Best and Worst Version of Every Smash Character From Smash 64

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In today's video I talk about what I think is the best and worst version of every Smash character competitively from the original Smash 64 roster. So I will look at every version of the character starting from Smash 64 to Smash Ultimate
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[@SnasDeSnas]

good question

[@leeum20real]

you could put 50 raid ads back to back and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between any of them

[@acnhsasha3085]

@@leeum20realfact

[@linorder22]

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[@silvesta5027]

FUN LARRY FACT: Larry Lurr has defeated the #1 ranked player in tournament play in every single smash game except for smash 64!

[@stevepierce227]

So we would say Larry's worst iteration is 64, and smash 4 would be his best.

[@sheridan5175]

#1 ranked player at the time?

[@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569]

When did he beat the #1 Melee player and who was it that he beat?

[@MeesterTweester]

@@sheridan5175 Yup

[@sheridan5175]

@@MeesterTweester who was it?

[@limbus66]

Watching the Brawl footage is so weird. It reminds me of trying to fight in dreams but your body is too weak to move.

[@Wienerdog5]

r/new sentence

[@theblackbasketball]

The dream part hit me a little too hard.

[@titushoward5648]

I feel that way when I dream too.

[@simanolastname2399]

I imagine this is what watching all other smash games will be like once I get better at melee

[@GrandpaMaxGaming]

I struggle to walk in my dreams, it's so weird

[@stixsis4656]

Kirby was good in 1 game and has been suffering ever since

[@The0-2DemonKing]

Deserved. Hate him.

[@gv82089]

Sakurai is a strict father

[@h8thegr8]

Kirby is a decent mid-tier in Brawl. Make that two games.

[@shadownite3378]

@@h8thegr8 if you're not top 10 in brawl, you were trash (or at least not solo viable). That's just how brutal that game was

[@h8thegr8]

@@shadownite3378 Kirby vs. Falco (assuming he got his powerup) is seen by a large majority of the modern Brawl community as an even matchup. And his Of course he gets walled out by MK/ICs/Olimar, but his general matchup spread against the other characters above are a minus 1, or even, which is not as bad as you may think.

[@SeriousStriker]

Crazy how Brawl is the worst iteration of like half the characters in the Smash series.

[@illford]

yeah but i miss some brawl characters. DDD and Marth my beloved

[@emanueltheodorus1056]

Best for Meta Knight (obviously), Ice Climbers, King Dedede, Diddy Kong, and Snake tho.

[@SeriousStriker]

@@emanueltheodorus1056 Pre-patch Smash 4 Diddy > Brawl Diddy. Otherwise you're right about the rest.

[@Finnmos]

Most likely, because in brawl, you were either viable or completely useless, and there's very little in-between

[@monchete9934]

And many of them are bad because either they are vulnerable to chaingrabs, are combo characters in a game where everyone is on PMLG state, they have a bad MU against Meta Knight or they are just horrible (Ivy, Ganon)

[@h-man1371]

64 Kiby's up-tilt was the original Brawl Snake up-tilt.

[@aesthetic-moon-wave]

Or the other way around

[@illford]

@@aesthetic-moon-wave no its the right way

[@TheBadBuffalo]

Extremely long hitstun will go a long way to make everyone viable in 64, it’s no wonder it was a 5 stock game

[@TheBadBuffalo]

And they’ll still kill you on hit

[@Mr__Jack]

@@ABC-ik9vj Link and Luigi may be the worst, but they still have things they can do. Luigi’s combo game is fantastic in a game where having a good combo game is highly rewarded. Link honestly wouldn’t even be bad if it wasn’t for his dogshit recovery (same with Ness). Considering he’s the only zoner in the game, he can actually get away with camping you out with bombs. Everybody in 64 can put in work, even if some characters are better than others. It’s not like Melee where half the cast is unusable garbage, with most being outright unfinished (Mewtwo, Game and Watch, Ness), and you have to be a literal God to do well with any character below 7th or so.

