Bertcast # 495 - Amanda Knox & ME

Today, I sit down with Amanda Knox. We talk about her relationship with Italy, being wrongly convicted for murder, getting a guilty verdict twice, what prison was like, being infamous, her acquittal, becoming a Mother, and much more!
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[@stephenbranagan7063]

"You studied abroad you know how crazy things get" is one of the greatest podcast lines ever when you consider who berts talking too

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

She and Whitney told knife jokes.

[@LetsBeClear87]

@@TheWchurchill4pm 😧

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@LetsBeClear 😉

[@alexeilindes7507]

I mean.. do you think an entire body of the Italian government thought this c@nt was that important 🤔 Or.. did she not like her prude roommate one night?

[@jwbeem]

Uhhhh hundred purrcent

[@macksanderson]

"I'm gonna make smashburgers tonight. How did you celebrate birthdays in prison?" - Bert with the hard-hitting journalism.

[@lorelaigermain7708]

L

[@je__.]

😂😂😂😂

[@josephflint5456]

Only Bert could have Amanda Knox on his podcast and spend most of the time psycho analyzing himself lol.

[@ssenssel]

Bert is insufferable

[@MrWorstnameever]

Why do all of Rogan’s buddies feel the need to start their own podcast. I guess I should blame his fans instead.. since they’re the ones listening to this crap and making them famous. First it was Schaub.. and now it’s getting out of control. They should be thanking Rogan at the start of each episode instead of talking about their sponsors, because they wouldn’t be here without him All his buddies that have podcasts seem to get Joe’s sloppy seconds as well, instead of getting their own guests.. it’s hilarious. The only one worth listening to is Lex Fridman

[@derekmoseley8447]

Lol I'd love to see a reaction video of Tom cringe-watching this.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

It’s not like Amanda hasn’t been psychoanalyzed by everybody already.

[@josephflint5456]

@@TheWchurchill4pm or like bert hasnt pyscho analyzed himself a million times. Im a bert fan but its okay to make an honest critique

[@baccy81]

I am Italian and roughly the age of Amanda, I know Perugia and university life in Italy very well. I have watched and read a large amount of reliable material on this case and the more I learn the more I feel extremely angry and embarrassed at the people who stole the best years from this girl who came to experience my country with the best intentions and who understands our culture so deeply. I feel so sorry for what she went through and I wish I could give her a hug and apologise on behalf of all the good and honest people of Italy. I hope you read this Amanda. You are always welcome to come in my country and whoever has thrown shit at you are just gossip-magazine-brainwashed halfwits

[@sertorio1040]

Sono stati troppo ingenui : se Raffaele portava Amanda a casa sua e chiedeva aiuto al padre , tornavano con un avvocato e l'interrogatorio di Amanda sarebbe stato diverso !

[@youtubechangemynamewhy]

It’s unbelievable only because this prosecutor had a crazy idea then the whole system goes for it

[@avaughn828]

This was an amazing interview. I too, followed Amanda's story closely as it happened and I'm glad she is doing well today. So intelligent and well spoken. I love how Bert is able to bring out the vulnerable side of people without being condescending.

[@justinofpreece]

This was my favourite Bertcast so far, such a honest and moving story and you could see the connection between their different lives but having similar emotional consequences they are both working through

[@Bild0zer]

For all that is annoying about Bert not listening and telling his own stories at the expense of his guest, this one seemed like a genuine conversation between two people. There is a genuine connection and it seemed like she really enjoyed getting insight into Bert.

[@digitalsalsas]

Bertha is a good guy. Easy to talk to

[@dinalampa4943]

She enjoys every time she earns money (bloody money) telling her lies.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@DinaLampa why do you think she’s lying?

[@digitalsalsas]

@@TheWchurchill4pm because he’s bored and drunk texting… using (blood money) in parenthesis is a big clue

[@dinalampa4943]

@@TheWchurchill4pm Because I know the truth...as you do too.

[@tonka904]

When I saw this pop up I was like Amanda Knox Amanda Knox? WTF is she doing Bert's podcast for? But it truly was am amazing interview and loved seeing them laugh so hard.

[@dkny824]

Hah werd..so odd...but usually guests of rogan make the rounds of his friends podcasts

[@dkny824]

@@yiorgarra good call

[@youraverageog9773]

About to watch, very nervous lol

[@peezdoc]

I did the same exact thing and thought to myself "it's gotta be a different Amanda Knox, like a surfer or something..." So I opened it just you read the description to see hahaha. But yeah, it is a good one.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@TheVapist I liked her interview with Whitney. It got a lot of hate, but I found it hilarious - especially with Amanda’s husband giving commentary

[@TimTalksVlog]

Probably the best Amanda Knox interview I have seen. Whitney.. well she was Whitney, love her podcast. Joe was... well Joe.. nothing wrong with that either But Bert was vulnerable, and that just did something.. GREAT conversation, and Great podcast.. thanks Bert Love the, "no detaile to small" approach.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@TimGadd I wish she didn’t have to only give interviews focused on her case. From what I’ve seen, she’s well-read on a variety of subjects. It would be nice if she sat down with somebody and just discussed something like literature.

