Best Ergonomic Mouse? Logitech MX ERGO Overview!

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Andy Slye

Andy Slye

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@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
Best price on Amazon: geni.us/MXErgo
@welcti
@welcti 7 жыл бұрын
You can also get it directly from Logitech, which is what I did. Logitech also has the plus model for the same price as the regular version. The plus model comes with an additional angled platform you place under the trackball to get the additional 10 degrees of tilt.
@BiscottiGelato
@BiscottiGelato 7 жыл бұрын
Just got this. I confirm that the ball is interchangable with the one on the M750
@darreleddings5901
@darreleddings5901 7 жыл бұрын
Tips: Remove metal plate, use the bottom of a Bic pen to remove the ball, HAND wash the ball with dish soap, towel dry. It will take the new ball grit and film off the ball. I do this about once a month to take the dirt off it. If you didn't knw, you can use the same method to clean the "nubs" the ball rides on, i uses the cap of said Bic pen to clean them. The ball is the same size as the Blue M570 and the Red Trackman balls, so if you want to swap it's totally doable. Regarding fit: I have a fairly big hand and this is more comfortable and I feel it fits my hand better, the weight is def a plus as it does not slide at all. There is just the one slab of rubber on the magnet and you will not have to worry about one of the rubber "feet" pods coming loose, same on the comfort wedge. If you run 2 pc's, you can pair one via unifying and one via blu-tooth and switch between at the touch of a button. Regarding battery life: While it is shorter than an alkaline, remember that you won't have to buy a battery for it, you will get the same performance just for a shorter time. That's always been the case with recharge able batteries. A user replaceable battery would have been nice but with the average number of recharges being 1000 per battery, that really isn't a factor. At a recharge every 7 days, you'd go 19 years at max performance before you'd run into an issue.
@JohnSAitken
@JohnSAitken 4 жыл бұрын
I got big hands and fingers and a Pinkie push in the small hole on the bottom will bush the ball out. Like your ears, "nothing to be inserted smaller than your elbow" Make an indentation on the ball and it will lodge into one of the three pivots that the ball slide over. So all-in-all, don't use a ballpoint pen to displace the ball, use something with a soft tip like a pencil with a rubber on the end.
@mohsinrparkar3407
@mohsinrparkar3407 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see the trackball again, been using the M570 for 5 years now.. Time for an upgrade..
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
Yep it was long overdue. This is a worthy successor.
@mrmikelb
@mrmikelb 5 жыл бұрын
This looks awesome! It has things I didn't even know I needed! I think the only thing left for them to integrate is infinite scrolling. Click a switch and let that mouse wheel just go. That's my one and only hangup, I think
@bigboyazi
@bigboyazi 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I've got two M570s one at home and one at work for slightly more than a year now. I am hooked on these kind and seriously dislike using the regular mice now.
@ustczzh
@ustczzh 7 жыл бұрын
Me too! Got 4 M570s.
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
Yes trackballs are a big relief compared to regular mice.
@sshamuel
@sshamuel 7 жыл бұрын
Me too. I leave one in my travel bag and one at home.
@KevinHigby
@KevinHigby 7 жыл бұрын
I was about to buy a second for fear they'd stop manufacturing them!
@juanchopancho8802
@juanchopancho8802 6 жыл бұрын
Hey andy, i hjave two M570 too, worth the change to this MX Ergo?
@annadavis9652
@annadavis9652 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. It helped me decide which one I'd get. I've got pretty bad tendonitis, and it's helpful to have it. :)
@fernandosibecas3492
@fernandosibecas3492 2 жыл бұрын
My M570 after many years of service is asking for a replacemen! I`m getting an MX Ergo, looks great!
@googull8963
@googull8963 3 жыл бұрын
Love the MX Ergo but battery eventually needs to be replaced with no apparent support from Logi. Awesome if you might post a video on changing this battery.
@Bonez091391
@Bonez091391 4 жыл бұрын
you said exactly what I was waiting for, its able to switch between 2 computers with the simple press of a button. SOLD!!!
@anthonychen3867
@anthonychen3867 7 жыл бұрын
Looking forward t the full review. Thanks Andy
@DezorianGuy
@DezorianGuy Жыл бұрын
Can the 1,2 button be configured for custom functions? I do not own 2 PCs, so this button just becomes useless?
@Remoking100
@Remoking100 5 жыл бұрын
The video was on point and informing!
@ginotarabotto
@ginotarabotto 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Thanks
@aslye
@aslye 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@kylerramgamer2206
@kylerramgamer2206 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the quick review.
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@kristfur
@kristfur 7 жыл бұрын
Love everything except the outrageous price. Should be $65 at MOST. But they basically fixed everything wrong about the M570 or brought it into the future. I wasn't expecting the tilt function, a very nice surprise. I wish Microsoft still made trackballs, they made a damn fine trackball mouse. If they did we'd have a trackball war, innovation would be constant, and these things would be updated more often.
