Best Characters Ranked (F4 Update): Tutorial & Community Rankings

The Shadow of Doom DLC brought us 6 new characters. The Fantastic Four, Dr. Doom, and a secret bonus character. In this video, I give a tutorial/guide on each new character and how best to maximize them through gameplay and iso's.
In previous videos, I asked the community to vote on the best characters in the game which allowed me to create a ranking for all characters in the game. At the end of the video, I will have a chart that shows the updated rankings that include the new characters.
Discord:
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MUA3 Base Character Stat Sheet:
(KZbin won't let me link excel sheets directly, but below is a link to the original reddit post by Thanos/Xyro77 with the excel link)
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[@superficialwannabe]

I unlocked Phoenix!! Omg it was a challenge, but now I can continue living!! :D

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Nice!!!! She’s phenomenal so I know you’ll enjoy her!

[@idiotsandwich2605]

I feel your pain

[@McGreezio]

I just got her after stop playing for like a year cause I couldn’t beat it. Finally can rest in piece

[@darandomdog]

Pov: You lvl up like 3x the lvl so you beat it easily (because that's what I did)

[@mikevalentine8369]

WOOOW! Props on that excel list

[@Lwiis64]

Wow! This was a very well done breakdown video of the new characters. Excellent job! I am also glad Doom didn't disappoint. Was very much looking forward to him. None of them disappointed, to be honest.

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Thank you! And Yeah all of them are great! At first I expected to put thing lower but he’s really grown on me a lot through the past couple weeks of playing him more. Doom is my favorite though

[@irastefan7774]

Sorry to be so off topic but does any of you know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account? I was stupid lost the login password. I love any assistance you can give me.

[@rileygage6454]

@Ira Stefan instablaster =)

[@irastefan7774]

@Riley Gage i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and Im in the hacking process now. Seems to take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.

[@irastefan7774]

@Riley Gage It did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D Thanks so much, you really help me out !

[@MyHandle4455]

I'm very late to the game, having played it once through back when it first came out and am just picking it up again now. Your channel is great. Awesome content!

[@bigpapan.g3245]

Still weird how we got 2 variations of Thanos. Though it does kinda make sense, still woulda been nice to had seen someone else in one of those spots. Apocalypse woulda been a crazy lad to run. Maybe a playable Dormammu... potential you know.

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Those would’ve been awesome! My hope had been for Silver Surfer. They probably chose Infinity Thanos since people were complaining about not getting to use him with the stones. Also, he was probably really easy to implement since all his moves were already in the game (from boss fights). So it wasn’t like building a totally new character

[@blackpinkonly3242]

Should've given the spot to Rogue or Vision.

[@Hounddog3380]

Why are you hating on thanos you should be happy they are giving someone who is powerful and not nerf.Sliver surfer Is just a naked guy with a surfboard also sliver

[@bigpapan.g3245]

@@Hounddog3380 there is no hate for Thanos here. He is an awesome addition and many are grateful his Gauntlet version was even added, rather than getting nothing. However, it would been nice to see a new character instead.

[@Hounddog3380]

@@bigpapan.g3245 then who will a character who was already in the previous games yeah some are sad that a mirror character is the best and the only character that doesn't have a second appearance in the game as a character even though he is unique his iso-8 his heavy attack his abilities heck they even gave him the red spike pillar in the fourth hit and sorry just can't stand hearing disappointed in thanos infinite be grateful he isn't nerf they even made his abilities better than thanos boss fight

[@Chun-believable]

I was waiting for this 😍

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Haha 😂 sorry for the delay!

[@josehagevoort1895]

Fantastic video thank you

[@McAwesomePants69]

About the Thing's heavy attack, it's not the only heavy attack that can charge, since at least Cable's can as well

[@omega_ultima9362]

Something I have noticed that should be factored in, that solidifies Ms. Marvel as slightly superior to Reed: When you use both characters together, they both can spinnergize, but when Marvel spins, reed's AI follows her, when Reed spins, Marvel's AI stays stationary.

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Oh very interesting 🤔 I’ll have to try that out myself. Thank you for letting us know!

[@Ellie-dj3kr]

I was very happy to help with this video!! I am sad that we couldn't figure out doing the original plan but, this works out too! :DD It's been great playing her and honestly feel so honored that you asked me to help :]]

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

You’re definitely the expert and I’m sorry we couldn’t find a way to help you go more in depth. But you have great points!