[@TimTalksVlog]

​@@TheWchurchill4pm I completely agree. But I do understand that because her story only really was told by herself (on a mass scale) in a book, a documentary on Netflix, and in these recent podcast appearances. (I might have forgotten some) They will focus on this right now, as that is still very interesting, and when she speaks about it, she captured the audience. Also we still, even here at the Bert cast, get the "she a murder, she did it, hope she is put back in jail comments from sad people" I hope that the narrative when she is involved will change to something else. maybe more of just her giving insight to related subjects, or as you said maybe literature. A lot of people come out with the feeling of "Oh! she is really really smart, and a great storyteller" if you check the comments, there are fortunately still an overwhelming amount of comments about that. we did get a hint of it at Whitney's podcast. But there she was interrupted every 6 seconds. I hope she starts a more unproduced podcast, with a looser form factor. I really think people would love that. BUT I also fear I will bring her attention from the haters.

[@Campzzyzx]

"Chick's don't kill their friends " Bert. 2021 Checks out

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

I think Amanda disagreed with his reasoning there because the same sort of generalization played a role in her prosecution. The lead prosecutor, Giuliano Mignini, thought the fact that Meredith’s body was covered up suggested her killer was a woman.

[@vinyllpreviews9462]

I never bought Amanda and her new bf of 2 weeks would engage in a murder rape scenario. Made a hell lot more since thatcthe guy who had a record for breaking into properties, broke in and raped and killed her.

[@flowerjpotter1629]

If you still think "Chick's don't kill their friends" then look up females who kill females. There are more than you'd think out there.

[@Multi7477]

Almost didn’t watch this. Glad I did. Great job Bert ! I think you showed us a hole different side of you.

[@Multi7477]

@@zach374 Ben aflec

[@Multi7477]

@@zach374 huh

[@manoverboard321]

A hole

[@Rattys]

That was hands down, the weirdly tamest version of The Machine that I have ever heard.

[@larryfarrow8322]

Because he lied

[@jacobchapman9803]

@@larryfarrow8322 he just didn't say every detail this time

[@lokithecat7225]

Probably the only time you'll see The Machine story, without the story.

[@sg9255.]

Amanda is so well adjusted considering what she’s been through! She seems so kind and intelligent, I’m glad life has worked out for her

[@xvsupremacy7190]

Are we talking about the Amanda Knox the Italian Police 👮‍♂️ wanted to bring back for a retrial , because she was not only dangerously esoteric but dysfunctional too. The Italian Justice System And Police are as assured about Amanda’s part in the murder as the Portuguese police and Justice System are about Madeleine Mc Cann. I advise people not be overcome with sympathy for convincing personal testimonies by Amanda who sees herself as the victim in all of this. All of it. But to read the Case thoroughly and explore All Evidence empirically .

[@wwehht]

@@xvsupremacy7190 I recommend you to read on how the Italian police botched the investigation of Kercher’s murder.

[@mateuszmazurek7991]

@@xvsupremacy7190 wise words!

[@jarrettath9636]

Keep on defending this murderer.

[@raaaaaaaaaam496]

She got away with murder

[@k.k.hickey279]

Anyone else notice Amanda looks like a younger version of LeAnn? I can’t imagine Bert’s fascination…

[@larryfarrow8322]

No he loves average looking white women tell him go to whole foods

[@Hawaiiphotoman]

Excellent observation

[@dawnykz7452]

Def agree..that said he doesn't realize...Leanne I luv ya you've made it work..good mama

[@megmillion]

Yes! I thought the same… it a 30 something version of Ila!

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

3:34 “My wife played with her baby.” Do you think little Eureka got confused and called LeeAnn ‘mommy?’

[@GENBECCAM]

This is the first time I have listened to this podcast. Such a great episode.

[@samanthalee4403]

Oh my goodness me too loved it!

[@littlepowerpuff]

i’ve always been so interested in her. she’s extremely well spoken

[@kyleahrens62]

Great interview Bert, had relatable questions that were well thought out. I will say the thing that provided my biggest laugh was the ad for Galboni cheese, Italy’s number one selling cheese, right after the podcast ended!!! Pretty sure the algorithm for ads did not take into consideration context!

[@aparson2967]

Sit that woman down with the crew atf YMH. Dr Drew would love her, the Booth Boys would tell her about their own performances as gargoyles and weed smokers, and Ryan Stickler can teach her how to laugh at tragedy. That would be a win for me.

[@schingh1973]

Yes! I need to see her reaction to Fed Smoker.

[@ripley2995]

Bert surprisingly I relate deeply to your struggle with impulse control manifested as being an interrupter. I’m embarrassed about it but I just get so excited I have to say something!

[@mariaaa_]

Such a great interview! I can agree with Bert I could listen to this podcast with her for hours

[@kita476]

I didn't realise they caught the person responsible for her murder... Wow

[@c.l.1820]

Probably bc the media just focuses on Amanda and not Meridith.

[@newloon]

They caught the guy right away which makes what happened to her so F'd up

[@dinalampa4943]

they had caught all 3 of the culprits, included indeed Rudy Guede.....but 2 of them managed to get away thanks to an incredible, suoer expensive "innocent-fraud campaign" who made believe to an entire country that they were innocent. This is how it works nowadays

[@vinyllpreviews9462]

Even though they caught the guy, they had to form a story around Amanda and her bf and him all doing it. Oh yea, then staging a break in, which Rudy had a record for breaking into properties.

[@miner.camp.stoves]

Amanda Knox is the best interview of 2021.

[@Hxhcicivkviviv]

I love that Amanda is being embraced by the comedian community.

[@Capcoor]

Whitney Cummings too.

