Best Palpatine + Vader Rework Arena Team vs. Jedi Training Rey? | Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes

[@tysonchermishnok5625]

I'd love to see royal guard get a zeta or new unique, which gives major survival buffs to palpatine, like maybe a debuff and crit immunity while royal guard is alive, or every time palpatine take damage royal guard taunts and cleanses palpatine.

[@garydworkjr2326]

it'd be cool for RG to be Palps homie like Chaze and Wiggs. nice idea

[@nalehua1]

You're absolutely correct about Vader's unique, no need to zeta. Great video AhnaldT101

[@AhnaldT101]

Yeah I really like Vader because of the fact he does not need that zeta. Its free speed!!!

[@yungxmodulus]

AhnaldT101 I only Zeta'd to make his ship better. It makes his ship better right??

[@goldman77700]

Yes.

[@yungxmodulus]

Artorias Draknight bless

[@tyv1383]

Jakob S it's literally like 1% health and prot. No speed

[@jwoods9753]

Need a rework on imperial guard. He could be the tank to work with Palp.

[@AhnaldT101]

Yeah this would’ve been the perfect time to do that!

[@andrewcox9274]

2 quick things. The first is a shardmate runs EP l, thrawn, shore, MT and GK. Really really good. Second. If they would have made EP healing ability aoe cleanse it would have been a much better rework

[@AhnaldT101]

YES an AoE Palp cleanse no Let the Hate Flow would've taken this to the perfect level!

[@quacko11]

Or increase palpatines base speed by like 30 to 40 or more makes no sense how dsrth sidious is monumentally faster when its the same person before he got even stronger

[@Mycollectablesyoutube]

Would that line up work against NS? Cheers

[@axl8603]

Maybe Palp and vader under a Zeta Nihilus lead, the health gain is pure gold against the plague.

[@dazdavis7896]

Axel Herrmann they'll get wrecked on defense. Nihilus lead doesn't help on defense at all. Vader or Palp lead is way better than Nihilus' lead. Vader/Wampa/Thrawn/Nihilus or Zylo with either GK or Shore trp as the 5th spot. They wreck

[@codyg269]

I am so glad there are people like you, you just saved me all of the 60 zeta abilities that i would have spent on these characters. This sucks that the two most important villains in star wars are outshined by Disney love for SJW's. Love the content, keep it up.

[@santiagonatividad3443]

Since I started playing SWGOF I looked up videos of this awesome game and found your KZbin channel, your content is amazing and I really love the way you make videos, keep it up like that man and thanks for giving us this awesome videos

[@vashythewabbit8288]

To this day, I still wonder why Jedi training Rey is called "Jedi Training" even though in the movie she didn't actually get any real training at all.

[@100nitrog2]

And I want to know why Ezra is a jedi but CLS and JEDI training Rey aren't.

[@josephafrica23]

Sad that 2 of the best “jedi” in the game arent considered “jedi”

[@SennaAugustus]

Ezra is a Jedi because Kanan is a Jedi Knight and allowed to have a padawan. Kanan is a Jedi Knight because despite the Jedi Order being non-existent, he was magically knighted by the Force itself. Luke and Rey aren't Jedi because of that same reason: the Order does not exist. Even Old Ben shouldn't have been labelled a Jedi (and he's not a rebel for that matter).

[@100nitrog2]

Though for that matter, you could argue that Stormtrooper Han isn't a rebel either. He was just a smuggler until he came back during the battle. Farmboy Luke WANTED to join the Rebel Alliance, so I think he can be counted.

[@zurielrivera709]

I think if they put it in their uniques that their attacks can’t be evaded countered or affects resisted instead of in their moves and added foresight for every time Palpatine inflicts shock and his let the hate flow gave crit chance up and crit damage up it would solve the problem. Hope EA sees this.

[@viniciuspepino8834]

My opinion is that for those who doesn’t have Jedi Rey or Nightsisters, this is the next option. I went from 60s in arena to 16 today!

[@Renju366]

That was a very detailed and useful review, AhnaldT101. I was actually considering getting both of Palpatine's zetas but I am not so convinced now.

[@seantinder7247]

Would you mind doing another ranking video? The last one you did was so long ago. Please.

[@Kuultyc]

Kylo Unmasked is a good replacement for GK on this team, his stun and debuffs pair well and he is easier to get

[@ThaddeusBloodRaven]

hadn't considered this. already got a KRU 7*. I'll give it a shot.

[@DrChillin]

If we can unlock Sion and Traya, Sion should be a tank with a unique similar to N.S. Zombie, and Traya should be a cleanser.

[@john9377]

I put the zeta on Vader’s Unique about 2 min after the update went live and am not impressed but I don’t reget it because it boosts his ship and I think it will play a part in the Sith raid that’s coming. The big problem with Palp Vader and empire in general is they don’t have that one or 2 toons that do almost everything like GK that cleanses, taunts, gives Crit prevention, grants retribution, has a swarm attack on top of doing above average damage or a CLS that strips TM, gives speed down, tenacity down, defense down, stuns, self cleanses/heals, leads with counter and offense up on top of doing amazing damage. The empire needs more than a squad to get all of what a GK or CLS does by themselves.

[@jonathanace7950]

It would be cool if you show them against Cls because more people will have him

[@AhnaldT101]

Already have a video made on unlisted to show that this weekend :)

[@vexienroe]

Spoiler alert they are bad. Like way worse than against "jedi" rey.

[@seanfisher7707]

I actually really like the new Vader unique (do not zeta though). But just the *raw* speed increase (again with my favorite- Nihilus lead) is so *so* good!

[@AhnaldT101]

166% agree my man. So glad it is not tied to a zeta for all that speed!

[@Robert-pn7we]

Start using Zeta IPD in your teams over Thrawn or Nihilus

[@DeepBoxGames]

Another awesome video!

[@akbop3749]

The Dark Side needs a Captain Rex level cleanse

[@kyrey5468]

Great video, Ahnald! Totally agree. These zetas aren't worth it, IMO.

[@dasistmeinnamedasistmeinna9662]

Yeah... they are ok (i think) bu not what a zeta is supposed to give you...

[@AhnaldT101]

If you are running JTR already not much of a reason to do this for arena but if you see Rebels and Nightsisters all the time that is where he shines!

[@frameshifted1999]

I got slaughtered when switching to emporer in arena , though crackling Doom would of been more useful. Was better off with my rebel crew

[@krxmpxs5332]

zTarkin (L), zVader (unique), zPalpatine (Unique), zGAT (Unique) and zSavage (Unique) ... tarkin at 216 speed, zader at 199, palpatine at 202, GAT at 237 and Zavage at 209 👍

[@luciusn21]

Palp and Vader really needed something that is just between the two of them. Like what wiggs, and chaze have.

[@StrigoiVampire]

Agree! Agree!!!!!

[@BitoyV3]

Of the 4 zetas between Vader and Palpatine, which would be the best to get first?

[@letsrideandchill9752]

, Ahnald do you not make hero reviews anymore? i love those things.

[@reflectiongaming4173]

Palpatine and Vader need another rework!

[@robertmenn900]

What about putting Tarkin in there? Could speed up the team. Go with Emperor, Vader, Thrawn, Tarkin, and Shoretrooper. Or maybe put Tarkin in the lead of this squad.

[@fabiangerhards4820]

@AhnaldT101 Did u test Darth Sidious in a Zaderlead against JTR? In theory, her turnmetergain and cooldownreduction can be shut down, by these two going after another putting Damage over time onto everyone. Both characters are damn fast and can hurt GK. Zidious is even fairly tanky for an attacker. With Darth nihilus u can even put more cooldown on them and keep spamming debuffs on everyone. Sith Trooper could tank eventually with GK/Thrawn/Shoretrooper. Just an idea for a setup which is worse against rebels, but better against JTR in theory.

[@LelloZ84]

@ AhnaldT101 i run zzEP(L), Vader, DT, ZzThraw and Kenobi. On offense is ok, but on defense i lose 20 positions in 1 night. Sometimes i switch Kenobi with shore, always on offense ok, but i lack the clean abilty of kenobi. For you, what is fhe best EP squad? Thraw is an essential character in a EP squad? Do you think DT is viable? Thank you

[@josephgannon5198]

Can you do a video about thrawn lead teams with the rework? Because that's even more protection for palpatine

[@TheRealGridan]

Hey Ahnald a beastly team on my server is Zeta Palp lead, Vader, thrawn, nihilus (sometimes swapped for gk) and tarkin. Since Tarkin dishes out so many debuffs, pair that with the nihilus zeta and it really fuels a lot of tm! Maybe give that one a shot.

[@stevesanchez8925]

Gridan _ how nh zeta helps you in the tram

[@jarms010]

i remember when you guys said jtr was underwhelming. once someone finds the right team comp, these reworks might end up being great.

[@AhnaldT101]

Well the fact pattern was different for JTR. Our initial impression of JTR was because of the sub-par footage provided by EA to us. This impression comes from us actually testing the character ourselves. JTR once we got access to her we recognized immediately how good she was!

[@LordRevan-zj1zm]

I bet when the Sith marauder comes out it will boost these teams alot.

[@elitehonor117]

Can you complain about your team being in the open if you're the one who refused to cleanse and TM swap shore?

[@MrMikehole]

I'd like to see your video updated with Palp, Vader, Nihilus, GK & Old Ben. That team wrecked my RJT squad

[@gideonthearcher1973]

I Wonder about if nihilus lead the team would palps increase of protection during battle increase his health?

[@patsmedic]

The problem with these reworks is that they only reworked the abilities. Come on even a g12 palpatine with that +6250 g12 health piece gets obliterated by Raid Han. They should've reworked the abilities AND the base stats!

[@redshadowtheultimate]

WE NEED SION AND TRAYA COLLECTABLE

[@AhnaldT101]

Let's hope it happens man!!

[@redshadowtheultimate]

AhnaldT101 kreias teachings changed me for the better.

[@jodygerlach6478]

Yes yes we need this!

[@7lesstrat]

"No longer do your whispers crawl within my skull, no longer do we suffer beneath teachings that weaken us." All I want is to demolish JTR teams with Sion

[@rogueleader7116]

Could Boba work into a squad against Jedi Rey Team with his wrist rocket using all buffs to increase damage..?

[@iiamthesenate]

I think Savage Opress would be good with Palps zeta. Just get shocks and if the enemy is rebel or jedi enemy will take tons of damage. Then one shot enemy with Opress

[@notjux]

Uuuuuuuuuh... So I've been playing this game for 6 months, and I'm only just now realizing that the Squad Management screen exists. So..... thanks Ahnald!!

[@Techington]

Go for Papa Palpatine! Love the robot chicken reference haha!

[@gharbad]

Would love to see more tests vs NS squads with GK. They're all over my arena shard.

[@GP-wu3cv]

JTR is great and all but without BB8 and R2 she is blown out by any combo. Palp could have a wide variety of combos.

[@roblechot4201]

So do you see the Sith Maurader going into this lineup? And if so, do you feel it could make this squad more viable in Arena?

[@orionpraxas9731]

Ahnald did you try a zihilus lead at all? Nihilus, palpy, Vader, dooku, and another sith of choice (maybe marauder depending on how he works) might be the combo you’re looking for

[@orgrimdoomhammer659]

Ahnald, I'm wondering what's the best PURE empire team right now. Is it still Thrawn+Krooper or would you give the title to a Palp/Vader combo? I don't want to dishonor myself by running GK or DN...

[@SmartDTime]

I have been experimenting with a EP lead (zeta), Vader, thrawn, darth sidious (zeta gear 12) , sith trooper. When modded for a mixture of health, potency and crit chance Sidious is providing many debuffs that can expire quickly and heal block. The biggest handicap I'm seeing is the JTR heal block that doesn't go away. otherwise hes up at over 60k health if modded right.

[@sithlord5145]

I maxed both and am doing well in arena

[@paulsir1500]

So a couple days in, who do you think the best Sith Zeta leadership is? See, I'm not modded well, because I'm modded for a Nihilus Zeta. Basicly before I go moving all this crit damage on my sith I wanna make sure palps is that much better than Nihilus

[@paulsmith5003]

If you are able to, it would be nice to see how they are with the zetas in a dark side territory battle.

[@axl8603]

I use EP under a Thrawn lead, mainly for the mass stun and it‘s two turns if offense up, this really helps now to fuel my big hitters (TFP and DT)... the Zeta on the Unique might help here cuz it makes him a bit more durable, maybe even more so with the Leadership Zeta of Thrawn

[@domenantonic6365]

What about Zrennic lead with death trooper, palpatine, Thrawn and Kenobi? With palpatine stacking protection maybe that could work ?

[@mysciences]

Hi AhnaldT, great video so useful because i just unlocked 7 Star EP. I do not have thrawn but I do run Boba lead with zeta ig88 zader GMT and Old Ben. My nihilus is 3 * Sion, Sith T, and ipd are 4 *. Any point in putting zeta on ep or trying to use EP right now as assist? My shard is ep kru dominated. thank you.

[@MichaelZom]

My guess it’s not worth swapping from my NS to Empire in arena. I’m might keep hoarding on gear and zetas till they announce the new raid and toons. Keep up the good work!

[@spursamn]

Im curious, have you tried zeta Savage instead of Kenobi in that team? I really want to see that tested against the meta because it seems to be working very well for me in GW testing but i don't want to test it in arena and potentially drop a bunch.

[@LelloZ84]

@ AhnaldT101 i run zzEP(L), Vader, DT, ZzThraw and Kenobi. On offense is ok, but on defense i lose 20 positions in 1 night. Sometimes i switch Kenobi with shore, always on offense ok, but i lack the clean abilty of kenobi. For you, what is fhe best EP squad? Thraw is an essential character in a EP squad? Do you think DT is viable? Thank you

[@legendlightningbringer1173]

What about the IPD Bomb you made a video about a while back? Seems like a pretty good substitute for Nihilus on Offense, and could potentially serve better on defense then him too

[@caydugan5049]

I did well with a maul lead, didn't wait to see on defense though. Question, would nilihus, or even maul? Be a difference with these reworks?

[@andrewbryant705]

Hey dawg, I'm a lower tier player but I've been running Palp zeta lead, Vader (no zeta unique), Tarkin (no zeta unique), shore and Royal Guard and I got top 50 for the first time. Heavy heavy CLS in my shard though

[@AhnaldT101]

Yeah Palpatine is amazing against CLS! Got a video coming out this weekend to showcase that! So much fun!

[@achilles8804]

EP’s rework feels like a nerf, he doesn’t deal mass damage on his turns anymore it’s in the enemies so when he’s gaining lots of turn meter with shocks and his leadership he isn’t hitting everyone anymore, you basically have to be on the losing side where they are attacking more for it to even matter, and by then they’ve probably knocked out EP since he’s still kind of frail

[@josephafrica23]

Why not use probe droid in the team? You can use palp to damage probe and he can 2 turn self destruct (potentially) right?

[@seanperriello2168]

This is for sure an end game team but in earlier levels would ShoreTrooper (p2p) or Stormtrooper (f2p) be a decent alternative to General Ken-obi. And maybe GMT for Nih? Thanks

[@benscott3221]

done the palp zeta. very good with the extra protection

[@dimenzed]

Not only is Palpader's "rework" not enough to make them dominate the meta, but with the new Siths incoming, they will once again be submerged into oblivion! They could've at least created a duo synergy between them with perhaps a second Unique on Palpatine called "Rule of Two" or something like that. First they screwed the Last Jedi and now they screw one of the most anticipated reworks in this game! Cheers!

[@PURE_V3NOM]

Hey Ahnald, can you test out zSidious and zSavage. I'd like to see how they do under a palp lead.

[@kirbymorgan4068]

The best use for Vader since I added the 2nd Zeta is replacing GK with him on the Titans team when you want to get by the PITA NS teams. R2's Burn and his Force Crush have ended up handling NSA.

[@Notedmountain]

I've been using a admiral thrawn zeta lead with Vader emperor death trooper and shore trooper they are very powerful

[@thefirstmonkey6149]

Great vid as always but I don't have Shoretrooper - should I run stormtrooper and Sith Trooper? - I'm pretty low in my shard.

[@i13thDuke]

My shard is only just over a year old and has a tonne of CLS leads (me included) and only a few JTR. I'm debating the Emperor Zetas as it seems a hard counter to CLS. I probably need to up the Emp from his current GL10 and I don't have Kenobi or Shoretrooper and only a weak 5* GL7 Thrawn so I'm still undecided!

[@leage150]

I hope it's good. I haven't played the game in months but then I saw your vid on the reworks, hopped back on the game and dumped 2 zetas on palp lol.

[@num351]

Big thx for the Video, so as i thought bad Zeta at this point for Both of them.

[@alekseyshtoda5846]

Personally i found EP lead, DW, DN and 2 tanks team - GK/SithTrooper team very hard to beat. You guys are keeping me from the first place!! /Gim

[@sethburdsal7007]

Accessible teams! Yes! I’m just getting Phoenix Squad to seven stars, so Empire will be my next focus.

[@DarthSmirnoff]

Hey Ahnald!, do you have any vids on your page about tips for leveling up characters(Training droid farming and the like)? I did a search, but KZbins search feature is..."Not great", to put it lightly.

[@BRANDON1SILVA]

Nice vid, informative! This weekend can you ask if they have any plans for a farming dungeon type aspect to the game? It would be nice to reward players 'time spent' in game rather than 'money spent' on game.

[@TroLoLoLPickle]

Palpatine lead, vader, TFP, shoretrooper and thrawn is bomb

[@highlysuspect3405]

Try Vader lead, palp, thrawn, shoretrooper, and probe droid. Saw video of them beating JTR and nightsisters

[@jonjohnston5333]

I don't know Arnold, Rumple and Smithie might disagree with you! Haha! I'm sure there is more stuff coming down the pipe for the Dark side. There is no way they would do all this work for subpar reworks.

[@michaelspisak2644]

So I’m curious, could you try out a heroic tank raid with Zader lead, EP, Wampa, Thrawn, and either FO executioner or sith marauder?

[@mrpadga3417]

So knowing that i have a rebel team in arena, no JTR in horizon and a zeta coming up, i should probably switch to a palp team right?

[@grammernotsee4097]

Did you notice none of those guys in the first arena team had 2 mod sets on, they had a speed or offense set, then two randoms mods that didnt make a set

[@MOllySixxxCA]

Grammer Notsee because they were going for speed secondaries

[@nouseforaname6846]

yeah , I just got Palpatine maxed and was curious about arena mods. was kinda bummed to see that.

[@nouseforaname6846]

crouching rancor said crit dam / crit chance I believe it was, just didn't seem right. Maybe speed and potency sets? Appreciate the vid tho 👍👍

[@LA2KMATT]

You know RUMPLES arena teams seems solid to me, you should check it out. He had Palp lead, Vader, Nihilus, Thrawn, and Kylo REN Unmasked.

[@gavinharrison3749]

I am running the classic Titan team. CLS, GK, R2, Han and Thrawn. Currently don't have JTR. Would your advice be to switch to empire or another faction?

[@tinman1843]

Could you do a vid as to how you mod Vader & Palpatine?

[@josephgannon5198]

I used the zeta on Palpatines unique and didn't change my team at all appart from that and went from 50-30 at best to getting 15 in squad arena today

[@gazzadthomas]

Try running EP lead, vader, tarkin, starc and thrawn

[@danmehr]

I’m struggling beating some of the guys in my arena using these squads. I’ve mainly been a gk/zbarris user, sometimes with zhoda and also CLS lead and Rex lead. I’ve not invested in nisghtsisters and I don’t have JTR. Any tips on actually beating these teams??

