Best Off-Road 4WD? Toyota 4Runner vs. Tundra vs. Lexus LX 600

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@jediguy634
@jediguy634 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s all appreciate Nick, who had to run around this course 3 times to get us those great camera angles.
@robervin9107
@robervin9107 2 жыл бұрын
He’s so underrated
@zyzzuschrist3410
@zyzzuschrist3410 2 жыл бұрын
It’s his job. He’s getting paid for it
@robervin9107
@robervin9107 2 жыл бұрын
@@zyzzuschrist3410 for the work underpaid but hanging with Ryan priceless
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 2 жыл бұрын
@@robervin9107 🤣
@ltauzzy4151
@ltauzzy4151 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it looks fun id do it multiple times
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan, Your focused comparison of these three Toyota 4WD systems as found on the 4Runner, Tundra and LX has demonstrated conclusively that the Toyota 4X4 we really want is the Prado 😂 I hope some day you get to drive a genuine Land Cruiser with locking rear, center and front differentials. With those features you won't need to waste time searching for the MTS buttons 🤩
@brunoterlingen2203
@brunoterlingen2203 2 жыл бұрын
Just get an XJ Jeep, over 20 years old and it will do all of the shown course blindfolded: nothing really "new" apart from the gadgets.
@MrCherrygrovedude
@MrCherrygrovedude 2 жыл бұрын
@@brunoterlingen2203 i've had 2 XJs, it's not even close to being as capable as a 4runner or landcruiser.
@BelchevKalin
@BelchevKalin 2 жыл бұрын
150 prado with rear locking diff or the new LC 300 GR :)
@KiyaWarrior
@KiyaWarrior Жыл бұрын
80 series has all of that and was sold in the US, no clue why they got rid of it.
@rguil15
@rguil15 Жыл бұрын
@@KiyaWarrior Driving one over 70mph on the interstate for any length of time is why.
@Offshore1977
@Offshore1977 2 жыл бұрын
4Runner for the win. Cant stand the constant beeping the new drivetrains give you when off road. Plus with manual transfer case your know for sure it’s in 4wd
@kcspeed9980
@kcspeed9980 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the quick “on the fly” change in and out of 4wd. We own a trd off-road and the manual transfer case is awsome!
@markc9949
@markc9949 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your long form content like this. I live in PA and don't really off-road, but I am looking for a big bulky "Dad car" since my wife and I are expecting a second. I also do a bit of traveling into gun ranges/camping/etc, so it'd be nice. I'm still gonna hold off and see what the next generation 4Runner looks like.
@davidr6865
@davidr6865 2 жыл бұрын
Just get the current gen. The new ones will be another $5-$10k more and most likely will have the turbo 4
@markc9949
@markc9949 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidr6865 I understand your perspective. I think that may be the route I go. I kinda want to wait and see. I like the simplicity of the current gen, but if its only a few k more for a considerable upgrade, that might be worth it. I just wish the current gen got a little better mpg.