[@Droop75]

Amanda is a highly intelligent person. Loved her on Rogan and on here.

[@claricevick5112]

Lmfao omg when Bert starts telling Amanda Knox the machine story i completely lost it. “Waaait she doesn’t know?!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️

[@Nothingstutube]

Great friendship like interview. I got to know two other humans through this video. Amanda is incredible. Jah Bless you both from New Zealand.

[@joshsatterfield9440]

This was such a good ass interview, it makes you laugh , cry and everything.

[@zeragon7]

Almost done with this episode and loving it. Please tell me she also did WOTP? I would love to hear Amanda and LeeAnn talk.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@zeragon7 what do you think LeeAnn would ask that Bert didn’t?

[@zeragon7]

@@TheWchurchill4pm Nothing specific in mind. I just think both she and Amanda have extremely high emotional intelligence, so I predict the conversation would be fascinating to listen to and probably result in some interesting insights.

[@je__.]

​@@TheWchurchill4pm her upbringing and childhood? parenting ? maybe something about being a mother with terrifying unforgettable experience in the past ?

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

I wish she’d talked more about Don Saulo, the priest. He was my favorite person from her book. From what she wrote, he’s kind of like Mr. Rogers ❤️

[@gldnsunrising7761]

I realized something. This is literally, LITERALLY the only person I've ever heard captivate Burt to the point of him being quiet for long periods of time so they can talk. Right on Amanda! 👊

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@MichelleBlanton I agree. The best people aren’t the ones who show the best in themselves. They’re the ones who bring out the best in others.

[@c.l.1820]

@@TheWchurchill4pm you are in every comment in every video made that has Amanda Knox in it.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@c.I. I read her book a few months ago, and “Sometimes, you read a book and it fills you with this weird evangelical zeal, and you become convinced that the shattered world will never be put back together unless and until all living humans read the book." - John Green.

[@heatherr2141]

This is by far my favorite podcast you've put out. i love this from you!

[@MsLittleChristine]

In order to believe that Knox and Sollecito are innocent, you have to overlook the following: Knox's accusation against her employer, a claim she made after less than TWO HOURS of being interviewed (not 40, like Team Knox would have you believe - this is a proven fact) and stuck to for 3 weeks, letting her innocent boss rot in jail all the while. The fact that Meredith Kercher’s blood was found mixed inside Knox’s fresh DNA in 5 different spots in the bathroom. The fact the Knox was bleeding on the day of the murder, and left blood smeared in the bathroom, blood which she herself admits was not there the day before. Sollecito’s DNA on Meredith’s bra clasp - with a 16 loci match, the probability that the DNA belongs to someone else is one in a trillion, and with only ONE other DNA trace of him in the cottage (cigarette butt) the idea of contamination is near impossible. Knox’s DNA on the handle of the murder weapon and Meredith’s on the blade. Sollectio tried to explain this by saying he had accidentally pricked Meredith with his knife while she had been at his house. She had never been there. The THREE sets of bloody footprints, one a match for Guede, one a match for Sollecito, and one in Knox’s size, in her own DNA, mixed with Meredith’s. The single bloody footprint on the bathmat, which is a perfect match for Sollecito, and also, being the only bloody footprint with no others around it, is undisputed proof a clean up happened. The blatantly staged crime scene, with glass on TOP of the clothes strewn around, a near impossible window entry point, and not a single trace of Guede anywhere in that room, not to mention the fact Knox and Sollecito ‘knew’ nothing had been taken before anyone had even looked. The fact that Guede’s footprints lead right out Meredith’s room out the front door and he has an alibi for the rest of the night, meaning we KNOW it wasn’t Guede who returned to the scene hours later, staged a burglary, cleaned up and moved the body. The fact that Knox’s lamp was found in Meredith’s room with no fingerprints whatsoever - more proof of a clean up. The incredible amount of changes in her account before, during, and after she was arrested. Total lack of alibi after multiple attempts, and then Sollecito withdrawing his alibi for her. Her dubious account of her activity the morning after the murder, including her lies about Meredith’s locked door, her reaction to the blood, and the contradictions to this she makes in her testimony, email home, and in her book. The fact Knox knew several details about her murder she could not possibly have known: cause of death, position of body, that there had been more than one attacker, that Meredith had been assaulted etc. The frantic call she made to her mother in the middle of the night that she ‘forgets’ making. The witness who saw her and Sollecito by the cottage on the murder night. The shopkeeper who saw her when she claimed to be in her bed sleeping. Her overall behaviour after the murder. And I can go on, and on, and on. My point is that, whatever opinion people have as to their guilty or innocence, there is enough evidence to convict, and however many times those claims of “no evidence" are repeated, it doesn't make it true.

