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[@turinRTS]

One small update - after more testing, I feel Wurrzag is actually the best GS lord since I recorded this a week ago. Cheers!

[@turp287]

[@nifo1013]

What was it that pushed him ahead of Grom in your opinion?

[@fedorafinder]

The Boogielord just can’t stop winning

[@BloodyBobJr]

I feel like Wurrzag could be better in domination, cause the maps tend to be bigger and games longer. But grom probably better in land battles cause you can't really snipe easily. Wurzzag with the right tools dies pretty quickly

[@corith4535]

@@nifo1013 bonewood staff is too good to pass on. It's basically a mini WAAAGH that's way more frequent and consistent.

[@deadlyydude5522]

Man that fight between Arkhan and Khatep was insane! Can’t believe the animators made something so cool

[@florians9949]

Arkhan flying scooter against Khatep DJ table. The fight of the century.

[@Sputnik5790]

They had a really intense jojo stand battle you just could not see it.

[@joespizza11b42]

It occurrs to me that a series with Turin coaching a KZbinr with RTS background new to TWWH to climb the domination total tavern ladder, similar to day9 learns dota with purge would be SICK.

[@MrChowarth1984]

Watching this makes me want a new legendary lord tournament. I know its probably more of a logistical pain than other tournaments but I live in hope

[@Pugsanity]

Me too, can't wait to see just how many lords they'll have to do for it.

[@techelitesareadisease8816]

even as a BO1 it'd have to be a spread out thing, no way you can do that in one sitting

[@Living_Target]

@@techelitesareadisease8816 even in WH2 it wasn't done in one sitting iirc

[@ubagel2115]

I love that you took the time to capture some cinematic shots for this video. The game simply looks so good, I also enjoy it when you zoom into cool looking scenes in battle replays! :)

[@CanadianBacon9719]

Love these kinds of videos, can’t wait for a top units version!

[@techelitesareadisease8816]

an argument can be made for skavenslaves being the best lord. Bring them with a chieftain, immediately desummon them, and the Chieftain's Power Grab ability activates which gives extra LD to all of your units (as long as he is on the map)

[@dorzimm]

1. The little easter eggs (No, I'm Groot! and the Mannfred face photoshop) made this video even better. Love those. 2. Sad to see bugs be a determining factor for like four or five of the lords. Yikes! Am somewhat glad my graphics card burned out so I've been forced to be patient to play IE, ha.

[@meowmeow9326]

the bugs arent too bad, at least these ones, for IE there is only 1 bug that has been annoying, and thats units constantly forgetting their orders. there are times when ill tell a unit to attack soemthing, 1 second later it goes zzz, attack again, 1s later, goes zzz, rinse and repeat like 3 more times until it finally sticks. NOT NOTICING THIS AND THAT UNIT GETTING INTO YOUR BACKLINE BC OF IT IS FRSTRATING

[@SimoLInk1698]

It's funny how Tik'taq To gets to be the best lord just because he's Kroak's (literal) wing-man

[@Tilith]

The edits are glorious ! Between the memes and the smooth display of the lords you're talking about the editing is actually very nice.

[@darko-man8549]

You should do a “how Empire plays vs each faction”

[@jabloko992]

I think that Tyrion is underrated. His strength comes from the fact that whenever you see High Elves, you always have to prepare something 'Anti-Tyrion', because if you don't, and he gets picked, he will sunfang 2-3 units of infantry out of existence and beat the tar out of your elite units. Unlike most raidboss fighters, you can't shoot him because of his size and speed. Because of said speed, he can also avoid a lot of slower figters like Grimgor and pick his own engagements. And you have to do this EVEN IF HE DOESN'T GET PICKED. Just the fact you're up against their faction means you have to allocate some gold to countering a very specific type of threat that may not even get picked at all.

[@Americanheld]

If everyone is always prepping for Tyrion, wouldn't it be more advantageous to not pick him and use your own gold to skew a different way? I'm a newbie, genuinely curious.

[@jabloko992]

@@Americanheld First of all, not everyone is aware of this or thinks this way. This is just my own observation. If I don't prep for Tyrion and get hit by him, I will have a very bad time. This is especially bad in Land Battles where you HAVE to kill him. I don't know how universally accepted this observation is at tournament levels. Second, you are technically correct, but this is only true if you know that your opponent knows this, which you normally won't. You can't mindgame them if they aren't playing if you know what I mean.

[@brucerobinson5405]

Finally!! I've been craving these kinds of videos

[@Levinsbun]

I hope Kislev gets some love. Drycha in campaign gets feral bear units that would fit great. I don't know what else to add but more variety would be great. maybe a mid tier halberd unit and a streltsi hero for some cool hybrid action.