@tompom3571
@tompom3571 7 жыл бұрын
chris dear, what were the "fixed" things from the m570. i use one now and might get new one but i want to hear the fixed issues you mention..
@SquaredCircle777
@SquaredCircle777 5 жыл бұрын
Logitech is killing the game with peripherals right now.
@SuburbaniteUrbanite
@SuburbaniteUrbanite 4 жыл бұрын
oh yeah, and lets ship it off to another country so people can get paid far under a livable wage in order to create this mouse. Yeah sure, think before you comment.
@FtonDavid
@FtonDavid 6 жыл бұрын
My M570 sometimes needs to have the ball taken out, gunk cleaned out and often an eraser on the little wheels to get the oil off so they'll be enough friction between them and the blue ball to make it work, I wonder if this mouse is easy, easier, just as easy to clean. My M570 is double clicking on occasion meaning I've had to get my mouse on it for gaming as opposed to the trackball (so am looking for a new trackball and this one might be the one).
@denesk2794
@denesk2794 5 жыл бұрын
How did I miss this product? I am a big fan of logi pointing devices and always wished there was a tilt on the wheel. I would prefer 2-3 more programmable buttons though. - one on the right for the pinkie - one plus where the new one is - one or two on the lower end of the ball.... Well, I work on 3 screens and have a load of apps open :) so moaaar buttons= better. Either way I am ordering this right now.
@heidimacdougall9805
@heidimacdougall9805 6 жыл бұрын
I have been using an M570 for eight years. My problem is with my right forefinger that has repetitive strain. It got so bad that I trained myself to use the mouse with my left hand, moving the ball with my small index finger. Took a while but it is great. Therefore, left handed people can certainly use this mouse or the new MX Ergo.
@D-Vices
@D-Vices 7 жыл бұрын
I've always used these, from the initial wired versions up until the current 570. Love 'em. I'm curious about the 'pro' distinction on the Logitech website; there's no price difference or feature set listed. But there is a different SKU!
@Johnnyrebox
@Johnnyrebox 7 жыл бұрын
I have the M570, very interested in this. I do have one question. The current problem with the current M570 is the trackball surface easily gets dust/dirt and it slows the trackball movement. Have you removed the trackball to see the surface and see if there's a difference between this and M570? Thanks.
@kristfur
@kristfur 7 жыл бұрын
I've had many trackballs over the last 15+ years. They will always have this issue because the main problem is the oils and dead skin cells from your fingers rub onto the ball. It's normal maintenance, every couple weeks pop out the ball and clean it. No biggie for me. One reviewer mentioned the hole to remove the ball is quite smaller than M570, you'll need a little stick handy. It does appear that the clearance between the ball and the shell is really tight, so outside dust & particles might have a harder time getting in. But as I stated before, that's not the real issue.
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
Correct, the hole to remove the ball is smaller than on the M570
@thomashamwey4390
@thomashamwey4390 7 жыл бұрын
In addition to that, it seems the actual socket for the ball (under the outside cover of the mouse) looks almost identical to the M570
@kristfur
@kristfur 7 жыл бұрын
Since this review I got an MX ERGO. It's similar to the M570, but definitely heavier, feels good in hand. Slightly better hand position than the M570. I use the ERGO at the office. The M570 is still my on-the-go trackball. The swivel base of the MX Ergo uses a heavy magnet, which makes me really nervous sitting next to my laptop's screen in my backpack. If you own a M570, wait for a price drop for the MX Ergo.
@Johnnyrebox
@Johnnyrebox 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update. Yeah, I'll wait for price drop as you recommended.
@xNaceryx
@xNaceryx 7 жыл бұрын
I've been years waiting for a succesor to the M570 but that rubberized finish is a deal breaker for me. I've always hated it as they tend to attract grime and dust pretty easily and with heavy use sweat tends to degrade the coating making it sticky.
@Etheoma
@Etheoma 7 жыл бұрын
wish there was a hybrid with a trackball and normal mouse in one with some retractable rubber feet which could be extended or retracted with a single button that is easy to press, so you can switch between the trackball and sensor easily.
@daltonwide
@daltonwide 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use the precision button as a "shift" button? For example, to control volume via the scroll wheel. I'm not talking about the "gesture" mode which seems to work only with the ball.
@chrishoffman8600
@chrishoffman8600 7 жыл бұрын
This may be a dumb question. Sorry if so. I have never used a trackball mouse. Can you actually still move the mouse physically to change cursor position in addition to using the trackball?
@chrishoffman8600
@chrishoffman8600 7 жыл бұрын
My guess is that it would only be possible if you don't put the plate in, but just wanted to check if even then.
@welcti
@welcti 7 жыл бұрын
No, moving the trackball itself doesn't do anything. The sensor is inside the ball compartment, and it just tracks movements of the ball.
@gordon-1
@gordon-1 7 жыл бұрын
Look at this device as a "mouse on it's back."
@warmonked
@warmonked 7 жыл бұрын
Scroll wheel smooth or notched?