[@mytrip6991]

If you're going to copy and paste troll Les Grossman aka Mike Hunt's work, at least give him credit. I'll just c&p my response to his, not your, post from quite a while ago: Les Gross; in order to believe For the umpteenth time, Les Grossman continues to just cut and paste the same lying posts... often written before the final acquittal...in an effort to push down any thread disproving them. I'm re-posting my rebuttal exposing his lies here to combat that. LG never engages in a discussion and never addresses the evidence presented that disproves his claims. He's a lying, cowardly, troll who gets some kind of sick pleasure out of harassing Knox even 7 years after her final acquittal. In order to believe Mike Hunt (better known as John Doe and Les Grossman), you have to overlook that he's been a lying troll for years who presents disproved myths as fact and just downright lies. You have to overlook the actual court records, testimony and experts' reports and believe a sick troll who copies and pastes his same posts repeatedly and upvotes them himself. He's posted this same post at least 5 times in the last month along with others he just c&p's repeatedly. So I'm going to post the truth: " The fact that Meredith Kercher’s blood was found mixed inside Knox’s fresh DNA in 5 different spots in the bathroom." When DNA is deposited cannot be dated. That is a scientific fact. Finding the mixed DNA of people who live together and share the same bathroom is common and expected. The DNA does not have to be left at the same time and can be day, weeks or months apart. They become mixed when the sample swab wipes up both sets of DNA. It's like taking a yellow crayon and coloring over a red crayon marking; you'll get orange. "less than TWO HOURS of being interviewed "? The official beginning time of that interrogation was 11:00 but questioning actually began closer to 10:30 per the testimony of Ficarra who was the interrogator. The first statement was at 1:45. Unless "Mike Hunt" uses different math than the rest of us, that is not 'under TWO HOURS". "The fact the Knox was bleeding on the day of the murder, and left blood smeared in the bathroom, blood which she herself admits was not there the day before." Two small drops on the faucet were not proved to be deposited on the day of the murder. Just because Knox says she didn't see it on Nov. 1 is not proof it wasn't there. Logic says if she had seen it, she'd have cleaned it up. At the very least, she'd have lied and said she saw it but forgot to clean it. No wounds or cuts were found on Knox. "Sollecito’s DNA on Meredith’s bra clasp"....along with the DNA of at least two other unidentified men. Did those two men also touch MK's bra hook? Two independent, court appointed...not police...forensic expert determined that DNA was not reliable evidence and most likely due to contamination resulting from the egregious failure to follow anti-contamination protocols by the police. "the idea of contamination is near impossible". Not according to the police video which shows the hook being touched by a visibly dirty glove, handed around to several officers also wearing gloves that Stefanoni admitted were not changed between handling evidence. "Knox’s DNA on the handle of the murder weapon and Meredith’s on the blade" Meredith's DNA was not on the blade as concluded by two independent, court assigned forensic experts. Experts who had more advanced degrees in forensics and more experience then Stefanoni who claimed MK's DNA was on the blade. Nor was any blood found on the knife after repeated testing. The only way to remove all traces was by soaking in bleach...which would have destroyed any existing DNA. "The single bloody footprint on the bathmat, which is a perfect match for Sollecito" Not according to Prof. Vinci who used Crimescope, a forensic lighting tool used to make photos more visible, and who also examined the mat in person, neither of which the prosecution expert did. He excluded Sollecito. "and also, being the only bloody footprint with no others around it, is undisputed proof a clean up happened." There is no forensic evidence of a clean up. None. Logic says that, if that were Sollecito's print, the pair would have removed the rug or at least washed it. Instead, they pointed it out to the police. I could continue with the rest of his lies, but I think I've proved what a liar he is.

[@MsLittleChristine]

@@mytrip6991 What you write isn't true, but you know that already. Everybody who looked at the evidence knows that Amanda Knox is probably guilty. I would, however, give her the benefit of the doubt.

[@mytrip6991]

@@MsLittleChristine What exactly did I say that you think isn't true? If you need to copy and paste someone else's work, then you must not know the case very well yourself. On the other hand, I do. And I don't get my info from YT: I get it from the court records. Pick a few things I said that you think aren't true and I'll prove they are. The SC Court of Italy and the first appellate court acquitted Knox and Sollecito, so it's obviously not true that "Everybody who looked at the evidence knows that Amanda Knox is probably guilty."

[@mytrip6991]

@@MsLittleChristine Still waiting for you to choose some examples of what you think I wrote that aren't true.

[@bryan_turner]

I've always been fascinated by this case not only because of what happened, but a friend of mine was her roommate in college in Seattle, so I always felt like I was relatively close to this situation even though I've never met her.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@BryanTurner I sent her an email once, through her website. She got back to me within an hour. It was short, but very sweet.

[@bryan_turner]

@@TheWchurchill4pm right on. I don't think I'd ever reach out to her to tell her I knew her former roommate. That might be a bit creepy, but it was a reason why I had taken an interest in the situation.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@BryanTurner I asked her if she could consider writing a book dealing exclusively with her prison experience. I don’t know her, but I get the impression she likes responding to thoughtful questions.

[@Em91s]

You guys love hating on our boy Bert, lol. He is so kind and funny, but not Alpha and you cannot deal with that?? :))) Love you, man!

[@theotherLewbowski]

Do you mean Alpha?? And no, hesa dick

[@Em91s]

@@theotherLewbowski I don't agree with you on bart, but I did spell that so wrong :))

[@hannahk1150]

Bert isn’t perfect by any means in interviews but the heartfelt, misty eyed moments that happen with him are always so worth it. Bert truly has heart and that’s why I’m a fan in the first place.

[@PollyTodd]

No interviewer has ever loved himself more.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@PollyTodd you should watch the Whitney podcast LOL

[@elcocoreyes]

every time Bert tries to put on a straight face, It cracks me up...lol

[@amberawkward2748]

I watch YMH & affiliates for years and years, this is the best Bert I have been exposed to. Holy shit.

[@bradleyfowler4735]

I now love Amanda, she seems so genuine and innocent. I really believe her and I'm so proud of Bert for actually having a great conversation with her and seeming genuinely interested in her and not telling his own story

[@ryananda5110]

She had a hand in it

[@jsmnzgb]

Lol you're dreaming!

