Best Guitar Cabs For the Money? | NEW Harley Benton Celestion Cabs | Thomann

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Clean 3:23 V30 Clean Neck 3:32 V30 Clean Bridge 3:41 Greenback Clean Neck 3:49 Greenback Clean Bridge 3:58 Creamback Clean Neck 4:06 Creamback Clean Bridge 4:15 V30/Creamback Clean Neck 4:24 V30/Creamback Clean Bridge

[@esenbi]

The combo is actually genius. Two different speakers in one cabinet creates such a versatile and full sound.. I love it.

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

Thanks man! Yeah, it's one of those "more than just the sum of its parts" kind of situation, isn't it? We love it! Cheers //Kris

[@IAmWatcher]

@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Hello, I have the HB 2x12 Vintage 30 vertical cab. I hooked it up to a HB Tube15, it sounds absolutely amazing! I also plan to order the HB 2x12 vertical Creamback with a Marshall DSL20 head next week. Can I connect one cab at 8 Ohm to the second at 8 Ohm, using a speakercable from the 'through' output from one cab straight into the input of the other cab? That way I can use both cabs at the same time. Is that possible or does the 2nd cab have to be at a different impedance? I really hope you can answer this, I have searched the entire internet and beyond, but haven't found any useful information on this at all... Thanks in advance!

[@JoeBaermann]

@@IAmWatcher 2x8 ohm cabs connected thay way will get down to 4 ohm, through is usually parallel. Question is, can the amp handle 4ohm as the minimum load? DSL seems to be made for 8-16 ohm, so use 1x8, 1x16 and 2x16, 2x8 will fry it. You could mod the through to serial, but the total of 16ohm will give you less volume. Don’t mix cab loads, especially if you can’t apply ohms law to calculate the total resistance, and even then there will be a volume difference between them. And always meassure the total resistance when linking cabs before connecting them to the amp. Take note that the new Plus series cabs are stereo and not through, but that can be changed with ease too.

[@darwinsaye]

“but for you, as a player you will never sit 10cm in front of your cab” -Omg I am yelling this in my head every time I watch demos of speaker cabinets that don’t do any room mic demonstrations. Thank you for acknowledging that we need to hear an idea of how a speaker cab sounds *in the room*.

[@szymonszymanski3]

Thank you so much for using Room mic 👊🏻 I love greenbacks - so much midrange and clarity. Great comparison guys as usual. Thank you 😊

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

Thanks Szymon! We will definitely use Francis more in the future. It's a much more realistic way of showing what's going on in the room, then a close-mic in front of the cab. Cheers //kris

[@JoeBaermann]

Best thing is that the Plus series cabs are available unloaded too. That way the option to use ones favorite speakers in them is there without the need to sell what a loaded cab comes with.

[@darwinsaye]

That’s good to know. I get that HB has some kind of deal going on with Celestion to be able to offer cabs at these prices, but not all of us dig the Celestion mid-focused sound.

[@JoeBaermann]

@@darwinsaye Yeah, plus some of us want lighter speakers in them cabs. Especially when rehearsal is at second floor and the stairs down are a pain when carrying stuff.

[@SomeKindOfMadman]

I agree with you both, on how’ve you’ve been doing it, sound-wise; has worked and will continue too. Thanks guys for the awesome content.

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

Thanks buddy, we both love the Creambacks so we tested the mix with the V30 and it worked like a dream. Glad to see that it is available now for everyone if interested. Cheers //Kris

[@bluedawn2669]

Wow on guillaume‘s pedalboard it really says “Guillaume’s talent enhancer”. I love it! ❤

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

That's absolutely true. And also my board says "Kris' cable salad v7.5" 🤣 Which is absolutely correct. It's a bit of a mess but it sounds and works epic! Cheers //Kris

[@eoinjennings519]

I have the V30 cab and it works great and such great value ! Great to see the new options - very tempting

[@francescocagnacci]

i would love to see a 1x12 comparison too. curios about the thiele stuff you guys just put out. these sound killer. i'm considering these

[@MrTimesetter]

Love the v30/Creamback combo.

[@bluzmansix]

All gorgeous. For my ears best overall V30. Best clean V30. Best crunch V30/CB. Another REALLY interesting comparison is speakers wired in series or parallel. I am currently running an open back cab with a Celestion 12" G12L35 and 10" Jensen Alnico5 in series (4W amp) and it is killer! Sometimes you need to experiment.

[@pads-zr9ln]

I was surprised how good the v30 sounded clean

[@DavideGranato]

I always used mix V30 - Creamback ( 75 )And still in love with it!