@davidr6865
@davidr6865 2 жыл бұрын
@@markc9949 trust me the 5th gen will be the last true reliable 4Runner. Newer is not always better. I had a 2015 tacoma, traded for a 2022 tacoma because I got what I paid back in 2015 for my trade in value. I ended up getting rid of it after a year. I hated the new trans and engine. The 3.5 v6 was anemic and trans tuning was super sloppy. The 4.0 is a tank with the 5spd auto. Love my 22 4Runner, it feels like it’s built out a solid block of steel. Im never getting rid of it. It like a baby land cruiser
@jraddd3477
@jraddd3477 2 жыл бұрын
80 series landcruiser is king lol
@alanadona9351
@alanadona9351 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the videos you’re making. I haven’t seen a video with the 4Runner limited with full time 4wd compared to Lexus GX and land cruiser system. Are they the same? Maybe a future video? Thanks👍
@runnerxa
@runnerxa 2 жыл бұрын
The previous gen Lexus GX470, 4th gen 4Runner V8 full time 4WD, and 4th gen 4Runner V6 with 4WD selector to 4H pretty much function the same with an improved ATRAC over the 100 series LC/LX. The 120 series LC Prado platform have the torsen center differential whereas the 100 series LC platform has an open center differential. ATRAC is an iteration older on the 100 series. The manual FJ Cruiser 4WD is also full time 4WD and all FJ Cruiser 4WD's ATRAC is an improved version of the one on the 4th gen 4Runner/GX470. The 150 series LC Prado platform, aka the 5th gen 4Runner and GX460 perform similar off road as well. The Limited trim 5th gen 4Runner get the full time 4WD with torsen center differential like the GX460, except the GX460 can be optioned with MTS and crawl control. 5th gen 4Runner Limited doesn't get the off-road goodies available in the GX460 thus forcing buyer to get the 4Runner TRD Offroad/TRD Pro. ATRAC is a newer iteration on the 5th gen 4Runner and GX460 over the 120 series platform. North American LC 200/LX570 all came with torsen center differential whereas previous 100 series LC had an open center differential similar to a 90 series LC Prado/3rd gen 4Runner. The torsen center differential allow 60% power to rear and 40% power to front normally. If slip is detected, % power shifts away from the normal 60% rear/40% front ratio. Locking the center differential will lock the ratio to 50% front and 50% rear. Selectable factory lockers (rear and/or front) are available in oversea models, but not an option for US models. Oversea LC300/LX600 can be optioned with selectable front, center, and rear lockers. Maybe Toyota suspect most hardcore 4WD buyers will use aftermarket lockers from ARB or Harrop in the North American market. We are definitely not their biggest market for Land Cruisers.
@Kiss__Kiss
@Kiss__Kiss 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you were able to attend, Ryan/Nick. As it showcases these systems, without having to go to a dealership. And, NOT only drive them back to back, but also having to find some sort of OR Course where the salesman/dealership won't mind.
@waleedahmed1422
@waleedahmed1422 2 жыл бұрын
@@تييحي؟
@WW-wf8tu
@WW-wf8tu 2 жыл бұрын
I am glad you gave a personal choice. Often it seems as if certain journalist channels(whom will go unmentioned here)are too afraid to be bias. I know you like the LX600 best, and maybe if I were to be daily driving on the highway on a regular basis, I would agree. However, the strength of the 4R TRD is where I lean towards because of the approach/departure angle. It is a shame that the front facing camera is just now an option. But as bad as you say it is, I am not going to trade up my 2018 just for that. An after market system would be cheaper and I still get all the great functionalities that have not changed since the 5th Gen. came out.
@chrispnw2547
@chrispnw2547 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since Lexus has gotten a version of a Toyota vehicle, the company feels obligated to give the more advanced systems to the Lexus and require the customer to pay a lot more. You can see from the comments, many people simply want a 4-Runner sized vehicle option with the front, center, and rear locking differentials with KDSS and not be force to buy many option packages to get the right 'bones'. This should not cost more than $55k in 2022 and not require an $80K+ Lexus to get this level of functionality.
@caifan444
@caifan444 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video very informative 👏 I geek out at this sorta info thank you now I just have gained more knowledge keep it up Ryan and crew
@shahramkhayam4875
@shahramkhayam4875 2 жыл бұрын
I was unsure which one is the best. You made it cleared for me. Thanks a lot for the video.
@rjgmedia6298
@rjgmedia6298 2 жыл бұрын
All that capability in the LX, and 99.9% of them will never even leave pavement.
@rangerover06sc
@rangerover06sc 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how many car experts get this wrong. But an locked diff does not send the same amount of power to both sides it just locks wheel speed. Power is based on torque and torque is calculated based on friction or traction. So if both wheels are locked the wheel with the most traction produces more power Ironically its an open diff that will always split torque 50/50%. The reason only one wheel spins is because only enough torque necessary to spin the wheel to redline is sent to both wheels and divided evenly. And thats not enough torque to turn the other wheel. Engineering explained has many videos about this
@crusherman96
@crusherman96 2 жыл бұрын
It is an electronic locking differential not a mechanical one so it is not actually locking them together.