[@ryananda5110]

@@jsmnzgb I don't care, but she lied about being there and she basically made the netflix doc support her

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@RyanAnda she wasn’t paid for the doc and had no role in its production

[@Beardymanlol]

This makes me so damn happy. Just fired this one up, but I remember hearing that Amanda's first years back in Seattle were pretty awful.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@Allen Wilson - I think it was in 2014 that her mother “dragged” her (she’s mentioned this in interviews) to an Innocence Project event in Portland. She had just been convicted for the second time and was facing the possibility of going back to prison. She arrived at the event thinking she’d have to relive everything, telling people about her case. Then two men, both exonerees, came up her and one of them said, “You don’t have to explain anything, little sister. We know, we know.” ❤️

[@bekah728]

In AA the point of making amends is to do it not expecting an apology. It is to sincerely apologize.

[@goatpepperherbaltea7895]

Bert is top tier interviewer when he’s interested in the person man is at sickler level sometimes

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

A person is like a book: we learn more from a person when we feel a deep connection

[@rodrigobarreda]

This Podcast was really great, I loved it

[@eddo00]

this was so great. love the 2 bears piece. its like tommy buns is a guardian watching over her shoulder the whole time.

[@lexluther3552]

Anyone got any recommendations where I can watch like episodes, or documentary, through the very beginning of Amanda Knox - til the end of her case/coverage? Any good podcasts that really give me the details from start to finish? (I found your podcast and LOVED this episode, and plan to continue to watch!)

[@mytrip6991]

You'll find all kinds of them online, but the trouble is, most of them are made by amateurs and/or highly biased people. I've found many with several factual errors. Personally, I'd recommend Netflix's "Amanda Knox". The producers interview Knox, Sollecito, Prosecutor Mignini, tabloid reporter Nick Pisa, and others.

[@marianmorley]

Roberta glass on youtube is excellent

[@cschmied8]

Amanda is such a gentle human being!!

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@CSchmied I just don’t understand why people think her behavior is psychopathic. I’ve seen so many videos of her (you should watch The Scarlet Letter Reports) and she is always so sweet and empathetic.

[@stephanieluminous3116]

Wow. I laughed. I cried. Absolutely fantastic interview! Amanda Knox is an amazing woman.

[@andrewbehrman7309]

I LOVE that the auto-generated captions got Brent's name wrong 3 seconds into the video.

[@bluejay2623]

Bert: "How do you celebrate birthdays in prison??" 🤔 Amanda: "You don't" 😆

[@gwildordipkin6504]

I seen a guy give a guy a candy bar under his door and say happy birthday once.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

She wrote in her book that a lot of the women with whom she was incarcerated didn’t know their own ages, partly because they were uneducated. Some couldn’t even tell time.

[@gossipgal1418]

I wish he would let her think through the question being asked without interrupting her thought process! He interrupts her at the worst possible times- she is in deep thought about the guards and he interrupted her! UGH and why is it important he needs to follow Her ex boyfriend at that very moment!….! Well he just owned that he does this behavior.. interesting!

[@SailorGreenTea]

I am so excited for this interview.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@SailorGreenTea was it what you expected?

[@SailorGreenTea]

@@TheWchurchill4pm well, in Whitney Cummings podcast with her she talked more of masterbation, I am not through the whole thing yet though. I think with Burt she is more personal though.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@@SailorGreenTea Yes, when they talked about his first sexual experience. I feel that was a good way to discuss sexual issues, by talking about the feelings of the participants. There's an anti-Amanda website I visit for opposition research. One of the members wrote an article about the dangers of unsafe sex, and of how she thinks Amanda is a representation. While I do agree with some of the writer's more general points, I get mad when people use Amanda's sexual history to portray her as simply "pleasure-driven." She clearly tries to feel for others.

[@barnyfraggles]

I'll wager the relentless draconian nature of the Italian legal system is an offshoot of the mafia trials and maxi-trials that started in the 80's. You can't have a Cosa Nostra boss getting off on a technicality and never able to try them again.

[@gavrielamati9939]

Welcome to italy

[@Italianhome]

well let's also talk about the U.S. legal system... very frightening

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

Amanda got a bum rap, but Italy’s system has some advantages over ours. I learned about them from, of all places, Amanda’s own book. I think we can all agree that their appeals system is better than ours. If she’d been convicted in the US, Amanda would still be in prison today.

[@supernova.143]

Wow... a Bertcast made me cry...

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@Shiny I felt that way reading Amanda’s book “Waiting To Be Heard”

[@mwilson14]

Years ago, after Amanda was back in the US, her story was blowing up everywhere and I ran into a girl that looked exactly like her at the grocery store.--I live near the Seattle area. I still don't know if it was her or not, but I feel very confident that it was. I just remember looking at her and thinking she looked familiar and she noticed my glance at her and her face turned more of a frightened or startled expression. This is when I realized this girl looked like Amanda Knox rather than someone I knew personally. The expression of my face probably reflected the short moment that my brain took, to associate that she looked familiar to me. If it was her, she probably noticed me, thinking that I recognize her from the news and might possibly confront her. I immediately felt bad and nodded and looked away at some shelves because I wanted her to feel like she could be out in public and just feel normal. I'll never know for sure if it truly was Amanda or not, but I'm just glad that she is thriving now, and wish I could tell her that I'm sorry if I caused any discomfort by any perceived expression on my face.