@zeevwiess8006
@zeevwiess8006 6 жыл бұрын
i personally dont like trackballs , however i did tried it on a shop display and i really liked the design. the way your whole palm rests on the mouse and even your pinky has a ridge for it to rest in.if anyone can recommend a normal optical mouse but with similar design ill be grateful because i cant seem to find one.
@BinVeto
@BinVeto 7 жыл бұрын
Andy Slye Does it work for android box like the nvidia shield ?
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
On the product page it just lists Windows 8 or later, and macOSX 10.12 or later
@BinVeto
@BinVeto 7 жыл бұрын
Andy Slye do you know the best new ones for android tx boxes ? I'm try to like for one but i don't want to get and old one or a crabby one
@mikeybrougeson4363
@mikeybrougeson4363 6 жыл бұрын
It will work fine but you will have limited functionality as the app is not installed
@craigscycles
@craigscycles 7 жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm using the 570 still. I'll be purchasing one
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
enjoy!
@justincooper1884
@justincooper1884 7 жыл бұрын
How many of the buttons can be programmed for gaming. I do a lot of mmo play and need to be able to reprogram as many buttons as possible. Thanks
@Thewandmirror
@Thewandmirror 7 жыл бұрын
But you can't losen up the scrollwheel like with the other MX mouse?
@WillJukedTheBox
@WillJukedTheBox 7 жыл бұрын
what is the advantage of using the trackball on the side with your thumb over regular trackballs?
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
Read this article www.techforanyone.com/use-trackball-instead-mouse-trackpad/
@mocaxu
@mocaxu 7 жыл бұрын
hmm, not a fan of rubberized surfaces. it's going to melt and turn gooey after a few months in the tropics.
@SuburbaniteUrbanite
@SuburbaniteUrbanite 4 жыл бұрын
would you rather it slide around the desk?
@wouterdesmedt1736
@wouterdesmedt1736 7 жыл бұрын
How does the size compare to the M570? That's what I would love to know. I've been using Logitech trackballs since 1994, and still use my original Trackman on my pc. I have a friend who bought the M570 a few years ago and I'm always annoyed when using his computer at how small that thing is. The buttons are too narrow and too closely spaced, and the entire device feels like a toy in my hand. I really hope the new MX feels more substantial.
@welcti
@welcti 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't see your question before I asked mine. I have the same issue with the M570 - it's too small for my hands, and causes my fingers to cramp up a bit in extended continuous use. The MS trackball was about the perfect size, but the resolution was a bit low, and the ball didn't roll as freely. If this is an upgrade over the M570, even if it were $200, I'd probably end up buying it. Like my ergonomic mechanical keyboard, I'm using my trackball all day most days of the week, so it's worth it to get the best possible quality out of my input devices.
@politenessman3901
@politenessman3901 7 жыл бұрын
I've used the M570 for years (and the wired version for years before that) - the Ergo (first impressions) is slightly larger, feels nicer, but the supporting software is hopeless - you can change the speed of the cursor, but not the acceleration - which is vital when trying to cover serious amounts of screen real estate. It also doesn't seem to retain cursor speed settings using their "options" software (as of 20 Nov 17). I'd pass on it until they sort this out.
@politenessman3901
@politenessman3901 7 жыл бұрын
disregard my last - Windows 10 -->Mouse settings --> Additional mouse options --> Pointer Options --> Check the "Enhance Pointer Precision" checkbox. This is the mouse acceleration
@terrygorby1585
@terrygorby1585 7 жыл бұрын
The MX Ergo is the same device in a darker colored body. Not worth it.
@KristieGhioni
@KristieGhioni 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, was looking for how to change the battery, lol didn't remember it was rechargeable. So you do get a long time on just the one charge. Long enough for me to forget anyway. I do really like the trackball mouse and buy up when I see them. they don't last forever though which is a shame.
@haojuho7778
@haojuho7778 5 жыл бұрын
m570 was very comfortable but the build quality sucks. I had 5 and their left button dies after two years of regular use. Does this one have that problem?
@garywutube
@garywutube 3 жыл бұрын
My m570 serve me decade, replace the crappy switch is very easy, but MX Ergo not, which is very difficult to replace those switch
@deaconpladek
@deaconpladek 5 жыл бұрын
HI Andy, love your overview. General question. I have a M570 at the moment, and I notice that when scrolling an Adobe PDF, it seems to jump rather than smooth flow the text on the page. So, question, have you seen this MS ergo mouse smooth scroll or does it also jump? thanks bob
@aslye
@aslye 5 жыл бұрын
No I haven’t experienced that issue
@lastaalaster4165
@lastaalaster4165 6 жыл бұрын
Hey nice video man keep it up! +sub
@luisdeleon6624
@luisdeleon6624 3 жыл бұрын
You want to know if if the max Logitech bull Max or Max ball can you does it come in all the colors like white or another color I only comes great or black doesn't come it does not come in white
@dylkow
@dylkow 7 жыл бұрын
When the heck are these suppose to be in stores? I know best buy is offering a special edition + model, and I want NOW.
