Best Plugin for Resolve - HALATION | PRO Tutorial

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Darren Mostyn

Darren Mostyn

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@JimRobinson-colors
@JimRobinson-colors 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Darren, another good video here. I happen to agree with you on where the halation plugin should be placed in the node tree. The film emulation process is not emulating each step in the process in order, so the idea that it should be the first node, would only be a valid point if you were emulating the process and recreating each step. So if that was the case, then you would only be using printer light and setting exposure and you would be done with it. I asked our friend Walter his opinion on where the halation should be on the node treeand and his response was: “Imagine that you put halation at the beginning and then you darken the window light: the halation is now not coherent anymore with the light that comes from that window. So, for me, halation (and grain) should be put at the end of the process you do to the shot as if the shot was capture in that way, before thefinal look/lut. It has both philosophical and practical implications.” The pushing it too far to show it on youTube, is a point in itself, considering that most of us are grading to use on youTube halation and film grain strength is always a consideration and problem. Being subtle sometimes means no one sees it. Don’t have “Dehancer” but it looks to be something to consider, Nice to see you explain such complex plugins in an easy to understand fashion. Really great explanation of halation and how it works.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jim Well I'm pleased to hear that. I spent days testing and breaking footage so was surprised to then see YT videos putting before the CST - not that that would change my mind - my thoughts are always my own!! My results were always better after. So, here you get my viewpoint. Might need to do a few easier tutorials next though as I've been busy again....this one took up a LOT of my schedule and KZbin only likes it for about 24 hours!! Dehancer is so worth the money IMO. The brand new negative film grain in 5.3.0 looks great too. Hope you have a good weekend. Darren.
@TheSanjaySathian
@TheSanjaySathian 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn hey Darren when can you put video tutorial on Dehancer pro the whole plug-in how to go about it and how to use it in DaVinci color management as well . Wanna listen from a pro colorist waiting
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSanjaySathian Its one that will come eventually yes.
@GlobalShutterNY
@GlobalShutterNY 11 ай бұрын
I always use the Dehancer node last - it seems the film grain (which it does very organically) only makes sense there - especially if you are doing any NR -the grain has got to mess up the NR algos! And it seems the image should be balanced/exposures adjusted etc before film emulation curves...
@alternativepathproductions2906
@alternativepathproductions2906 10 ай бұрын
Hey guys, Glenn here. I noticed something interesting when messing with a node tree today. I've taken on board the advice of working in the wider Davinci Colour Space with two CSTs. I tried dropping halation on a node right before the second CST (which takes it back to REC.709) and then on a node directly after instead, to see if there was a difference. When in the node before it seems to effect mostly highlights, but in the node after it seems to effect the midtones. Where would you say the best place is to place the halation node (note that I'm using the Halation effect that comes with Davinci)? Cheers.
@alexkline9501
@alexkline9501 2 жыл бұрын
Darren, I never leave comments but I feel compelled to thank you for the absolutely incredible content on this channel. Your depth of experience and knowledge is clearly present in every video you release; I cannot stress how thankful I am to have found your channel. The hard work you are putting in to create informative videos of this quality is not unnoticed!
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Alex. Appreciate your kind words.
@963films
@963films 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate your time and effort put into this tutorial.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@diedevanvree
@diedevanvree 2 жыл бұрын
Love that tip on setting a wider color space for the halation plugin. That makes all the difference.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
glad that helped.
@dez7852
@dez7852 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I a looking for an answer I watch a video or two of yours and get soo much great information. Love the channel!
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dez!
@MrNickMid
@MrNickMid 2 жыл бұрын
A great video that deals with a complex issue in a really clear way. It doesn't hide the complexity of colour science but enables you to get started on a solid base and workflow to then begin colour correction. Thanks for this.
@martinclay7557
@martinclay7557 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Darren. You time and energy are always appreciated.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
thanks Martin. Appreciated.
@unclejezza
@unclejezza 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best Resolve channel on the web. Thanks Darren - always fantastic content 👊😎
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you...very kind!