[@8swerve]

she seems pretty clever, I think she would've noticed your empathy. you sound caring. its would shine,

[@mandihougham1994]

This was an especially good interview from Bert! 👏👏👏👏

[@saintmichaelsmorningstar6451]

Well I’m glad that she’s “in the world” . Amazing podcast , thank you

[@astonwinter]

You should try and do more interviews of this nature, It's a very interesting. Love from CapeTown South Africa 🇿🇦

[@jamesraper433]

For those who may not be aware this is what the Supreme Court in Italy decided in relation to the three co-accused - 1. Knox, as a witness who was herself present at the scene of the murder, dishonestly and knowingly accused an innocent man, of the murder. She was sentenced to a term of 3 years imprisonment for this offence. This is a definitive conviction. 2. Rudy Guede was definitively convicted of the murder “in complicity with others”. 3. As stated above Knox was present at the scene of the murder, and her boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, probably was as well. 4. Meredith Kercher was attacked by more than one assailant, thus excluding that Rudy Guede was solely responsible for Meredith’s death. 5. A burglary had been staged at the cottage. Why? Who would be responsible for that? The Court drew no inferences and would not allocate the blame for that offence to any of the three accused. 6. There was no finding of fact as to who had inflicted the fatal stab wound. 7. Knox and Sollecito were acquitted on the basis that the evidence against them was insufficient to allocate culpability. 8. It had the option under Italian law to exonerate both Knox and Sollecito but chose the Not Proven verdict instead. Knox is a proven liar. Other than in her "Confession" she has always maintained, and still does to this day, that she was not at the cottage when the murder occurred. However, in addition to her confession there is other evidence that she was there. For example Meredith's DNA on the blade of Sollecito's knife, and his DNA on Meredith's bra clasp beneath Meredith's body. Also Knox's lamp on the floor of Meredith's bedroom behind the locked door. The likelihood of Sollecito being involved, without Knox, is miniscule. Barely mentioned, but highly significant is this other evidence. In her e-mail and trial testimony Knox said there was no blood in the small bathroom when she used it the day before the discovery of the murder. However she also said that during her alleged shower at the cottage the next day, just before the discovery of the murder, she noticed blood on the washbasin faucet that was hardly likely to be hers because of the amount and because it was “caked” on. Well. In fact, it was her blood as DNA analysis was to prove. Blood that must have been deposited, and had time to dry, in the period intervening between the two occasions when she freely admitted to using the bathroom : that is, in the evening or overnight when, according to her she was not there. That was a lie exposed by the science and her own account.

[@mytrip6991]

Copy and pasting your nonsense here, too, I see. Do you and Les Grossman do anything else but C&P your crap all over the internet? I'll just paste my reply to this exact same post you C&P'd elsewhere. James Raper is a frequent contributor to a site dedicated to disparaging and promoting the guilt of Knox, TJMK. They publish misleading 'articles' and down right lies. For example: James Raper 1 hour ago This is what the Supreme Court in Italy decided in relation to the three co-accused - "1. Knox, as a witness who was herself present at the scene of the murder, dishonestly and knowingly accused an innocent man, of the murder. She was sentenced to a term of 3 years imprisonment for this offence. This is a definitive conviction." This is misleading and a half-truth. He does not mention which SC of Italy decided this and when. This was not the ACQUITTING SC in 2015, but the Chieffi SC in 2013, the one that annulled her Hellmann court murder acquittal (2011). He also does not mention that her presence at the cottage the night of the murder therefore became a judicial fact whether factually true or not. The 2015 SC that annulled her murder conviction could NOT, under Italian law, find otherwise. "2. Rudy Guede was definitively convicted of the murder “in complicity with others”. " True, but again misleading because this became a judicial fact in 2010 when his conviction was finalized by the Giordano SC, AFTER Knox and Sollecito had been convicted in 2009, but before their acquittal in 2011. That there was more than one person involved in killing Kercher therefore became legally set in stone even though NO forensic evidence of anyone else in her room was found except for Guede and Kercher. "3. As stated above Knox was present at the scene of the murder, and her boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, probably was as well." Again, a judicial fact set in stone in 2013 by the Chieffi SC that the 2015 SC could not, by law, find otherwise. "4. Meredith Kercher was attacked by more than one assailant, thus excluding that Rudy Guede was solely responsible for Meredith’s death" Again, misleading due to the judicial truth (not necessarily factual truth) set by the 2010 Giordano SC. This was BEFORE both the bra clasp and the knife were found to be unreliable as evidence and thrown out. The acquitting courts of Hellmann and the 2015 SC discarded both as evidence. "5. A burglary had been staged at the cottage. Why? Who would be responsible for that? The Court drew no inferences and would not allocate the blame for that offence to any of the three accused." Misleading: that the burglary was staged, once again, became a judicial truth when Guede's conviction was finalized in 2010 by Giordano. Forensic evidence disproves it was staged. "6. There was no finding of fact as to who had inflicted the fatal stab wound." Misleading: that it was not Guede was another 'judicial truth" that became "legal fact" in the 2010 Giordano ruling that could not be changed and was found BEFORE the kitchen knife was discredited as being the murder weapon when Kercher's alleged DNA on it was found to be not supported by any scientific evidence per two independent, court appointed forensic experts in 2011. What the 2015 SC DID find is that it was NOT Knox or Sollecito who inflicted any of the wounds on Kercher. "7. Knox and Sollecito were acquitted on the basis that the evidence against them was insufficient to allocate culpability." True. It's called BARD (Beyond a Reasonable Doubt) which almost all acquittals are based upon. "8. It had the option under Italian law to exonerate both Knox and Sollecito but chose the Not Proven verdict instead." Misleading: it had the option ONLY if it was proved that Knox and Sollecito COULD NOT POSSIBLY have killed Kercher. IOW: this verdict could only be found if they could have proved they were elsewhere at the time of the murder or for another reason that proved it was physically impossible. This verdict is rarely found because if a person has a provable alibi or evidence they could not possibly have committed the crime, it's usually found before any charges are even made. "Happy with that?" It would be better if you provided the information I have above instead of resorting to misleading claims to support your position. But then again, that's the whole point, isn't it?

