Best Overall Keyboard? Modded Wooting 80HE

[@johncarlosalangsang6511]

I am actually 'out' currently into this hobby since I built my Monsgeek M1 back in 2023. But I always watched your videos because you create great sounding keyboards with a scientific twist. Sometimes you create not just a review but also an analysis on a keyboard. What a passionate man.

[@Keybored]

Thank you so much! Sad to hear that you're out of the hobby!

[@johncarlosalangsang6511]

@@Keybored I settled (for now atleast)

[@esra_erimez]

I managed to claw my way out of the rabbit hole, but love your videos.

[@Keybored]

Haha congratulations! That's a very difficult thing to do! But thanks for your continued support!

[@Aerobrake]

This keyboard basically made me able to claw my way out of the rabbithole since it's basically my endgame! I got gateron jade maxes in a black zinc case with black doubleshot shinethrough pbt keycaps. Still love watching these vids a lot 👍

[@Extra_ChrisB]

"The inflection point of HE keyboards is here." I 100% agree with this take. This board makes me very excited to see future releases that iterate from here. Loving the content and I hope you settle-in nicely to the new studio!

[@Keybored]

Thank you so much Chris! Hope I can get setup and running 100% soon

[@LettersEF]

WOW! Best 80HE I've heard by far, sounds so clean with Geon Raws!

[@sushislimee]

Love the camera angles. U always deliver such good quality videos

[@hxpers]

if they kept to a standard TKL layout I would have 100% joined in on the early buy.

[@R3APER-350xx]

tbf theyve got a full size, a 60%, and a 80%, steel series makes a traditional tkl layout with HE switches for the main board and mech switches for num function and arrows albeit i had a bunch of issues with it over time, couldnt be happier after switching to wooting, they just work more consistently than the competition that keeps copying what they innovated which is fair i guess to an extent even though HE boards arent really all that new anymore

[@namo2403]

I had the same sentiment with you till my keyboard decided to die I just got the 80he with a separate keypad

[@justaverage8158]

I'm addicted now. I took my 60 module out and got it a new case, switches and keycaps... I now just bought the 80 module

[@S7ORM3X]

Went for the M1W HE and put good stabs with force break and got a really thocky sound hope to see in the future that all magnetic switches can be used in any HE board

[@nicetugboat]

The Geon Raws are so nice! I thought the Jades were a big improvement in my Tofu60 mounted 60HE, but these were on another level again. The keyboard is genuinely nice to type on now

[@shdoborn]

which weight did u end up going with?

[@nicetugboat]

I went with 50g, feels pretty much spot on for my tastes

[@Shyvorix]

I'm still torn between Jade Gaming switches and the Geon Raws, cause I want my rgb still lol...

[@nicetugboat]

@@Shyvorix I mean RGB works completely fine with both switches, the Raws even have a diffuser...

[@Technzo]

Problem with open bottom switches, like Geons and KS-37b is they lose sound quality overtime

[@NaoKeysVT]

Whoa, you got the keyboard sounding really good. It still has a bit of that sound that HE switches just... have, but its wayy better than most of what I've heard before. Hoping Wooting updates their 60% cause tray mount feels pretty dated at this point.

[@Shyvorix]

I kinda wonder where in the switch is the culprit. Maybe just the lack of a leaf spring makes it more naturally loose. Only problem is HE requires high precision and so any kind of friction is a net negative so....have to somehow tighten the tolerances more and more without adding resistance. We know how nice linears sound normally....it shouldn't be impossible...

[@sandwich-plays]

@@Shyvorixgateron jades have a closed bottom, the raws have smaller hole, and they sound a lot better so that could be a part

[@Shyvorix]

@sandwich-plays Hmm potentially...I was considering the jade max switches but unsure yet cause I frankly love the sound of the 80he as is barring the space bar so might swap out the keycaps, idunno yet. Find tuning the sound will take time.

[@bchan6539]

always enjoy to see your videos, keep up the good work!

[@f3nneko]

I think that while this board is a big step in the right direction for wooting and HE boards in general, things like the plastic case using plastic clips to hold the case together (plastic clips almost always will break and snap with enough wear), and the plate foam being a requirement and not a preference choice because it houses the gasket system still feels "anti-custom" compared to custom keyboards of today. But I have a lot of hope for future wooting boards because they are very receptive to feedback, and it is very awesome to see!

[@JakubixIsHere]

It cant have soft gaskets because actuation point wouldnt be correct all time

[@Shyvorix]

​@JakubixIsHere Yea thats the 1 biggest risk with HE. You kind of *have* to sacrifice some flex for pinpoint .1 and especially .01mm accuracy.

[@f3nneko]

@@JakubixIsHere but it’s not gasket mounting that causes a problem for the accuracy of the hall effect, it’s the plate. the qk65v2 classic with the he pcb can do great with no plate foam with gasket mounting, that’s what the aluminum plate with stand offs on that board is for, to assure constant distance. wooting can do this same thing in the future to welcome different options for sound profiles that doesn’t require plate foam

[@clarkettinger6958]

@@JakubixIsHere no?

[@JakubixIsHere]

@@f3nneko ok i was wrong. Any types of flex does that. It is little bit flexable. You know if you have flex, readings of he sensors are all over the place and they are never the same. So if you want accurate actuation point that best option for them. They even tried flex pcb

[@MsToshi1990]

Scott is back!!!

[@AyySorento]

Been waiting for this one!

[@Keybored]

Hope it's not disappointing! It's been tough trying to create content with half the equipment... And editing off a small laptop 😂

[@riceshakes]

Geon raws sound great on an FR4 plate. Idk if kbdfans plans on stocking it, but the one they had for the 60he works really well

[@peanutbutterbean1738]

had my 80HE for about 3 weeks now and after being in the keyboard hobby for so long i genuinely just dont have any desire to get other keyboards, for literally everything out there its just a case of 'thats cool but i would rather use my wooting'. So i may get geon raws for it, but other than that i genuinely feel like the only other keyboard stuff i may buy is keycaps for when i really want to change the aesthetics of it, but seriously liking my black pcr case and keychron dolch pink cherry profile caps combo so even that might will only probably be later down the line.

[@mysticali11usiongaming]

Great Video!!! Have a good one!

[@helloyu6270]

Now I want a zinc or steel tofu 60 for my wooting 60 lol

[@SqueakyTypes]

The 80HE looks promising as an all rounder. I'm currently testing the 60HE+ and I kinda still prefer it for gaming and its universal compatibility for the cases in the market. That being said, it's all preference at the end of the day. great video! ( * ^ *)b

[@VieiraBBX]

The next step would be getting a better case for it. but with mods already installed, its way better

[@Wavelyyy]

honestly im not sure how much more the extra 100+ dollars is for the zinc. how big of a difference would there be in the sound with the mods you used for the PCR version? trying to go for something "creamy" i guess im not sure how to describe it

[@metalskinn460]

Someday HE boards will look and sound like customs but at least for now Wooting is the closest!

[@SeraphimKnight]

I've been waiting a long time for wooting to make a 75+ and this keyboard answers all the problems I had with the 60... but man that price tag. I've been daily driving a QK75 for a while and honestly I can't justify that price difference to myself. I wish they'd at least offer a slightly cheaper verison that's keycap and RGB-less because god knows I don't need that.

[@dave7474]

you should be able to purchase the parts from them separately, its what i did. ordered keycaps separate

[@icyveins-24]

It feels like you used different microphones / settings between stock vs modded sound test. Is that the case?

[@Keybored]

It seems my mic got grounded on one of the recordings... Still setting up and things are not perfect unfortunately

[@nxu.m3403]

This might actually make me buy the Geon Raws for my incoming 80HE....