@rangerover06sc
@rangerover06sc 2 жыл бұрын
@@crusherman96 Your thinking of E-Diffs or Electronic limited slip/locking diffs. Which uses electronically controlled clutch packs on a mechanical differential to limit wheel slip. This uses an electronically controlled differential lock, although they are both electronically controlled they are different. This uses electronics to activate the mechanical differential lock
@seymorefact4333
@seymorefact4333 2 жыл бұрын
🇺🇸 I'll take the 4runner. Perfect size and been around since earth was created.
@dieseldrax
@dieseldrax 2 жыл бұрын
18:25 I'm sure you know this, but it doesn't matter if it's part-time or full-time 4WD, if they're dual speed (high and low range) then it has a transfer case. The LX600 has a dual speed transfer case with a lockable Torsen center differential.
@michaeldbhawker3556
@michaeldbhawker3556 2 жыл бұрын
It matters in many ways if its full time 4wd. Running only rear wheel has advantages.
@AA-vr8ez
@AA-vr8ez 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldbhawker3556 full time 4WD also has advantages, and in my opinion (and the vehicle manufacturers) full time is better than part time. G-Class, Land Cruiser, LX have full time 4WD, the marquee vehicles from each respective brand.
@KTMcaptain
@KTMcaptain 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@KTMcaptain
@KTMcaptain 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldbhawker3556 you missed the point. The video says only part time have transfercase but so does this. It’s just a full time transfer case.
@lordofreason549
@lordofreason549 2 жыл бұрын
@@AA-vr8ez generally speaking, part time 4x4 does better off road than full time.
@JZMartinez
@JZMartinez 2 жыл бұрын
2006 LX470 100 series. 2nd owner in June 2020 w/189K mi. Put on 51K mi since. Some normal repla ement items, oil, tires etc amd it still drives at 80-85% like new. Made the mistake of telling the wife it's nearly bullet proof. Won't be able to kill it to buy the 200 or 300 series LX. If that V6 holds up, I would want the LX600 and hope some does a front bumper. 🙃
@swimmer8585
@swimmer8585 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the 4runner because its an old proven reliable dinosaur. Its still made the same way it was back in toyota's golden era, and I think people are still buying it in record numbers because of that
@shakespearmallya7845
@shakespearmallya7845 2 жыл бұрын
4runner suits well
@terrynichol577
@terrynichol577 2 жыл бұрын
Love my 18 4runner off-road premium....4runner all day
@Bad_Rattle
@Bad_Rattle 2 жыл бұрын
I’d choose my 22’ GX460 again every time. I swapped out the stock wheels and tires for a nice set of wheels and BFG’s. I love this thing, long live the V8!
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD 2 жыл бұрын
oh yes indeed!
@skoolynugenator1802
@skoolynugenator1802 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad you need premium fuel.
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD 2 жыл бұрын
@@skoolynugenator1802 😢
@Bad_Rattle
@Bad_Rattle 2 жыл бұрын
@@skoolynugenator1802 Been using premium in all my cars for years. Nothing new
@skoolynugenator1802
@skoolynugenator1802 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bad_Rattle it’s an added cost I don’t want.
@TM15R
@TM15R 2 жыл бұрын
If I spent $80,000.00+ on a vehicle, the only way it would go off road would be if I missed a turn.....
@idris1446
@idris1446 2 жыл бұрын
I will take 4runner basic for durability & liability. Hybrid not so much for off road for long term used.
@Tetsujin-28
@Tetsujin-28 2 жыл бұрын
You did a great job simplifying the differences between the systems and their use. Lexus LX 600: Besides the hideous looks the complete failure of the dash was wild. It looks like they glued a Switch Lite to the top.
