Best and Worst Champions for Paladins

[@FidelCattto]

Yes give kinessa her old teleporter where you place it somewhere and can tele back to it when you click it again

[@HamsterPants522]

That would really help and I don't think it's overpowered either.

[@FidelCattto]

HamsterPants522 while we're at it they should bring back the original mode that was so much better

[@MachinedFace88ttv]

dyndo101 sounds like sombra

[@FidelCattto]

Machineface Waterson sounds like original kinessa

[@taliesine.8343]

you just admitted it.. overwatch stealing from paladins :P

[@WhiteTaide]

HOW. IS. SHA LIN. UNDERPOWERED.

[@gytisdramblewolfskis8521]

simply. you can usually pay least attention to sha lin both in enemy team and if you're healer, dead or alive makes little difference.

[@thesmiteguy7619]

If you miss a shot you're pretty much done for,also you suck at close range,something like Kinessa.

[@gytisdramblewolfskis8521]

TheSmiteGuy and you're not better than cassie in damage either.

[@femi9879]

TheSmiteGuy kinessa can be good in close range if you have you mine and shoot with your carbine. The damage is pretty good.

[@thesmiteguy7619]

Frezzo But you're squishy and pretty much any flank will kill you instantly.

[@flyinmehkite384]

I play Grohk a lot. The only thing he needs is 1 second off of totm cooldown and a change to his ult. It doesn't heal enough or do enough damage.

[@johnhavering3543]

Samuel Boserman finally someone that understands me

[@doubled6490]

It does not need damage, but if he would not be so easy to kill while in ult it would help too, as he is huge target and goes over some shields. Just make him immune to all damage while in ult.

[@OhNoTheFace]

When you actually have to aim, maybe some damage will come

[@flyinmehkite384]

What I am meaning is, his ult doesn't effect the game enough because it doesn't heal enough or do enough damage. They just need to fix one end of that or the other.

[@monke2190]

Samuel Boserman grohk just needs more damage

[@Teddyponsel2626]

The debuff on barik is ridiculous, I mean he is already a tank with the lowest hp there is, and now they still feel the need to take it down to 2900? The bonus damage reduction and healing station debuff is well and good, but I mean cmon, hp reduction too? Even buck has higher hp than barik now, and he is a flanker.

[@zVersee]

Agreed

[@Marhathor]

But we shouldn't ask for a Barik buff now. Just a Buck nerf of like -500 max hp.

[@hayate503]

Grimm Jaw But barik can Heal himself with her turrets

[@Marhathor]

Her turrets?

[@Teddyponsel2626]

hayate yes and thats the problem, his turrets. not his hp, shield, blunderbuss or whatsoever. Thats why instead of nerfing various aspects of barik, or any other heroes, hi-rez should focus on fixing the element that made the said heroes broken.

[@leinadlink]

Fernando's ult is misunderstood. It makes EVERYONE in an area invincible, but most Fernandos use it to save themselves, it's smarter to use it when an important teammate (a damage dealer or a support) is at low health so they can retreat or finish off their target before they are killed. Since Fernando doesn't have too much damage, if you use your ult when there aren't any teammates around you just waste it.

[@JoshinoGaming]

Leinad link That's true!

[@GuessWithBob]

I BALIVE

[@GuessWithBob]

AND I BELIVE 2 THAT YNG IS THE BEST SPORT

[@Dafreshcut]

I agree. Cassie is too hard to kill. Almost everytime I play as a flank, I barely stand a chance against her. She's the most OP champion. Drogoz is also very strong, but he's pretty visible. Cassie must be nerfed. And yea, Skye now kindda sucks... She is my favorite Flank :/ She needs a buff.

[@zachy2314]

Rockey Ro cassie has to be the strongest dps because of how weak her ult, not all ults are greated equal and we need the asymetrical play to force counterplay. Andro counters sha lin and cassie, evie counters viktor and bk while skye counters kinessa and drogoz.

[@Dafreshcut]

Thezachy2314 Well, you can't make a pick right after you see the enemy champions... Her ult isnt too weak. Cassie is too hard to kill, belive me. Even when playing as Androxus.

[@francescoluchena8302]

Rockey Ro yep and against every champ she is very good

[@achanmould2904]

her ult isn't weak tho. Information is power

[@alansanchez9514]

im Main Cassie. and if u know where to place and watch the sides.. its. hard to kill. Also... im pretty good with androo... and today against diamond Cassie lvl 21 i fuck her all the Match xD its practice... on both sides. no one its better. the skill its the difference between living or die

[@JoshinoGaming]

Off to bed! :O NN all, sweet dreams, don't let the Androxus bite!