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

AlwaysNerdy TV we have a misunderstanding. I didn’t even know your channel existed until recently. When I originally made the channel, I thought of the name “Always Nerdy” and searched it like that. If you type the name into the KZbin search bar with a space in the middle, your channel doesn’t pop up, so I never saw you. However, KZbin names are like usernames and pretty much every channel name has a duplicate or similar one. So as much as I don’t like the idea of sharing a name with you, that’s just how KZbin is. I’ve invested money into the channel and securing it’s name on other platforms, so I’m not changing it at this point. I’m not going to ask you to change yours either. I never saw your name and had no intention of duplicating anything. Whether you believe me or not, we coincidentally had the same idea for a name. But I hope that clears things up on my perspective. I also wish you success in your KZbin endeavors and I hope there is no ill will between us. Always Nerdy Bros ✊ If you would like to discuss it further then you can email me at: [e-mail]

[@tofermartinez4114]

Ellie and Always Nerdy, thanks so much for going so in depth with these characters especially Sue. Yall have done a lot for the community and Always Nerdy you make sure to give us quality videos with a lot of great information. I appreciate you and look forward to Ellie and you giving more Sue related content.

[@Ellie-dj3kr]

​@@AlwaysNerdyTV First of all, I'd like to say this... if you're going to want the attention of an individual, do not comment on a month old video (which is about the time of your last uploaded video, just saying...). You've had ample time to be an adult and address our Nerdy if you felt this strongly about the gripe you have on a user name. But the one chance you did use to address him, you tried to threaten him with fake legal action? You know, at this point... I dont even feel sorry for you. You didn't think it through enough to know that anything involving the copyrights wouldn't come through you in a KZbin comment. And if we are being EXTREMELY honest with ourselves... No one even knows who you are. Our Nerdy has amassed almost 4k subscribers and you've had the account WAYYYY before him. (Your words, not ours.) Whereas.... you don't even have 1? We're NOT going to compare the two. So yes, since Nerdy is so sweet and won't tell you, I have. You've lost all credibility to handle the situation as an adult since you've now lied and are harrassing and including others into your tired and baseless stance on the matter. ;)

[@capademariposa6992]

@@AlwaysNerdyTV Bro, just let it go. You're trying to defend something that's so trivial. At least this other dude is consistent with what he uploads and that's why I think he has a better following than you. Your channel is quite random and inconsistent. Maybe you should take this opportunity to re-brand YOURSELF as Nerdy Reviews or whatever.

[@lexlovefistwwe9927]

saw some of your summary, nice man, I agreed on phoenix low on durability, she is almost worst at it.. to be honest (aside from her "overpowered" and rebirth abiity/trait, it is one of her downside I guess) I remember couple times using her facing hulks. cap, wolveriene, venom or spiderman which have lower level from me about 10 or 15 to 20,. just with Their 2 -3 hit and ability smash sure hurt a lot , always cost about half of my HP or a little more if I'm not equiping her with green durability ISO and maybe, in terms of strenght, I just realized it on 50:50 accuracy about your summary her light and heavy attack not too bad though... from my opinion

[@SpideyTalks23]

I just shared the video 😉

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

You’re awesome!

[@msvelvetcrowe]

This is my team wasp storm invisible woman and Phoenix basically I call them team broken lol

[@doom3926]

I never got around to unlocking Infinity Thanos so I never knew he couldn’t synergize or use ISOs, that’s interesting. I did have a feeling that he was deliberately made to be crazy powerful though even if not being able to synergize drops him down on the list some and I can kinda get it, there was a similar situation with Hyrule Warriors where Young Link is often considered to be the best character in the game but he actually loses out to some of the other characters because Young Link needs time to build up what makes him powerful and he’s not always going to get that time so characters who are more consistent at all times are just naturally going to perform better than him in every situation including those.

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

That’s pretty accurate for infinity thanos too. He can spam attacks, but you’re getting more out of them if you hold the button to charge them. So he can be slow, But the damage is insane regardless

[@jasonreidy6893]

Is it viable to use the top 4 characters on one team ? Great video btw

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Yeah definitely. Idk if I’d say it’s the best team in the game, since pretty much all teams are viable, but it would be a great team regardless!

[@samjohnson1161]

They should add ant man as a character to play as

[@SpideyTalks23]

We’re are the future foundation suits or is that a new DLC

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Future foundation can be found in chests during the shadow of doom story on superior difficulty

[@aapolantta7508]

You can get them from the phase 3 gauntlets in the Shadow of Doom expansion pass.

[@sevenapollo6882]

I FEEL SO STUPID!! I DIDN'T KNOW THE THING CAN HOLD THE ROCK!!!

[@SuhaylKhatib]

Did they ever end up fixing that Rainbow ISO-8 Stat error?

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

I don’t think so. I haven’t tried it, but you might be able to upgrade it beyond that star error and things might be fine

[@bobisconsumed520]

I wish secret character was Nimrod. Hed be Iron Man and Thor as one, plus it’d be good promotion for X Men, who Marvel wants to boost up for MCU.

[@johnsantos507]

Is Nimrod a villain?