[@tytonwiseman7995]

​@@Mr__Jack don't forget Roy, he wasnt finished in melee either, which is sad

[@playstationarusu]

​@@ABC-ik9vj Bombs are a good projectile in 64. Between that and boomerang he can camp you out very well

[@hoovybeast0594]

​@@Mr__JackHonestly agreed with everything except the part about viable characters in Melee. The way how the meta has developed has more than half the cast viable imo. But idk much

[@alexmacdougall5700]

the fact there is a worse link than 64 link is rough

[@btf_flotsam478]

He does put Smash 64 on a pedestal, however. I can imagine him diving into it and wondering why he's losing stocks so fast.

[@leaffinite2001]

Im suspect of brawl link being worse than 64 but idrk. Also 64 dk sucks too, but he has regrabs and brawl dk gets regrabbed so i get that one.

[@ChaseTrent]

The thing with Fox, is that at the end of Brawl's life, he was climbing the tiers. If Brawl kept going, maybe he could have still ended up in high tier. Just speculation of course, but hey, it's all we can do with Brawl now.

[@illford]

People very much still play brawl. Its small but its definitely active

[@plumebrise4801]

@@illford No.

[@AirMadeKat]

@@plumebrise4801 Wdym

[@angrypepe7615]

I'd say brawl is still clearly his worst. He's regarded as a top tier in every other smash game.

[@Maafia]

I appreciate the 64 knowledge, as a 64 pro, alot of people who are unfamiliar with the game automatically think the lower tiers are unusable (like other smash games) you perfectly explained that even tho they are lower on the list, they are still a power house. Not many people know or understand that, thanks for such a great video

[@thejedisonic67]

Aside from perhaps Link and Luigi the other characters do stand some of a chance against the high tiers from experience

[@HKip]

​@@thejedisonic67Isai convinced me 64 Luigi isnt as bad as i thought.

[@frankunodostres473]

this is a great idea, I had this conversation lots of times^^ I agree with pretty much all of these, brawl wasn't a nice game for combo heavy characters

[@Brahyan.]

I’ve always wanted someone to make a video like this glad someone finally did it!!

[@illford]

For grapplers and zoners it was pretty good. DDD, Snake, ICs, ZSS, Marth (Kinda) were all good

[@lapplandkun9273]

You mean brawl wasn' a competitive game. Imagine trying to make a sequel game that was intended to be casual for competitive

[@connormcnulty6377]

Fun Jigglypuff fact, in Brawl, if she runs out of jumps, she will spam Pound until she hits the blast zone. Pound’s vertical gain was reduced going into Brawl, so you have to listen to her all the way down.

[@mikeroux2652]

Idk Larry brawl jigglypuff was the worst thing ever created on a screen. In smash 4 at least she can spam rest out of bayo combos

[@SeriousStriker]

Smash 4 Puff might've been buffed from Brawl, but she was lower on the tier list then Brawl Puff. So it's a 50/50 tbh. They're both garbage.

[@the_bookworm8281]

SSB4 Puff is definitely the worst Puff. Brawl Puff at least still possesses great aerial frame data, down air trip -> Rest which has a generous 50% chance of occurring, and is in a game where most characters can be trivially edgeguarded by its wall of pain. SSB4 Puff while it definitely gained more power, is hurt immensely by numerous frame data nerfs (particularly to landing lag), losing out on down air trip -> Rest with its new KO combos being more situational, and being in a game where recoveries are extremely strong and more difficult to edgeguard across the board. SSB4 Puff does have some stuff over Brawl Puff, but in the end, it is choosing which pile of turd is the stinkiest.

[@MeesterTweester]

Yeah while she was last on the tier list in Smash 4, she's better than her Brawl version, and actually had results

[@LordPhilipJFry]

The removal of edgehogging REALLY hurt her because it made gimping nearly impossible. Literally the only thing she was good at and it only worked against a few characters with really bad recoveries. That's what makes her worse in Smash 4.

[@illford]

​@@MeesterTweester i mean she did lose all of her excellent ledge play

[@ShaunMoore]

The Video Starts at 2:07

[@klawthechocobo158]

The crazy part about this: You aren’t wrong. Brawl sucked for a lot of these characters.

[@djdrizzy9139]

Kirby's best and worst version is so clear-cut lol. Need Smash 6 to revamp Kirby and make him top tier again!

[@SillyRyemoment]

What’s smash 6??

[@GlitchanBlack]

Clearly you haven't watched Copperhead.