[@ibalrog]

It's hard to make much of the clean comparison, alternating across pickups and then across speakers. Neck/neck/neck then bridge/bridge/bridge would make things easier.

[@josearjona3728]

Please, make a "light-weight" version with two Neo-Creambacks!! ❤❤❤

[@rendyandrian7149]

I caught on Creamback 75 bug a few years ago. It was when no influencer mentioned this speaker. I scoured youtube for every demo of it. In the end, I bought Creamback 75 and paired with V30 to be used on Blackstar amp. The result was underwhelming. I wasn't happy with the tone. But I wasn't give up. Long story short, I currently play with amp sim all the time and the IR that I use are Creamback 75 + DV77 and Creamback 65 + Mesa V30. I can't get enough of Creamback haha.

[@ArvidNielsen]

Watching again…you really did a good job with this video. Thank you!

[@DavidGodfren]

I agree with what G said bout the Cabs. V30+Creamback is a good choice, followed by Creambacks, with greenback being too muffled for Heavy Gain stuff.

[@discoministerify]

I'm suprised how much I liked the good ol' V30s. Greenback I didn't like, way too scooped. V30+Creamback was very nice too.

[@KaddysJamKave]

Greenbacks aren't scooped in real life man, they are even more mid rangey than v30s but without the high end sizzle.

[@typedeaf]

What an incredibly hard choice. I love metal, and I also love super clean Dumble/Klon sound. Maybe the mix is the best solution? V30 is a no brainer for high gain only; great breakup.

[@julianmetcalfe1070]

WOW GUYS great JOB , would love to hear an VOX AC15 going through 2 ALNICO BLUE BACKS,having got green backs ,They all sound so good ,thanks keep up the good work

[@jorisguitars]

Great vid!!! Would love to see/hear the open vs closed cab!

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

You will get the video soon. :) Cheers //Kris

[@impossivel2006]

Not CAB related, but when are we getting a Harley Benton Custom Shop? I really want to customize a CST 24 with a maple fretboard

[@thegaindane]

Great cabinets... Who would ever buy another and more expensive cabinet?.. Well done Harley Benton 👍

[@StefanSchmidtRegensburg]

All amp test should be done with the binaural room mic. Great. Wish I could get a stereo IR (two mono) of this for bedroom practice with natural sound.

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

We will use the Neumann head - aka Francis - more often for similar videos. Glad to hear that you appreciate it too, it's such a cool way to show you guys what's happening in the room. :) Cheers //Kris

[@SoundForgeStudio]

thank so much for posting the video just ordered the V30/ creamback after i heard you guys playing through it !!!

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

Have fun with the mix cab, it's awesome! Cheers //Kris

[@SoundForgeStudio]

​@@ThomannsGuitarsBassesI'm looking forward to it !! I think it will pair with 6505 plus pretty well.. but we will have to wait and see !!

[@raytorvalds3699]

@@SoundForgeStudio How did you like that combo of speakers with the 6505+? Just got a 6505+ a few days ago and ordered the G212+. I decided for a V30 and a Hesu Demon. I don't know how it will sound (obviously, I have an idea). Stuff is still in transit. I thought the V30/Creamback sounded very good in the video.

[@BioHazardBHZ]

Awesome content as always guys!!! Creambacks are amazing

[@gianlucabassi8853]

Tried hb in Wonderland Thomann, they are very good for the price. Fantastic store.

[@johnwillard6198]

V30 is great for me 😊 I’ll use my tone knob😊❤

[@attilacsaba]

Nice one guys! 🤘👍🙂 Sht you must have a big stick up backside if someone doesn't like any of these cabs! To my ear they all sound fantastic ( through real headphones! ) 😀👌👍

[@gmr9701]

Hell man, wouldn't know which one to pick, they all sound great. Would pair it with a Jet City JCA100H

[@HansNederland]

open or closed? I think that when 2 drivers share the same cabinet and have different acoustic output (stereo input or different drivers), then the back should be open! Otherwise the two drivers influence each other via the shared air volume (the air pressure).

[@stephanpetersen8386]

I might be strange but I like the v30 for cleans, sounds bright and rich. I don't like it for high gain, I find it way to mutty in the lows.

[@MrPoilleke]

Hello guys, and sorry but i have no good headphones, anyhow, my tab is jacked into the mp3/line in of my 40W Blackstar V2, stereo. And hearing the diffefences quiete well... That last part with giacomo/francis is really louder, wow

[@Defekcija]

I'll have the 2x12 V30 pls and ty! Great video, cheers!

[@Mr.Goldbar]

I'll never stop requesting until you make it, but when will you release a T75 version? :)

[@frantisca]

I like the mix: I use 2x12 with a CreamBack 65 and a G-12T75 Covers quite a lot of ground...!!