[@jxun4l3ht10]

Joshino DREAMS AWAITs YOU ALL

[@ArisingHeroBeAHero]

night. Good video

[@lameme32]

anyone rrealize that starslayer bolt looks like an imperial walker from star wars

[@eppu777]

Joshino Androxus is god i just love it😍😍❤️

[@sirfailsalot6174]

greninjoe 23 I think that's what they were going for

[@harrynairn]

Hey Joshino. I love your vids.

[@JoshinoGaming]

Glad you enjoy them :)

[@lameme32]

hello barik

[@pholidia8175]

Says the overwatch fan xD No sorry.

[@juwhamu8600]

I feel like ghrok needs a bit of a buff >> maybe an increase in damage? Or have his ghost walk give increased movement speed so he doesn't feel so turtlish qq

[@sedgy4880]

Grohk is real good not for solo kills but mostly for assists, if they do buff him they should either make his ult better or make ghost walk longer like you said

[@juwhamu8600]

Aero Dynamic I agree with ya! Maybe give his ult a chance to stun as well or buff the damage a bit

[@OhNoTheFace]

Or nothing given his face roll aim assist weapon. Players of him deserve what they get

[@TokenOracle]

CamTheKitty This conversation is before the recent buffs to Grohk and healers in general, where Grokh was by far the worst support. Now he's ok. Most other healers either currently or will outclass him (Grover, Pip)

[@InsomniaDreamZ]

kinessas teleport is not really an escape ability, its more a postion change

[@iXSIKOBOIXi]

Your suggestion is what Kinessa's teleporter used to be but they changed it for some reason. I think it was a nerf

[@mariofan1ish]

For the most part, I agree. But here's what I'd do to each character to balance them out a bit more. Cassie: Lower her rate of fire, but keep everything else. She fires so fast that bad aim doesn't even matter, and she can hold her own up close. Lowering her RoF would encourage her to stay further back and make each shot count a bit more. Drogoz: I think he's fine, actually. He isn't particularly fast, especially on the ground, and he takes great care to keep him alive. The only thing I'd change is making his Ult take longer to charge. Viktor: Assuming it's still absurd (haven't used Viktor in a long time), just make his falloff more sever. The 'mid-range damage type' shouldn't be doing that well at sniper range. Bomb King: Increase the cooldown on Poppy Bomb and Grumpy Bomb a bit and I'd say he's perfect. Sha-Lin. Maybe if his arrows scaled like Grover's axes, he'd be better? Flankers can still end him no issue, but that'd make him a more viable choice on most maps. Kinessa: Frankly I agree with the teleport. But otherwise I say she's as balanced as she's going go get. There's not much you can do without making her either OP or an infinite hole of suck. Fernando: Make his Ult grant full invincibility to all damage for the duration. The ability is supposed to let a team counter ults, but the damage received is still so massive that it doesn't matter. Failing that, raise the HP threshold. Makoa: Makoa's fine in my opinion. Raise his basic damage a bit, but otherwise I think he's really good as it is. Ruckus: Maybe he should trade his Right Click's shields for added damage resistance and a self-heal. Wrecker wouldn't slaughter him as much, but he still fulfills his role as heavy damage dealer that doesn't really support his team. Get him and Makoa together and great things happen. Barik: Barik is simply not fit to be a Frontliner. His shield is far too weak to justify it being stationary, and hid damage output is disappointing... I'd firstly make him have the strongest of all the Frontliner shields to justify it not moving, then maybe either increase his damage out put a bit (by extending the range and accuracy of his gun. Maybe replace it with a pistol of some kind), or increase his HP to make him slightly less squishy. Androxus: Just buff his Bonus Damage on the Right Click. If he's too good, maybe drop his damage after falloff, because he does hit pretty hard even at longer ranges. Evie: Maybe give Evie a few frames of total invincibility after Ice Block ends. As it stands, using Ice Block in a fight just means you'll die the instant it ends. It's garbage. I'd restore Wormhole to it's OB38 stats, but nerf Flicker's HP restore if she's too good at outlasting people. Buck: Increase the range of his gun before dropoff, and maybe tighten the spread. Otherwise I say he's fine. Skye: Like you said. Just make her basic fire a little better by increasing the accuracy and maybe Poison Darts will inflict the maximum Defense Drop when just one hits. Ying: Ying's fine, leave her be I say. If anything drop the damage on her main fire and increase the damage of Shatter to make it a more viable damage option. Mal'Damba: Again, he's fine, leave him be. Pip: Pip isn't even a Healer. He's a flanker with a heal shot. I'd either reduce the cooldown on Heal Potion, or make it restore more HP with each use. Maybe increase the area of effect. Grohk: Make him invincible during his Ultimate and increase the healing it does. I'm not asking for Grover Ult or Zenyatta Ult levels of healing, but it needs to be a bit higher. Grover: Make his axes either travel faster or do slightly more damage up-close. His job is to do damage to enemies behind the line, then tank things that are up-close, and he does that sufficiently already I think.