[@SillyRyemoment]

@@GlitchanBlack No. I haven’t. What is it?

[@Mr__Jack]

I’m still shocked that they somehow managed to make Jigglypuff worse than she was in Brawl

[@the_bookworm8281]

They fought to themselves: ok, we fixed the main issue of her moves being unsafe on hit and gave her more overall KO power, so lets give the character largely air-game focused egregious amounts of landing lag on its aerials. What could go wrong? Also doesn't help that recoveries have been heavily buffed across the board in SSB4, so its main draw of being able to gimp opponents is nowhere near as applicable in SSB4 than in previous games. Losing down air 50% chance to trip -> Rest hurts it a lot as well.

[@TheTrixster690]

and the funny part was that she was BUFFED.

[@mr.v3zo44]

Keep this series going, maybe combine both Melee and Brawl if you have too

[@DootNootem]

I'd argue Ness' best iteration is his NTSC-J regional variant in Smash 64. He has ridiculously disproportionate KO power with all of his smash attacks dealing 19% minimum, Up Air dealing 17% with huge knockback and PK Thunder 2's hitbox staying out for all 28 frames of the move's animation and making him invincible (not intangible, this makes him tank incoming attacks) for 17 frames. Not to mention the insane presence of his DJC.

[@MrLag525]

This video was sick! Hopefully you make videos on the Melee and Brawl newcomers best iterations!

[@dylanr.7760]

Man brawl was goofy as hell. I wonder how many character were at their worst in that game.

[@emanueltheodorus1056]

Mario, DK, Link, Samus, Yoshi, Fox, Luigi, Captain Falcon, Jigglypuff (arguably), Peach, Zelda (arguably), Ganondorf, Pokemon Trainer, Sonic (not bad tho), ROB, and Wolf comes to mind.

[@cloudshines812]

@@emanueltheodorus1056 Lucas and Pit too

[@KO-iw3vu]

I think yoshi is better in ultimate since it took like 20 years to develop the meta for him in melee

[@thegrandfoodapest3337]

Cool idea! Looking forward to melee newcomers

[@HiyokoSupiritto]

Pikahu's "worst" iteration is already better than most, which is impressive to say

[@Pixelslayer]

This video made me really realize kirby never catches a break in smash

[@GlitchanBlack]

Let's see... Kirby in Brawl was a mid-tier, and Kirby in Ultimate got buffed in *_7 UPDATES_* (1.1, 2.0, 3.0, 6.0, 7.0, 8.0, and the final update). Also, if you look at Copperhead's Melee content for Kirby... yeah, Kirby can catch a break in Smash.

[@daonehoova]

Bro why did brawl do most of the og characters so dirty?

[@SonicTheCutehog]

The slower engine and introduction of hitstun cancelling

[@LinktheCommunistWaifu]

Thank god they made BOTW Link good. From the only Zelda game where you can jump freely, it makes sense that he has good mobility. His broken nair also makes sense, because you can upgrade armor in that game.

[@Vixigard]

3:12 a grandmaster in chess is facing smash pro void? What has this world become

[@luckymanx2978]

I think you should include 2nd best or honorable mentions when they are good in 2 games

[@Surgemaster2012]

Brawl Link is trash. But I still think 64 Link is worse.

[@henryreturns1397]

Link on 64 you can do tricks with bombs and boomerang and have insane strings and weird recoveries. Brawl on the other hand due to the cast been bigger and boomerang not having a hit box and "one sided MUs" , it cant win. On 64 Link can have a glimpse of hope because eventhough hit stunts are insane , each character can zero to death each other but Link can run away with the lead due to projectiles kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5qbnXhnqNZ9Z8k Here Isai winning a tournament with Link in 64 , super hype to watch While in Brawl .... well you have Toon Link lmao

[@playstationarusu]

​@@ABC-ik9vj He may not be able to survive a back throw at ledge but he controls space better than most 64 characters and can use his spacing tools to set up true 0 to death combos, or just nickel and dime you until you die to a strong disjointed sword move. There are other characters who similarly can't recover but Link has better onstage presence than them.

[@JoSephGD]

Keep in mind: Fox's Brawl showing still resulted in a C-tier placement. Outside of Brawl, his performance has consistently been A-tier or better. Best competitive Smash fighter of all time.