[@gannonpatton2858]

The little captions put a little bit of spice on this video that I really enjoy.

[@Hopesfallout]

Wow you did such a good job with the cinematic footage in the background!

[@duckheadbob]

Trying to get into MP and I'm glad you're making videos like this

[@Nickelback8469]

I'm surprised the Chaos Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch wasn't the winner for his faction. With his small model size while on a disk he has all the mobility of the greater demons with the same magic for a fraction of the cost with better survivability in most cases.

[@pandainjail]

I agree. Chaos Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch on Disc is the best. Nobody can't catch him while floating. He also has Paragon of Change, god-like skill for all Tzeentch troops in capture point area.

[@TauroxTheBrassBull]

TAUROX CANNOT BELIEVE THIS BETRAYAL

[@mychalhellie1259]

For Wood Elves I prefer using Spellweaver(life) on her eagle. Just cause of arcane conduit for faster spells and loics shroud + 2 dragons is very good to attack back lines. Just do breath attack, charge then dwellers bellow when the they surround one of the dragons.

[@spearton_9466]

Will you be doing a video on build types for factions? E.g. depth guard rush vs gunline?

[@campber9908]

Not sure I agree with the Exalted Lord of Change being the best overall option for Tzeentch. While double summonable Furies is good, I’ve personally found that a Sorcerer of Tzeentch on a frisbee is better. While their melee stats are slightly worse than the Lord of Change, they are faster (can get into position easier), have the Paragon of Change passive that helps nearby unit’s barriers, can summon a unit of Spawn which seem more durable than the Furies, and pretty much perform the same role. With similar spells / abilities taken plus the frisbee, they’re 600 to 700 gold cheaper which allows you to take an extra unit and/or chevron your units. And as you mentioned, the Staff of Change isn’t the best item to take for its gold cost.

[@turinRTS]

A solid take! Cheers!

[@darko-man8549]

I hope when they nerf Belakor, that he remains the same in Campaing

[@TheAdrian229]

That video definitely goes into the book

[@kwwak4603]

Can't wait for builds vids or build section on ur site!

[@ianmacaulay1508]

You should do some testing on orion for the wood elves. He has won me so many dom matches, he can take down large targets, can cause some disruption with his spells, and he doesnt die. I'm not a great player, so id be curious to see him in sone better players hands. Sisters are great, but orion is a sleeper i think.

[@lyinarbaeldeth2456]

Mannfred looks so different in WH3's new lighting!

[@bobbo8u]

this is very useful info. you should release new videos about this whenever the meta changes

[@iphail4733]

I appreciate how much time you put into making this type of content.

[@DoublexSushi]

Thoughts on Vilitch for multiplayer? New player, I've been liking him in campaign but haven't dabbled with him in multiplayer. How does he stack up?

[@dodebro]

I needed this so badly

[@JVTVable]

need more multiplayer videos like this !!!

[@bluemilkalienmonster522]

Great video! Could you please put in time stamps for each faction?

[@Gr1mReaper54]

Archaon went from the neverchosen to the almost-always-chosen

[@PenderTheTyrant]

Ikit heals when he uses warp lightning. I don't know if it's item related or it's his base kit but it works in multiplayer too

[@fisch3392]

I need to see this ikit claw claim in action…. I tried him out and if he’s supposed to be the best I need to see it done.. any video recommendations?

[@nickf950]

Red Ulgor is #1 in our hearts

[@pituurfrog9622]

Hey fun vid! One small thing , it would help if you have timestamps for the factions. Just a suggestion though of course!

[@barontv450]

imrik on a dragon is also really fun absolute raid boss with a life wizard

[@JinzoTK]

This was such a good video. Sure hope CA don't completely change the Meta(tm) with their next patch and make it redundant. Even if they do, the video is well made so would at least be entertaining.

[@morganharris2856]

Can you do the worst lord choices?? This was fun to watch but I want to know how not to brings and why! P.S love your commentary and excitement when watching these replays

[@TuanHoang-zy7of]

Who ever swapped Turin and ItalianSpartacus face is a legend

[@TehGnomeh]

Best Lord Ever of All Time: PRINCE AND EMPEROR, KARL FRANZ

[@conservativecody6239]

I appreciate your content.

[@cal.3626]

Really wish CA would try a little harder with the generic melee lords. Would be so happy to see skaven warlords and ordinary marauder lords see more play

[@yesiam4610]

Arkan vs Khatep looking like tyson vs ali

[@UlissesSampaio]

What is the best lord overall in your opinion?