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

What a great mix those two! //Kris

[@damien2729]

My ears the close Mic V30 was better for Clean and Dirty, when it went to the room mic, that's when I was like ooo, I enjoyed the Creamback/V30 for clean, then for dirty I enjoyed the Greenback more. Subtle differences, but in the end, it depends what style of Rock or Metal you're trying to achieve.

[@carminelombardi9575]

For my ears I liked the Celestions V30

[@taokichavez9319]

have You guys think of testing alnico celestion speakers? I´m really intrigued about the blue and cream againts vintage 30´s or the combination of vintage 30 + greenback. Thanks for this really cool video :D

[@andrewbecker3700]

Wonder if the 212 vertical cab can be ordered with 2 different speaker types also? V30 on the bottom and a cream back up top.

[@alvaroruizruiz7538]

Isn't the SPL difference between the creamback 65 and the v30 too much for mixing them?

[@SoloSi2024]

Nice, but the routing is the wrong shape for the popular plug n' play jack plate upgrade. Big fail.

[@christopherblair6636]

excellent demo !!

[@KarlElvis]

If only I could get those HB cabinets in the US without a hundred bucks for shipping. 🙄 I was ready to buy the HB 212 vertical empty, and it almost doubled my cost. Sigh.

[@francstringer]

Is it important to have the device you have to measure the dBA presure to get a good sound with this cab

[@andreasibanez9260]

love to build my own cabs :) But its so important to have cabs like the Harley Benton Cabs - - good quality in a price range for everyone. I am a "Midrange" - Guy :D And there is a huge difference between Open/Closed -- so please test it next time :) (Btw...i am a huge fan of the Harley Benton cst 24 :) )

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

Thanks so much Andreas! We will make the open - closed cab video. Cheers //Kris

[@CaptainPantys]

Dude. I'm about to make the unlimited hack. Step one: I'm going to buy a positive grid spark, that way I can have any amp match that I could ever want and all my custom tones. Step two: I'm going to get a Harley Benton vertical cabinet and a Harley Benton GPA 100. Step 3: buy a second Beyond Tube PreAmp so I can have tubey compression goodness in a guitar pedal. Step 4: combine all the elements to make the worlds most jank yet versatile touring rig. It's cheap, powerful, loud, lightweight, I get all my custom Children of Bodom tones. I get all the marshall amps I have been able to amp match. Plug your GPA 100 into the spark with a quarter inch to aux. Boom. All the amps in the world in one loud ass tiny package. Come on guys, tell me I'm a genius! You know it'll work!

[@HansNederland]

Unfortunately the V30/Creamback combi version has a single input, no separate input for the drivers. The 2x12 Greenback and the 2x12 Creamback versions have the option of stereo input (as seen on photos on the Thomann website). B.t.w. the 2x12 vertical versions with Greenback or Creamback also have unfortunately a single input.

[@HansNederland]

just checked: buying 2 1x12 cabinets, one with a V30 and the other with a Creamback costs only 9 Euro more than the combi. And then you have some flexibility, also with respect to placement (next to each other, on top of each other, different corners of the room, etc.). Hmm, interesting. This KZbin video made me thinking, thank you.

[@HansNederland]

impedances! I think that all 1x12 Harley Benton cabinets use 8 Ohm Celestion drivers, two of them in parallel gives 4 Ohm (watch out!). I also think that all the Harley Benton 2x12 cabinets uses two 16 Ohm drivers, that is a save 8 Ohm when using in parallel.

[@fredmarquis1105]

I want all of them lol ... Send me one please hehe, great sound guys !! ZZtop vibe in G tone in this one

[@EmopunkDr]

Lovely video guys, thanks for sharing! What about horizontal vs vertical config? When would you pick one verso the other?

[@billy-waynejeffcoat4828]

Always go horizontal and double stack 😅

[@nourdinenourdine4223]

Please thomann can i have 1×12 cab but with jensen tornado stealth 65.

[@ruffryder13]

Playing, pickups, speakers seem most important to me

[@stephenfreeman834]

The vintage 30 s cab is a real deal but the shipping cost to USA puts price to a lesser deal.

[@kmichaelp4508]

Great! Combo please. But when are you going to stock them in the USA wearhouse ?

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

Hey Mike, not sure about the stocking situation but I don't see why they shouldn't do it as fast as possible. Keep an eye open, these cabs are very nice. Cheers //Kris

[@kmichaelp4508]

@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses , have a great day Kris😊

[@pepstriebeck1163]

Be very careful when you talk about V30 speakers in general. To my knowledge there are at least 3 VERY different versions of it. By different i mean they sound different (tested both in cabinet and without). One version even looks different . Btw. it´s poorly documented and not communicated at all by Celestion as far as i know.