@Treetopflyer777
@Treetopflyer777 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on all the modes in the 4runner- what each does and more specifically, what situations to use each one? I just got a 4runner and it’s all head exploding 🤯
@user-hf8ie8mf3n
@user-hf8ie8mf3n Жыл бұрын
I wish we could find the off road course in northern Washington where they’ve done a few vids like this. Great stuff 👍🤪🇨🇦
@shakespearmallya7845
@shakespearmallya7845 2 жыл бұрын
4runner suits best
@HyperXism
@HyperXism 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@Cortezuma
@Cortezuma 2 жыл бұрын
Better to get the 5th Gen 4Runner while you can. Made in Japan, proven reliability, significantly less maintenance required. Going into the upcoming zombie apocalypse, it’s the easy choice.
@davidr6865
@davidr6865 2 жыл бұрын
I love my 2022. It’s a tank
@blackwatch7151
@blackwatch7151 2 жыл бұрын
It's coming....Z
@Feintgames
@Feintgames 2 жыл бұрын
That Lexus looks exactly like Kylo Ren's mask. The system you need is the one from the Lexus but with the Tundra's hybrid system to smooth out the wheel spin. Can you imagine a 4r with that? And the AHC as an option?
@fqititr2312
@fqititr2312 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for great overview of new off-road systems in toyota's SUVs
@magniarot
@magniarot 2 жыл бұрын
4runner all day, true offroaders could care less about having the latest tech garbage.
@TrailTape
@TrailTape 2 жыл бұрын
Manual levers and ceiling-mounted knobs >>> console-mounted push buttons. That's just facts. No comments about the tire type or wheel size of the Lexus LX?
@kr9181
@kr9181 2 жыл бұрын
New land cruiser have an option 3 diff locks. We’d like to see that also. But not available in US.
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD 2 жыл бұрын
GX460 is always the answer. Short Wheelbase Landcruiser... literally ❤️
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 2 жыл бұрын
With its even shorter wheelbase, the 2 door Prado is the real answer. 😁
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD 2 жыл бұрын
@@rightlanehog3151 that would be nice 😃
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 2 жыл бұрын
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I am anxiously waiting to see whether the 2 door will continue to exist when the new Prado makes it debut .
@jimettamarna417
@jimettamarna417 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm…. All-wheel drive is why I’m on my 3rd 5th Gen 4Runner Limited. Just wish I could have KDSS and front/rear lockers. I’d strongly consider the GX (V8 and KDSS) but I don’t like the grille and would greatly miss the roll-down rear window…
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a front locker is on the cards for the next generation.
@alexcanoa26
@alexcanoa26 2 жыл бұрын
TRD PRO REVIEW ... GOOD JOB !
@charlesanim-mensah359
@charlesanim-mensah359 2 жыл бұрын
I like simplicity of the interior of the 4 runner
@warweaponx6629
@warweaponx6629 2 жыл бұрын
Wish they’d add a factory front locker to the 4Runner.
@tx4pro
@tx4pro 2 жыл бұрын
Hey. At 2:56 at I noticed your center console has lot more information on it. Does it only show those data when you are in 4L? I have the extact vehicle 10 months old and never show that screen.
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 2 жыл бұрын
I do believe you have to be in 4L to get the trail camera screen.
@adrianr514
@adrianr514 2 жыл бұрын
I am currently in the market stuck between a TRD Limited Tundra or RAM Rebel and noticed that the Rebel is one of the big off road names you have not reviewed. Is there a reason behind that?
@ESPcrb
@ESPcrb 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you get rid of the 2021 4runner TRD off-road?
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 2 жыл бұрын
Time marches on.