[@JaangoFett]

Not Grombrindal?? That’s a grudgin’!! But more seriously, is it just cost that makes Grombri with a Rune Smith hero less viable? I do also like the army buff from Thorek but does I find Grombi can hit like a mack truck at times and is a very durable fighter

[@Living_Target]

What about Vilitch for Tzeench? How come he wasn't considered like Valkya for Khone?

[@bluntlyhonest6803]

For Kislev i really like Boris, either on horse or bear. 9/10 the enemy lord is going to be a large unit, be it a large model or mounted. And Boris just rips and tears anything resembling a large unit to shreds. and he can take a lot of punishment to boot. And when it comes to dealing with infantry hes also very effective due to his Glaive active ability.

[@lich109]

I wonder if Azhag might be on this list if CA didn't take away his items for no reason.

[@sandercohen9712]

1. EMP: Balthasar Gelt as reinforcements because when you strip him down he's only like 350 gold allowing you to deploy a massive army, which really helps. Volk/Franz/Toddy are arty/powder/SEM magnets. Just use a Jade Wizard as your 'lord.' Volkmar still the best in LBs, you can more easily protect him from duellists with ranged. 2. VC: Strigoi Vamp lord. With double necro you already get essentially unlimited magic anyway so manny is redundant. Strigoi vamp lord is very cheap, regens, has good spells, poison attacks, ghoul summons for flanking attacks. Very fast on foot, better combat stats than Vlad von Chadstein. Ridiculously undervalued lord. 3. BRT: Sorry, it's still the Fey. Bretonnia has issues taking down blobs of halbs/armored infantry and fey helps with that thanks to her mortis. Not that expensive. Has lore of life so you don't need to bring an extra caster, and with the addition of Henri Massif you can now get a SEM without choosing Alberic/Louen or one of the generic Bret lords. Still functions well in cav blobs. 4. DW: Gonna be regular Runelord. For Thorek and his Rune of Doom you need his mount which makes him a slow and massive target and also a lot more expensive. Dawi benefits from going wide thanks to their supremely cost-effective infantry. You don't need to bring runes against all factions, so a stripped down Runelord as reinforcements is better in that case. In scenarios where you do a runelord provides essentially the same utility Thorek does, but with reduced cost. 5. NRS: Still going to be Wulfrik because he's much more flexible with the mounts that he has, and the ship as mentioned. Throgg provides no extra utility and is very prone to fire from skirmishers/archers and so on. Wulfrik on horse is fast and can dodge, against factions that don't have a lot of shooting or powerful duelist sems you can bring a mammoth. As for the other factions, I either agree or I haven't faced them / played them often enough to really give my opinion about it

[@thisismine945]

Damn, Fredboy got a sweet makeover

[@tyrantrexx1365]

My only grievance is that there is a significant lack of Queek Headtaker.

[@PKK_edits]

I honestly wouldnt be caught dead using any type of chariot

[@anthonyboylan5436]

don't forget guys if you play in one of Turin's tournaments you pick Queek, Tretch or Kazrak you win the hearts and minds of the people

[@delasvegas9644]

TLDR: Be'lakor and dwellers bellow are OP

[@darkagerush3098]

So ironic all the shade valkia got for her trailer and she's now probably the best for her faction of the four champions.

[@meowmeow9326]

ive only seen people happy with her, aside from meming her cone head (which i think looks fine)

[@florians9949]

8:41, no, Archaon is Bel’akor’s boy.

[@trainheartnet5657]

15:03 Dat editing, tho

[@daniellagergren2227]

Dude was that Italianspartacus face on manfred? lol

[@Pewling]

It's Turin's face photoshapped into Sparty's face. It is super cursed. They did the same with Sparty so he has Turin's hair and lack of big beard, for one of the Everchosen tournaments back in the day. xD

[@dairewoods2544]

Interesting to see Alberic being your pic as top brettonian lord, I would've thought Louen is more typical with his better stats and healing

[@KaiReel23]

i think its hellstriders - getting more anti large vs them is nice( + breath trident - as explained )

[@The_Delta_Shadow]

I agree I think the anti large bonus is a big factor alongside the trident

[@dairewoods2544]

@@KaiReel23 I'm glad to see the generic boi getting some love

[@cloundsumo1]

I don't know who Turin replaced Manfred's face with, but that looks too natural than it should.

[@Pewling]

It's Italian Spartacus and Turin's faces merged together. There's another one too with Turin's hair and the lack of Sparty's beard, with Sparty's eyes instead. Super cursed image. "Everchosen Turin faceswap" in google should reveal it.