[@cechichan]

Are the "plus" better than the normal ones or just new ?

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

They are newer and offer speaker options the normal one doesn't. They look a little fancier too, so why not calling them Plus, right? 😆 Cheers //Kris

[@cechichan]

Makes sense !! would have loved a 2x v30 vertical with the new look and looks stronger too but i will probably go with the old one then ;D@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses

[@melexdy]

Question: I bought the sv20 combo and a 112 greenback cabin. Made a link cable from on speaker to the other. Both are 16ohm. Either speaker sounds good by it's own, but when I connect then on parallel they don't sound good at all. Am I doing something wrong?

[@mischapopischa]

You could be out of phase. Changing the contacts at only one of the speakers could be the simple solution.

[@melexdy]

@@mischapopischa Thanks for replying, change them how?

[@mischapopischa]

@@melexdy Simple twist of the cables at one end to change the polarity so that what was - becomes + and what was + becomes -.

[@melexdy]

​@@mischapopischahey mate, I've been thinking of your advice lately. What you say is connecting the speakers in serial which ads their impedance. Just tried both of the cabs in the amps twin 8 ohm ports and I like the sound. Problem is that it's too loud without an attenuator.

[@williamcharnley5558]

Hey does anyone know what mics are being used to record the amps? Look like condensers

[@ignaciodelgado6055]

Hi guys, thanks for the video! At the moment I have and play only a strat and I am trying to get closer to two artists tones, J. Frusciante and J. Mayer. I know these two artists are very different but maybe someone can guide me with which speakers combination would get me closer to Mayer/Frusciante or if any would work for both? @Gil maybe? :D thanks in advance!

[@protego93]

Would the V30/Creamback at 95 watts not be a good pairing for a 100 watt head(Katana Artist Head)? Would I be risking speaker blowout? Sorry I'm new to heads/cabs.

[@franz82able]

This combo would have a power rating of 120w, not 95. It’s the lower speaker multiplied x2, so 120w.

[@greatsouthernpansy]

I like Guillaumes armwork. This move that He makes after every gainy riff is called "The Humble Windmill" in the ancient manuscripts. It is indoor version of a move called "Full Frehley" which should be reserved only to arenas. You never go Full Frehley in the studio!

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

And this comment, ladies and djents, wins the internet today. 😆🙌 100% true! Cheers //Kris

[@galactusfortifier]

First i lookd those were Zilla cabs made for Thomann, but guess no.

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

Hey, Zillas are awesome but no. These are designed and made straight by Harley Benton. //Kris

[@thelolguy007]

The all sound great 🤷‍♂️

[@yetimatzenightcat8702]

I heard exactly how the guy in the middle, the one with the bald head, said GREENBACK 🥳

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

Haha, Francis also whispered your name, did you catch that? "Yetimatze... Greenback... you found it..." 🤣 Cheers buddy //Kris

[@yetimatzenightcat8702]

@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses the little rascal 😄

[@darthslater6077]

I AM A HUGE FAN OF HARLEY BENTON AND IT WOULD REALLY BE A GOOD DEAL..UNTIL YOU GET TO THE SHIPPING I HAD MY CABINET ALL PICKED OUT THINKING I WAS STEALING IT..UNTIL THEY ADDED SHIPPING...INSTANTLY..CART EMPTY!!!!

[@RockGuitarVibes]

Why not V30 + Greenback?

[@JoeBaermann]

DIY. The cab is sold as unloaded too.

[@RockGuitarVibes]

@@JoeBaermann Thanks for the hint - but that wasn't the question.

[@JoeBaermann]

@@RockGuitarVibes You didn’t mean it as why they don’t sell the cab with one GB and one V30?

[@RockGuitarVibes]

@@JoeBaermann Yes, Is the combination of V30 and GB that unusual?

[@JoeBaermann]

@@RockGuitarVibes With both sold in a new cab, yes. One reason is that watts divided don’t match, so they would need to label it with a multiplier of the 2 GB’s, since if the don’t, some will feed more into it and wonder why the speakers blow.

[@deHelli]

Nein nicht cool! Weil ihr keine Harley Benton Gitarren verwendet habt! Also alles nochmal mit HB`s🤣

[@PooNinja]

Gemischt ist am besten

[@PooNinja]

The synergy of all your rig makes your tone yours. Be yourself trust your ears

[@ThomannsGuitarsBasses]

Poetry. 🙌 Also, dude, your German is ACE! //Kris

[@PooNinja]

@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses i asked a friend to translate, I barely speak English 🤪