@matthewputnam7486
@matthewputnam7486 2 жыл бұрын
I want to know as well! I was so bummed when he sold the 4Runner. It was going to be the benchmark vehicle for offroad tests. Now he's got these crap Fords. Still the best car channel on KZbin, so I'll watch but I miss the 4Runner
@jraddd3477
@jraddd3477 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I think I'll keep my thousand dollar lx450, cheap to repair and work on myself and not crazy parts and computers everywhere, plus don't feel bad about scratching it up as if it was 80k lol
@jalilburdeen8698
@jalilburdeen8698 2 жыл бұрын
The 300 series platform is the most well built and offroad capable of the bunch. It just gets nerfed here with its LEXUS adornments. Give the aftermarket some time and we'll be seeing some stuff to actually let you wheel it, just like the 300 in Oz.
@mikeyc7072
@mikeyc7072 Жыл бұрын
So, the LX600 is preferred due to it Full-time 4WD system. Same system as the GX460!! LX600 has the advantage with ground clearance - but - same 4WD system as GX460.
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 2 жыл бұрын
Put 18 inch rims on the LX600 with 285/65r18 Toyo AT3 and try again. :-)
@TaylorHuston
@TaylorHuston Жыл бұрын
How do you think the Maverick Tremor would handle a course like this?
@carlnilssonyoung8961
@carlnilssonyoung8961 2 жыл бұрын
The land cruiser is very durable n functional. A Dakar Rally Racer capability, the UN expeditions vehicles, n the often used in the war zone. The Lexus version is a luxury version to counter Land Rover n Mercedes G.
@Spike.SpiegeI
@Spike.SpiegeI 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2022 ORP but it doesn't have the 360 camera , really wish that was standard on ORP and pro models
@robervin9107
@robervin9107 2 жыл бұрын
Love you nick and Ryan.
@noobwow2009
@noobwow2009 2 жыл бұрын
Which one has the best mpg?
@Jose_hernandez970
@Jose_hernandez970 2 жыл бұрын
The one that’s parked.
@IBtrollinyoufool
@IBtrollinyoufool 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if lots of people know that the 4Runner Limited is full-time 4WD. Bought it for that. I live in WA State.
@TheWinwin4all
@TheWinwin4all 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see 2024 GX
@rangerover06sc
@rangerover06sc 2 жыл бұрын
Also it's not not an auto diff, it's not even that technologically advanced. It's just a mechanical torsen limited-slip differential. The kind of thing that's been around for decades. So it probably doesn't even cost as much as you think
@loukasantoniou8054
@loukasantoniou8054 2 жыл бұрын
rear diff lock does not give equal power to each wheel, the opposite, same speed but almost all the torque to the wheel with most traction, so more power to that wheel. also, center diff lock, mean the exact opposite of 50-50torque split. Thats what an open diff does.
@ruggedland
@ruggedland Жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan. The rumor is Toyota will bring Land Cruiser Prado to US in 2024. That means Lexus LX like AWD system in a much cheaper package. Sounds like the best choice for a everyday off-roader. Don’t you agree?
@Doc1855
@Doc1855 2 жыл бұрын
The 4Runner works for me. It’s a proven power train and off road prowess.
@davedavid0
@davedavid0 2 жыл бұрын
That 5 speed has got to go
@crusherman96
@crusherman96 2 жыл бұрын
And the LX and Tundra aren't proven? Lol they're on the Land Cruiser platform. If anything their credibility is higher than the 4Runner.
@davedavid0
@davedavid0 2 жыл бұрын
@@crusherman96 took a new tundra with the 3.4L turbos no hybrid out for a test drive. The turbo lag is extreme. I own a 5.7. I like it better
@Doc1855
@Doc1855 2 жыл бұрын
@@crusherman96 Turbo’s won’t last as long as a naturally aspirated engine. And I refuse to pay the kind of money for an LX only bc at the end of the day it’s still a Toyota. Don’t get me wrong, my mother is on her 2nd Lexus and at 81 years old she deserves it
@Doc1855
@Doc1855 2 жыл бұрын
@@davedavid0 I agree with that. When Toyota changes the 4Runner, I’m sure they’ll redo the entire vehicle
@willienillie6337
@willienillie6337 2 жыл бұрын
can you do all that with just ATrac?