[@2MeatyOwlLegs]

the cinematic shots in the background were very cool. now onto the worst lords :D

[@BloodyBobJr]

One word, GREASUS!

[@joshramirez2049]

Ayo Turin when we gonna get a randomized no unit caps tourney? I wanna see all the goofy campaign units! Edit:also you not mentioning imrik makes me sad. Same thing as franz,I think he’s good but with life wizard being meta he’s so good. He will kill anything in the game and has the vuvuzela

[@GrandMarshalGarithos]

Your choice for the Empire has my consent.

[@meesert]

Isnt Valkia a Chaos ud lord? Or can you use her as Korn in mp?

[@dhmossedios2194]

Yep you can use her with Khorne. Same for Azazel, Vilitch and Festus. You can use them with their factions

[@sherpamcderpa1961]

Solid content

[@jcbvickers]

What is Alpha Striking?

[@jabloko992]

HOW GOOD IS KHOLEK?! Plz tell me he's at least viable.

[@simsence831]

Good to know, but I'm wayyyy to bad at micro to even try multiplayer 😅

[@Petterwass]

Cathay really needs a couple of other forms of Lords IMO

[@trogdor221]

I really want to see a gun lord for Cathay. Buffs like the dwarf engineer or gunnery wight

[@florians9949]

@@trogdor221 probably for a future dlc for Cathay and introduce Monkey King/Khuresh.

[@lyinarbaeldeth2456]

Empire started with just one lord type, and only gradually got their second and third through DLC. I imagine it'll be the same for Cathay - they're going to lock it behind paywalls.

[@Hargrovius]

I think bringing lord magistrate out of the shadow realm as a support lord similar to the arch lector would be great.

[@331Bdubs]

Wish the Lizardmen lord choice was updated 🫠

[@Bans94]

YOU FORGOT THE DAWI, THIS ONES GOING IN THE BOOK!!!

[@Pewling]

Did not!

[@nybethobdilord6912]

I'm still iffy on the Bray Shaman as the best lord for Beastmen. Especially in domination. I think Morghur or Taurox take the spot. Malagor, Khazrak and the Bray Shaman can get picked off too easily especially by factions with good ranged which is something the beastmen already struggle with.

[@blacklight4720]

I think it was mistake giving beastman lords flying mount. I also think many units became way too fast.

[@Travestyshard]

So as was feared, half of the picks are for cheap no-names rather than Legendary lords. The meta for units is already tier 1/tier 2 and now the same for lord choices. I believe elites units and Legendary lords either need to have the formula cost adjusted downward or given other advantages over chaff and turn 10 units. Who gets excited when Turin begins a cast by saying, "On this side we have a sorcerer leading an army of marauders into the sunset"?

[@artlife9563]

It sounds like you are talking down a hallway.

[@Shogun519]

Would love to see a campaign lords tier list

[@snarfbomber298]

Lizard men done dirty

[@skeptic1124]

May sigmar bless you too!

[@torbk]

Hey, Turin, you missed the most powerful Halfling lord! . . . . . . Yeah, I know. It is a bad, old joke.

[@theaussieperspective]

The automatic timestamps make me giggle

[@pudjambe382]

mannfred is good but vlad got vanguard on all unit good to send all the melee unit fast to counter ranged. Dont forget the massive regen whit Ghorst i got a wonderfull replay whit the regen ability

[@toxicfireball2690]

This is for multiplayer

[@rubz1390]

Unsummoning Necromancer just to use forbidden rod over and over is so gamey.

[@TheDisguisedOwl]

Hey Turin!

[@butmunch19121993]

empire is not a bad faction they are for sure one of the strongest. they have way to much easy op cheese they can do. The amount of times i have had someone try to helstorm rocket me along with loads of war waggons and grenadiers at the start. Its devastating if you don't build to counter this from the start providing your faction even can

[@andrewhannigan931]

I disagree on the high elf choice. The regular mage has the book of hoeth and starwood staff giving ridiculous WoM. with that i found its usually better to go for a different lord and get a mage. Honestly, i think Imrik is the best for the same reasons as you gave for Franz

[@DanielCosta-zp6jl]

Yes emrik is really good but expensive.

[@andrewhannigan931]

@@DanielCosta-zp6jl yeah but with life mage support he'll pay for himself easily enough. His real value is that he can beat skarbrand and Belakor in a duel, easily If you have regrowth, As well as the melee attack buff which helps silverin guard/white lions hurt elite units

[@toxicfireball2690]

Yeah but you’re dumping almost 4k gold into that combo. Meaning your army will be extremely small and considering HE already struggles with their army size it means Imrik have to hard carry a lot.