[@mytrip6991]

@J Colatorti The guilters claim she's a proven liar but believe everything she says as long as it supports their beliefs. If she says something that doesn't support their beliefs, then that's a 'lie'. It's a Catch 22 that works for them.

[@betsybabf748]

What is celebrated is being able to take the worst of human bullying, in the internet generation, and to still thrive as a successful, non-bitter, non-mean and bitter, human being. Those who bully on Twitter and other forums are more bitter, miserable and nasty, and they never even endured and survived that unfair torture.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

call me naive or optimistic, but I haven’t lost faith in social media as a source for positive change. Like any tool, its impact depends on those who use it. As an institution, it doesn’t need to be defined by the users who bring people down. I believe we may see the day when social media is used, for the most part, as a way to share love.

[@betsybabf748]

@@TheWchurchill4pm That can only be accomplished when bullying stops becoming normalized, as it has been the past 10 years, and people stop tolerating that behavior. We have children cyberbullied so badly on social media they are taking their lives at younger ages. Parents need to be educated, but that kid's Dad is calling someone names, harassing them on Twitter, their aunt is on Facebook gossiping and bullying the mom in her neighborhood she doesn't like as she hypocritically posts anti-bullying memes, and Mom is posting nasty comments about Amanda Knox and Kim Kardashian on Instagram. That is the reality we have now and the education of societal behavior being set for the younger generation. We see the effects clearly in young adults, which is irrefutable, and the next generation is being taught worse by example. If that behavior doesn't cease to be tolerated across the board, it is naive to ever feel that is not what we are creating as a society sadly.

[@godfreyjasonj]

Jason Biggs and now Amanda Knox the best Bertcast in my opinion!

[@littlepowerpuff]

wow. him talking about how he thought he would be with tons of women and the act of losing his virginity changing his thinking was such a cool moment. such a profound realization. didn’t happen for me that way tho lmao but loved that part

[@jgp1294]

for me it was almost to the tee of what he explained, it was great to hear...I have never been able to verbalize it that way.

[@shshshshshshgt]

Best Bertcast I've heard. Keep it up Brent!

[@grategorbony]

I've been on the opposite end of that story, Bert--I had a writing professor wait til everyone was seated to pull out 1 of my assignments to read to the class, then afterwards, she said, "You all should aspire to write as eloquently & emotionally yet as accurate & proper as Miss Gorby," then she asked me to stay after class so she could get my permission to both publish my writing & enter it into a scholarship contest... BUT I still had a trauma response bc 1) no 1 wants to be singled out, 2) she read my very personal thoughts aloud to a room full of college students, some of whom were barely passing or not passing, bc she was a strict professor, so I had a bunch of "brown-noser" & "teacher's pet" kinda hate. How fkd up is that?? I haven't gone back to my old university since leaving that area, & I wonder if she or anyone else would care if I returned

[@cottrellbriank]

Fantastic podcast Bert. One of your best i think :)

[@caladr9367]

Bert: “It smells like piss in here” 😂

[@doggydaddo47]

Oh never mind, its my feet!!!

[@bobspurloc]

my first 4 reactions to seeing this in my feed was BERT and AMANDA? thats not going to go well... but I wanted to hear her speak so gave in. awesome interview. such a sad story... and still people use terms of "i believe her" etc etc... if u say that then u r on the side of the psycho prosecutor. what she says doesnt matter. there was no evidence against her. there never was... so why r u judging her?

[@PatBrownfield-TheRainmaker]

Who else would love to see Amanda reacting to the actual machine bit

[@digitalsalsas]

quality interview blunt

[@marcwilliams9824]

Knox does a great job of interviewing Bert. Gets absolute tons of stories out of him...

[@chandlerknowles4646]

At the very end of this I turned on Netflix to see what was on and immediately saw a Sandra bullock movie of a chick who seeking redemption after serving a murder sentence

[@arielanonymous7270]

Same! for a second i thought it was the knox documentary.

[@veronica-xd3ci]

He keeps giving Joe Rogan the credit of first having her on as if Theo didn’t have a great interview with her awhile ago

[@jgandia1207]

That was such a killer guest!! Keep it up!!

[@mytrip6991]

Please, try and come up with a 'witty retort' that hasn't been overused for the last 15 years.

[@mahler71]

So Amanda when you were asked if you were there when Meredith was murdered why did you nod when you said no?Red flag!!!

[@mytrip6991]

That's also called an 'affirmation nod'...emphasizing what was just said or showing powerful feelings Red flag? No; just basically putting an exclamation point on the "no".

