Best Of: Status Games, Polyamory and the Merits of Meritocracy

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@SpiderMan-od3kr 11 ай бұрын

I think a big part of compassion is simply enjoying people and their multiplicitous variations. You can change the world only a little bit. You can give a homeless person a couple of dollars, but you aren't usually in a position to drastically change their situation. What you can do is not turn away from them is disgust but view them with dignity. You can delight in people's stories and lives without trying to evaluate where the sit on the pecking order or how they will benefit you.

@JasonMomoa999 11 ай бұрын

I do not give homeless people money. Food yes

@kurtwenner1997 11 ай бұрын

I think that Agnes Callard is an unusually wise person of deep understanding who is surprising for her use of plain language. The show is consistently thoughtful.

@christophergiofreda564 11 ай бұрын

She's on the site Radiopaper. Try writing to her sometime. She usually answers. She's really one of a kind.

@gooddaysahead1 11 ай бұрын

She does this topic well. But it is a well worn and oft discussed topic for 2-3 thousand years.

@Ryanrobi 11 ай бұрын

I remember when I was a kid I really hated school and always love to learning on my own and it was a constant struggle with my parents who wanted me to get good grades and go to college but I would say I always knew that won't really mattered wasn't credentials or anything it was how hard you worked and how much value you created for other people and if you had a good attitude it could do very well in life and that turned out to be very true. At times I've made quite a bit more money than my siblings who have Masters degrees and went into the normal career path and followed all the rules and got great grades in school.

@gooddaysahead1 11 ай бұрын

An excellent discussion about the ancient topic of theodicy. Cheers.

@Burtimus02 11 ай бұрын

I am not completely on board with the views that are expressed here, but they have provided some potent fuel for reassessing my current opinions on questions of our relationship to the (hypothetical) meritocracy, status, and relationship to society at large. In all, a very worthwhile and engaging episode.

@danwylie-sears1134 11 ай бұрын

Nobody fails out of meritocracy. Either you're born into the "merit"-owning class, or you're not. If a trait isn't perfectly heritable, by people who are willing to accept it, then it just doesn't get used as a component of "merit".

@gooddaysahead1 11 ай бұрын

Nope. Bad things happen to good people all the time. It's a multi-milleinial discussion about unjustified suffering. It's a discussion that can't be boxed into an economics discussion. Theodicy is primary here, as well as the randomness of the probability you even exist.

@danwylie-sears1134 11 ай бұрын

@@gooddaysahead1 One way that bad things happen to good people is when they're not born into the "merit"-owning class of a meritocracy. Meritocracy has nothing to do with theodicy, or at least no more than all the other versions of "them as has, gets" and "he who has the gold makes the rules" that humanity has afflicted ourselves with.

@gooddaysahead1 11 ай бұрын

@@danwylie-sears1134 You appear not to take seriously they understanding of randomness in life. I suspect you believe that life is ordered and predictable, which is absurd.

@danwylie-sears1134 11 ай бұрын

@@gooddaysahead1 You appear to be unaware of the concept of hyperbole. The "merit" in meritocracy is largely transmitted from generation to generation by the advantages of wealth (but obviously only largely, not absolutely so -- obviously enough that the idea of absolutely perfect transmission is not in the realm of literal possibility, and thus is available for use as a rhetorical device).

@hadiza1 11 ай бұрын

💜💜💜

@Edo9River 11 ай бұрын

This is almost too much.😂 I was caught up. In someone’s story and my own desire for them to be something else and to value something they weren’t ready to become…I gave away a Huge portion of my savings..over the period of 2 years. ( unfortunately it wasn’t the end of the process) This wrecked many friendship’s and my marriage. So because of the length of time… many of these processes discussed here, were thought. about and avoided or rejected, or modified within the context of my religious beliefs. 😮

@christophergiofreda564 11 ай бұрын

Do you know Pedro de la Barca's "Life is a Dream?" It speaks to this. You'll love the play. It will become apparent why I mention it. Cheers.

@Edo9River 11 ай бұрын

It has benefited me greatly to struggle with just the opening scene of Life is but a Dream by Calderon de La Barca. I haven’t worked so hard over a text in a long time. As I say, I’ve only read the first scene. It is fortunate that this play is in the public domain, as in could leap from your suggestion in a moment of escape from my study of Japanese vocabulary. I have to stop now and switch to yet another task . I’ll get back to this in a couple of days. It took some biographical reading to be motivated to make the decision to dig into the play. However the description is very powerful once one’s patient enough to become absorbed by the scene, and the themes the author has previously established. For a newcomer who isn’t familiar with anything by Calderon. It was very helpful for MS BING to provide it. Otherwise I wouldn’t have persevered.

@christophergiofreda564 11 ай бұрын

@@Edo9River, your studies sound cool. That's good to hear you like the play! I can't wait to find out what you think at the end.

@Edo9River 11 ай бұрын

I managed the second scene of Act 1. the more I read the more I admire this guy…but I don’t know anyone close to me among family or friends who would share my thoughts about the rich texture of every line as a metaphor, either building on the previous one or starting a closely related new one. And such an interesting twist which the second scene reveals! Also to marvel again at “ the big issues” which he was referring to in the conversation. This is the kind of standard one should have when yearning for dialogue development which is so lacking in the eternal rise of the action thriller……However, having said this, there’s no way to hell that I could actually appreciate it in a spoken form. I would be dead in the water if introduced stone cold after the first few lines…..well this is like the first time I was exposed to Shakespeare, probably.

@christophergiofreda564 11 ай бұрын

@@Edo9River, there's a saner version online somewhere (staged by a college company at UMBC IIRC). What I love about the play is the mercy of the king. One writes somebody off after their first missteps and thinks they've found the "truth" of another person's character. But what if they tried one more time? What would they learn from forgiveness? ;) Given your initial post, the play seemed like the ticket. Glad it's growing on you!

@JasonMomoa999 11 ай бұрын

Hundreds of people see me as a professional who is valuble to them in terms of health and pain

@Shapeguydude 11 ай бұрын

Bizarre that instead of redeeming and refining some aspect of your son's instinct about communal ownership of the shovel, you tried to teach him that it was actually just his.

@JasonMomoa999 11 ай бұрын

As a model Id rather be doing collaborating with fashion lingerie swimsuit photographers.