[@erickgranados6522]

It would have been cool to have PM/+ as honorable mentions of certain characters

[@666blaziken]

most of the characters are the best in their PM state

[@erickgranados6522]

@@666blaziken yeah, that's why it would have been cool to see what they improved to get them there, like the M2 float

[@blocks4857]

PM isn't official tho

[@erickgranados6522]

@@blocks4857 you are 100% correct, that's why I mentioned it as honorable mentions, not as part of the rank itself

[@raghavpatel720]

Ganondorf is a perfect example of being the best he's ever been in PM, not bad but not top tier

[@mrgameandmusic]

Ain't no way this dude saw 64 link and Samus and went "yeah these guys are playable"

[@Migota_]

Brawl link was something else bro. I do think that 64 DK is worse than his brawl generation

[@mrgameandmusic]

@@Migota_ nah, 64 DK actually has grab release cheese that requires a frame perfect roll and has actual combo routes on the top tiers. He does have shit neutral but his Bair is an actual menace, fair being hard to sour spot and dair being a consistent and very active spike makes him a solid and functional character

[@blocks4857]

At least in 64, link could do stuff unlike in brawl where you had an ass recovery and couldn't do anything

[@spidrethe3rd]

I think donkey kong might be gaining relevance in Melee now

[@jedprice7002]

Very interesting watch! Would love to see you do this for Melee and Brawl characters

[@Xearrik]

You know that now you have to do all the rest, right? Right??? 👁👁

[@emanueltheodorus1056]

Meh you only need to do up until Smash 4 anyways

[@phengmoua2389]

Still can’t believe they took away DK’s pimp slap.

[@mlee4815]

actually samus is really good in brawl because it gives you the option to not play samus

[@3eve0n]

Might as well guess the melee characters while waiting for that video: 13. Peach Best: Melee Worst: Brawl 14. Bowser Best: Sm4sh Worst: Melee 15. Ice Climbers Best: Brawl Worst: Ultimate 16. Sheik Best: Melee Worst: Brawl 17. Zelda Best: Ultimate Worst: Brawl 18. Dr. Mario Best: Melee Worst: Ultimate 19. Pichu Best: Ultimate Worst: Melee 20. Falco Best: Melee Worst: Sm4sh 21. Marth Best: Melee Worst: Ultimate 22. Young Link Best: Ultimate Worst: Melee 23. Ganondorf Best: Melee Worst: Brawl 24. Mewtwo Best: Sm4sh Worst: Melee 25. Roy Best: Ultimate Worst: Melee 26. Mr. Game and Watch Best: Ultimate Worst: Melee

[@spookyboo4074]

I think Peach is better in Ultimate than in melee but i agree with you in everything else

[@3eve0n]

@@spookyboo4074 yeah that was a tough one she's really good in both.

[@emanueltheodorus1056]

Bowser's best iteration is Ultimate no doubt. He may not have up throw into up air kill cheese like he used to but everything else about him is just straight up better. Fire breath was way better, side special is ridiculous, the frame three jumpsquat tremendously helped the mobility on what is used to be one of the sluggish character in game. Uncontested best superheavy in this game.

[@NewCoke7]

@@spookyboo4074it’s close but melee down smash makes it… not so close

[@h8thegr8]

Larry “Legend” Lurr Back at it again with another BANGER!

[@Frank-ux6hs]

Brawl: I am about to end this men's whole career

[@baalfgames5318]

8:06 "He has good kill power..." Now I'm wondering if people aren't playing a hacked version of this game, because people seem to regurgitate how broken he is, when in the version I've played, he literally has zero kill options.

[@vstriker7549]

Yoshi’s best could be Melee. With one player, he’s widely agreed to be top 8, and many pros put him in top 6.