[@ABlunderingCat]

Viktor's fall-off was made more sever a few patches ago (I can't remember which).

[@mariofan1ish]

Razeen Mustafa Then he's probably fine.

[@mariofan1ish]

Jusey1 I have played Pip. It was fairly fun, and I see very good potential in him, but I just prefer Grover and Grohk. Grover hits harder and has pretty high damage resistance, and Grohk's Heal Rate is absolute absurdity, like you said, and his other moves are pretty nifty as well.

[@liubomyrshershun3018]

Bk isn't OP actually, he's easy target for flanks, and he don't have as much dps as Drogoz, Skye, or Viktor. His strength is in crowd control, and shield destruction.

[@liubomyrshershun3018]

Jusey1 I like BK, I play with this character a lot, and as for me, he's not proper damage dealer. He's more like Pip, he has damage, he can help his team (using stuns), and he has flank potential.

[@brianly8732]

Are you considering of making a Paladins Mythbusters? I can help. :D

[@lameme32]

that be awsome

[@lameme32]

can i suggest some stuff

[@lameme32]

wow thanks mrepic me

[@Rorther]

About healers: Grover -get at least 50% of distance damage improve on deployables/shield Grohk: -Improve his ult damage. Maybe he can also get some X% less damage while ulting. Or even healhimself on ult. -Improve right click damage OR base healing area of totem.

[@sailor3047]

no. his ult is for healing, not damage.

[@iXSIKOBOIXi]

Rorther Also Grohk's totem is ridiculously strong at healing

[@iXSIKOBOIXi]

Rorther Also Grohk's totem is ridiculously strong at healing

[@Rorther]

Islands I agree with you. But then he should heal himself, or better i don't know. Hes ult is so much worse than grover's for example. Then make him immune or something like that.

[@sailor3047]

Rorther Nah, he needs 50% damage reduction while ulting. Anything else would be incredibly unbalanced.

[@ramraganas8493]

before this video start i wanna share my opinion: i really think theres no best/worst character it depends on how good u are it also depends on ur card build the only wort character is really squishy characters :)

[@jennyinutil2018]

i feel reducing the time window you have to get the roll bonus damage it would be a good change.

[@joshkim2906]

Drogoz should be the top damage his salvo does so much a direct hit does 1000 his fire spit does surround damage and 900+ his ult is insta kill and he can fly

[@ccggenesis1114]

As much as I hate poppy bomb I think bk is balanced. I do feel most characters are decently balanced maybe a nerf androxus but other then that I have no complaints.

[@johnhavering3543]

CCG Genesis what about grohk? he is pretty bad

[@jasonsmith-lv5my]

cassies dodge roll cd card and no damage fall off and drogoz spit ball combo.

[@GoldenbloonJonson]

John Havering Grohk with good loadout is supreme healer, easly +100k per 15 minutes game

[@ccggenesis1114]

I did not know that resilience min-agates knock back. And I've never complained about bk being op.

[@jasonsmith-lv5my]

CCG Genesis that comment was for Pinkanuuba, there are other champs that are broken like drogoz and cassie. but people have issues with bk for some reason and usually the ones who have issue with him don't even play him. I confronted one on the forums but he made some stupid excuse. His K/D with bombking was shitty and he played less than 10 games only.

[@genericbauble9633]

What's the point of waiting to pull the bow for 1000 damage, if you can literally fucking fire a semi-auto bow that does 700 damage Cassie is really broken

[@yimpyoi9808]

Well you are kind of right but sha lin has an ability that can shoot 6 arrows at a fast pace that each do 800 damage. Plus sha lin has faster arrow velocity when charged full

[@anelmulalic8324]

I gotta say I love this channel! I usually play with Androxus because he has pretty good damage and he has speed! I love the Nether Steps too!

[@slothy7772]

Please do more of these videos, maybe make it a series after every update. Cuz it is VERY helpful.

[@bbcghost6505]

Who thinks they should nerf buck a bit? He just jumps in your face and 3 shots you. Other flanks actually require stealth but buck just goes in there and you can't do much about him.

[@trydierepeat8208]

agree with grohk just having 1 heal totem, that great as it is, is still fairly squishy, (even with cards) and has a silly cooldown timer rendering him unable to heal until it's back up. Either buffing the cards more or perhaps having the ability to place more than one totem, and having a similar regen like rukus's advance, or just a shorter cool down would make him more desirable.