[@mateuszkubiak4434]

The most cost effective is probably Alarielle , cheap (for HE lord) what allows to goes high elves wider. Healing is great combination with HE melle prowess and mastery, and has three spammable passives two most useful being Life Bloom, Shield of Saphery. Thanks to high melee defence, Shieldstone of Isha and great acces to healing is suprisingly survivable for character with only 3880 HP, and her eagel + phoenix are great combination in many matchups to attack enemy backline. Boon of Isha is good against new deamon factions adding HE immunity to psychology and magical damage that they mostly lack.

[@obesechicken13]

Not as good as Sigvald and expensive but the Daemon Prince of Slaanesh is insane if your opposing faction can route or crumble and they can't just shoot him down with no ap missile units. He has great stats and reduces melee attack and defense by an insane amount constantly around himself. The Chaos lord of Slaanesh is also ok. He's like a mounted sigvald with a silver shield, armor, and secret perfect vigor but no regen. Mounted sigvald isn't as good as footgald though. Norscan lords both suck. Best lord is the cheapest unit you can find and unsummon them right away (Is that doable?). Wulfrik's boat is great. Too bad Wulfrik dies in like 2 minutes to 4 ranged units and is too big to dodge on his mammoth. Throgg isn't much better with his giant hitbox soaking all the arrows. Wulfrik on a mammoth needs a shield. You're just paying a lot to give your opponents good targets for lord sniping and unfortunately ladder is like 80% lord sniping. So they're just an expensive mammoth or I dunno what Throgg should be compared to, a giant?, that you're too afraid to use because if they die, and they will die unless your opponent is much worse, you just lose. Horse Wulfrik might work, and he's not armor piercing on a horse which works with the 90% bonus base attack, but then you compare him to the WoC lords and almost all of them are better... I mean Horserick is just valkia except his boat feels slower, he can't fly, his model is bigger, and his melee stats are worse and lacks armor piercing. I'd say Tyrion is the best high elf lord due to bugged healing meaning he's going to have like 1.6x his normal health without spending winds, and constant ridiculous melee stats. He can almost duel skarbrand and maybe would if the healing didn't have a cooldown. The vampire coast captains are just more vulnerable than cylostra. If they're on foot they're too slow and can't duel and if they're on a crab they just eat arrows. Again you should treat lords as "if this dies I just lose" and 80% of ladder players have some plan to snipe your lord. Cylostra eats arrows too but at least she's tankier. Maybe the captains are fine just because the mounts of all the lords are so big. I'd still put sisters above ancient treemen because I suspect the treemen just eat arrows. It's like bringing Count Noctilus in his mecha. You're just providing a pincushion that causes your entire army to lose leadership. Even against melee factions the pincushion lords might get hit by like an exalted plaguebearer and they're usually too slow to get out of bad spots.

[@pedroaquiles2074]

you missed chaos dwarfs

[@Draconas]

I hate that to be able to use Valkia in PVP I have to buy the DLC

[@richardsaunders-irving9885]

I'm surprised I don't see more of these in your tournaments 🤔

[@unitedeagle4046]

No Imrik? 😢

[@DanielCosta-zp6jl]

He hate h elves that’s why.

[@Jigrej]

Honestly for skaven the best by far is the grey on Bell, not ikit

[@TheDeathleader12]

You forgot the Tau. How could you…

[@motionpictures555]

Best Lord for Beastmen Bray Shaman?? That’s a hero character, no?

[@pandainjail]

Beastmen - Disagree. I think Malagor still the best one. His spell choice might be limited but his mobility will make him survive until the end. Great Bray Shaman on chariot is good too but He is very vulnerable against Lord Snipe meta. Ogre - Agree. Slaughtermaster is the best one. Tyrant is also okay in some matchup because he can regen HP himself. Two LLs are worst. Tzeentch - Disagree. Chaos Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch on Disc is the best. More mobility and more cost-effective. Exalted Lord of Change can summon Chaos Furies twice but so what? Tzeentch always pick 3-4 Chaos Furies every matches anyways. Greenskins - Agree. Grom is the best currently. However if Azhag get all his Legendary Items and skills back, he would be instead. Wyvern speed + Spirit Leech spam is seriously broken.

[@erikp5393]

HOW DARE YOU NOT MENTION IMRIK AS THE TRUE BEST LORD IN THE GAME!? HE IS MAGNIFICENT! HE EVEN SAYS SO HIMSELF!!!

[@adamtrotter9612]

Best Beastman lord not even a legendary D: