@@jasonmatteson9909 Yeah idk why he chose Strawberry over Gooden.
@vindog24614 жыл бұрын
Jason Matteson Albert Belle. Lofton deserves to be in.
@jeremyrhansen66374 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmatteson9909 Belle
@daltonfarris4 жыл бұрын
@@vindog2461 idk Manny Ramirez was better than both of em tbh
@jackorymcsimmonds25264 жыл бұрын
As a Blue Jays fan I appreciate you being as upset over Delgado as we are lol
@onthemoundwithbdubs19704 жыл бұрын
McGriff should be in to
@alfonsoferraro67744 жыл бұрын
And Dave Stieb
@angeldelgado61894 жыл бұрын
Best player ever not to get enough votes to be alive in the ballot.
@TheGuyWithTheSniper4 жыл бұрын
Yankee fan here. Delgado is one of my all-time favorites and it's a disgrace he isn't in the hall.
@jamesblack62264 жыл бұрын
Joe carter over delgado
@lewr37383 жыл бұрын
Steve Garvey is another Dodger that deserves to be in the hall of fame. 2599 hits, 755 extra-base hits, 1308 RBI's, .294 BA, .338 career post-season BA, 1X NL MVP, 10X NL all-star, 4x gold glove, 81' World Series Champion.
@brantfrederick99172 жыл бұрын
What about his consecutive games streak I believe he is 3rd behind Ripken and Gehrig.
@michaelbaucom40194 жыл бұрын
Gil Hodges: also add managerial career( which I'm surprised Marc didn't mention), he managed the 1969 Miracle Mets to a world series title. That, with his great playing career, should have had him in years ago
@samuelmoulds10164 жыл бұрын
yeah, and talking about MANAGING!!! Hodges took my team, the Washington Senators, the lowly Washington Senators, to respectability!! WHY DO YOU THINK THE METS WANTED GIL TO MANAGE!!!!!!
@torrjpct94924 жыл бұрын
My pick for the Dodgers would have been Steve Garvey, but he is included here as a Podre. I once looked over past BBWAA voting results, and Hodges had high percentages while on the BBWAA ballot (besides being under 75%). I've never seen anyone do as well as he did when on the ballot and never get elected for as long as he has, so I don't disagree on Hodges.
@samuelmoulds10164 жыл бұрын
@@torrjpct9492 yeah, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!
@RevoVansen4 жыл бұрын
I always thought he was in.
@johnjordan33144 жыл бұрын
Amen
@Killitwithfire294 жыл бұрын
For the blue jays you can also add Dave Stieb, excellent pitcher somehow not in the hall
@DakodaOK4 жыл бұрын
I'm still pissed they overlooked McGriff the Crime Dog. The guy locked down so many seasons and never really rode out DLs or any kind of allegations. His curse was being in Tampa Bay.
@heartofsteel19724 жыл бұрын
Vida Blue, Frank Tanana, Dave Stieb, Darrell Porter, Jack Clark, Greg Luzinski, Fred Lynn, Frank White, Bob Grich, Toby Harrah, Dwight Evans, Steve Garvey, Keith Hernandez, Don Mattingly.
@samuelmoulds10164 жыл бұрын
yeah, and how about J.W. Porter!!!
@heartofsteel19724 жыл бұрын
Samuel Moulds ...Ted Simmons
@heartofsteel19724 жыл бұрын
Samuel Moulds ...Darrell Porter was a 3 time starting all star back to back and the MVP of the 1983 World Series. Catchers should catch a break they are the workhorse of the team but they get overlooked for their work and expect them to hit 300 Hr's plus.
@thinkaboutit21574 жыл бұрын
Talk about catchers Lance Parrish deserves an honorable mention along with Javy Lopez and Benito Santiago. Catchers need recognition!
@thinkaboutit21574 жыл бұрын
Bill Buckner was a solid hitting player add him on to the list. Won a Batting title and was a hit machine
@ilj12594 жыл бұрын
Some great choices here are some other honorable mentions: Mark Grace - Cubs most hits in the 1990s and won gold gloves Julio Franco - Rangers Mookie Wilson - Mets Dave Steib - Blue Jays Kenny Lofton - Indians the definition of a lead off hitter Andy Van Slyke- Cardinals power hitter gold glove winner Moises Alou - Expos Aramis Ramirez - Pirates
@Ysoserious111 ай бұрын
Derrick Lee was better than Mark Grace
@myglorioushog4 жыл бұрын
For the Mets I’d go with Dwight Gooden, or Jerry Koosman. Gooden was so good for about 5 years. In 1985 had one of the greatest seasons ever. And Koosman won 222 games and had a career 3.36 era. Just my opinion.
@silverfalkon96874 жыл бұрын
myglorioushog - Koosman, Grote, Harrelson.
@tomb45754 жыл бұрын
Johnny Bench said if Jerry Grote was the Reds catcher he'd [Bench]would have been playing 3rd base.
@MrSteve30654 жыл бұрын
Sorry, it was 2 of the best years EVER pitched, but only 2. No Hall for 2 year wonders no matter how great those two years were.
@commodorezero Жыл бұрын
James Franco is also the reliever with the most saves who isn't in. But yes Gooden and Koosman are the top 2 Mets outside the HOF IMO.
@mikeimpressionsreviews9831 Жыл бұрын
@@commodorezeroKeith Hernandez
@davyt02474 жыл бұрын
As awesome as Nettles was... my choice would be Therman Munson. Fantastic catcher and batter, Postseason stud, the list goes on and on about how good he was.