[@ruingaming5839]

Your the best youtuber ever i always wanted an epic paladins yotbe bt now i have found yo and i watch you everyday

[@simonsemchenko3056]

I don't think Andro's right click is useless. It's good against tanks up close, since they're such a big target. And with the right card, (I forgot the name) it reduces the cooldown on reversal by up to 1 second, for EACH shot from his right click.

[@tengg1066]

Meme Police, hide your memes you not always flank a big tank dude, maybe better pick a more usefull loadout card.

[@JoshinoGaming]

Meme Police, hide your memes The math doesn't check out you can do 1240 damage over 1 second with 2 normal body hits or 1400 over 1.2 seconds with defiance but you pause between the 2 sets of defiance bursts. That 3rd normal body shot is only .3 of a second longer than the right click and will boost that dmg to 1860. DPS wise it is worst, plus unless you are right next to someone it is hard to hit. So you might even lose the extra dmg. The cards for defiance also mean you lose picks on other important cards. Did a lot of testing with Andro when I did my guide. :)

[@simonsemchenko3056]

Joshino Yeah makes sense

[@dudedudealot3478]

i use pip alot and i use him because he does ok damage and also can heal fast with other benifits such as helping tanks take something and healing others

[@WahooMc]

when it comes to skill ceilings i find champions like androxus, cassie (sort of) and bomb king to be within that cieling because of the carry potential they have, idk why but i also find grover to have carry potential xD hes so fun and op for me to use

[@ArisingHeroBeAHero]

Awesome video as usual! I think Grover should have higher passive heals. Skye should get a movement speed boost for a few seconds when in hidden. grohk's totem should heal 3 times as wide a area to give the ability of healing behind walls.. And Buck needs his old ultimate back and Net shot should be reworked a bit. Lastly Barrick should have 3000 health/

[@stara_garda_3]

Well Kinessa did have an ability to throw the teleporter and then activate it whenever she needs it. That was in the closed beta, and I think it's more usefull than this teleporter that we have now.

[@Jay2097]

Hey what render settings do you use? Specifically, codec and bitrate. Your footage is crispy 60fps

[@armitage5855]

I'm pretty sure kinessa used to have a stationary teleport, and you used to use F to teleport back to it, just like OW's Widowmaker, imo, letting you setup the portal on a safe location, while keeping the delayed teleporting would be enough so Kinessa players are punished for overcommitting and at the same time moving away from the current state of her F that she is basically already dead if the enemy flank gets close to her.

[@MaiMai-ei8mw]

Joshino keep up the good work m8 ☺

[@rattamytata1970]

The Evie nerf did not affect her much, she still has a lot of good cards to pick up. I still use wormhole but I use 2 of it. You can get the one that gives her ammo after using ice block, the blink range increase, the reduce damage done to yourself and stops you from moving backwards after using your weapon and give you health after blinking

[@dizzydwarf6840]

even with the Fernando nerfs he will defiantly be one of the best front lines not only just because of his shielding and flanking capabilities but with his ability to synergize with other champions very well like ying and ruckus

[@jasonsmith-lv5my]

max resilience nullifies bombking. if your flankers are decent at killing, as a tan feel free and confident to invest in resilience to counter grumpy, poppy spamming bk.

[@Crit-Chance]

Funny you should say that, I thought about allowing Ruckus to use the Emitter Shield away from the point, but only when near allies once. But see, as it stands right now, when a good Mal'Damba pockets a good Ruckus, the other team will probably be in for a world of hurt. We've seen this happen. Now giving that Ruckus the ability to use Emitter on top of it because Mal'Damba's near him could be huge. One way this could be balanced would be decreasing the capacity (or duration) of the Emitter Shield based on how far Ruckus is from the point. That would be a good way to allow Ruckus to roam, but still give him an incentive to defend.

[@JustCommonPlain]

Okay Josh, you got me to try paladins... Looks fun.

[@DucksOnQuack]

I use Evie and i love your gameplay on her. Whats the deck you use for her?

[@mattiOTX]

For Skye I think they can give her .75 perfect invisibility that way she can at least avoid non splash damage. I think they would keep from breaking her if you worked a card that was for the smoke bomb. I think hidden should have it with a small blink, maybe 2 or 3 character box worth of length. Not sure the distance in the game.