@ericgosselin1947
@ericgosselin1947 2 жыл бұрын
The 4Runner limited have a similar full time 4wd for a lot cheaper than the lexus. Wish they will keep it it the next gen.
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f 2 жыл бұрын
The Lexus center diff is Torsen, no? Why do you not call it this?
@PatrickRich
@PatrickRich 2 жыл бұрын
What happened at @15:48. Its clear that something happened with the suspension where there was suddenly much more articulation and it looked hydraulic. Did the AHC actually do something automatically for more flex?
@Kiss__Kiss
@Kiss__Kiss 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, It looked like, the ACH shifted the fluid/pressure in order to get the tires to regain more traction/maintain more grip on the ground. Almost like reaching for something and extending your arm to be able to finally reach it.
@JattAnmoli
@JattAnmoli 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it stopped giving power to that lifted wheel and transferred all power to the two that had.
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 2 жыл бұрын
The next 4Runner/Tacoma might have a 2.7 or 3l turbo engine with hybrid system coupled to it I guess!!!
@zackdemundo
@zackdemundo 2 жыл бұрын
Very instructional as always. Can’t wait for the next gen 4Runner. An anticipated hybrid drive will be a game changer. Let’s hope they adopt a commensurate transmission.
@edtheguy487
@edtheguy487 2 жыл бұрын
I REALLY WISH YOU DID AN OFF ROAD TEST WITH THE 2022 MITSUBISHI OUTLANDER
@BillyBobTup
@BillyBobTup Жыл бұрын
No KDSS on the 4Runner?
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
Not available on TRD PRO.
@RobustArid379
@RobustArid379 2 жыл бұрын
LX600 doesn't have to beef up tires. it's too nice to drive in the dirt. it's like a princess wearing a dress by a man. It is the most executive SUBMarine dirt rider on earth.
@alexandervolkov7053
@alexandervolkov7053 2 жыл бұрын
Райан спасибо за видео Добра)
@mrketo7077
@mrketo7077 2 жыл бұрын
Пожалуйста мой дрюг 🤡
@bluesky-ud9wg
@bluesky-ud9wg 2 жыл бұрын
7:35, you're wrong, it shifted power to other wheels and you Decided to press the brakes which basically disables it......
2 жыл бұрын
Ryan - please add few seconds silence at the beginning.. you are talking right away from start.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad Toyota jumped on the undersized turbo engine band wagon. They lost any further sales from me for new Tundras...guess I'll be going with a Nissan Titan.
@Rainy_Day12234
@Rainy_Day12234 2 жыл бұрын
The life expectancy of the v6 duel turbo engine is going to be much less than the V8s
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rainy_Day12234 It certainly will be, and people don't get it...but most people today out buying new stuff don't keep stuff long enough to know or care.
@ThirdBrainLives
@ThirdBrainLives 2 жыл бұрын
Nissan is discontinuing the Titan for a reason.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThirdBrainLives LOL.
@DallasRSnider
@DallasRSnider 2 жыл бұрын
Will Toyota fix the Tacoma trans. for 2023?
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 2 жыл бұрын
🤷🏻‍♂️
@KTMcaptain
@KTMcaptain 2 жыл бұрын
How does a locker send equal power? If you have poor traction on one wheel you cannot send more torque to it than the traction can hold. . Locker bias torque and have equal RPM. Since power is torque * RPM that means they bias power. . Open diffs leverage the opposite wheel thus no wheel can receive more torque. ie equal torque or lift a wheel and neither get any torque. But RPM isn’t constant so they don’t have equal power as well.
@kelvinwebster521
@kelvinwebster521 2 жыл бұрын
The trd off road would have been more comparable with kdss this didnt truly showcase any difference in 4wd the pro struggled because it didnt have kdss and the flex necessary to keep the tires on the ground the pro is for high speed mogul sand running off road is for rocks and slow mo stuff
@michaeldbhawker3556
@michaeldbhawker3556 2 жыл бұрын
The TRD Pro is not the best 4R for true off road for the reason you pointed out. For less money than the Pro you can upgrade the off-road and have a far superior machine for everything
@PatrickRich
@PatrickRich 2 жыл бұрын
@18:05 I hate nick pitts, but the Lexus also has a transfer case. it just has a center differential in the transfer case.