@jackhalley55434 жыл бұрын
davyt0247 hol up he's not in???
@davyt02474 жыл бұрын
@@jackhalley5543 no he isn't
@jayhalloween13344 жыл бұрын
@@jackhalley5543 He was on the veteran's committee ballot last year and wasn't voted in
@davyt02474 жыл бұрын
@@jayhalloween1334 and I have no idea why they didn't
@jasonmatteson99094 жыл бұрын
@@jayhalloween1334 which makes him ineligible for the list.
@OriginalGrasshopper4 жыл бұрын
As a Pirates fan, I’m glad you picked Dave Parker! The Cobra should’ve been in Cooperstown ages ago. I would’ve also been fine with Bill Madlock. Mad Dog won 4 NL batting titles and is a lifetime .305 hitter yet he’s been snubbed by the Hall.
@patrickmichels78884 жыл бұрын
OriginalGrasshopper how can a 4 time batting champ get shut out. And Parker was unreal.
@thereilneid28684 жыл бұрын
Dave Parker was one of my all-time favorite's. So talented, his career was to shirt
@tomb45754 жыл бұрын
Like Albert Bell writers where intimidated by him.
@RobAGabor4 жыл бұрын
Al "Scoop" Oliver and in honor of my father, may he rest In peace, Roy Face.
@thereilneid28684 жыл бұрын
@@RobAGabor sympathy & condolences to you and your family Rob
@norwoodwildlife98494 жыл бұрын
Good pick on Dwight Evans, his numbers mimic those of Jim Rice and he was a much better defensive player.
@SamWesting4 жыл бұрын
Evans was overshadowed by Jim Rice & Fred Lynn in Boston's star-studded OF. But he was better all-round & played at an elite level longer than either of them.
@rhettcochran88244 жыл бұрын
Dewey was a stud
@alaskaguyd9634 жыл бұрын
He led all of MLB in extra base hits for the entire decade in the 80's.
@tomb45754 жыл бұрын
Had the Red Sox won the 75 WS Evan's would have been the series mvp.
@steveburt53734 жыл бұрын
Keith Hernandez should be an honorable mention. MVP, 11 consecutive gold gloves, 2X world series champion, 5 time all star and almost 2200 hits.
@malojohnson64042 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir!!! Keith Hernandez does belong in the HOF, dude was a stud
@davepangburn4 жыл бұрын
One technical point; Unfortunately, Dwight Evans did not spend all 20 season with the Red Sox. He spent his 20th and final season with the Orioles.
@scottlawrencemason4 жыл бұрын
Cubs:Mark Grace Marlins: Charlie Hough Royals: I’m partial to David Cone Angels: Chuck Finley or Jim Fergosi Padres: Benito Santiago
@toddhyatt19124 жыл бұрын
Mark Grace had a solid HOF career
@WillMunny224 жыл бұрын
i agree with Grace also
@Rockhound61654 жыл бұрын
How Grace isn't in already is a crime. Lifetime .303 BA, 2,445 hits, 3X all star and a 4X gold glove winner.
@Jponto114 жыл бұрын
The ones I would change: SF - Bonds BOS - Clemens NYM - Wright CLE - Manny Ramirez
@joeymiller27254 жыл бұрын
Jack P u literally put all steroids guys and Wright hasn’t been on the ballot yet to be rejected or anything yet anyway so u can’t say him
@HummBabyBaseball4 жыл бұрын
They're still on the ballot
@joeymiller27254 жыл бұрын
Humm Baby Baseball ⚾️okay there’s no point in putting obviously choices in a video. It’s nice to put out other people in their careers then the obvious folks...
@connerbv12094 жыл бұрын
Did you not listen a single thing he said at the beginning
@Jponto114 жыл бұрын
joey miller David Wright has no chance at making the hall of fame and steroids or not the guys I mentioned are hall of gamers
@ThePapaJ814 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes.. Dale Murphy should be in the HOF.
@taylorwinslette82524 жыл бұрын
5:53 Us Braves fans are still wondering this
@tylerpons58874 жыл бұрын
Taylor Winslette im a Nats fan and I totally agree. It’s ridiculous
@serlat8654 жыл бұрын
Taylor Winslette I’m a Jays fan and I agree
@samanthatorres36394 жыл бұрын
Taylor Winslette 100%
@whitedeion5984 жыл бұрын
I'd pick andruw jones over murphy
@taylorwinslette82524 жыл бұрын
white deion I would too, but he specifically said guys that straight up didn’t make it. Andruw is still on the ballot
@tylerbublitz24544 жыл бұрын
One other guy I wish was consider from the Twins was Tony Oliva. I wish more knew about him and his story and I think it would help him get in.
@samuelmoulds10164 жыл бұрын
yeah, I have a major league baseball signed by Tony! hope he makes it to the HOF.
@tomb45754 жыл бұрын
Ah yes if only his knees had held up.
@Thewillshow1232 жыл бұрын
Tony made it in the Hall this year. Ya love to see it!
@johntaormina10842 жыл бұрын
I remember Tony Olivia I think he won the batting title his rookie season . A great hitter
@Gemnist982 жыл бұрын
VC pick, let’s GOOOOO
@rapidcounty4 жыл бұрын
this whole time i thought Jim Edmonds was in the HOF
@brendansummers13154 жыл бұрын
He didn't even get 5 percent of the vote the first time. Many voters have said that they thought he would stay on the ballot, so they voted for others instead.