[@feralknights2792]

I completely agree with Skye absolutely positively 100% *requiring* an accuracy buff. Her damage drops off super hard, which still forces you to stay close up, but her accuracy after shot 4 is so bad that sometimes I think Ruckus has higher accuracy. Comparatively, yeah, Andro's damage tanks out at long range, but his accuracy at long range is *ridiculous*, so he can still contribute to team fights. And I get the point of Skye is to pick off one dude at a time, but that becomes unfeasable in some maps where the only way forward is to try to break up a team fight. They just did too much to Skye way too fast and I've been (super politely) been screaming for two months that they really need to address this. She needs vertical movement, too-- my suggestion has been to give her a vertical wall run while stealthed so she doesn't have to come up precisely the same 1-2 pathways on maps like Timber Mill whereas Andro, Buck, and Evie can fly or jump in from almost any other position. My other suggestion was to revamp Smoke Screen into a self-cast stealth with WASD lunge attached so it gives her the ability to zone in and out in a way similar to literally every other character on the roster. Cassie is her anathema there-- her lunge is so fast, goes so far, and has such a small CD that she can currently completely nullify your stealth advantage and put two arrows in your back while you're still trying to juke the first shot from the front. Admittedly I agree with Cassie being overpowered, too-- if you go to the shooting range and basically stand in the room with Fernando, Ying, and Skye standing side-by-side and then turn and aim down the Skye hallway, you will hit for max damage to the game's draw distance/rendering of the characters. It makes her way too good at every range, and if Sha Lin's thing is to be a sniper, she should be a little more of a mid-range archer. Buck's shotgun also deals too much damage at long range; a few stray pellets still often times do their max damage. I welcome him losing the extra CC in his Heroic Leap, though-- because he had that CC, he has an active CC, gigantic HP especially for a flank, a self-heal, and patently insane close-range damage.

[@durnyboy8310]

I feel like in order to buff Kinessa they should maybe increase the time her ult lasts(I don't play kinessa) and for grohk I feel like if they added a shielding totem or a damage increasing totem would help him a lot

[@jeelpatelofficial]

YING is awesome...some practice with aiming and teleportskill but then she is just badass

[@yassir-5605]

best card is psring bloom,then you just spam illusions,put 1,use shatter,and you can already respawn another,so 500 damage almost every 3 seconds,plus they target and your primary is strong,ying main here :D

[@jedpeg_6412]

Hang on? Did that graph say ruckus is underpowered compared to Cassie?! That is not true. A half decent ruckus can shred Cassie to pieces especially if this ruckus is on the objective.

[@gytisdramblewolfskis8521]

a half decent cassie can destroy ruckus, all you need is a tiny cover. and there's more than that in every map. she can also commonly make ruckus go out go out of the objective.

[@jedpeg_6412]

gytis dramblewolfskis Fair enough. It seems most of the cassie players I encounter (apart from a select few) are quite aggressive and often have either completely abandoned a hiding spot or, once I've opened fire, they just ain't fast enough. I do however get that they can just spend into the extra dmg to shields perk at the start or during the match an that make ruckus next to useless (especially if an attacker or flanker buys the perk (or Sha Lin))

[@gytisdramblewolfskis8521]

JedPlays the strenght of cassie by big part is somewhat like flanker, she can do her long jumps every few seconds with great skill and correct cards, but even without being like a pro you can jump around the map quite a lot. her damage is also huge, that throwback hit, get enemy confused, let's cassie do second shot(does more damage) her ulti is almost useless for lower skill players though or maybe that changed played like a month ago last time.

[@jedpeg_6412]

gytis dramblewolfskis Played last week. In the one of my matches there were two people who went Cassie (one on my team, one on the enemy team) and the one on my team did really and got the highest dmg well the one on the enemy team I killed a lot and and got the most deaths in the match. Interpret this in your own way.

[@gytisdramblewolfskis8521]

JedPlays you're giving me an example, seriously?

[@thunder7135]

I've read some old tutorials about Kinessa (8 months old) and from what I've read, I figured out that her Teleporter ability looked pretty different (AND MUCH BETTER) back then. If I understood right, she could plant her teleporter somewhere on the first tap, and when you tapped the ability again, she would teleport to the transporter... Am I right? And if so, why did they nerfed it in such a horrible way... It was an instant-blink ability, but needed preparation and a less obvious spot for a nice refuge. Now, every time I get flanked, I instantly deploy the teleporter but NEVER actually manage to teleport to it, or even worse. I teleport to it while being already dead...

[@jake939]

I use reprieve for Evie and I'm really good at stalling. There are so many matches that I have been a big part of winning because everyone dies I just stall at the objective until they come back. I mean, yes I die once they come back, but they usually get a point without me.

[@Marhathor]

What's your opinion on Androxus after the OB40 nerf?

[@dynoko3295]

hes shit

[@Marhathor]

He's actually very potent, probably moreso than Evie. The problem you're seeing is: You're shit at playing him. Your own words, m8.