[@rhettrostyle]

Can you guys please try the following team, I want to see how they work fully kitted. Deathmark and stagger I feel will help alot. EzPz, Zader, zThrawn, Krennic, and Deathrooper. I know everyone is stuck on having a tank but this team won't need one if there are enough debuffs being applied. It works like a champ and everyone is hung up on the tank but not considering the other combos.

[@mmmb7510]

Ahnald do you think Zaul might come back with all these new Sith coming? I’d love to dust him off along with the rest of my sith.

[@Nienormalny]

i like those sound improvements that you made. Works brilliant! But about the videos... i liked it more before. Your room had a kinda personal touch, Now it's just a studio.

[@AhnaldT101]

Yeah unfortunately though logistically wise the old room was not working for me to make vids :/ I would come home late and wouldn't be able to make videos whereas now I can. Definitely some drawbacks but I'm happy I made the change

[@Nienormalny]

i'm also happy for the change. The quality of the sound and visuals have improved significantly. And in time i'm sure you will make this place more personal as well and as always i look forward for your future content! Peace out mate. Pozdrowienia!

[@darkestrealm9694]

I was wondering, would imperial super commando work good under a vader lead? I was looking for your video on an in depth review of ISC but couldnt find one

[@GB-dy5qe]

Pretty sure you'd still be better off with a Thrawn lead using these.

[@yeeterbobjoe3128]

I think Revan should just come out in a legendary event. It would make sense to have him raid exclusive, but I think it would be even easier to have him in a legendary event where sith are the requirements.

[@TravelandLuxury1]

Hey bro did you guys try Palp L Vader Thrawn SHore and GK?

[@StrigoiVampire]

I use *Palpatine* (leader) *Vader* *Shoretrooper* *Nihilus* *Tie Fighter Pilot* Tie Fighter Pilot must first attack everyone in the arena, so that he can block R2D2's ability, if he can not block R2D2's ability, at least there's a great chance he can prevent other players from hiding in the R2D2 smoke, gives a good initial advantage.

[@beaug4306]

No IPD test??? Seems like it would be perfect to counter foresight and to use palp to trigger self destruct. Once you make it a 4v4 it could be a whole new ball game.

[@AhnaldT101]

I’ve tested it but it’s not as impressive on defense. I wanted to focus on the core team of Palp, Thrawn, Vader, and Nihilus since the consensus is that is so far the most successful

[@beaug4306]

AhnaldT101 Query: I have all the other members of this team at g12 and palp 1 piece away. I missed jtr, running a zarris team and am staying top 20 somehow but I cant beat any half way decent Rey team and the top 10 are all jtr or night sister teams. You think its worth me burning the zetas? Do I need both on palp for this to work?

[@d.hermanski7731]

The nightsister rework was awesome, too. So, CG is capable of doing nice reworks and i think this is also a good rework. not every thing has to be OP, just wait some weeks, EP and Vader will find their role

[@Psymon1988Stark]

how good is a complete sith team with Imp. (Lead), Vader, Nihlus, S-Trooper and S- Assa. ?

[@iamhamburgerz3005]

I'M STILL GONNA ZETA HIM then his combo name would be Zalps xP

[@AhnaldT101]

Or the Zenate ;)

[@iamhamburgerz3005]

Genius

[@Matt13556]

"I AM THE ZENATE"

[@darthduivel633]

Zalpatine

[@LegendSkull367]

I_Am_Hamburgerz no because CUP is the best hero in the game right above zam wessel so you should zeta them.

[@Ascisana]

I think the small Vader changes have a bigger impact than the palpatine changes, and the best thing is you can keep the zetas for more important charakters

[@NameIsKirito]

Can you tell us how to get better in star wars galaxy of heroes for beginners? Please

[@quantis100]

I'm using Palp lead, Vader, Nihilus, Sith Trooper and Sith Assassin. Fully zetaed and it's pretty good, evan JTR isn't issue