[@chae_val]

why dont keyboards use stainless steel instead of aluminum or zinc? im kinda new to keyboards and were just wondering about that

[@KramptCustoms]

Your micrphone is grounded. When you do the soundtest.

[@Keybored]

Still in the process of setting up and things are not yet working as intended as it seems 😕

[@noon6]

Great video! Would of been nice to hear the Jades tho.

[@StoicBoyMario]

Would LOVE a similar video with the melgeek made68/80 customised to the max :)

[@ZKai5801]

Wooting adhd 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@scymension]

Man I wish they already had the 80HE when I bought my 60HE end of 2022

[@Keybored]

I guess that's the price of change! I hope all these will go down in price more and more

[@kjyu]

literally a reason i didn't buy wooting before it got popular. hehe

[@Syphe07]

I get mine in exactly 24 hours, I can't wait lol

[@abdelrahmanhaitham8171]

How was your experience

[@Syphe07]

UPS has decided to keep my package for themselves for the past 4 days

[@RF-INF]

I see that Razer Pro Click Mini, another interesting choice for wireless mouse :)

[@greatbriton8425]

I just got my son one for the analogue keys as he was hoping to use it with his mouse on Rocket League but it turns out you can't use the mouse and analogue together so now I'm stuck with a board I don't need and there's no online place to even sell it except eBay who charge 15% of the price, wow.

[@greatbriton8425]

BTW if anyone wants this one feel free to mail me.

[@Orlyy]

Keybored, I know you're absolutely incredible with modding, but didn't you use an entirely different mic for the stock sound test vs the geon raw? That makes it HEAVILY bias.

[@mainsource8030]

seems his mic got grounded on one of the recordings... Still setting up and things are not perfect unfortunately

[@grd1184]

Just preordered 80he it’s $580 Canadian with jade switches and alloy case

[@stfn112]

Thanks for the video. I can't wait to receive mine. What would be the difference in sound between using some polyfill and doing a tape mod that I have seen some other people use for the board?

[@AristarcoPalacios]

Excellent videos! I've seen 'em all. Would you please mention if the keyb you review has ISO layout option, please? Would help a lot in the buying decisions. Thanks!

[@mikerzisu9508]

Decided not to wait for the v2 of the white zinc case?

[@Saki630]

How do you fix the ugly space-bar sound on this beyboard and the Keychrons? I hate it. Also for $300 they need to give you more int he box considering my K2Max 75% was $99 on Amazon and weighs a lot too in its metal case. No way the 80HE is worth 300+

[@TheGameDealer]

Great vid. I gotta ask tho. Is it fine to PE foam mod the hall effect kb ? Im taking aboit putting tge pe foam between the switches and the pcb. Will that affect the kb performance?

[@OneCosmic749]

You shouldn't have to mod such an expensive keyboard.

[@cvd1]

Just change the keycaps and it's as good as new

[@DianeSteele]

You dont

[@crayp7]

did you turn around the switches 180° to avoid interference because of the cherry keycaps you use?

[@xpinoyxgoodness]

Just wanna say Hi Scott and hope your move is going good :)

[@FallenSleep]

Hi, pretty great video. Wanted to ask if you think the stock lube is good enough

[@aPhevit0st]

with the geon HE switches, which spring weight did you go for?

[@Alby911]

anyway to fix the arrow cluster? it looks weird

[@adrianelias7538]

Is the white one a content creator edition thats one isnt on the wooting site

[@randymarsh9716]

Hey tried asking a few days ago but thought I'd try again!: "Just found your channel and this is a great video! Couple of questions, which bottom-force are your geon switches? I'm on their website and it shows three options, 40.0gf, 50.0gf, and 60.0gf. Also can you type the name of the keycaps you changed too? I'm probably going to be ordering the 80he and want to create this exact keyboard. Thank you so much!"

[@randymarsh9716]

@Keybored?