[@coolkeeper0927]

@@johnsantos507 Yes

[@johnsantos507]

@@coolkeeper0927 Ok.

[@bobisconsumed520]

John Santos depends on perspective, he’s a Sentinel in future, so if ur on team humans, he is. If ur on team mutants, hes their death.

[@coolkeeper0927]

@@bobisconsumed520 true. That's probably why most people see him as a villain. Most people side with the main heroes/mutants

[@aapolantta7508]

Why did I have to upgrade that triple iso8, I feel so dumb now. I hope that they'll fix it in a patch that could also add alternate FF skins.

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

It’s an easy mistake to make. Idk what happens if you take it to AA though? I think it’s a data entry error in the first upgrade. It could be corrected in the AA upgrade. You might as well continue upgrading at this point. Let me know if you try it out!

[@aapolantta7508]

@@alwaysnerdyretros I might have already taken it to AA but not totally sure. I'll have to check today when I have the time and let you know.

[@aapolantta7508]

@@alwaysnerdyretros Just checked. I already had it at AA class no difference, ep consumption drops by 9.8%. A shame. I hope that they'd fix it sometime soon but I doubt it. Guess I should have checked the Stat upgrades or downgrades before I upgraded it.

[@rasmillion]

I don’t understand why thing or hulk would need energy

[@sbcollegeguy]

Do you still play this game online?

[@WorldClassSatanist]

Punisher is really good in a game if you learn how to play with him correctly. He's more like a boxer in and out in and out but he does massive damage. I like him

[@chopper20210]

did infinity thanos get nerfed?

[@xyro77]

Superb video as always. iThanos>Doom

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Thank you! Great work on the excel sheet! I’m sure it will help a lot of players

[@LuisRamos-ir5tq]

Goof job buddy !!!!!

[@leopercy7504]

Can you do a in-depth tutorial for each character?

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

I have some guides like this one for the other characters as part of a ranking series. The links below are for those 2 videos. Part 1: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/kITKoWOJeMqghJo Part 2: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJfbmpindrtpf9U

[@JKSVAM_]

A lot says magneto S tier? Is this false

[@Danielwp10]

I like very much the Quicksilver, he can into the Ultimate alliance 3The black order ?

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

He’s not in the game right now 🙁

[@Danielwp10]

@@alwaysnerdyretros Can he come in some DLC soon?

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

No more dlc has been announced so far. But if more dlc ends up getting announced, I’d say he has a good chance :)

[@Danielwp10]

@@alwaysnerdyretros Ok, Thanks very much bro😀👊💪

[@nahuelolmos2709]

Nerd Gamer whats a dlc?

[@darkcoco827]

How do you get Reed’s red and black alt costume?

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

I can’t remember exactly, but you get their alternate outfits by completing their gauntlets and some are in chests during the epilogue on superior difficulty

[@darkcoco827]

Always Nerdy yea I got all of their alt except Reeds in superior difficulty in show of doom story mode. I’ve looked everywhere and his was the only one I couldn’t find

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

I don’t remember where each was. I’m pretty sure he was in the negative zone though. His might be up on a cliff right after those first two insect nests you can destroy. Idk if you have discord but we could try to set up a time to burn through superior mode and get all the boxes

[@darkcoco827]

Always Nerdy yes I’m on discord. I’m under this server discord.gg/j8aSdx

[@markmagician2471]

Infinite Thanos is too OP

[@SpideyTalks23]

Hey man

[@gotaplanstan]

Is this ranking them in terms of popularity or how fun their gameplay is? Cuz if it's in terms of balance...man does this community not understand this game 😂 2 of the 5 best characters in the game are in the 20s and 30s 🙈

[@gotaplanstan]

Uhhh. Magneto is good, and has one of the best extremes, but he's not top 10. He's not even top 15.

[@camm8642]

canon wise phoenix would be stronger then anyone here anyway....I remember john bryne even drew a picture of dark phoenix standing over a defeated thanos holding his infinity gauntlet.

[@MoonZon]

Hello i am thinking of buying this game and i will like to know if the game is worth it and if i should buy it now because i dont want to buy this game if a new one is coming soon but i have seen alot of video about this game and i really like it but i still want to know if is worth it to buy it now

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

I personally love the game. There is a ton of content so you’ll definitely get your money’s worth, especially if you are a marvel fan. There’s no announcement for a 4th game yet, so we’re probably a couple years away from that too. I have a review video on the channel as well if that might help.

[@MoonZon]

@@alwaysnerdyretros Ok thank you so much for responding, then i will buy this game and i am going to have a look at the review video too :)

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Awesome!!! I’d recommend the discord too if you ever decide to play online with others. The only downside to the game is that it can be hard to find online lobbies. If you just want to play single player it’s not a big deal, but if you’re wanting to play online you’ll want to find people through reddit or discord

[@MoonZon]

@@alwaysnerdyretros i am already in your discord and theres alot of cool people there, Thanks

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Oh perfect! You’re already way ahead then! If you’d like other opinions on the game before you buy, that’s a great place to do it as well

[@SpideyTalks23]

Is there a way we can talk again I got logged out on dis

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Can you not sign back in or make a new account?