@jameskocks4734
@jameskocks4734 Жыл бұрын
im looking to buy an old GX 470 and fix it up.
@FakedStick
@FakedStick 2 жыл бұрын
it would be nice if you have GX in this game.
@GeraldNzeribe
@GeraldNzeribe 2 жыл бұрын
I love Toyota!!
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota... Legendary.
@blackwatch7151
@blackwatch7151 2 жыл бұрын
4Runner will outlast the other two. Toyota is about to kill its reliability reputation when the 4Runner changes.
@michaeldbhawker3556
@michaeldbhawker3556 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why im waiting to even consider a new model 4runner for at least 3 years after it debuts.
@dand2334
@dand2334 2 жыл бұрын
The Lexus is really good, but it is so Fing ugly. Really wish Toyota would just bring a Toyota badged short wheelbase land cruiser back to the states preferably a two row unit.
@Mohsrz
@Mohsrz 2 жыл бұрын
If only the next gen 4Runner gets hybrid powertrain from Tundra and KDSS suspension from LX..
@ptaniful
@ptaniful 2 жыл бұрын
You can get a current 4runner with KDSS in TRD off Road trim
@jeffreysmith4304
@jeffreysmith4304 2 жыл бұрын
"Four Wheel Drive All of the Time is really the Best" Which begs the Question why Toyota Removed it from the New Sequoia Since most folks drive more on dry (or wet) pavement rather than off road
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 2 жыл бұрын
Cost most likely.
@jeffreysmith4304
@jeffreysmith4304 2 жыл бұрын
@@drivingsports The "Bean Counters" Win Again
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreysmith4304 Toyota's Chief Truck Engineer has stated in several interviews that there would have been no new Sequoia is drivetrains were not shared with the Tundra.
@jeffreysmith4304
@jeffreysmith4304 2 жыл бұрын
@@rightlanehog3151 Understood But my own (Totally Useless) Opinion is that Mom & Pop usual Large SUV buyer will rarely take the Sequoia off road But ALL of them will drive on Slippery road surfaces (Ice, snow, even rain) where Full time 4WD really can make a Difference
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreysmith4304 I wish the new Sequoia had retained the independent rear suspension, Torsen Center Differential, spacious third row and roll down rear window that made the last one so special. Time will tell if the compromises (and advancements) found in the new Sequoia will make it a success.
@Bill-lr4kp
@Bill-lr4kp 2 жыл бұрын
4runners need to be updated.
@wesammansour1486
@wesammansour1486 2 жыл бұрын
Wish you guys had the Mighty Nissan Patrol!
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 2 жыл бұрын
Likewise
@mohamadkurdi1820
@mohamadkurdi1820 2 жыл бұрын
Make avedio abaot ford f 150 raptor vs toyota tacoma
@Fadic4
@Fadic4 2 жыл бұрын
The camera quality in my 2022 4Runner is worst than that of my 2016 base model Civic LX.
@Moistnmeaty90
@Moistnmeaty90 2 жыл бұрын
That’s one of the reasons I love it so much. Basic. Capable. Reliable.
@Eugene737
@Eugene737 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, which pixels is the boulder? lol
@Fadic4
@Fadic4 2 жыл бұрын
@@Moistnmeaty90 That's the main reason I got one, but charging $800 for a system that is only useful in very few lighting conditions is an absolute joke. There are times where I can't even see where the outline of the car is in the 360 view camera, I can't see what is going on next to the car. I wouldn't have minded paying $1200 or more if the system was actually useful. They were better off charging $800 for a higher quality front camera and rear camera without the side view cameras, instead they decided to make all the cameras potato quality. This was about cost cutting, not reliability.