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
www.logitech.com/en-us/product/mx-ergo-wireless-trackball-mouse#section-product-hero
@RichBordoni
@RichBordoni 7 жыл бұрын
dylkow I saw Logitech say in a comment reply to someone Best Buy will have them October 1st. I just ordered the special edition off the Logitech website last night though. Hasn't shipped yet.
@dylkow
@dylkow 7 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the website say 5-7 days shipping? So they must be shipping them pre-retail release, yeah?
@RichBordoni
@RichBordoni 7 жыл бұрын
Well, it doesn't say anything about shipping or stock on the actual product page. When I went to buy it though I had the option of choosing free standard shipping or express shipping. I just chose the free standard shipping, but like I said I haven't gotten an email with a tracking # or anything yet and as of right now I made the order about 24 hours ago. I wonder if whatever warehouse it's shipping from runs on weekends or I'll have to wait until Monday...
@dylkow
@dylkow 7 жыл бұрын
Well keep us up to date! I'm very interested. Also, did you get the standard or "Plus" model?
@sshamuel
@sshamuel 7 жыл бұрын
I am so glad we FINALLY have a bluetooth trackball...
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
It's great to finally see it come to fruition.
@jlwsimko
@jlwsimko 4 жыл бұрын
Where do you keep the fob when you're on the go?
@alexanderhaven3289
@alexanderhaven3289 3 жыл бұрын
The plate on the bottom is magnetic. I just tilt it and drop the usb fob in the space, it is not ideal but works well enough.
@jkpinpdx
@jkpinpdx 7 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between this version and the PLUS version of the MX ergo?
@gordon-1
@gordon-1 7 жыл бұрын
10° more tilt with the plus.
@mrcgeraldes
@mrcgeraldes 4 жыл бұрын
Is this only a trackball or also works as traditional mouse?
@garywutube
@garywutube 3 жыл бұрын
trackball
@TheStevenWhiting
@TheStevenWhiting 6 жыл бұрын
Having used it for a week it's not that great. Tilted it isn't that comfortable after a while. Why have they not created a compartment for the receiver? Why is it a lot heavier than the older model? Why are people saying the ball is more accurate than the older model, it is neither more or less accurate than the older model, they are the same. It might just be how I sit but the tilt is OK for a bit, then also becomes slightly uncomfortable.
@Misterlegoboy
@Misterlegoboy 5 жыл бұрын
it's absolutely huge! how can i possibly use something so astronomical?
@SuburbaniteUrbanite
@SuburbaniteUrbanite 4 жыл бұрын
you obviously never used a trackball before.
@xzop2688
@xzop2688 5 жыл бұрын
you said computer to computer but can it go to a tv with bt?
@Poetry4Peace
@Poetry4Peace Жыл бұрын
Soo can u customize the left n right horizontal scroll on g604 i utilse thattt so much enter and left is Windows at home page l paste and enter at work
@funkybuddha5604
@funkybuddha5604 5 жыл бұрын
Does this use the same shitty switches that were used in the M570 or does it actually have decent switches? My M570 is basically broken due to this.
@Bad888Max
@Bad888Max 7 жыл бұрын
thx for the video. i am interested in this. i currently have g502 mx master and g100 and looking to buy g900 and this tr4ackball mx ergo would be amazing to carry for work
@Temporalplace
@Temporalplace 7 жыл бұрын
How can you switch between computers if your receiver is only in one computer ?
@olefster
@olefster 7 жыл бұрын
use additional one. or bluetooth connection
@ruffrider6653
@ruffrider6653 6 жыл бұрын
Yuo can unify it to two receivers...
@steveburton2410
@steveburton2410 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have a clue about the difference between the 'regular' and 'plus' models?
@RichBordoni
@RichBordoni 7 жыл бұрын
Someone in another comment said the Plus version has an extra 30° angle tilt base.
@olefster
@olefster 7 жыл бұрын
"Plus" model includes an extra stand in its kit
@stanleythegamer8338
@stanleythegamer8338 7 жыл бұрын
What does the trackball do? Lol I have no idea
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
Instead of moving the mouse around on your desk to maneuver the pointer, with this you just move the trackball with your thumb to maneuver the pointer.
@stanleythegamer8338
@stanleythegamer8338 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling me! Btw nice vid
@carlos.antunes
@carlos.antunes 7 жыл бұрын
99$ is way overpriced. Currently it's a gamble to buy trackball's from logitech, I bet that this model is still plagued with the 'left click problem' that affected the Logitech M570 - I had to solder new micro switches on two M570' only to not trow them in the garbage.
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
Only time will tell, but the specs claim the button durability for left/right buttons are at 10 million clicks.
@carlos.antunes
@carlos.antunes 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. I wish I had the specs for the M570 before buying 2 trackball's - I surelly could have spent my money on something better and longlasting.
@jamescarter8311
@jamescarter8311 7 жыл бұрын
LMAO people are so cheap.