[@SpideyTalks23]

Always Nerdy I can I made a new account I can’t log back in

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

That’s weird? Are you blocked from discord?

[@andrewhedstrom4113]

I never use the Doombots! that's my mistake I guess haha

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Oh yeah those are the most important! They synergize with doom, giving him some awesome self-synergies

[@albertlouis756]

The only reason Phoenix is high on a lot of lists is because of her ep Regen cleansing flames ability. I don't think that makes her the best character, especially since cleansing flames is a support character aspect. She is a great hero, but she is not better than infinity Thanos....

[@carolwildman4514]

The thing 214 with others pt.1 scrivener paratice cancel Moon Knight orchard poll create typical on

[@xenalotadicks]

Wish they had swapped out a Thanos for Antman/Rogue/Mystique/Vision/Jubilee/Sabretooth/Toad/Havok

[@ItalianCaliBoi]

damn, my two favourite characters are at the bottom of the list.... :(

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Dr strange and scarlet witch?

[@Lwiis64]

You can still enjoy playing as them despite them being the worst. I use Strange regularly.

[@Furkward]

That doesn't mean their bad you can still use healers

[@xenalotadicks]

Starlord is WAAAAY to high on this list. I also would drop Ironman down a nice few spots.

[@coolkeeper0927]

Do you think every member of the black order will ever be playable?

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Probably not in this game unless we get another season pass :(

[@coolkeeper0927]

@@alwaysnerdyretros i hope there is another season pass. But at least the roster is still really amazing

[@johnsantos507]

@@coolkeeper0927 Nope. There isn't.

[@coolkeeper0927]

@@johnsantos507 Why?

[@coolkeeper0927]

@@johnsantos507 Do you have proof?

[@slashyslasher1248]

I need an invite to the ultimate alliance 3 discord

[@decayedparadigm]

The discord

[@loumdelrio1]

that one guy who dislikes the video

[@lamaraejones7623]

Thor?

[@HozzyBoySr]

Is Marvel Alliance coming to PlayStation or Xbox

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Sadly no 😢 Unless a 4th game gets made multiplatform, but the odds are probably low for that

[@GalazyProductions]

It's funded by Nintendo so no

[@andreahope7254]

I wish we could play as god emperor doom with unique moves

[@GalazyProductions]

Yeah I would have preferred that over infinity thanos

[@lexlovefistwwe9927]

as for me, I do hope we have villains mode , in some stages aside from just gauntlet such as... -)using boss thanos with choosing 2 or 3 his black order servants as allies , against 7-9 heroes at once and nova corpses or shield agent/robot npc -)using red skull/ or destroyer with hella assisting , casting curses on heroes -)using god emperror doom woth hos doombot against fantastic four , along with their "infected" /enchantment and also some heroes -)using the celestials in fps view mode to destroy the heroes and civilian, -) and how about maximus vs thane one on one , plus using his drones but on terrain disadvantage, still the rules occured for us, player don't have stagger bar could be knock back, and enemies have stagger like all bosses LOLS, maybe I'm expecting too much

[@zayneabdelmegid2740]

@@lexlovefistwwe9927 hey should totally do that!

[@lexlovefistwwe9927]

@@zayneabdelmegid2740 yes.. just my opinion.. so much for hoping now , because the content of dlc is already finish and end.. , these concept would fit for the new game maybe... imagine we wuld controling galactus, fight over earth or another planet and fight with heroes and another celestials..or multiverse concept

[@zayneabdelmegid2740]

@@lexlovefistwwe9927 how about Annihilus with his extreme being him summoning the Annihilation Wave to do massive AOE damage.

[@omarovo]

Spider-Man is too low he’s fun to play w whenever I use strategy over button mashing

[@SpideyTalks23]

Can you check out my new red hood fan made trailer if you can thanks bud

[@alwaysnerdyretros]

Will do!

[@sbcollegeguy]

Anyone still play this game online?

[@ss5william100]

I'll play with you

[@sbcollegeguy]

@@ss5william100 that’s awesome. I couldn’t find anyone online or room to play with!

[@sbcollegeguy]

@@ss5william100when do you usually play?

[@carolwildman4514]

Elektra friends foe let me gold rold date section corvus Glaive pound select download add

[@Irish1Eric]

20 bucks to add more charcters sucks

[@eibar1083]

Lol. I begun the game and level up to Scarlet witch and she is the worse

[@SpideyTalks23]

First