[@dynoko3295]

i've never played androxus but i've never died to androxus ever. He doesn't do much damage and he can easily die.

[@Marhathor]

In the wrong hands, yes. But if you take 3-4 hits from a decent player, you're dead. If he absorbs a lot of damage, like one of a few ults... you're dead. A good Androxus can dodge a few shots and absorb some good damage, shielding himself. Protecting himself. In some cases even his team. He kill a target in as little as 2 shots from his revolver. Androxus... is so much more than what you have seen. He has a high skill cap though.

[@dynoko3295]

i only play training with bot teams ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@cleg6y]

I am a Pip main and I use him as more of a support than flanker like other poeple play him as. My Loadout rewards me for not healing myself but other people. As Pip I am always kn the point nor ally with a frontline because the flask can heal us both. Weightless I use as an escape mechanism. Right click I use to help my team finish off enemies.

[@victoryeep]

+Joshino hey I've been playing Paladins for a month now and im running into the problem where my team is trash and we lose in 4 minutes or I get completely carried for 4 minutes. it just doesn't feel fun for me to improve anymore, do you have any tips?

[@bretth9114]

so that are taking buck jump away that would ruin him

[@HS-fb9tw]

about fernandos ult you forgot to mention that it protects your teammates too and it counters Drogoz ult

[@BalintHejja94]

What a funny tier list :D I agree with the Dmg and Flank part, thats true. Front line: Yes, fernando has a big shield. But thats all... It's good at pro scene I agree. But when Plebs playing competitive it's worse than makoa and barik. A shield won't win you the game when your team is 0... But Barik can carry a game alone, he can easily shield the most and even damage in the same time, also you don't rely on your support that much because the turret sustain. I speak from experimence. The second best is Makoa, and the reason is what you said. A good makoa picks out champs, and you can insta kill that target, also a good ult can win the game, over 10k health and aoe AA is strong as hell. And the supports... Hello people. Grokh is single handedly the best. I rarely even die with grokh, you can rotate heal and ghost walk all game long, you right click has a super high range, and it can dismount enemyes when they are coming back to the point. And with the 4% max health card, his totem is the best healing tool. But yea, I admit thet his ult is not the best, but its still pretty op. So the order is: 1, Grokh 2, Ying/mal'damba (they are pretty close to each other, Ying is a safer pick, depends on you need some cc, or just raw heal.) 3, Grover and Pip is a Flanker, don't try to lie yourself :D

[@1oace768]

Drogoz has projectiles which are hard to aim and his fire spit requires you to shoot it at the perfect time to create damage.

[@dcmy5146]

Joshino, great analysis of the tier lists but I will have to disagree with your point on Fernando's ultimate there. the AOE is just so big and everyone affected couldn't be brought below 1500hp. IMO this ultimate is meant for the support and damage classes when the team is death balling. Their HPs are low and with the help of Fernando's ultimate, they will stay on a high % of HP, which greatly extends their survivability. I usually use Fernando's ultimate to counter Bomb King's ultimate, and it is fairly effective.

[@Ofir_R]

You are right on the abilities but not the choosing

[@TheBeeferoni]

Does reduced healing reduce support healing other players or does it reduce the rate at which enemies heal in general? And btw I think tyra and viktor are the most op I've never done bad with tyra

[@crapwithanopinion2919]

wow... paladins was so different back then, I miss it :(

[@teki0s]

Grover could easily have a left click melee and right click long range. He has to be in the fight anyway to heal more efficiently. That would make him much more interesting

[@jackduke7121]

Androxus: I agree with everything he said make the right click a little more accurate and do 400 damage and it would be a good move.

[@brien6172]

Ah, I remember when I mained Fernando. The days when I could kill entire teams by myself with that fireball... those were the days.

[@leinadlink]

Does anyone else get the problem where when they ult with androxus they can only shoot 3 times?

[@marshallberical4440]

love when I can skip a 6 second ad but not a fucking 2 minute one

[@gjikopulliT]

im a viktor main and im proud af , btw can i ask you something how come i have a diamond border on viktor even tho i havent played competitive with him

[@zut8448]

Why were not all the champions on the reddit thread?

[@lek289]

IMO it depends, I've had a really good match as ruckus where because the enemy had a barik and Fernando I got wrecker lvl 3 and the ult charge rate. I popped a ton of ults that game and absolutely Melted their team. I don't think he is super viable though due to needing a team comp around him. Also maldamba with deft hands can be OP. Constantly CCing someone while supporting your team is amazing, stunning an enemy flank or tank allows your team a massive advantage.

[@ZinugiaTwitch]

Hey Joshi', is it possible to play with you in a event or something ?