@alias4239
@alias4239 2 жыл бұрын
I am such a huge fan. It's like watching a really exciting movie. :) I sometimes even get teardrops in my eyes, just by witnessing the GENIUS of your tips! Thank you a lot! Binging all the episodes.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you are enjoying them! Keep an eye on community tab and of course sign up to my free email for free node trees, footage and items coming in the future bit.ly/2RrjvpN Thank you for kind words - tell your friends..! All the best - Darren.
@TeipelFilms
@TeipelFilms 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice in-depth look on the different halation tools! When you first applied the Dehancer tool with the standard settings I was blown away how realistic it was. These tools have really come a long way and you could quite possibly fool people into thinking that this was actually shot on film.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the tutorial Tobias. Dehancer is great - if you decide to buy there is a discount code in the description if that episode too. enjoy
@bigglesoftltd9298
@bigglesoftltd9298 2 жыл бұрын
Professional presentation of fascinating topic, for free. You're the best.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and appreciated. I work hard on these, so it really means a lot when people take time to comment. Thanks again.
@ray.watts-35
@ray.watts-35 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate all the time and effort you've put into this video Darren, very interesting. Will need to re-watch a few times for it all to sink in. I have Studio so will try it out on some of my footage. Many thanks.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
glad it worked for you Ray. Thanks as always for commenting.
@TimGanderPhotographer
@TimGanderPhotographer 2 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine a single occasion on which I will need to add halation, yet found myself glued to this video from start to finish and picked up some useful tips anyway. Thanks!
@LumetTutoriais
@LumetTutoriais 2 жыл бұрын
I was super interested in this effect, thanks for the vídeo, Darren! Greetings from Brazil!
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@MartinH81
@MartinH81 2 жыл бұрын
Such a nice video, your explanations are excellent and cover exactly what one needs to know. Your teaching material is also well chosen.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
It is all very well prepared...I don't just 'knock these out' ... a lot of work goes into making sure maximum gain in minimum time for you the viewer. Appreciate your support and comments that this is noticed.
@Dehancer
@Dehancer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tests, Darren! Quick update - we've released a version for Premiere Pro and After Effects. If anyone wants to test it out, welcome to our website for a two-week trial.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
I'll mention it on my live next Tuesday 7PM BST.
@BigFlavorFilms
@BigFlavorFilms 2 жыл бұрын
Once again, just a fantastic explanation. We use Dehancer too but I'm really liking the editing speed of the built-in effect.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
yes dehancer is slower. The latest version 5.3.0 has ability to choose quality to reduce render times. The resolve halation tool is fantastic anyway.
@Aerolk98
@Aerolk98 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation and in depth review as always Darren! Just discovered Cullen Kelly as you suggested me, would love to see a collaboration of some sorts in the future, you guys bring great industry knowledge tha can't be found on any manual or forum. Keep up the great job!!
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion! Id be happy to do a colab! We are good industry friends anyway - it's a very small community living in a huge YT world, also living in a real world! Love it!
@storyofgio
@storyofgio 2 жыл бұрын
Super usefull! I just started studying color on DaVinci! Thank you for the insight.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! there are lots more if you look at my channel. Even the old ones are only V16 so still very relevant...channel is relatively new still.
@Fuffuloo
@Fuffuloo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I've been using the halation node ever since it came out and I came to the same conclusion you did about where to put it in the node tree. But since I saw a lot of KZbinrs saying to put it at the beginning, I was second-guessing myself. Hearing your perspective on the topic made me feel a lot more confident in my eye and taste as an artist, since I respect you so much as an artist. Also, I've been thinking about buying Dehancer for a while now, and I have a narrative project coming up that could possibly make really good use of it. But in terms of halation I think I've found that I'm happy with just the DaVinci halation node. I'd be more interested in the film emulation side of things. Especially if Dehancer is able to do negative emulation too, in addition to print emulation.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Dehancer has a lot more than just halation of course. Its bloom is especially nice and Imm using it a lot recently. Dont forget you get 10% with code DARREN10 at checkout on dehancer website
@Fuffuloo
@Fuffuloo 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn Ooh thanks for the coupon code!