[@oblivion2674]

64 Pikachu is among the 2 most dominant characters in the entire series

[@researchinbreeder]

If this series continues, I'm curious what characters would have Ultimate considered their worst iteration? Off the top of my head: Sheik (having her damage hit like that really sucks, combined with her strength in most of her other appearances) Ice Climbers (No practical infinites, and the fact you can screw over their recovery by body blocking Nana should've been patched imo) Meta Knight (Debatable between Ult and 4, but his ladder combos losing consistency is why I put him here) Diddy Kong (arguably not if you include the infinite that got patched out, but even then it's not like he's particularly bad in any of his appearances) Snake (definitely debatable, but the debate is basically Land Mine and bigger Up Tilt vs faster Nikita and universal jumpsquat) [Placeholder Slot for a Brawl vet I'm probably forgetting] Greninja (Insert meme) Duck Hunt (Air dodging out of up-b is nice and all, but Clay Shooting got a bit screwy and hard to get rid of if you miss, which makes Can harder to use) Robin (Again, hella debatable. Arc Thunder got gutted, but Arc Fire does the job now. Jumpsquat helps mobility and setups, but Levin Sword isn't available at the start so it's a lot harder to keep people out initially. I personally like him more in Ult, but it's a fair call if you disagree since Checkmate got reduced). Little Mac (I personally think he's way better in Ultimate due to the engine changes, no side-b freefall, canceling neutral b, and KO Punch poking platforms. But I can see the arguments the other way, like only 1 side b per airtime even after hit and down tilt not being a free 30% delete button with ko online. Faster jumpsquat also makes it easier to escape him) Ryu (RIPyu, Rage Shoryu doesn't delete stocks under 50, and universal jumpsquat makes it a lot easier for the cast to bully him) Cloud, Corrin, Bayonetta (Got their DLC passes revoked. Their moves are now mostly fair, while they had their existing weaknesses expanded due to the expanded roster having tools for them). If you count Small Miis for some reason, then uh, sure? They're here too.

[@emanueltheodorus1056]

Definitely Ice Climbers, Marth, Meta Knight, Diddy Kong, Villager, Ryu, Cloud, Corrin, and Bayonetta. Sheik is worse in Brawl, with her power significantly worse than Melee and also poor endurance. You generally never go Sheik when you have ZSS or Meta Knight. Little Mac is definitely worse in Smash 4 by far, it's just that Ultimate's aerial favoring engine didn't help him shine at all. He has way better recovery options as a whole. Greninja is overall better in Ultimate IMO.

[@researchinbreeder]

@@emanueltheodorus1056 fair, for some reason I misremembered Sheik still being good in Brawl bc the idea of sheik being outright bad feels incorrect ig. Mac I 100% agree is actually better in Ultimate, but I wanted to cover ppl with weird opinions. And Greninja just doesn't feel like it got anything in the transition, while losing footstool true combos. Then again I don't play the character so maybe the engine itself is just that much better for it. Also, not sure how Marth slipped through my list. Mans got gutted in Ultimate. Villager feels almost identical to me when I'm fighting them, and since the characters I tend to play (Samus, Lucina, Ganondorf) are all explicitly better than they were in 4, I just chalked it up to Villager being stronger too.

[@DarthCrust66]

I was surprised to see 64 Falcon as the best version. I always thought the melee one was the best.

[@StylesX2]

secure the bag goat

[@Rubnotienenombre]

they have done my boy kirby dirty for longer that it should be

[@man-ku1pc]

3:50 funfact: the probably best brawl dk player, ook beat mikehaze who was one of the best players while mikehaze was using dedede. Mikehaze mained marth, didn't know how to do the infinite, and was on green greens but that doesn't matter

[@the_Dragg]

Sick video Larry. Looking forward to the next one

[@gabrielpritchard]

Ain’t no way I’m watching this for the first time and hearing the outro music be the Team Galactic HQ theme and I’m playing Platinum while watching and bring in the Tram Galactic HQ. What a coincidence

[@fluffcake]

Sakurai dropping his son to bottom tier in smash shows there is no mercy to your faves being nerfed

[@ManusMeridiem]

Hope you're making one for all the characters.

[@Aidan_B_Young]

I’d argue in Link’s case that his Smash 64 iteration is the worst, mainly because of his recovery, or rather a lack there of.

[@mauricesteel4995]

Link recovery in Brawl was almost as bad, and comparatively worse considering Brawl has many awesome recoveries, while everyone not named Pikachu recovery sucked. And a Tether is an option but Tethers were awful kn Brawl anyway as they were easy to edge hog.

