????????/ THATS INSANE OMGGGGG

[@CoolGuy-mf9px]

Orange Fender Yup ikr lol David Hayter himself

[@gibsonflyingv2820]

THATS SO FUCKING AMAZING DUDE!

[@Cadiangrunt99]

Ya it never came out here to to copy right issues however there is an fan translation out there. Though it's old in several other games you can save Bernie too. :D Normally he does end up with Chris as her boyfriend. >D

[@boomstix]

@BlackDeathViral03 so true by far Bernie's one of my most favorite characters screw those seed, wing characters Bernie's more human and fleshed out more than all of them combined

[@Ginga]

@octoslut I don't see how Chris "relied" on the Gundam. She piloted the suit. What else was she supposed to do? As for who the better pilot was between her and Bernie, that's debatable. Chris hadn't fought in a real battle herself so even though she was piloting a superior suit, she was basically a rookie too. I'm not comparing the two but like Chris, Amuro took some shots when he first started piloting his Gundam.

[@ducanhluu2697]

haha its 10 years and Im wonder if ya still there, how you been and whether u still remember the series. But if you look up profile of Christina, she's actually an ace pilot with numerous achievement on battlefield, proving herself to defeat many Zakus despite being outnumbered. So there's a huge gap between her and Bernie the rookie

[@Ginga]

@@ducanhluu2697 Wow! Literally a decade later. If course I still remember the series. One of the best stories in the franchise. I didn't know Christina was actually an ace.

[@ducanhluu2697]

@@Ginga haha a generation replies to a generation

[@Ginga]

@@ducanhluu2697 It's all good man. I've always found the term "ace" a bit subjective. If on-screen kills determine ace status, there might not be as many normal human aces compared to Newtype/Enhanced aces in the Gundam franchise. If we base it on pure skills and general reputation though, there were dozens. Three of my favorites were 08th MS Team's Norris Packard, 008's Anavel Gato and Zeta's Yazan Gable. Bernie was most definitely a legend. Made a friend, taught the kid some valuable life lessons and did his best to complete his mission.

[@Ginga]

@octoslut I never said Bernie was a bad pilot but he sure as hell wasn't a good one. The guy was a green rookie who got shot down on his first mission. Yes, his Zaku was inferior to the Alex but Bernie simply didn't have the piloting skills to prolong the battle.

[@dante22723]

This anime destroyed me. I’ll never eat a hamburger again 😭

[@karlmarx2010]

snake snake snaaaake!!!!!

[@Palpad100]

nobody hates this ova they mate hate almost everything of gundam even the original but never this ova.