[@sinchedaniel1]

how u get the white case is not on the page

[@ronald0122]

Lekker 60 v2 or geon raw he 50 for gaming? I play cs2 a lot.

[@choc91]

all switches are the same if they have 0.1 auctuation its just sound basicly

[@iisaaaaa]

Did you manually lube the Geons are or they stock (factory lubed)?

[@TastidiousYabbie]

a little rich for my budget, interesting case design and material though.

[@Vaznazza]

how does the modded sound so different?

[@lukespatola1184]

Did you watch the video?

[@holdenhodgdon3756]

Do you have any advice on how to soften the bottom out on a HE board? I just got a Yunzii RT75, which didn't make your roundup video, but it was cheap & has a knob: I am fundamentally lost on how to adjust the software for games, but I am mostly ok with the feel of the switches (Outemu pink). There keys are very smooth and silent when soft pressing, but there is a harsh ping when typing normally & bottom out the key stroak ... I have two sets of keycaps coming tomorrow & I also have the dumb idea of trying stem o-rings, but I am open to better suggestions. P.S. the case is plastic and has no gasket.

[@Keybored]

You know, with tray mount designs, o ring method is not bad at all

[@holdenhodgdon3756]

@@Keybored thank you

[@holdenhodgdon3756]

​​@@KeyboredUpdate: IT WORKED! Not just "it was fine" this board now feels and sounds on par with the $250+ boards I have. I highly suggest you try it out yourself since you have been trying to make HE sound better. Parts used were of Thin / Soft Orings, plus Womier Crystal Jelly keycaps (which are pretty dense).

[@mav7445]

how did he change the mount...?

[@fj5293]

If u want an keyboard I got u

[@mav7445]

@@fj5293 what do u mean...?

[@AlhazerdVivi]

Scott time to review Rainy75 RT

[@Cyan101]

Shame my 80HE has some pretty ass RGB LEDs, hoping support helps soon cause this thing was $300 AUD :T

[@JakubixIsHere]

They cant

[@BlackipinoGambino]

sad, white board isn’t available anymore 😔

[@EnnTomi1]

try jade pro, big improvement

[@ilikehiking]

Imagine how good this could've been if they just made a TKL instead of this layout so we had aftermarket case options.

[@richardbrady1849]

Thanks so much for focusing on HE board sound, I've waiting on getting an HE keyboard until the sound gets better

[@Nbunasuis24]

I want one so badly never bought a keyboard in my life but I want the only keyboard i buy to be the best and right now hall effect keyboards still cant produce good enough sound so imma just wait, saving money is good anyways 😂

[@notDroxy]

stock preview was sound boosted u can hear background distortion...

[@Keybored]

Apparently I have some grounding issue...

[@impointr]

"But what if I told you those days are over?" Proceeds to showcase another typical HE meh sound

[@holdenhodgdon3756]

It sounds pretty good for an HE.

[@impointr]

@@holdenhodgdon3756 At least there's that, yeah. Although still too low pitched to my tastes tbh.

[@qwf583]

yeah i wonder if HE boards can ever sound as good as mx

[@Shyvorix]

​@@qwf583 Will depend ultimately on switch design and plates. Now crazy flex is highly unrecommended due to accuracy requirements for HE PCBs so that also has to be kept in mind... Switch design, I think they'll need a partial redesign to make them more stable, but I think they'll still be a bit hollow without filling up the internals.

[@Masterincommander]

can you review the Zenblade 65

[@Keybored]

You know, I have been very curious about that keeb!

[@bakakafka4428]

Lots of reviews got scratches and chips off their zinc cases. Not really good quality

[@JakubixIsHere]

So 2 reviews?

[@bakakafka4428]

@@JakubixIsHere Well, even Scott got chips of his... I'd get the plastic one. Wooting is going to release their design files for third party case manufacturers later.