@andrewandyo1son4 жыл бұрын
I heard he was an asshole and he brought down team morale on the Angels.
@bradyoung76014 жыл бұрын
for the A' s i gotta go w vida blue the guy was absolutely dominant
@macdreezy54104 жыл бұрын
Definitely, Blue was a beast!
@thedude30653 жыл бұрын
he was one of the biggest reasons the A's had a three-peat in 72-74
@matthewstewart64262 жыл бұрын
Belle really got overlooked because of the era he played in. He had one of the best 10 year runs of all time.
@antonioreconquistador Жыл бұрын
Imo it was probably the corked bat incident and his decline after the run. A lot of players with amazing 10 year runs and brutal, career derailing problems- controversial or not, end up being overlooked.
@waywardson16634 жыл бұрын
When you came to the Marlins, Kevin Brown was the first player that popped into my head. His career numbers are quite similar to Doc Halladay's. If Delgado or McGriff had put up their best seasons in NY or LA, they would already be in the HOF.
@Macros19714 жыл бұрын
I didn't think you'd get Tim Salmon for my Halos! Great job! 😃
@Macros19714 жыл бұрын
@Ocasio-Cortez4prez2022 second to Mike Trout puts him in a group with nearly every other outfielder that ever played. Few could claim too be in his league
@Macros19714 жыл бұрын
@Ocasio-Cortez4prez2022 it's the most unusual thing to have 2 players named that way. It's unfortunate that Tim had so many injuries that shortened his career. I'm glad that it looks like they will share 1 thing, which is that they will both be careful Angels players. That's a pretty rare thing these days.
@rogregg294454 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the love for the Big cat! Like he missed a whole year because of cancer he plays in 99 Braves probably win the World Series and he definitely hits over four hundred homers
@Teardehawkee4 жыл бұрын
Curt Flood......Every free agent everywhere should bow their heads for his sacrifice.
@seanswinton62424 жыл бұрын
Rand-Tor {Tim Mungin} This man should be in the Hall Of Fame of every major league sport ( basketball and baseball) are the two biggest examples. The monster contracts players today receive wouldn't be possible if not for Curt Flood!
@tomb45754 жыл бұрын
Now that Miller is in.
@rentslave4 жыл бұрын
His refusal to report to the Phillies eventually led them to getting a better center fielder,Garry Maddox.
@TheMegaDudeBroski4 жыл бұрын
Derek Lee...why that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time. Such an underrated player, definitely deserves a spot in the hall of fame
@ryank57614 жыл бұрын
No he doesn't
@andrewbashor73934 жыл бұрын
Hold up, what about Vida Blue?! My dad watched him and told me he was straight up nasty!
@mystermysterio53484 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@quinnellingson64453 жыл бұрын
I looked it up and it was because of substance abuse. Still a insane pitcher tho.
@bennettdean75554 жыл бұрын
Marc love the pick for the Twins! Johan was a beast but in my opinion Tony Olivia is the best Twin not in the hall! If u have never heard of him look at his stats! It’s a crime he’s not in
@braindeadwolf22434 жыл бұрын
Bennett Dean I’m a Twins fan and I 100% agree. Going into this video that’s who I assumed he would pick.
@jokercell6824 жыл бұрын
Tony is the pick not Johan. Tony's career was cut short, but the numbers stand alone. Many of today's baseball writers have stated Tony should be in the hall. Hopefully one day he will get in from the Veteran's Committee vote.
@shanner4 жыл бұрын
Johan is still robbery, too
@jimduggan89624 жыл бұрын
@@shanner You don't get in the HOF with a career as short as Johan's. He's not HOF worthy. He only played 9 full seasons. Awful pick by KnowNothingMarc.
@outsidethewaxbox4 жыл бұрын
If Tony O could have played in the DH era there would be no question whether he would be in the Hall.
@ezillmer864 жыл бұрын
Al Oliver belongs in the Hall
@C0rnvillain4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Mets fan and man if half my friends heard you pass on Mattingly they'd have a heart attack
@wiz34214 жыл бұрын
Mark Grace for the Cubs? Spent a lot more of his career in Chicago over Derrick Lee and played the same position.
@phathead414 жыл бұрын
And didn't cost as much too. I read somewhere (or made up the stat myself) that Grace led the Majors in total doubles over the 90s.
@wiz34214 жыл бұрын
@@phathead41 I thought the same thing. I cannot believe he did not receive any consideration. Probably because he wasn't a power hitting first basemen like the rest of the league had during the steroid era.