[@MrJimodoom]

Best Bertcast so far.

[@andremaines]

Idk something about this girl just set off so many red flags for me. I also just watched a Jordan Peterson clip where he talked about her in a not so positive light so maybe that’s coloring my perception of her. I am kind of getting main character from the movie “Gone Girl” vibes from her though. She’s an interesting person for sure and this was a fun pod to listen to

[@augustkraus1389]

That was really fun, thanks Bert!

[@aimeelllmckenna3745]

Amanda has the exact same speaking voice as Selena gomez

[@DxeDrakine]

This is a great interview Berty!

[@danielgenung9279]

she has a great speaking voice. i hope the podcast is as good as this.

[@paulmcgarry4466]

I literally said shut the f up Bert multiple times in this interview. Lol.

[@nike5872]

You aren't touring everywhere, didn't see a single Canadian City! Have to make your way to Edmonton sometime!

[@michaeledward2518]

amanda reminds me of so much of leanne looks her talk pretty much in every way......... love from hamilton ontario canada

[@PJBchannel]

Amanda Knox and LeeAnn look quite similar. No wonder you're attracted to her, Bert! As I was watching this I was like WAIT, googled a picture of LeeAnn, and the connection was made

[@edgarcruz6749]

Tom sent me to say stop and get some Kool aid

[@aloneness3506]

how guilty do you need to be ....she was found guilty twice...BERT ...you care soooo much for meredith... did you ask her did she kill her ?

[@mytrip6991]

And she was found not guilty twice. Why should Bert ask her such a stupid question when she's answered that exact question many, many times.

[@marianmorley]

He has to tippy toe around her but he uses his own experiences to project what he really thinks about her. He's trying to steer her and out her in a covert way by saying about his own crime ; but obviously I was guilty of my crime and now I make a living telling that story; thats what she does, she has a career made from retelling her version of events. Crass

[@lordfordification]

Yes! Bert finally met her!

[@Kenneth_Hollis]

Great Job Bert!! the haters are going to say your acting different but it's really just thier insecurity and inability to step out of thier comfort zone. 💪

[@wikileaks6728]

“Take us through it, no detail too small” proceeds to interrupt at every turn 😏

[@alabama.worley]

"I'm DYING of hunger. I really want to say that I could MURDER a pizza, but that doesn't seem right". - Amanda Knox Nov 2nd, 2007 diary entry, while waiting to be questioned at the police station, immediately following the discovery of Meredith's body.

[@suzysmash3560]

So you’re saying her cheap jokes to ease her inner tension are solid.

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

@AlabamaWorley nice to see you again 🤗

[@hollycastle2740]

I must be a psycho too then with the way I use those words lol

[@alabama.worley]

@@hollycastle2740 So, you believe she's a "psycho"?

[@hollycastle2740]

@@alabama.worley no I was being sarcastic. Just because we use words like murder and death and kill it does t mean we are killers or psycho. She’s innocent. You can think otherwise if you want that’s your choice.

[@ceebee491]

This is a Bertcast I never, ever could imagine! This will be good😊

[@capitalj1987]

This one touched me was a so informative and funny all at the same time

[@makeupdiaries6438]

The Machine bit never gets old. Never.

[@Rizza.]

"we dont have to talk about it" LMFAO poor girl

[@dinalampa4943]

Are you referring to Meredith Kercher when you say "poor girl", right?

[@Rizza.]

​@@dinalampa4943 are you even a fan of bert or did you just come to the comments to look for problems? i was making a joke, directed at bert. he started to tell a personal story that he implied he was uncomfortable sharing, amanda told him he didnt have to share.. the joke is that bert overshares and never stops talking and its usually all about himself. so in this situation, uh, yes, amanda is the poor girl who has to listen to bert. again, a joke, as i am here watching because i love listening to bert talk. thanks.

[@dinalampa4943]

@@Rizza. Ah ok, sorry then, I misunderstood. Bye from Italy 😊👋

[@dinalampa4943]

@@Rizza. PS: as an Italian I didn't know Bert....but I found him very funny...he made me laugh a lot although I didn't understand all what he said. The one I don't like is Amanda Knox who told more lies than Judas on Holy Week. Bye again.

[@Rizza.]

@@dinalampa4943 aww i'm sorry for being so mean, i'm so used to people actually just trying to cause problems in the comments on here. never crossed my mind that you may have been genuine. so sorry! hope you have a really great day!!! lol

[@656harnish]

Is this about Amanda Knox or Bert Kreischer....dude you're killing me

[@gloriagaribay8679]

Only Bert can get away w/talking abt sex and it’s not creepy, uncomfortable, etc💝

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

As a society, we need to talk more about discussing uncomfortable topics in a more comfortable way ❤️

[@PretENDOgolf]

She was awesome on this past weekend

[@CasaFuenteOrange]

Solid job Bart! Keep that muffin closed until it was needed. What a story , wow.

[@stinkypinky8795]

Bert "seems like he got knocked in the head" Kreischer

[@ShredHouseGaming]

If we could just get her on Tom Talks Where people who’s names don’t rhyme with gurt tysher get to speak For real tho Bert did great

[@ewetoobblowzdogg8410]

My first question would have been "So when are you going to Italy again...?"

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

She and her former prosecutor have discussed doing a documentary together. I imagine she’d return to Italy for it or else he’d come to the us

[@arthurfleck8777]

Smart, beautiful and not a murderer... Just my type.