@mikeybrougeson4363
@mikeybrougeson4363 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah my micro switch has just gone on the left click so i have ordered one of these (may still fix the microswitch and keep as a spare) I NEVER KNEW THE SCROLL WHEEL CLICKED FORM SIDE TO SIDE, ive had this mouse like 4 years... mad
@lcwpg
@lcwpg 7 жыл бұрын
i want a trackman marble successor with scroll wheel
@evilcab
@evilcab 7 жыл бұрын
do you know the difference betreen the ergo, ergo lift, and ergo plus?
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not exactly sure what the difference is. The model shown in the video is the normal MX Ergo.
@RichBordoni
@RichBordoni 7 жыл бұрын
zeta555 I just tried to ask that question on Logitech live chat but I got cut off before I could connect to a representative.
@kristfur
@kristfur 7 жыл бұрын
One article I read said Ergo Plus will be sold at Best Buy, and it's a "limited-edition version that includes an extra 30-degree wedge for even creakier wrists". The logitech website is selling both the regular Ergo and Plus for the same price. Haven't seen anyone else mention the Lift version, nor is it on the Logitech website.
@evilcab
@evilcab 7 жыл бұрын
Christopher Alden you can order the lift in the Logitech website, the product number is 910-005178
@kristfur
@kristfur 7 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... That's the same PN as the MX Ergo Plus
@mistertortorello
@mistertortorello 6 жыл бұрын
Hi guys. Do you know if this mouse allows fast scrolling, like the performance MX? Thanks!
@CaioCRCosta
@CaioCRCosta 6 жыл бұрын
Nope, it does not.
@aarongerow1606
@aarongerow1606 7 жыл бұрын
Are the switches better than the M570?
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
The buttons? I think the overall design and build quality are much better than the M570 for sure.
@aarongerow1606
@aarongerow1606 7 жыл бұрын
Well, the microswitches actually -- the little electronic gizmos registering clicks. On the M570, they'd fuzz out after about a year, producing ghost double-clicks and randomly releasing when the button was held. Hoping this model has better switches, like older Logitech models.
@aarongerow1606
@aarongerow1606 7 жыл бұрын
So the logitech folks, on their demo video, said the M570 switches were rated at 3M clicks, whereas the new ones in the MX ERGO are at 10M. So that sounds like an upgrade!
@olefster
@olefster 7 жыл бұрын
This model uses japanese microswitches by Omron
@MoralRichMedia
@MoralRichMedia 7 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! My prayer has been answered :) lol
@Wayneable
@Wayneable 7 жыл бұрын
For me the biggest problem with the M570 was the cheap switches logidtech used for the mouse buttons, have gone through 3 of them in the past 6 years. Have they made the same mistake with this one? At that price they better not have!
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
Only time will tell. Right now, to me, they feel good. But I never had issues with my M570 buttons.
@welcti
@welcti 7 жыл бұрын
How does the size of the MX Ergo compare to the M570? I generally like the M570 - it's the best thumb trackball that has been made, at least up to this point - but have found it's a bit on the small side for my hands, and can cause my fingers to cramp up a bit after extended use.
@welcti
@welcti 7 жыл бұрын
To answer my own question now that I have one in hand (yes, pun intended), it does feel bigger, but it's because the curve of the top of the trackball is more pronounced. In terms of actual length, the MX Ergo and the m570 are almost identical. So your hand will be in more of a cupped position when using the MX Ergo. The front of the trackball is also raised up higher than the m570, and when in the flat position, the right side of the trackball is as well. I think this is mostly attributable to the clearance needed for the tilting mechanism.
@uranium5694
@uranium5694 7 жыл бұрын
What's the price of this?
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
$99.99 USD
@uranium5694
@uranium5694 7 жыл бұрын
Andy Slye thanks for replying but OMG this is expensive.
@dziedzic8565
@dziedzic8565 7 жыл бұрын
How about a wired gaming version.
@synxed6042
@synxed6042 7 жыл бұрын
Connect it via the usb to micro usb cable.
@RichBordoni
@RichBordoni 7 жыл бұрын
Alex C I think I remember seeing in another comment that the cable is just used for charging... No data.
@synxed6042
@synxed6042 7 жыл бұрын
Well, either way you're not going to be doing serious gaming on a trackball anyway. Right?
@dziedzic8565
@dziedzic8565 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I game on a t-bb18 ... It needs some evolution. Show trackball gamers some love logitech. You guys keep making wireless Trackballs. Give the t-bb18 a gaming revision. Has to be wired though.
@weak1ings
@weak1ings 7 жыл бұрын
I game on my M570, it does great at what I play. That said, I don't spend my time playing CS:GO and prefer strategy games and World of Tanks, which generally require accurate clicking and not spinning your character around instantly. The M570's input lag is unnoticeable to me (same as the even older Trackman wheel!) and by bringing the MX Ergo out, I feel like it should perform at least as well as the MX master.