@nathansmith18764 жыл бұрын
I grew up an Astros fan (eventually switched to being a Yankees fan) but there were some players who if but for injury... Cesar Cedeno was amazing early in his career. Very Ricky Henderson like numbers. JR Richards was a consistent 300 K pitcher who was at his peak when he had a stroke. I had the 1979 Topps strikeout leaders card with JR leading the NL and Ryan for the AL. If they had been able to pitch together for a few years. The 'Stros pitching was unreal back then... Joe Niekro, Ken Forsch, a young Joaquin Andujar, Dave Smith and Joe Sambito out in the pen,... later they brought in Don Sutton.... I think both JR and Cesar would have been HOFers if not for health problems. Joe Niekro... well, his brother made it. He might be an outside case. Dave Smith and Joe Sambito both had some dominant years as closers but closers weren't valued as high and neither had the longevity. Berkman was great in his prime... But my vote? Jim 'The Toy Cannon' Wynn might also be an outside candidate. His power numbers were hurt by playing in the Astrodome and his batting average was never great but he had crazy walk totals for the era. He had six seasons with over 100 walks and one with 148. He had 3 seasons with over 30 HRs playing half his games in the Astrodome, which for today's fans, to put it into context, was the anti-Coors, dare I say it, even the anti-prehumidore-Coors. It was were home runs went to die. (Actually, that was one of the things that made it possible to stop liking the Astros. They constructed their teams entirely differently after leaving the Astrodome.) bleacherreport.com/articles/421457-jim-wynn-a-deserving-hall-of-famer
@Gemnist982 жыл бұрын
In terms of players that still have the chance, the best Astro not yet in the Hall of Fame is undoubtedly Billy Wagner. I’m okay with Marc picking Berkman though; he was an insane hitter that, outside of Houston, tragically got overshadowed by the other two Killer B’s with Bagwell’s slugger stats and Biggio’s longevity winning out and giving them Hall of Fame stats.
@steamygrave4 жыл бұрын
Cubs - Mark Grace
@ryanburns67804 жыл бұрын
steamygrave came to the comments to post this.
@modelbehavior15084 жыл бұрын
agreed
@donm44524 жыл бұрын
Grace is a good choice but I'd go with Sosa. He along with Bonds, Clemens and the rest of the "asterisk crew" will get in eventually.
@JerseyDevil264 жыл бұрын
It is absolutely criminal that they are keeping Dale Murphy out of the Hall of Fame. An absolute head-scratcher.
@redsoxfan264014 жыл бұрын
Dwight Evans did NOT play his whole career with the Red Sox. His final season was 1991 with Baltimore.
@DanielMoore454 жыл бұрын
I said the same thing out loud when I watched this. lol
@josmor15094 жыл бұрын
So. Maybe Tony Armas can replaced him ?
@carlmckibben30574 жыл бұрын
John Maker h
@bigdeeski7714 жыл бұрын
Greenwell should be it instead of Dewey
@wbdrugstrat4 жыл бұрын
Galarraga was a beast offensively and defensively. A very smart player. He did have a horrible slump for a few years after leaving Montreal, and although he did have a 3 to 4 year slump after leaving Montreal, he bounced back nicely. He is the one guy who would take over games when his number was called up with men on base. A strong candidate for the hall, if they ever truly gave guys a second look. Fred McGriff was just super consistent, and like Galarraga, always a class act. He needs to be in the hall. Delgado is a hall of famer, as he was one of the greats of his generation. It is most likely that his political stance against the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, as well as, the use of Vieques (PR) for weapons' testing. Delgado was great, and should be in the hall, as politics should not be a barrier for anyone to be in the hall.
@fredklein3829 Жыл бұрын
If Dale Murphy can't be in the HOF with 398 home runs then neither can Galarraga with his 399 HR. Murphy was also a better overall player and Galarraga struck out far too much.
@bri.a2k4 жыл бұрын
DAVE STEWART for the oakland a's
@ccncate4 жыл бұрын
Canseco?
@Rockhound61654 жыл бұрын
@matthew tant Gaylord Perry cheated with the spit ball and he's in and the difference is, the spitball was by rule illegal. Steroids, while illegal, baseball looked the other way especially after the 1994 strike.
@slicknikko654 жыл бұрын
Eric Chavez as well.
@dodgertownusa65443 жыл бұрын
vida blue was better than dave stewart
@leemcdonald13424 жыл бұрын
Boog Powell should get into the BBQ hall of fame. (What, I was born in Memphis.)
@knightstarr45604 жыл бұрын
Bobby Bonds ... not the Bonds everyone else knows but the Senior. He was making noise in his era and his records show he had pop.
@Rockhound61654 жыл бұрын
Yeah but for what team? He played for just about everybody.
@ivanherrera38574 жыл бұрын
Another Dodger that should be in the Hall is Fernando Valenzuela!
@waynejohanson10834 жыл бұрын
And perhaps Orel Hershiser
@loualbino55364 жыл бұрын
I thought he was in the hall of fame. Fucking shame that he isn't.
@robertsaul2344 жыл бұрын
Steve Garvey, Maury Wills, Tommy John
@waynejohanson10834 жыл бұрын
@@robertsaul234 All deserving. You forgot to mention Orel Hershisher, Gil Hodges, Tommy Davis, Willie Davis etc.
@robertsaul2344 жыл бұрын
@@waynejohanson1083 I did mention Gil Hodges under another comment on this thread. Reggie Smith and Brooklyn Dodger Don Newcombe are a couple of others.
@Dreone-14 жыл бұрын
Dwight played his final season with Baltimore
@bryanttisdale24464 жыл бұрын
Cleveland- Kenny Lofton Atlanta- Andrew Jones Mets - Keith Hernandez Toronto- Fred Mcgriff Pirates- Dave Parker Yankees- Bernie Williams Red sox- Ellis Burks. *Lost MVP'S to steroid guy caminniti. 95'
@leonzaduncan24384 жыл бұрын
96
@av02784 жыл бұрын
First and foremost, great job. You always put a lot of time and effort into your videos and it's evident. Fantastic content bro. Anyway, I have to disagree with you on just two of your picks. Gallaraga (Colorado) and Buhner (Seattle). Both great picks for sure but for me, it's Todd Helton for Colorado and Ichiro for Seattle.
@Lord_Bibulous4 жыл бұрын
Ichiro isn't eligible yet. He just retired last year.