[@AK_.]

Everyone sucked in brawl lol

[@Superemie401]

Well… almost everyone.

[@SiMgUrL1721]

You can now even say that Jigglypuff sucks. LOL

[@plabcentral630]

Anybody else remember trifoce tier in brawl? I miss the game su much.

[@DreamlandKing]

Best Luigi in my opinion was Ultimate because 0-death grab combo

[@raghavpatel720]

Smash 4 pre patch Luigi was waaaaay better

[@TheLobsterCopter5000]

Technically Pound DOES let Jigglypuff rise in Smash 4, but it barely goes anywhere so it's not really worth using.

[@mikelpelaez]

9:47 Luigi is often considered to be the worst character in smash 64, it has to suck so much in brawl to be considered the worst iteration of the character, poor Luigi .

[@alejoperdo174]

Brawl's low and bottom tier characters are the stuff of comedy tbh They look so horrendously bad that you can't help but laugh

[@mikelpelaez]

@@alejoperdo174 Ganondorf and ivysour specially come to mind

[@SiMgUrL1721]

@mikelpelaez Well. Luigi originally had a pretty broken, deadly Uppercut move in Smash 64 to the point where it was significantly less powerful in the rest of the Smash titles. Since Smash 64 was much more balanced as a fighting game than Brawl was, I can even say that Luigi wasn't actually a bad character at all in Smash 64. Just because that a character is ranked as a Low tier, it doesn't necessary make them a bad character if they still have useful moves in their kit.

[@trevoreyre2775]

The best version of Kirby is obviously Melee. I have a many times caused my opponents to shed salty tears after beating them with this absolutely busted character.

[@SuperDuperNick]

Will you do this for the Melee & Brawl characters too?

[@beefyblom]

8:22 brawl confirmed best smash game

[@LuckyHamburger]

Predictions (I have barely played ultimate) Pika: best 64, worst ultimate Kirby: Best 64, worst Melee CF: 64, Brawl Fox: Melee, Brawl Yoshi: 64, 4 Puff: Melee, Brawl Mario: 4, Brawl Samus: Melee, Brawl DK: 4, 64 Ness: 4, Brawl Link: 4, 64 Luigi, 4, Brawl

[@ErizoMetalico]

Hear Me Out, Someone Should Remake Smash 64 But Everyone Is In Their Best Iteration Like In This Vid Cause I Need To See Hyphotetical Meta Out Of It

[@yummyanthony]

Bruh the fact that 9/12 worst is brawl shows how bad that game was I still love it and it’s good casual game but competitively it’s trash the only viable characters were the newcombers plus ice climbers

[@SiMgUrL1721]

The only thing that I don't even remotely like about Brawl is how characters can just randomly trip out of nowhere. LOL You're actually right that most of the newcomers were pretty good in Brawl except for Ike, Pokemon Trainer, Sonic, and Lucas. (I can't place the hyphen above the letter "E" in Pokemon.)

[@izzy8407]

Brawl sounds like a nightmare lol

[@Balthazar228]

Best DK: Smash 4 Project M DK: Hold my Banana

[@ThingSomeRandom]

I’d say DK is worse in 64 than in Brawl. Haven’t played a lot of Brawl but I’m fairly experienced with 64. 64 is a combo fest for every character, but you can get free 0 to deaths on DK, he’s slow as hell, and doesn’t even have a good combo game himself. Edit: commented that before watching the whole video, and I have to say fair point. Although I would say DK and Luigi might be exceptions, that’s only because I haven’t really played Brawl much in a competitive sense. Great video overall!

[@jacksonbranby]

This is an awesome idea for a series

[@tomfoolery2885]

I like how you used alpharads iconic luigi footage for the luigi segment

[@zinith4524]

I find it interesting that the two games Yoshi are not competitive in are the ones where the whole community just gave up altogether, Brawl and Smash 4

[@areyouserious2800]

Bro, Brawl was a low point for so many characters

[@Feliloler750]

1:46 NAX THE GOAT

[@superdubdub]

Great vid. I've thought about exact concept a bunch and agree with a majority of your takes. Pika by far the best overall and imo Link the worst.