@kerplunk38880
@kerplunk38880 Жыл бұрын
I think what you meant to say, but Toyota wouldn't let you say it, is the ancient 4Runner is still the most capable but you need to know how to use the modes.
@RoguePlanetStudio
@RoguePlanetStudio 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a Lumix with a fold out screen or an attached mini screen???
@mikes.8305
@mikes.8305 2 жыл бұрын
If there is no Jeep or land rover does this even count? Jeeps are so good off-road that the on road experience is sacrificed. Land Rover almost rivals Jeep off road but may not be reliable enough to make it to the dirt lol. But both off road way better than Toyotas, not that Toyotas are bad by any other measure.
@supersymun
@supersymun 2 жыл бұрын
I’d have been in 4hi the whole time
@arinmirzayan3949
@arinmirzayan3949 2 жыл бұрын
No nee d locker use A-Track should work fine
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD 2 жыл бұрын
ATRAC is awesome!
@harrisonmcdowall2794
@harrisonmcdowall2794 2 жыл бұрын
The 4Runner has A-Trac. Would been interesting to see that used before the rear locker.
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 2 жыл бұрын
MTS is a fine-tuned version of ATRAC.
@michaeldbhawker3556
@michaeldbhawker3556 2 жыл бұрын
@@drivingsports It should still be used before the locker.
@HyperXism
@HyperXism 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldbhawker3556 Watch the video again. He used it and the 4runner couldn't make it up the rock climb. He had to lock the rear wheel.
@AA-mk4pu
@AA-mk4pu 2 жыл бұрын
4Runner is a better vehicle and will last 5x longer. No brainer…
@Olph1
@Olph1 2 жыл бұрын
The LX needs better tires.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c 2 жыл бұрын
Its a street queen, so street tires are to be expected on them.
@Olph1
@Olph1 2 жыл бұрын
@@wildbill23c understood but it’s a true off-roader and can tackle all conditions with the proper tires.
@iyot1020
@iyot1020 2 жыл бұрын
lx the most capable but least utilized
@woofman4796
@woofman4796 2 жыл бұрын
i prefer full time 4wd
@honda116969
@honda116969 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely pathetic that they're putting the hybrid systems in these new vehicles because in 10 years the vehicle is literally trashed unless you can afford the $10,000 repair
@honda116969
@honda116969 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the Tacoma TRD 4x4 off-road would do vs the 4-runner on that course 🤷🏻... It's cool to see the best models & what they're capable of but 90% of people are not going to get those fully loaded pro models they're hardly available & the cost is a little over the top generally 🤦🏻
@gregkerchner3175
@gregkerchner3175 2 жыл бұрын
Did you sell your 4runner?
@Feintgames
@Feintgames 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he did. He is driving a Ford Ranger now as a test vehicle.
@jamesp6283
@jamesp6283 2 жыл бұрын
@@Feintgames damn what a shame
@WW-wf8tu
@WW-wf8tu 2 жыл бұрын
Old news.
@keithheleno9153
@keithheleno9153 Жыл бұрын
It is sad that you literally reach for MTS immediately in every one of your 4Runner review videos...
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
Because in every video we try to test all the features. And, yes, it's a feature.
@ajfern01
@ajfern01 2 жыл бұрын
He said no Sequoia. Yet there is a Sequoia @9:06
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 2 жыл бұрын
We did not have the Sequoia on the same day of this exact test. We had the Sequoia the next day, which was our day to film the review and the off-road test separate from this one. Toyota did not make one available for us to use in this specific video.
@JRs-guitars
@JRs-guitars 2 жыл бұрын
All really nice vehicles but no one is going to spend $60-80k and risk scratching up the vehicles off road. Lol. Better off buying a few years older pre-owned to use off road.
@wheelaways
@wheelaways 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta get an FJ cruiser in the mix!
@imranabbasi7871
@imranabbasi7871 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota 4runner have the best off road
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