@fredbobberts5753 Жыл бұрын
Norm Cash and Bill Freehan were also pretty good hitters in a tough era. Freehan played a long time and was a top hitter and backstop; Cash is second on the Tiger list with 373 HR, again, in a tough era.
@scottmierisch15194 жыл бұрын
Cardinals I think it should be Willie McGee
@robbyv14762 жыл бұрын
I agree. I really like Jimmy Ballgame but he was not a career Cardinal. While we got Willie from the Yanks, he did spend the majority of his career as a Cardinal.
@c2000655244 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about Tim Salmon, he was never an all star
@K37-h1z4 жыл бұрын
Really? Fun fact
@ccncate4 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked. I'm the biggest Tim Salmon fan and I did not realize that.
@nicksticksrussoofficial60284 жыл бұрын
Great Video Marc!!
@DanielMoore454 жыл бұрын
Overall, a very good list. However, I have a few differences: Mets: Keith Hernandez Indians: Kenny Lofton, Omar Vizquel (Belle is a good choice too, though) Braves: Andruw Jones (but I understand why you went with Murphy) Orioles: Rafael Palmeiro, Bobby Grich DBacks: Curt Schilling Yankees: Don Mattingly Rockies: Todd Helton (again, I can see your reasoning for choosing Galarraga)
@Texama57 Жыл бұрын
Andruw Jones was so fun to watch play & of course Murphy, they should be in
@timvran62484 жыл бұрын
I’d go Todd Helton over galaraga for the Rockies
@shanner4 жыл бұрын
Helton should be a HoF. It's outrageous.
@donnybailey24534 жыл бұрын
He said he wouldn’t use players on the ballot
@shanner4 жыл бұрын
@@donnybailey2453 ah mb
@BlueUnicorn9284 жыл бұрын
Love to see Helton in at one point, but gotta give props to Galaraga
@aaronscarpa74694 жыл бұрын
He’s still on the ballot
@BobHarrison12294 жыл бұрын
Good list. So many fans here in Detroit think that Sweet Lou has been robbed, but he didn't quite get HOF numbers. I'm trying to decide if "He averaged ____ every single season" is redundant, logically impossible, or both.
@jamesblack62264 жыл бұрын
Im still baffled why Thurmond Munson isnt in the hall
@jamesblack62264 жыл бұрын
Has a mvp....made all star every yr he has played
@K37-h1z4 жыл бұрын
Really undersold dwight Evans defensively, its maddening hes not in
@augusto.42944 жыл бұрын
Hello Marc, who do you think will win the subway series this year and how many games to how many games?
@Jponto114 жыл бұрын
Depends on the pitching matchups but prolly the Yankees
@danreichardt43694 жыл бұрын
Bruh Mets ain’t making the playoffs
@milopop00064 жыл бұрын
@@danreichardt4369 that is not relevant to this conversation
@Jponto114 жыл бұрын
Dan Reichardt he’s talking about the regular season. They play each other 4 times
@cooperhershenhorn42844 жыл бұрын
Augusto Osorio mets
@peterperpetua29744 жыл бұрын
Al Oliver should be in there for one of the teams he played for. Rangers ?
@johnwest65654 жыл бұрын
What about Vida Blue for the A's?
@Rockhound61654 жыл бұрын
Numbers aren't good enough.
@leonzaduncan24384 жыл бұрын
better than Sal Bando
@1worldnews1worldmagazine264 жыл бұрын
Great video! You rock Marc! I agree with the entire lineup!!! 💯
@FlitzSpitz4 жыл бұрын
Shoeless Joe should be in for the sole purpose that he had no idea what he signed
@davidlewis59294 жыл бұрын
So he didn't know what he signed but he still took the money knowing what it was for.
4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even worry about Jackson not knowing what he signed. His performance proves he didn't try throwing anything. For the series he had no errors, 12 hits which was a World Series record until 1964, and hit .375 for the series, the highest average for either the Sox or Reds.
@davidlewis59294 жыл бұрын
@ but he took the money knowing what it was for. He knew what they wanted when he took the money, he knew what his teammates were doing and said nothing which means regardless of his performance he was accepting of the act in throwing the series. If bank robbers get caught prior to making it to the get away car the get away drive still gets charged as an accomplice. I feel for Joe but he didn't do the right thing. If he would have taken the money then gone to his manager or the commissioner and said his teammates were going to throw the game, he would be in the HoF. By the time he was made the offer several players were already tossed from baseball and the league made sure everyone knew if they were caught that would be the case. It is a sad story but an excellent warning to others. One which another player on this list clearly failed to heed.
4 жыл бұрын
@@davidlewis5929 so what if he took the money??? He did nothing to throw the games and his play shows it. But, to each their own.
@FlitzSpitz4 жыл бұрын
David Lewis You’re one of the people who says Pete Rose should never be close to the HoF. Fuck off dude
@N8R_Quizzie4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that you didn't include Ichiro Suzuki for the Mariners because everyone already knows that he's 1st ballot 1st year and maybe even unanimous vote into the Hall of Fame.
@BeeswaxLV4 жыл бұрын
superQuizzie only way he’s not first ballot is if they found out he was also placing bets on games
@LoowheezeBreeze4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Brown for the Marlins... he has the same career WAR as Roy Halladay
@joeymiller27254 жыл бұрын
LoowheezeBreeze he actually has a higher war but the thing about him buying the human growth pills gonna hurt him
@andrewsmall53374 жыл бұрын
Marc, one of your best videos. Love it
@traviswebb75854 жыл бұрын
you forgot Dave Conception ss Reds I know I misspelled his last name.