@joelongjr.5114
@joelongjr.5114 7 жыл бұрын
Bottom line: MX Ergo - I do not recommend purchase of this trackball at this time. Comfort wise, it is a hit. The price is not as good as it could be in comparison with the M570. The problem is in Logitech's software. I have used a M570 for more years than I care to say, and the vital feature that were not ported from Setpoint is Pointer Acceleration. With this missing, it makes your job much harder to move across multiple screens. The MX Ergo software requires scrolling the ball endlessly to get across the screen. With acceleration, a quick sharp motion will allow the pointer to move from one side of one monitor all the way to the other side of the second monitor. I don't have the time or patience to deal with the MX Ergo with this feature missing. Another thing about pointer acceleration missing is that it requires excessive repetition of thumb motions to move the pointer across the screen. Using this trackball and associated software will set me up for repetitive motion injuries. For the time being, the MX Ergo will sit gathering dust until the software feature is added. I'll have to plug along with my old M570, and I probably should get a few to in case Logitech quits making them.
@politenessman3901
@politenessman3901 7 жыл бұрын
Windows 10 -->Mouse settings --> Additional mouse options --> Pointer Options --> Check the "Enhance Pointer Precision" checkbox. This is the mouse acceleration
@joelongjr.5114
@joelongjr.5114 7 жыл бұрын
Enhance Pointer Precision is NOT mouse acceleration. Try it on a dual monitor setup. Your thumb will remind you when it gets sore.
@politenessman3901
@politenessman3901 7 жыл бұрын
I am using it on a dual monitor set up.
@terrygorby1585
@terrygorby1585 7 жыл бұрын
Save your money. If you have the M570 - keep it - if it is failing, buy a new one and a backup. The MX ergo is OK, but not worth the price and no better than the M570. The M570 may have a cheaper plastic feel, but there is no working advantage to the MX ergo. The last good trackball from this company was the Cordless TrackMan Optical.
@Danielo515
@Danielo515 6 жыл бұрын
Please review Elecom DEFT Pro
@adranja
@adranja 6 жыл бұрын
Simply applying the weight of your hand did you find that the mouse would tilt without wanting it to? Or after tilting it did you find it try to sit flat without wanting it to?
@aslye
@aslye 6 жыл бұрын
Haven't noticed that problem with my hand
@myo3939
@myo3939 6 жыл бұрын
I've been a trackball user for 3 years. It has caused pain in my thumb now. Definitely not recommended to buy. I'm switching to vertical mouse.
@MauFerrusca
@MauFerrusca 5 жыл бұрын
You're using it wrong then. Your settings must be super low regarding page scroll or you are not letting the ball run freely. You can also "throw" the ball and then stop it, instead of moving it every millimiter till it reaches the spot.
@Justtwodangmany
@Justtwodangmany 5 жыл бұрын
I hope theres a wired version. Because there isnt a wireless mouse out there that works like a good ole wired in, non-laggy, battery saving, happy stable and solid performing get it done w/o forgetting to turn it off dependable mouse. If you agree with me, leave my comment a thumbs up and Ill be sure to leave more comments about other items too that you may agree with! *points to the thumbs up button while smiling* (youtubers)
@danekjovax
@danekjovax 5 жыл бұрын
It comes with a USB cable that, when connected, will have the trackball behave like it is a wired device.
@ImProvementSC2
@ImProvementSC2 7 жыл бұрын
Still don't know what you would use it for thought...
@D-Vices
@D-Vices 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could use it to browse a dictionary? (though)
@amirprog
@amirprog 7 жыл бұрын
The concept of the thumb doing the mouse moving ironically is not ergonomic. The handshoe mouse is the closest to what can be called ergonomic mouse. I checked dozens of ergonomic mouses...
@SethiestSeth
@SethiestSeth 7 жыл бұрын
Micro-usb... Still?
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
No USB-C yet
@weak1ings
@weak1ings 7 жыл бұрын
Thinking about it, Even if Micro-usb lasted only 200 plug-ins, say you had to charge your Mouse once every two months and never plugged it in otherwise, that Micro-usb would last 33.33 years. Assuming a user isn't an utter idiot and kills micro-usbs like the plague, I think it should be fine.
@takahiroyoshiyuki
@takahiroyoshiyuki 7 жыл бұрын
Andy Slye no multi window button? Like the MX master?
@NonsensicalSpudz
@NonsensicalSpudz 7 жыл бұрын
Jeff, thats not a default option thats in the logitech options app, in other words any of their mice with programmable buttons can do a multi window button
@adampetrovic4769
@adampetrovic4769 7 жыл бұрын
Why does it matter? You charge it every blue moon
@HULK-HOGAN1
@HULK-HOGAN1 7 жыл бұрын
The angle is still too flat. I sold my $150 Logitech MX Master for the same reason and instead bought a $15 ANKER ergonomic mouse and haven't looked back since.
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
This one? geni.us/UHbN
@HULK-HOGAN1
@HULK-HOGAN1 7 жыл бұрын
That's the wireless version yep. Do you have experience with it Andy?
@valent666
@valent666 7 жыл бұрын
NO RGB?