[@trickywickbow5536]

64 Falcon over melees Falcon? I’m surprised but fair enough

[@Big_Human]

It's like brawl did to everyone what Tekken 5 did to jin

[@jaxonmonroe4940]

Skip to 1:28

[@javathehunt790]

Going back and looking at these videos about smash games before 4 that I played without research and seeing frame data and speed and what not… it’s no reason I got my ass kicked. You can’t play your favorite character Alot of the time, but you can play the your favorite viable character and win sometimes!

[@lapplandkun9273]

so basically every smash game minus 64?

[@javathehunt790]

@@lapplandkun9273 exactly! 😆

[@natecgames4612]

One thing I noticed is that some characters are bad in brawl because of how the game panders to casual audiances. The bros can't hit for anything, and Luigis shield looks like a fair trade for the G-00 grab in ultimate, not brawl. Any character that was decent literally got walled by Dedede. And making a trip mechanic on falcon is so cruel.

[@Nikkerman]

You're willin if you think Melee Pikachu, a character that has won a major is the worst iteration, it's gotta be brawl by default

[@Nikkerman]

Tho besides that I love the idea for this series

[@the_bookworm8281]

Melee Pika only won a major after 20+ years of playing of the game being optimized. Brawl Pika's moveset as a whole is pretty much an upgrade over the Melee version, as well as fitting well in Brawl thanks to its mobility and chaingrabbing. There is a reason why late Brawl was the peak of ESAM's career results-wise.

[@SeriousStriker]

@@the_bookworm8281 I'm pretty sure the peak of ESAM's career is Glitch 8.5 in Ultimate, where he won a major over Leo. He hasn't won a major over the #1 best player in any other Smash game so...

[@the_bookworm8281]

@@SeriousStriker That specific point is probably the peak of his career, but his results is widely inconsistent at that time (and still to this day). The era that I mentioned is back when ESAM was a consistent top 10, close to top 5 player in the world.

[@CharlotteMimic]

Melee Ness makes me sad

[@Nathanuniverse]

Thanks!

[@BookerDeWitt1]

I'd say 64 Link is the worst cuz of the recovery

[@bonkeykong858]

2:14 video starts

[@666blaziken]

I would argue that sm4sh pika is worse than melee pikachu because of pikachu struggling to kill in 4 as well as less movement options. In melee, pika has chaingrabs against spacies, a frame 3 nair that can kill early and combi depending on DI, and an upair that spikes.

[@ArtelindSSB]

Can't wait for "Best and Worst Version of Every Smash Character in Smash Ultimate"

[@BLUPotatoSpy]

Me and my friend one day had the same idea and talked amongst ourselves for all characters

[@ojeinoway6968]

Great Video, can't wait for the Melee Characters!

[@NintendOscar13]

Melee Captain Falcon: Am I a joke to you

[@cloudshines812]

Melee CF is 6th out of 26. He’s neither the best nor worst

[@SunsetInStone]

this was a really sick video, great work larry

[@banditimaclubyou8388]

Worst characters aka Brawl

[@detectiveg7885]

you should continue this series for characters with 3 or more smash appearances

[@Wienerdog5]

I'm gonna have to disagree with Mario being best in 4, but this is a neat concept, cant wait to see the series.

[@emanueltheodorus1056]

Smash 4 Mario's Down throw into up tilt is free 40% for many characters, also amazing ladder combos (big thing in Smash 4) that allows him to kill anyone freely.

[@FoxySpartan117]

Melee Fox is peak! Samus needs Dread or Prime

[@pabzplayz2330]

Score for Each Game 64: 4 Melee: -1 Brawl: -8 Wii U: 3 Ultimate: 3 Placements 5th: Brawl 4th: Melee 3rd: Ultimate (cuz Wii U got it's points 1st) 2nd: Wii U 1st: 64

[@RoninCatholic]

Ironic that Ness, who is primarily a _healer_ in his own game, is weak at _recovery_ in Smash.

[@perrytheplatypus7995]

Man braw; did the n64 fighter dirty like most of there's worst game where brawl.

[@raghavpatel720]

We need more videos like this Larry!

[@Bradyboy26]

i would like to make the argument that ness while in theory better in ult had better tournament results in smash4

[@The_Batman_]

The Smash 64 cast had it rough with smash brawl