[@WolfGamez1]

i totally agree about grohk( who is my support main). His Ghost Walk needs a speed increase and his healing totem needs to do more(maybe his totem can also increase the damage output of allies). #SaveTheEndangeredGrohk

[@lmaotofu]

hv a great day josh :)

[@JoshinoGaming]

It is early morning, I am off to bed :P

[@roobarb2375]

Although I have to agree with cassie probably being the most powerful, although their damage outputs are very low, champions like ruckus or makoa are very useful, ruckus provides mild area denial and spam and makoa can drop supports very easily.

[@allylove1338]

i honestly thing the best way to get skye back is to lessen her drop off, she doesn't no damage when your not right right up in peoples faces, and i honestly think he clip size needs to be higher. its hard to make the best use of 20 really quick shots and then have a long ass reload.

[@genericbauble9633]

She throws darts in and slaps it. She has a very fast reload.

[@rokoloncar6947]

Viktor is op, when u know how to play him...

[@stefanmorariu9909]

i have cassie at Rank 8... i played like 2 hours... and i don't use roll 3 times... but i have like all cards for blast shot... i love her.

[@E1337N3SS]

I honestly think Bomb King should be ranked higher than viktor. He might not put out as much damage, but he has an infinitely more useful kit. He's probably the only character in the game that can single handedly force players to not pick haven or blast shield just because his stuns are so potent, and with his healing on bomb explosions combined with his ability to disengage on a short cooldown, he can DAMN bear function as an extra tank with haven mid-late game

[@iarlucs]

They should make Grohk the totem god. He should have as abillities: A heal Totem(6 seconds) that heals for 250/second , A shield Totem who gives 200 shield/second(4 seconds), A speed totem who increases allies' movement by speed by 35% and it has a very large AoE (4 seconds) and the ult should be a stealth totem for the whole team(8 seconds), It also has a big AoE and makes allies in the are invisible. His basic attacks should be him calling spirits from His placed totems and throwing the at enemies. You can call one spirit per totem every 2 seconds that deals 200 dmg, but the spirit from the ultimate totem would deal 300 dmg. The range of wich he can call spirits is unlimited.

[@tifoonlegit5768]

*Makoa and Grover are my favorite characters, but I think that Makoa's damage should be increased from 600 to 750, and they need to buff the damage drop-off(it's freaking awful), they also need to make his hook throw straight, not slightly to the left. * As for Grover, his healing is kinda low, but consistent. However, if the enemy has cauterize, Grover is done for. they need to increase the range of his AOE healing( and possibly increase its healing)and just increase is healing in general. his axe is incredible at long range, but to heal anyone, he needs to be close to them, which means he cant use his high damage potential. so i think the should decrease the range which it does its highest damage possible and increase the axe projectile speed.

[@thepancakeprotecter8661]

I think Maeve is overpowered and ruckus is plain trash

[@tobobbles3881]

Fernando the best support?

[@thesmiteguy7619]

Fernando the best support

[@JoshinoGaming]

Tobobbles Those heals! - meant frint liner

[@thesmiteguy7619]

Joshino You meant frint liner?Ok haha :D

[@tobobbles3881]

Joshino yea it was just a joke, love your videos btw

[@JoshinoGaming]

TheSmiteGuy Frintnando

[@Kraedadday]

Will Fernando's ult negate Drogoz ult?

[@foxyg1079]

With wich program you record your vids?

[@KaptainCnucklz]

Hmmm... Last I played was OB 36. The game need more stealthy Skye mains? I had decent game sense for it, from what my friends told me. I made a few Viktors piss themselves. Skye generally was my main, besides Pip or Fernando if we lacked a healer or tank.

[@Steamed_Ham40]

Hey Josh, you have played Tf2 right?

[@gigachirps4848]

If you know what you're doing, grohk is one of the best supports cause he heals so much under a long period of time and the best champ to take down Shields 2770 health a second on a shield for 5 seconds when you have maxed wrecker

[@Hakirts]

One way to make grohk better is make it so hes able to place his totem ontop of the payload.... i mean barik can do it with his turrets so why not grohk with the totem?

[@kickerbs]

as a player who has mainly played grohk since i first came into the game back in January, i believe he has lost his unique position as the aoe slow burn off tank he used to be in, i am not a fan of the direction they turned him into, with the changes to his right click it feels like they try to justify his low damage by giving him a slow, but in reality noone takes advantage of it, and it just gives the enemy more time to aim at your face and kill you, i missed when he used to be a tank and had the giant bubble around the totem, it wasn't so much shielding that noone could get on point, but it wasn't so little that the enemy could burn it in a second. He should either be re classed into a hybrid role, as a damage and healer while giving back his aoe damage potential, or as a tank support, and give his totem the shield back to make him unique enough to take above someone like mal'damba or grover.