[@JakubixIsHere]

@@bakakafka4428 they release for everyone on their github. And they are working On that chipping issue

[@Shyvorix]

Its the zinc white. Zinc black is safe from this.

[@sandwich-plays]

they haven’t found a white paint that sticks well yet

[@Reaper-kf4yb]

09:01 WTF nicely cushined keyboard? the wooting gasket is stiff by design...i love when ppl just mash content out and say something wich is totally wrong

[@TheRealYeller]

Would love to see a keychron Q11 in a HE option... also ortho without giving up the F-Row

[@Majzineny]

Bro how bout K2 HE :D rather have that than this bs

[@holiclove]

오 HE ~

[@Keybored]

네, 감사합니다 ~ 잘 봐주셔서 고마워요

[@NeonLine1982]

The 80he would've been perfect if it was a nomal tkl layout instead of this weird one.

[@Keybored]

I initially thought it would be a TKL, but I guess wooting took a different direction!

[@name1393]

it is absolutely overpriced, can't believe you defended the pricing lol

[@천둥소리-r1n]

사람마다 느끼는게 틀리겠지만 ...성능은 정말 좋고 인정합니다 다만 ...이렇게 비싼 키보드에 디자인이나 퀄리티가 이정도밖에 못만드는건지 정말 ...안타깝습니다 구매할수있는 충분한 능력은 있지만 너무나도 못생긴 키보드에 이정도 돈을 쓰는건 아닌거 같아서 자체 제작 커스텀 바디가 생기기전까지 참는 중입니다

[@Kitty_Salad]

at 600$ cad, its not a keyboard I would want to buy no matter how good the performance is ;(

[@azii0001]

11:15

[@thatsl1ve183]

Still doesn't sound good with the geon switches tbh. Less awful thats true :D

[@ChillRides-ug4wt]

Overall this was a good video. The keyboard is pretty good except for it's sound even after the MOD. It doesn't thocc, it sounds terribly high pitched. If it sounded deep and clean It'd be great

[@Haru_no_ki]

Sounds cheap and hollow for that mental price. Could have been better off with aluminium and be 50€ cheaper

[@JakubixIsHere]

It is not hollow?

[@Majzineny]

Bro thinks its best keyboard :DDD me waiting on Keychron K2 HE for 130 :)

[@the12gaugeshotty]

Sorry. Even modded it still sounds horrible. It’s annoying, just a different annoying.

[@djevon4853]

I still think that, when factoring in price vs sound, typing performance and the (debatable) benefit of HE, it still has yet to become something worth the average gamers money. The plastic board is way overpriced IMO, and the overall sound of HE still is lackluster to me. I also don't think that rapid trigger is even a real benefit for 99% of gamers, and to those who could benefit from it its still not a huge deal. It's also becoming considered cheating, as it is banned in at least CS2 and will be in Deadlock, not to mention the amount of OW2 players yearning for a rapid trigger ban. It just doesn't live up to the hype that seems to be all over the hobby right now.

[@JakubixIsHere]

Rapid trigger wasnt banned. Socd is, and as averege gamer i can instantly see diffrence with rt on and off

[@sandwich-plays]

there’s a lot more hall effect alternatives rn, and they’re cheaper aswell

[@elisebright]

Only socd is banned and a majority of pros use some sort of keyboard that have rapid trigger in the keyboard according to prosettings' website. Whether pros actually use rapid trigger who knows but they more than likely are given wooting and razer have seen a huge surge in usage.

[@Shyvorix]

For competitive games, HE is literally priceless and 1000% worth no matter what. For casual games, meh. Not a big deal.

[@greatbriton8425]

You'd have called using a mouse cheating when mice first came out, hey :)

[@minhquanvu2944]

So instead of sounding like a 20$ board, the wooting now sound like a 40$ board

[@mikerzisu9508]

Oh please

[@r1ppl3_13]

eyyy 1 min ago

[@Keybored]

Eyyy!