@daltonfarris4 жыл бұрын
I heard somewhere that ozzie smith while on the veteran committee, keeps concepcion out of the hall of fame because smith believes he got screwed out of the 1979 gold glove by concepcion.
@heartofsteel19724 жыл бұрын
Travis Webb Good Choice Dave Concepcion was a slick fielding shortstop.
@robertsaul2344 жыл бұрын
Vada Pinson from The Reds too.
@julymiller23084 жыл бұрын
@@robertsaul234 I said that! I research baseball and had to recheck. 11 years with the club, over 2500 career hits.
@seanswinton62424 жыл бұрын
Most definitely! I know Pete Rose may have been better overall, but Dave Concepción is Hall Of Fame worthy.
@toddhyatt19124 жыл бұрын
Mark Grace had over 500 doubles and career 303 career hitter. Lead the decade in doubles 2445 hits, 1100 RBI's. 4 gold Gloves, 3 time all star and a world series win. How is he not a hall of famer?
@McChickenProdz4 жыл бұрын
Best player from every team for 2020
@jasonmatteson99094 жыл бұрын
Best position player and best pitcher
@brianmitchell59064 жыл бұрын
Seattle Mariners won't have anyone in 2020 who will be the best. All of them will suck very badly.
@tmlfan77854 жыл бұрын
Brian Mitchell isn’t Dee Gordon still there?
@johntaormina10842 жыл бұрын
Your right about Lolich I believe when he retired he had the most career k's for a lefthanded pitcher since broken and 1968 World Series last game he out pitched Bob Gibson which was unbelievable back then
@itsjakesports4 жыл бұрын
I honestly would have put Steve Rogers or Tim Wallach for the Nats/Expos
@itsjakesports4 жыл бұрын
Yeet Flexer Over one year of Soriano? Yes
@dangates49394 жыл бұрын
You're about right for the Brewers. Few guys with more career HRs (Burnitz, Sexson), but Cecil Cooper was a far more complete player. I grew up with the Brewers teams of the '90s so I'm very familiar with how much talent they didn't ever have. Those Wendy Selig years were effing ROUGH man...
@teddygreene48434 жыл бұрын
What about Maury Wills for the Dodgers?
@lamontbradford46304 жыл бұрын
And Garvey
@sandmanlogan5ran1494 жыл бұрын
Over Garvey? Wills is a worthy pick , but he wouldnt be mine..
@daviyen4 жыл бұрын
Teddy Greene Newk.
@a1674744 жыл бұрын
Fernando Valenzuela that is all
@kennyhalm3124 жыл бұрын
The disrespect to Roger Maris is astounding......
@rhettcochran88244 жыл бұрын
He has a great year in 61 but his overall career was lackluster.
@garycotie69834 жыл бұрын
Rhett Cochran agreed
@JC_23114 жыл бұрын
@@rhettcochran8824 Small correction/addendum. He had a great year in '60 as he won the MVP that year as well.
@josephperkins66254 жыл бұрын
I'm a Yankee fan. But beside 1961 he was a bum
@vinceturner45893 жыл бұрын
The guy had two or three good years.I think it's a joke just because he hits 61 home runs everybody says you shouldbe in the Hall of Fame .you don't get in the Hall of Fame just because you have one fantastic year !
@samc08154 жыл бұрын
7:32 He played 19 seasons with Boston and 1 with Baltimore
@mystermysterio53484 жыл бұрын
Fred Lynn too...All Star
@CArchivist4 жыл бұрын
Bobby Grich should've been the choice for the Angels.
@user-vm9yp3rr5c4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree
@Extinguisher104 жыл бұрын
Love the Bone pick! The only player I MIGHT swap him for would be Jamie Moyer.
@daltonfarris4 жыл бұрын
Jamie Moyer is someone who should be in he was crazy 1986-2013
@jackpearce30964 жыл бұрын
My though was Alvin Davis or John Olerud, no clear answer though I feel like.
@Extinguisher104 жыл бұрын
@@jackpearce3096 Alive Davis is a great pick too. Olerud is tough for me to go with because he spent so few years with the Ms, and those weren't his best (but still good). But yeah as a player Olerud is a great choice too.
@scottcarter66234 жыл бұрын
Impossible to argue with Delgado, but an honorable mention for Dave Stieb.
@freshyyish4 жыл бұрын
for halos, it's grich.
@heartofsteel19724 жыл бұрын
heyfreshy Bob Grich played hard and had quick hands, good fielder and hitter.
@DanielMoore454 жыл бұрын
Grich spent more time in California, but his best stretch was with the Orioles.
@carlosalbertosantiago64044 жыл бұрын
For the Mets, I would have gone with Doc Gooden. As for Seattle: John Olerud, perhaps? He didn't play for them for very long, but he was pretty good.
@loualbino55364 жыл бұрын
Really needed his tall frame in 2000. Ordonez sure as hell forgot that zeil isn't olerud.
@bluescreenfree4 жыл бұрын
Seattle is clearly Ichiro now that he’s no longer playing, but he’s obviously going to go in the hof. Olerud, on the other hand, I’d put on the jays behind Delgado.