[@zachy2314]

Gonna have to disagree with the sha lin diagnostic, you have to realize that he is a sniper who can take care of himself against flankers. Not only this, but he also is able to shred tanks and put single shot stuns and knockbacks. Sha lin has a much higher skill ceiling than i would argue any damage. I like where he is

[@nickattnyte]

Hey everyone, I just got into paladins and have been running Tyra and Maeve. I would like to know are these good characters? What are the top 3 best characters?

[@emersonbento1600]

That is your opinion.You should go to training and go to shooting range to check each champion.Whoever you like best buy it and use it.Its simple.

[@doksfrommars]

They should move pip to the flank category for sure.

[@baronsionis6855]

Yo, who should I buy, Androxus or Drogoz

[@terrimiest2707]

Torvald has the most hp not fernanado

[@matic5841]

How do you get twitch symbol on bomb king's grumpy bomb?

[@matic5841]

Sorf Mern thanks

[@drweegee1337]

Honestly, I think lowering Cassie's damage and allowing her to perform headshots would make her more balanced, alongside fixing the hitbox of her arrows.

[@TBaron2865]

Do you play with your fans/make viewer games

[@jakoblueg1354]

Sha Lin is OP! This Damage......OMG

[@weeb7778]

Jakob Lueg yes but he needs positioning to do the damage.

[@johnhavering3543]

press Q if you are about to die lol

[@cobaltsnake1661]

he needs positioning AND can't fire immediatly

[@johnhavering3543]

Cobalt Snake he doesnt need to he just stunts you or just go invinsible

[@TheSonicShoe]

umm... I hate to break it to you, but his dps is actually incredibly low for a damage dealer. it just feels really high because it all comes in one big burst as opposed to several smaller shots. don't get me wrong, he's not bad, far from it, but he's pretty tame compared to cassie and vicktor, or even BK and Drogoz.

[@die4icecream386]

hey joshino...can u plz telll me why the hell hirez banned my 2 paladins account ...plz help me

[@AlainDuplan]

Idk why drogoz is so high up, he has such a big hit box in the air so it's very easy to shoot him down

[@pokeaddictish]

Androxous is very powerful, his right click is infact VERY useful went it comes to fighting tanky champions at close range due to the massive bonus damage when all 3 shots hit, in a perfect world (no haven) his right click can in a sense one shot someone like evie due to the bonus damage, his reversal however does need work, the reversal is not splash damage or area damage, hence in order to hit it, the champion needs to be hit directly, making it very hard to hit champions other than frontliners, It needs a very small splash damage range, like the splash damage of Evie's normal attack or drogoz, where if it hits the floor near the champion they still take a bit of damage, hitting the reversal is key to sustain the netherstep kit and since it is so hard to hit Androxous usually cant pull his weight or escape when he needs to and 75% of the time his reversal is useless. The other 25% being against possibly Sha' Lin's Planted or Ruckus' ult or heavy fire from viktor, but hitting smaller champions is very difficult

[@armitage5855]

Unless they have a brain and hands and are able to aim, most. I agree with him being powerful, but he isn't op, it's just that people is retarded and they blame the character because they can acknowledge they or their team are unskilled players, I've seen that, on my own team and on the enemy team, the flank from a team getting 2 kills behind the enemy team and dipshits don't react at all even when they see happen, and I doubt, even if they are 11yo kids, you just can NOT have enough common sense to understand what is going to happen after you end up in a 3vs5 match for the objective, they don't even help their support being bullied by the enemy flank, so what would they do after their support is getting killed over and over again? Call them out for not healing, of course. I main frontline, and I get such shitty teammates that when I get matched with a decent support I ask them to be on the front slightly behind me, because it is safer there than being on the back and getting no help from shithead egotistic damage players. I totally disagree however with Reversal having splash damage, it has a pretty generous hitbox already to get even more chance to hit. On top of being an offensive ability it is also a defensive one, but most people only use it when they have red HP.

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

Freaking love Kinessa. Love snipers. And I usually do the best dmg in the game. I make between 45-70k dmg per game. But I havent played any ranked games so thats probably why I can do it

[@MidnightLunaRose]

Skye needs more stuff. The best she can do is shoot like 6 bullets at a time and, its not very effective. They need to at least giver her a dodgeing move or something. Like give her a few seconds of running.

[@dontquestionmylogic.419]

Cassie has a crossbow...right?

[@Kkiare]

so you want kinnessa to use sombras translocator?

[@andrewpham493]

Dragoman764 more like original Kinessa

[@yikkinikki]

cassie has a crossbow and now we have a new (super op) character