@galacticboost3156
@galacticboost3156 7 жыл бұрын
i think you had a ventilator on during filming ^^
@67Zaphod
@67Zaphod 7 жыл бұрын
The real question is, are they still using the poorly designed micro switches for the left/right buttons? I can't justify purchasing another Logitech mouse unless they have improved upon the flimsy spring-based micro switches.
@TheStevenWhiting
@TheStevenWhiting 7 жыл бұрын
Is the ball removable? If so I'm curious to know if they've replaced the little balls it used to roll on with laser instead? So reading comments the ball is removable yet you never bothered to show us removing the ball?
@olefster
@olefster 7 жыл бұрын
it uses antigravitation to keep ball in
@IslamicSocietyofTampaBayArea
@IslamicSocietyofTampaBayArea 6 жыл бұрын
My Logitech M570 Wireless Trackball Computer Mouse I have to get a new one every 6 months due to DOUBLE CLICK on the left click button. IS A HATEFUL SITUATION home this mouse does not do this to me ALSO!
@nKrkan
@nKrkan 4 жыл бұрын
this is the best mouse I ever had and I didn't even bought him jet!
@garywutube
@garywutube 3 жыл бұрын
trackball is not mouse
@nKrkan
@nKrkan 3 жыл бұрын
@@garywutube well, what is it than? enlight me pls
@garywutube
@garywutube 3 жыл бұрын
@@nKrkan A trackball is a pointing device consisting of a ball held by a socket containing sensors to detect a rotation of the ball about two axes
@nKrkan
@nKrkan 3 жыл бұрын
@@garywutube understandable, have a nice day
@roccociccone597
@roccociccone597 7 жыл бұрын
I cannot use a trackball mouse. It is so wierd for me...
@chazdesimone7306
@chazdesimone7306 7 жыл бұрын
Earbuds just won't stay in my ear. We must be unique, exceptional human beings.
@rodovre
@rodovre 7 жыл бұрын
In Europe he price is 109 Euro which is a whopping 130 US$!!
@Raul28153
@Raul28153 4 жыл бұрын
you forgot the most important. It is made to work with Linux and any one not using linux has rocks in their head.
@McRyach
@McRyach 7 жыл бұрын
I had Logitech M570 for the last seven years, and this is for sure my next one. I guess when my current mouse down clicker will break. I assume in 4 years. So I have to wait :( But great job Logitech!
@brillopad1392
@brillopad1392 7 жыл бұрын
ANYONE CONSIDERING BUYING A LOGITECH TRACKBALL, READ THIS FIRST: Ever since Logitech released their first wireless trackball, EVERY MODEL has suffered from the same problem: FAILURE OF THE LEFT-BUTTON MICRO SWITCH - usually just after the warranty expires. Logitech has been aware of this problem for years, but refuses to let go of their planned obsolescence in order to keep you buying their junk, which engineered to fail. AVOID THIS NEW MODEL AT ALL COST, unless you just like throwing money at Logitech.
@tompom3571
@tompom3571 7 жыл бұрын
hello brother. you are absolutely right and found a supporter in me. i use the m570 for around 8hours per day to game and often 10-14hours. (yes, yes, i'm pathetic) the internal clickers for the buttons are crap quality. even the scrollwheel which is another button, sometimes craps out. i hate logitech for their cheap trackballs since the trackman wheel. it was after that with the intro of the m570 that the quality dropped. even just holding looking the two, one can tell how huge the craftmanship quality is between them. logitech the scammers owe me around $700 compensation. i am on my 6th m570 in as many years - that's ironically, one per year. filthy swines. one thing that will upset you though, but i must, i will get the ergo. i despise logitech for the quality of the m570, but if you are an exclusive pc gamer who games many hours per day and only use trackballs, what other reasonable choice have you got?
@chazdesimone7306
@chazdesimone7306 7 жыл бұрын
Every K350 keyboard I've had eventually has blank keys after just a year. The simple printed numbers just wear off. I really like Logitech's styling. I wish their products lasted longer.
@rottingzuke5454
@rottingzuke5454 7 жыл бұрын
I get it that you're annoyed by the issues you've had - but where do you come up with "logitech the scammers owe me around $700 compensation"? They aren't that expensive.
@tompom3571
@tompom3571 7 жыл бұрын
@zuke. it's technically for all the ones that broke simply due to low quality and not prolonged wear and tear or abuse. that's around 5 m570's at $50/each a k800 keyboard ($90) because the spacebar plastic cracked and broke due to jumping in fps games. so i have a k800 that has to be thrown because the spacebar plastic (not keys) are useless. poor and no doubt deliberate workmanship. some manufacturing companies had internal documents leaked or revealed by courts that show a deliberate policy to make things a lot worse than they are capable of just so they fail quicker and people have to rebuy. you know this. even visually (plastic type/quality even smell) their last decade products look flimsy and cheap when compared to their 90s/00's ones. those older one just feel so much stronger/better - and they are!! like i said, the ergo seems to be, again, of good solid (look/feel) quality. to me, having one, straight away i noticed it. now time will have to tell if the visual matches the internal. for me, i will have to pass judgment after at least 12 months or longer. unless my life changes drastically (hope not unless for the better) i will be "raping" the ergo. by rape i simply mean 8+ hours per day use, often 10/12 even 16 hour marathons during which time, primarily, the right button and the scroll-as-button- and left button will be used. bold comment sure, but i believe i am (will be) the most active ergo user in the world - apart from maybe logitech's internal test machines. in fact that's what i can be considered; a human ergo testing machine.