@morningstaralan3 жыл бұрын
Seattle: 1-Ichiro 2-Jay Buhner 3-Alvin Davis 4-Olerud 5-Harold Reynolds
@williamsuberalles95583 жыл бұрын
@@morningstaralan Ichiro will be in the hall of fame, he's not eligible for this list, it takes about 4-6 years to get into the hall
@malojohnson64042 жыл бұрын
John Olerud could've been a choice for the Blue Jays as well... Great choice...
@panowa83194 жыл бұрын
For the Yankees, Don Mattingly is long overdue. For the Blue Jays, it Joe Carter.
@elijahjones27633 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing up Albert Belle! Nobody ever talks about him. It annoys me so much that players like Koufax get a pass for having their careers end early by injury but not Albert Belle. If Albert Belle wasn’t forced to retire early I think he could have gone down as one of the greatest hitters of all time (plus he didn’t even do steroids).
@malojohnson64042 жыл бұрын
The media disliked Albert Belle because he wouldn't conform to what their agenda was during his time in Cleveland and Baltimore
@mrmacross2 жыл бұрын
I'm OK with Albert Belle not in the HoF. He was a pretty good hitter, but his WAR totals weren't great because he played during the onset of the steroid era so he couldn't distance himself from the field. I'd rather see Kenny Lofton in the Hall than Belle. But what is absolutely true is that the 1995 AL MVP voting was a joke. There was absolutely no good reason to vote for Mo Vaughn ahead of Albert Belle. Belle was better in about every conceivable way, plus you couldn't even make a team success argument since Cleveland was an incredible 100-44.
@elijahjones27632 жыл бұрын
@@mrmacross that's true. But I still think he should make it cause before injury he had one of the greatest peaks of all time. I think we can both agree though that Johan was absolutely robbed. If AL Cy Young voters weren't stupid in 2005 and gave Johan the Cy Young he deserved, we'd be looking at a player with 3 straight Cy Young's. Pretty hard to deny a guy who 3-peated the Cy Young award from entering in the Hall of Fame, even if his peak wasn't long cause of injury.
@mrmacross2 жыл бұрын
@@elijahjones2763 Oh yeah, Santana was hosed. But it was still the pre-sabermetric era of voting, so Colon's 21 wins stuck out to voters, and the Angels won their division. Should Santana be in the Hall? I think you could make an argument for him. He's kind of like a less-extreme version of Sandy Koufax, but similar in terms of career length and length of peak. Koufax was more dominant, but Santana was the best pitcher in baseball for three straight years. I don't think it's terrible that he didn't get voted in, but it's fair to point out he has more career WAR than Koufax in fewer IP.
@jakobetrheim60564 жыл бұрын
For the Twins, you could argue Tony Oliva
@s.s.20484 жыл бұрын
Sadly, Dwight Evans played his last season for the Orioles. He was one of the best defensive outfielders of his generation (in one of the most difficult right fields in MLB) and during the second half of his career one of the best hitters in the game.
@mystermysterio53484 жыл бұрын
Yes" These are better than average players...they are all All-Stars but sad they were not elected in.
@vincentnardella65164 жыл бұрын
I'm a die hard Yankee fan and Nettles is the by far the most underrated player for the Yankees. Mattingly was better than Nettles thow.
@kennyhalm3124 жыл бұрын
What about that other guy who wore 9 for the yankees? And also got it retired by the Yankees
@GG.Sanchoo4 жыл бұрын
I think the right choice for the Nats was an expo named Jeff Reardon who is their saves leader and was the Major League Baseball saves leader for a time until his record was broken but very underrated
@h8ter4eva94 жыл бұрын
KEITH HERNANDEZ?!
@joeymiller27254 жыл бұрын
True Blue5 uh hell no
@phillyd48744 жыл бұрын
I despise him... lol
@bengoldstein70824 жыл бұрын
keith 100 percent should be in hof. 11 gold gloves, an mvp, world series champion. literally one of the best defensive players ever.
@joeymiller27254 жыл бұрын
Ben Goldstein maybe if he played a different position other then 1st. He don’t have good stats for a typical first basemen since all he did is hit weak singles and a couple doubles. Your acting like 1st base is hard to play.... worlds series means nothing since that’s a team effort and he definitely didn’t win World Series MVP anyway.
@bengoldstein70824 жыл бұрын
@@joeymiller2725 that might've been the worst rebuttal and diminishment of someones accomplishments i've ever read. I genuinely don't even think it's worth debating you.
@Stealthborn4 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of these. However... Cubs-Mark Grace (solid underrated hitter) Angels-Garret Anderson (also considered Bobby Grich) Athletics-Vida Blue (if it wasn't for the drugs and injuries) Rangers-Juan Gonzalez (controversial but the guy did win 2 MVPs. Honorable mention to Rusty Greer) Royals-David Cone (I cheated on this one though Cone did win a Cy Young with this team back in 94') Mets-Dwight Gooden (more a matter of preference here. What a beast back in the 80s!) Indians-Kenny Lofton (should not have dropped off the ballot so soon) Yankees-Allie Reynolds (still mad to this day they chose the bum Joe Gordon over this guy on the VC ballot) Otherwise great choices! Loved the video!
@joeycasciato52024 жыл бұрын
barry bonds should definitely be the representative for the giants
@dirtface59234 жыл бұрын
Dale Murphy, Crime Dog, Cecil Cooper, Pete Rose, Tim Wallach (Expos/Nats), Dwight Evans, Dave Parker, Steve Garvey, Yes good video.
@iamhector244 жыл бұрын
The Marlins best player not in is Gary Sheffield. It’s not close.