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fuffuloo very welcome!
@johannadalmede3359
@johannadalmede3359 2 жыл бұрын
Amzing video ! Would love to see an advanced Dehancer video though. But keep it going, it's usefull !
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Coming soon!
@lucariccidj
@lucariccidj 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You great video as alway!Do you have a lesson on HDR or DCI P3 delivery? I just received my Mac Book Pro Max1 64 and it comes with different configuration for the display...DCI P365 ,HDR I need to lear how to configure it when grading in resolve for different colour spaces . Thank You always
@HeliopausePictures
@HeliopausePictures 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, Darren! A very nice exposé on both OFX. Your dive into the details is very helpful. Many thanks. I've been using the old school, homegrown, version of node-based halation for a while and Dehancer is SO much nicer. BTW, I have been grading Artgrid footgage on some projects and the quality is 100x better than expect. Quite the surprise.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott. Took me a long time to dive in deep and really get under the hood of these tools. Artgrid surprised me too....Very clean footage. Birthday congratulations in order I believe too! have a fantastic birthday! - appreciate your support of my stuff on FB too! All the best, Darren.
@HeliopausePictures
@HeliopausePictures 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn Thanks for the birthday wishes. Keep up the fabulous work on YT and beyond!
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
@@HeliopausePictures Hope you having a great night! Will try my best to keep you all entertained on YT!
@GeorgeNicola
@GeorgeNicola 2 жыл бұрын
What would be the best approach to emulate a good photoreal look on a3D animation?
@TheGameChasers
@TheGameChasers 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason your coupon isn't working for me..
@TheGameChasers
@TheGameChasers 2 жыл бұрын
nevermind, I had a space at the end
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Presume you got it working..? DARREN10 All capitals, numbers for the 10, one word, no spaces....and enjoy!
@joyoffilming9500
@joyoffilming9500 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial, Darren - as always.
@MrJhmw01
@MrJhmw01 Жыл бұрын
Im thinking about getting dehancer but wondered what people thought about look designer and colour ai
@burtonfzz
@burtonfzz Жыл бұрын
Wow didn’t expect Dehancer been mentioned, I thought it was a local thing 👀 Pavel Kosenko participated in dehancer plugins development, also got an amazing book “live diginal” in russian about how to handle digital image so it wouldn’t look like film, also they worked on RPP photo color tool for processing RAW images, and STILL in 2023 I mainly use RPP because it gives 100% of control of how raw images are been processed (if you use it you would know that no commercial raw processor is close to how RPP develops raw images. Its hard to use it for video color processing (not impossible, I had a good results with it), but mainly its a raw processing for photos. Also RPP was kinda alfa version product, but still work’s amazingly (but its mac os only). I tried dehancer on early stage of development and for some reason I was not really happy with results, but I think I should give it a try now, I guess. We also discussed halation a lot on a color grading course from film school… If only I could get a remote job as a colorist 😢 in county where I live now there is now market for colorists (they don’t care about any video production at all, I have to work shitty job to be able to have a place to live and food). How it is going in English speaking countries? US? Canada? Is it possible to move and get a job as colorist or people simply not care about picture quality in 2023?
@SethBlackMedia
@SethBlackMedia 2 жыл бұрын
Color grading is a good bit of science as much as it is art. It’s probably my weakest area in video editing, partially because my eyes struggle a little with certain shades red and greens so I have to rely on my scopes. But a lot of work I do has tight deadlines, so mostly boosting the saturation, contrast and fixing any white balance problems has been about the extent of my skill set for coloring footage. However, with DaVinci I’ve really enjoyed the flexibility (although a bit overwhelming at times) it gives me to do things I couldn’t do in previous editing software. I’m still striving to learn new things and want to improve.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
stick with my channel and you'll learn solid techniques. All the best, Darren.
@engraverhand
@engraverhand Жыл бұрын
Again, great video and explanation! You make it sound easy.. which it´s not always true, but with all respect and your experience, you explain it in a very understandable way, so I just have to repeat, practice and study.. Thanks! :-)
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@cashproductionsuk
@cashproductionsuk 2 жыл бұрын
love this program, just bought it, thanks for the discount code!
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome - its a great product! I use all the time
@jordanruzic9477
@jordanruzic9477 Жыл бұрын
Quick question for RED Cameras. I recently subscribed to ArtGrid and I have been practicing color grading and working in these CST workflows. As someone that does not own a RED is the REDWideGamutRGB used for all red cameras? I have been having trouble finding info on what to select. Also, there are various RED options. I would greatly appreciate any help or direction or if there may be some documentation on the internet covering all cameras and conversions. Thanks!
@WildShadowsZA
@WildShadowsZA 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. Thank you, Darren.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@charliedont
@charliedont Жыл бұрын
Do you find removing the rec709 cts before exporting so it remains in Davinci Wide gamut helps with the youtube compression?
@pizzomedia7261
@pizzomedia7261 8 ай бұрын
Your video are very helpful, thank you! Can you do a Dehancer Pro tutorial? Whenever I use Dehancer, especially the film emulations they are way too strong and just don't look modern and natural. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but a tutorial would help.Or maybe you don't recommend the film emulations at all? Thanks!
@londonztoa6359
@londonztoa6359 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Darren, thanks so much for this. Good to know resolve is ‘nearly’ as good. Hard to keep track of the often excellent, sometimes not, number of plugins coming out. Appreciated as always.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! hope you are well!
@avrahampatino2580
@avrahampatino2580 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps I missed this but, is there a way to add A specific color to the helation effect?
@cinema8564
@cinema8564 2 жыл бұрын
Darren; Halation removal??? I have hours of 1956 archive film mostly shot outdoors and, you guessed it, lots of halation. So this problem is not how to create it but how to reduce or remove it. High contrast edge detect and then chroma qualifiers? A Fusion key? Love your work Darren. I check for your latest frequently.
@topicruben
@topicruben Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Darren. Great video 🙏
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@lbmfilmsco
@lbmfilmsco 3 ай бұрын
So would you put halation after the look/LUT compound node as well? In case I'm using a CST to Cineon Film Log + LUT as last node for example. Or should the halation node be place in between the CST to rec.709 2.4 and the compound Look node? Thanks for the video, all love from Brazil.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 3 ай бұрын
now I would put it before LUT or look creation. Hope that helps
@lbmfilmsco
@lbmfilmsco 3 ай бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn It does, tried out myself as well and looks better. Thank you
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 3 ай бұрын
@@lbmfilmsco all good
@squeakingviolin
@squeakingviolin 11 ай бұрын
If I choose the input source to DVR WG/Intermediate, should I put Dehancer node within the Davinci Wide Gamut workflow or after my CST out? And what's the difference between DVR WG/Rec709 and DVR WG/Intermediate? I'm utterly confused...
@zakariaabed3593
@zakariaabed3593 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Thanks for this video so helpful . I want to know why you don't put CST node in the beginning of the node tree ?
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Because it will be clamped to REC709 too early...I want access to the highlights etc as shot.
@diamondfacetsproductions
@diamondfacetsproductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Darren for such great content. Just wanted to find out the difference between the GLOW and the HALATION effects in Resolve color page
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
I have done glow in this episode. Might be worth a watch. Hope that helps. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j36VhmeLqb51fKc
@diamondfacetsproductions
@diamondfacetsproductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn Alright noted
@jackieng5084
@jackieng5084 2 жыл бұрын
love, thank you! Can you help me understand what best export settings are from a PC? I noticed the workflow from mine back to mac users can sometimes look off, especially when they bring back into Premiere. I've tried DNXHR , h.265 or Uncompressed and converted to Pro Res. I've heard dnxhr hqx is best too. What's the best universal settings for it to look similar as it did in Davinci?
@camorgaii9824
@camorgaii9824 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Darren , i used dehancer after my cst node , setting film print kodak2383 , exporting for theatrical , should i just set color tag to dcp gamma 2.6 in the deliver page , or i gotta change output color space in my cst as well as in the color management in the project setting , i'm so confused , would appreciate your help ,
@jd5787
@jd5787 2 жыл бұрын
Dehancer's licence model requires to buy a new license next year? Thank you
@AnjonLimbu
@AnjonLimbu 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Darren 🙌🙌 I got the Dehancer plug-in but I feel like I’m not using it right. Hope you drop the dehancer tutorial soon 😅. Love your tutorials!!
@svenhegenmusic
@svenhegenmusic 2 жыл бұрын
What are your concerns? to be honest I have some mixed feelings about the tool in its current state, but you can create some really cool looks with it and at the moment it's the best film emulation plugin for resolve for the price. Got any questions I can help with?
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be doing something, but not immediately. Its one of my fave plugin.
@Sagar_G_Sharma_ContentCreator
@Sagar_G_Sharma_ContentCreator 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you , that halation was more than what i assumed it was 😄
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Sagar.
@arboreal-coincidence
@arboreal-coincidence 2 жыл бұрын
I love your work, Darren, it’s absolutely top notch and a cut above anything others are doing in the resolve tutorial space. I’d love to see you do a deep dive on colour management and CSTs. I’ve noticed for a time you were using the colour management but have gone back to putting the CST in your node tree… exposure and a bunch of other things seem to behave better “under” the CST. I’ve been flip flopping personally, I liked being able to preview my media pool with the CST applied using colour management, but some things just do seem to behave better under the CST node. I’d love to see you talk about what you like to do before/after a CST and why, and how the DaVinci colourmanaged environment doesn’t give us quite the same flexibility.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. All good comments and noted.
@shebbe
@shebbe 2 жыл бұрын
Are you sure the results are 'better' / more realistic doing it after a CST? It's effect is something that happens on acquisition so to emulate it, it should be scene referred so it can operate on linear data internally which is why it has an input space setting. Otherwise the effects it has on diffuse white is near equal to a light source visible in the camera.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Shebbe. Im basing this on MY personal findings and Im happier with these results. I did a lot of testing!! Spend a long time like I did and see how you get on. It's my personal preference for sure. How it should be is not really documented.
@shebbe
@shebbe 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn Cool, thanks for sharing!
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
@@shebbe you are welcome. Life skill in general - Too much info out there ! Make your own decisions of course based on information you gain in colour world, but test it and then test it again and then, I recommend you test it on other footage too. What works for you and your client is best - maybe not always what you heard from someone else. My practises here seem to go against other videos Ive seen on KZbin with halation, but I'm confident with my findings here. Unless you have a mentor, then listen to them of course...I may not be the perfect tutor but happy to share my findings. All the best.
@JimRobinson-colors
@JimRobinson-colors 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if emulating the process and only caring about one aspect is relevant to a digital representation. In the film days - grain was also in the negative and then in the print, then added to all that was noise in the scanner, and so on. So saying that something was done on acquisition would only be valid if you then emulated every step in the film process before digital. If that was the case to follow the procedure order of operations, then the ISO and filmstock would come first as well and the next thing would be printer lights and setting exposure and the colorist would be done. So the order is as Darren found - a visual representation of a film process as a choice of a visual inspection, is probably as good as any for making that choice. Darren's end result decision as to where it is on the node tree, coincidently matches the opinion of Walter Volpatto as well. I asked Walter personally the same question, and he came to the same conclusion. So the dozens of big cinema features that you have seen that Walter has graded - he prefers in a digital process to have the halation at the end, because baking it in too early potentially can be destructive and incoherent. ( his words ).
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
@@JimRobinson-colors Interesting to hear, and Walter is also a good friend of mine - I have not asked him about this of course. My halation tests here are my own and not based on researching 'youtube' videos but doing my own research on footage. I can honestly say I've learned a lot more from youtube than I expected over the last 18 months but my channel was started to give honest advice based on my broadcast real-world experience and to give viewers a choice who they listen to on KZbin. Follow your instincts...you'll know who's advice is good and solid. It may not be mine, but that's also fine - there are enough channels out there to find the ones you like - I'm here for those that want it! All the best, Darren.
@TudorBaba
@TudorBaba 2 жыл бұрын
Today I learned something new 😊 thanks for doing this tutorial Darren. How often are you using this effect in your real projects?
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Im using Dehancer more and more as I get used to it. Just graded a doc and used the bloom tool very subtle though - a reasonable amount on key interviews (as time permitting) - just one example. Halation on music promos, not really on docs as it needs careful tuning.
@TudorBaba
@TudorBaba 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn thanks!
@irisproductionsprivatelimi6050
@irisproductionsprivatelimi6050 Жыл бұрын
Hello Sir @Darren I hope you're doing well. I just noticed that you're using gamma 2.4 on mac system whereas mostly people (including me) use rec 709a. Can you please clarify which is better to use as I once messed the output colors using gamma 2.4
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn Жыл бұрын
watch my CST videos and colour management videos.
@felibertolorenzo2759
@felibertolorenzo2759 2 жыл бұрын
hello , I have a question .. I have a screenshot from the internet for reference, I import it in Davinci Resolve but in Davinci it doesn't look the same, the colors and contrast look different ... can you help me solve this please ..Thanks.
@willvazquez3218
@willvazquez3218 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I think that if you keep the halation effect too low, you don't even see it. I like it to be more obvious. Halation is clearly visible especially in the classic Eastman 5247 film stock that was used on Rocky, ET, Apocalypse Now, Annie Hall and many more classics. I wish someone would create a really good 5247 emulator.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
As YOU like it - that's how to do it for sure.
@PaulMDiaz
@PaulMDiaz Жыл бұрын
The other day I walked out of a film I saw and said, "wow, did you see that halation!" :) Great video! Would love to know your thoughts on Dehancer as a whole.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn Жыл бұрын
I use dehancer on EVERY job.
@PaulMDiaz
@PaulMDiaz Жыл бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn thanks, but does that mean the other settings or you use “halation”!on dehancer for every job. I’ve tried the trial of dehancer andnits better than film convert but I don’t think I’ve figured out a sweet spot in any scenario.
@CarlBertossi
@CarlBertossi 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder where is this footage coming from? As I see it on other YTber grading tutorial 🤔
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Artgrid. It says that at the beginning of the episode. There is a link in the description for 2 months free if you like it.
@TimetoTalkwithYevgen
@TimetoTalkwithYevgen 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your tutorial, why you don't start with CST in the first node?
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
This is always how I work. Tutorial is about Halation....dont get too worried about it here...CST positioning is big topic, I am a PRO colourist, grading for many many years now - Amazon, Netflix, BBC... and I always do my balance UNDER the CST. My node tree operations need a dedicated episode I guess!
@TimetoTalkwithYevgen
@TimetoTalkwithYevgen 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn thank you, i asked this question because i think Davinci Colour Managed is the same process in a sense as CST, with only difference that it is applied to the whole timeline instead of a clip.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimetoTalkwithYevgen sort of. if you are using davinci colour managed then you dont need the CST in this scenario. Both work. Hope that helps. All the best.
@ego-shooters
@ego-shooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thx for the vid! What your thoughts on this: Could you kind of substitute promist filters with halation in post? To soften up the image a bit? Would be great because I really do not like to use filters a lot when filming.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Promist at source is always going to look better if thats what you want as a look.
@sktx3628
@sktx3628 2 жыл бұрын
The dehancer is also more taxing depending on your hardware. It's crazy how it is significantly more demanding than davinci's built in one
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
I actually find it pretty quick, but yes slower than resolves in built halation, but REALLY quick for a pro plugin.
@blueroomstudiosbury
@blueroomstudiosbury 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Darren, Great video, very helpful indeed...I just have a couple of questions about grading in Davinci, Is it worth buying a screen calibrator for your monitors if you can't afford a Flanders grading monitor...or is this not worth it? ...2nd would ever consider doing a grade tutorial using BRAW 4k Gen5 footage....some great clips on the Black magic website...would be good to see how a pro handles the grade and colour science? Thanks and keep up the good work.
@nagemaakte
@nagemaakte Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, thanks a lot!
@GlobalShutterNY
@GlobalShutterNY 11 ай бұрын
I was wondering if you have any thoughts about using Resolve’s color managed workflow (what I use with Dehancer Pro- using the Wide Gamut Intermediate as the input to the plugin) versus using Dehancer’s built in camera profiles? I prefer letting Resolve do the CST work as it is more flexible when mixing cameras…
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 11 ай бұрын
resolve 100%
@johnnywong83
@johnnywong83 2 жыл бұрын
I would really like to see your workflow on false color during color grading
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
not a huge part of my workflow TBH. I have to work much quicker generally.
@tomdchi12
@tomdchi12 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic - I understand the options and settings much better than I have from just messing around. But the question came to mind, given the wide range of projects you work on, what are examples of projects where you would very much like to use halation, and what sorts of projects do you feel it detracts from?
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
I use it on a music promos as I do a lot of them. Not so much on docs as I dont have the time usually.
@EgorKlimenko-
@EgorKlimenko- 2 жыл бұрын
I always try to use professional color correction in my KZbin videos, but it takes so much time (8 hours per 153 scenes on average). Any tips on how I can speed up this process?🙃
@apmanti12
@apmanti12 2 жыл бұрын
i cant find hlation fx in my davinci? is it added only in a new versions?
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
came in v17.4 I believe.
@apmanti12
@apmanti12 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn oh ok, im on 17.3
@TheSanjaySathian
@TheSanjaySathian 2 жыл бұрын
It will be nice if you do a Dehancer plug-in tutorial and how it can used in project and node level davinci color management (rcm 2)
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
I will do a detailed dehancer one in the future as im really enjoying using it
@TheSanjaySathian
@TheSanjaySathian 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn waiting for that 😻
@valentynabramyuk4854
@valentynabramyuk4854 2 жыл бұрын
Best content!!!
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Valentyn - appreciated.
@marcwielage4678
@marcwielage4678 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree with what Darren says here. This is very close to the way I work, and I would do halation or digital filtration towards the end, maybe in the middle of the node tree after all the basic correction and level changes. Dehancer, Halation, Scatter, and Filmbox are all worth candidates, each with pros and cons -- for filtration only, I vote for Scatter. Film emulation is a murkier subject.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Marc. Good to hear from you. Glad you agree about the position of halation. Ive seen a few YT videos now where its placed at the front and didn't work well for me. Ive heard scatter is a great product. I'll dive more into film emulation in a future episode. Thanks for taking time to comment. All the best, Darren
@ScottGeorgeson
@ScottGeorgeson 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Daren thankyou, Great QUESTION: It would be great to see a video on this... I have been trying to create a color block out over black and white for days.. Its a fight scene, the good guy is in full color and the bad guys are in black and white. I use the Magic mask to mask the good guy... the issue is matching the color between scenes. I thought I would use the Main node with color grade... Then into two parallel nodes, one B/W the other color, each feeding a serial.. One will mask on the good guy, the other inverted to mask the bad guys... from here it goes wrong, The sum throws a blue cast over the B/W and the full saturated node is in the yellow / orange spectrum... if this interests you, I can upload the project and a couple seconds of files for you to see... Cheers, thanks for your explanations, they are they best Ive seen..
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Layer node.
@SeanMiller318
@SeanMiller318 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comps.
@preetdhami4318
@preetdhami4318 Жыл бұрын
can I use Halation Effect without any color space ??
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn Жыл бұрын
yes
@preetdhami4318
@preetdhami4318 Жыл бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn ok thank you
@_eugenechia
@_eugenechia 2 жыл бұрын
hi Darren, thank you for another amazing tutorial! I tried Dehancer and I loved it. However, as a hobbyist (aiming to get clients in future), I am not sure if I wanna shell out that kind of money for this plug-in.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
You might one day...the code will be live for ever, so when you are ready. This is my current fave plugin!! Im using it lots.
@Bert_and_Sons
@Bert_and_Sons 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Darren, great explanation as always 👍 I fully understand the artistic intentions and so on, but a small philosophical topic comes to mind. How much effort and time we put into achieving (good old) imperfection in the era of 12K shooting technology 🙂
@sebastien-desmedt
@sebastien-desmedt 2 жыл бұрын
great !!!
@ramseypietronasser
@ramseypietronasser 2 жыл бұрын
Love this
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you like these...many more coming!
@stradesecondarie
@stradesecondarie 2 жыл бұрын
as usal, great content! thank you!
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@mohamedadnan7310
@mohamedadnan7310 2 жыл бұрын
why I can't use shift and f
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
No idea. Does it not work? Maybe different on PC..?? Im on mac.
@mohamedadnan7310
@mohamedadnan7310 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn iam on macbook m1 pro 14
@bb-ef7ns
@bb-ef7ns 2 жыл бұрын
thank you sir appreciate from china
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
you are welcome.
@Shun_Pon09
@Shun_Pon09 11 ай бұрын
great
@BillStreeter
@BillStreeter Жыл бұрын
Given the cost of Dehancer, I will take your word that it is slightly better. Probably not going to pay for it.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn Жыл бұрын
you can buy just the halation part if you need.
@thekaiser4333
@thekaiser4333 2 жыл бұрын
Good channel. Accepted! Greetings from Berlin
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@thekaiser4333
@thekaiser4333 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn Honour where honour is due.
@thekaiser4333
@thekaiser4333 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn What are you doing apart from YT videos?
@FCPWHAT
@FCPWHAT 2 жыл бұрын
Why bother with CST’s? Just use the Resolve Colour management (especially if just working with RAW), it’s far quicker and does just a good as any CST! I definitely think for the purpose of this demonstration, CST was just excessive information.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 2 жыл бұрын
If you have a workflow that works for you then this is ideal as you can take my workflow and apply to yours so shouldn;t affect RCM or not. I like to show my workflow for transparency and to deliver a full tutorial as to MY preferred settings. It's the most important part of the workflow - what settings I am using are important IMO. If people prefer I just do RCM workflow and go RCM instead of my actual workflow then I'm happy to do too. Let me know in the comments - always listening! Darren.
@equisetuminc
@equisetuminc 11 ай бұрын
@@DarrenMostyn I prefer the CST nodes (with groups) because RCM doesn’t always get it right. Especially if you get a wide range of camera sources. Easy enough to save grades into Power Bins.
@ChouxChoux.Official
@ChouxChoux.Official 21 күн бұрын
Hi Darren, thanks a lot for your videos - I'm slowly working my way through them ahead of my first Log-capable camera purchase. You're teaching style is fantastic and the pace of your videos are just right. I was recently learning about film halation, and was a bit dismayed to learn that Dehancer was $99 for just one effect - then I stumbled across a video which explains halation, it's physical properties, and offers a free powergrade which recreates a more physically correct version of halation. Video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJ7XmXiAr8agh9E Just wondered what your thoughts were on this? Also feel free to delete this comment, I'm aware you make money from affiliation with Dehancer, and don't mean to step on toes.
@DarrenMostyn
@DarrenMostyn 21 күн бұрын
I only support products i use in my broadcast work (BBC, Amazon, Netflix). Dehancers halation is my favourite one. Thanks for the kind words BTW! All the best, Darren
@anishmohant
@anishmohant 2 жыл бұрын
The decades of engineering perfection went into optics and imaging technology trying to remove these artifacts, may RIP🌷
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