@gregzeng
@gregzeng 7 жыл бұрын
Clear nail polished.
@brillopad1392
@brillopad1392 7 жыл бұрын
You must work for Logitech, otherwise you could never say what you do about this product, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO FAIL!!! Check out the number of instances about the failure of the button microswitches. They go on and on and on. IN SHORT, LOGITECH TRACKBALLS, WHICH USED TO BE GOOD - MANY, MANY YEARS AGO - ARE ESSENTIALLY TRASH AFTER A SHORT TIME.
@tompom3571
@tompom3571 7 жыл бұрын
not, work, he's a shill. a promoter who sells out for a mouse. and your comment is spot on.
@politenessman3901
@politenessman3901 7 жыл бұрын
I've been using them since the various wired ones, worn a number out over the years and I've never had the switches break. Loved the 570, upgraded to the MX Ergo (you have to do pointer accel in Win 10 rather than the options software, annoying) - but do recommend it.
@restushlogic5794
@restushlogic5794 7 жыл бұрын
gaming?
@Thedarkfade
@Thedarkfade 6 жыл бұрын
great overview, would be much better if you could speak slower, that would be easier to be understood by non-native english speaking viewers, sounds like you are on 1.25 to me lol
@PsychotropicDog
@PsychotropicDog 5 жыл бұрын
as far as trackballs go it's mostly a step backwards from the m570, with it's shittier DPI , the stupid angle thing that WILL collapse while you are using it, and the pointless 'low dpi' button which takes it from it's massive 400 DPI and drops it to 200 - oh and the bottom rubber will peel off, it comes with a shitty scroll wheel and it costs 3 times what an M570 does. Because logitech hates you.
@PsychotropicDog
@PsychotropicDog 5 жыл бұрын
I stand corrected, the mouse speed can be increased with 'Logitech Options' software, which will also allow reprogramming the DPI switch button. Oh and the back and forward buttons are way better than the M570.
@HallsteinI
@HallsteinI 6 жыл бұрын
Tilting mouse wheel? OH GOD WHY :disgust:
@otterformosa2968
@otterformosa2968 3 жыл бұрын
roller speed....not easy to control.
@atesonural9557
@atesonural9557 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody mention that this is not a mouse!!! just a trackpad
@garywutube
@garywutube 3 жыл бұрын
Trackball
@lukasaranda2494
@lukasaranda2494 5 жыл бұрын
This moise is SOOOOOOOOO BAD. Dont buy it. The mouse has such a bad connection plus the ball wont let you move around the screen without having to constantly adjust the sensativity.
@davidlucas8312
@davidlucas8312 6 жыл бұрын
do you no know the way
@wordsshackles441
@wordsshackles441 6 ай бұрын
Logitech MX ergo is garbage. Bought 2 years ago. Took good care of it. It has great ergonomics, and it's really comfortable, BUT the built quality is horrendous. After only 2 years of moderate use, the left mouse button and middle mouse button misfire all the time. Tried cleaning it, it keeps skipping clicks. It's awful. Can't even drag a window without trying multiple times. Similar problems with Logitech keyboards. I strongly recommend you stay away from Logitech products as a rule of thumb.
@Anita95_original
@Anita95_original 7 жыл бұрын
Okey, nice music, BUT it is nonetheless distracting. Even at low volume it is masking what you say, especially as you speak as fast as you can. Remember that many of youtube viewers, such as myself, has english as a second language. Music just makes your message harder to follow or understand and it really doesn’t add anything. I want to listen to music OR talk, never both simultaneously. I am a trackball user since 20 years... Why? Simple, my right hand started to hurt really bad using ordinary mices (after 10 years of use 1985-1995). With trackball (large ball on top type) I have never had any pain and still at the computer 10+ hours a day... I will try this new trackball out, but no thumb trackball has been as good as a large ball on top - yet.
@garywutube
@garywutube 3 жыл бұрын
great trackball with crappy switch
@NetvoTV
@NetvoTV 7 жыл бұрын
Third comment, now send me one!
@brandonbhagat3435
@brandonbhagat3435 4 жыл бұрын
mouses not mice
@FlaminRing
@FlaminRing 7 жыл бұрын
"When I'm not using my apple trackpad" 😂😂😂 you just lost all your credibility when you said that. Why not use a regular MX Master mouse instead? Also it seems like your script was given to you by logitech.
@aslye
@aslye 7 жыл бұрын
You must not edit videos for a living. If you did then you'd know that switching between mice, trackballs, and trackpads is the absolute best thing in terms of longevity and avoiding cramps and pains.
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