@SamWesting4 жыл бұрын
@DaHTrain 24 On paper, Sheff is a slam dunk. Maybe he got snubbed here because of PEDs?
@keithmessenger77874 жыл бұрын
He's still on the ballot so he didnt count
@ThePhl4ever4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the Dick Allen push. He no doubt needs to be voted in by the Veteran's Committee
@tatefitzgibbons86254 жыл бұрын
Mattingly and Maris both options for the Yanks too
@brutusplays47774 жыл бұрын
Tate Fitzgibbons yes finally someone said Mattingly he’s so underrated
@jbryant52537 ай бұрын
I need someone to explain exactly why Dale Murphy, a 2x MVP isn't in the Hall of Fame
@arcadedmc4 жыл бұрын
You should’ve went garret anderson for the angels
@DeltaNadesU4 жыл бұрын
100% agree I was going to comment this.
@danbuckholz92284 жыл бұрын
Bobby Grich
@Harmaxium4 жыл бұрын
I feel like it was a toss up between both Salmon and GA. Possibly even Troy Glauss?
@daltonfarris4 жыл бұрын
@@Harmaxium troy glaus was good, but honestly he should have went with Esmonds for the angels and McGwire for the cardinals
@LaEMars4 жыл бұрын
Bobby Grich is the only correct answer for the angels.
@jacksusanin33434 жыл бұрын
As a Phillies fan, I really hope Dick Allen gets the Golden Days call soon. Obviously I wasn’t around to see him play, but his number were just too good.
@analogboi3 жыл бұрын
He''ll get in now, about 40 years late.
@Ryan-xw2gm4 жыл бұрын
should've of been Brian Giles for SD and Bobby Grich for the Angles tho he should be in the HOF
@TheFriarGamer2084 жыл бұрын
Brian Giles was all right with San Diego but wasn't great
@heartofsteel19724 жыл бұрын
Bob Grich is a hardnose baller All-Star.
@hunterbuescher41074 жыл бұрын
I agree with you mark that Carlos Delgado is a hall of famer in my book
@racingfanz47624 жыл бұрын
Rockies: Todd Helton. Okay it is only a matter of time before he gets in.
@daves28744 жыл бұрын
Great list. Possible good arguments are Lolich in Detroit, Conception in Cinncy since Rose is only out bc of gambling Minoso for the Sox bc Jackson should be a HOFer, Luis giant for the Red Sox, willie Wilson for the Royals. Since in my mind Hodges should be in, Hershiser takes his spot maybe. Regardless, awesome list. Makes you remember the other greats.
@bot499994 жыл бұрын
Bernie Williams for the Yankees
@mattbalfe29834 жыл бұрын
Nettles was damn good though. Probably the greatest defensive 3rd baseman behind Brooksy.
@torrjpct94924 жыл бұрын
Williams, Pettitte, Munson, Guidry, Mattingly, and then Nettles in my opinion. Also Maris.
@SamWesting4 жыл бұрын
If you're going to have Guidry, then you also have to include Mel Stottlemyre.
@mattbalfe29834 жыл бұрын
@@torrjpct9492 Put it this way nettles has Jaws, War...etc of a hofer because of his defense. I agree if you look at his offense alone he's not gonna make it. But he is defense first player, the majority of his value comes from his defense. This narrative is ubiquitous between different defensive stats. Just like Brooks Robinson, we should look at Nettles as a defense first hof 3rd baseman. As for the others I think Pettitte definitely is hof worthy, but the PED issue might hurt him. Also Munson is a worthy of the hof for a catcher particularly when you consider his relatively short career. As for Guidry, Williams, and Matingly, they were really good, but not quite hof.
@Milkman4844 жыл бұрын
@@mattbalfe2983 if you are going to go the Defense route for Nettles, then how do you not do that for Mattingly ... there is a reason the man won 9 Gold Gloves. He was the best 1st baseman in the game during his time.
@alwaysamysteryyes20214 жыл бұрын
Wholeheartedly agree on Murph, Dewey and Cobra. What are they waiting for? As a lifelong Cubs fan, love D. Lee but its gotta be Buckner. He carried the team in the pre-Ryno days and was impossible to strike out. The early 80s Royals had great choices like Willie Wilson, Lee May, Amos Otis, Frank White, Willie Aikens.
@JustSomeDamnCalifornian454 жыл бұрын
Steve Garvey should've been for the dodgers
@matthew51744 жыл бұрын
Dude had 6 seasons of 200+ hits
@themadlad85404 жыл бұрын
Wait Garvey isn't in the hall?
@patrickmichels78884 жыл бұрын
This makes zero sense Steve Garvey was the face of mlb back then and he played in 1300 straight games played a season with no errors. And he had arms like popeye before juice
@donwhiteley32934 жыл бұрын
Garvey should be in the hall . . . but his choice of Hodges was the correct one for the Dodgers. Gil Hodges has been one of, if not the biggest snub of the Hall of Fame for 50+ years. When he retired, he was 6th all time in HR by a right-handed batter and was voted by sportswriters as the best defensive 1B EVER up to that point (The video mentions that he won 3 gold gloves, but that's only because gold gloves weren't awarded until 1957. Hodges' last year as a starter was 1959. Even in his twilight as a player, he won the first 3 gold gloves ever given to a 1B.)
@genedolen91664 жыл бұрын
boiledegg boi Steve Garvey married one of the most beautiful women on the planet. That should be enough.