Forgot to mention: Make sure you wear an ishiins ring and a ring of casters for the extra 30% damage buff. Oath is oathless Go haunted gale and don't go specter path. You have to use shrine of chance to get exoskeleton if you level fortitude last (otherwise whatever talent you need out of the stat you level) There's a few mistakes in the video on the talent list as I accidently used an outdated list, so ignore stuff like gale coil, suffocating impact and to the finish as you don't qualify for it. Discord: discord.gg/27Ftx5ackt
@TheStarlessUmbra Жыл бұрын
didn’t ishines ring get nerfed to only close range combat?
@HalonicYT Жыл бұрын
@@TheStarlessUmbra yea but you’re usually close range with this build anyway so it doesn’t matter
@variuswolf6612 Жыл бұрын
is blindseer bad for it? 90
@HalonicYT Жыл бұрын
@@variuswolf6612 I don’t think you’d have enough mantra slots to use any of the stuff and you wouldn’t meet the reqs for it
@TheStarlessUmbra Жыл бұрын
@@HalonicYT quick question, which is more efficient for getting gran suda, crypt of unbroken, or hell mode?
@Eoka7860 Жыл бұрын
Great video bc he actually described what should you go for 1st unlike any other build vid
@HalonicYT Жыл бұрын
Ty and yea I hate when ppl just say “go these stats” then don’t say what they’re even for and what to do first to make the prog easier and better
@Theofficialgoon11 ай бұрын
@@HalonicYT so i got cannor raace and I got 2 strength and 2 charisma and I can't change it so does that mean i can't do your build since yours is 1?
@HalonicYT11 ай бұрын
@@Theofficialgoon no you just have to do 3 charisma and 3 strength, I have 1 because my race gives different stats
@shushtidy357711 ай бұрын
and how about the other stats would you keep them the same?
@kaeeeeee.2 ай бұрын
does it still work
@-Rubble- Жыл бұрын
Oh mah gawd!!!! the most detailed scrumptious delicous fire video made my halonic (haven't watched bro since forever)
@HalonicYT Жыл бұрын
Haven’t uploaded since forever lol
@SkiperGripper Жыл бұрын
nice build, its a good take on a gran build and seems pretty easy to prog
@Duranged11 ай бұрын
🤓
@BarrelOath11 ай бұрын
@crzy43 🤓
@wxyvrnthe111 ай бұрын
this or the gale mage pve? (for layer 2)
@AsDrubale-he4sb11 ай бұрын
Progging this is hell, in the middle of it rn
@ayowht464911 ай бұрын
@@AsDrubale-he4sb Its hella easy bro wdym???
@rexarblade751710 ай бұрын
This build is insane, but here is how to do it properly: -PRE SHRINE OF ORDER 1. Go 40 agility for ghost 2. Go 40 fortitude for exoskeleton 3. Go 25 Intelligence for Perfect flash (You can burn or select other rare talents to have a higher chance of getting it) 4. Go 50 willpower then talk to a mystic and select ''I have never lost'' then use shrine of chance to get Underdog 5. Get enough knowledge to use shrine of order (I use starting knowledge and the meteor isle quest) 6. Put 1 point in heavy, charisma and strength to make leveling them up easier and also get less in other stats. -POST SHRINE OF ORDER 7. Go 25 charisma as getting taunt is pure nightmare in my experience 8. Go back up to 25 agility and 20 strength for spine cutter. 9. Level up your galebreath to 75 (You can get some frostdraw to power up and get a wind mantra if you don't have one yet) 10. Get 85 frostdraw for more damage 11. Go 30 heavy so you can use a gran. -NOTES 1. You can get oathless at any time but its good to have it by the time you start getting mantras because it gives 2 extra mantra slots. 2. You can select whichever murmur you want but personally I prefer going ardour despite not being able to get ardour scream on this build. 3. Getting neuroplasticy is required to equip all mantras. 4. If you're struggling to get the knowledge you can go l2 and talk to the ghost. You get knowledge for rejecting the quest. I haven't altered the build itself but just made it up to date and a bit easier to get. If anyone has a better method please let me know and another thing I want to add is if you manage to get another mantra slot I recommend getting glacial arc as it can provide insane movement when combined with gale lunge.
@gati26210 ай бұрын
Thanks, this really helps. Also one small question. At Power 10 with Max Starting Knowledge you have 14 knowledge. To escape The Depths you need to kill an Enforcer (Because you are a Deepbound, I'm not 100% sure though) and I think that if you kill one for the first time you get +1 knowledge. If you kill it you have 15 knowledge. 10 for Shrine of Order and 5 for Shrine of Chance. Then why do I have to do the Meteor Isle quest? I should have enough right? Or am I missing something?
@agazarabderrahmane399810 ай бұрын
ty bro i was so confused
@xdfarmboi670110 ай бұрын
@@gati262at power 10 it’s either sharko or angels I think
@gati26210 ай бұрын
@@xdfarmboi6701 If you are a deepbound (like in this case), the depths trial is always an enforcer (I just tested it myself right now) so by beating it you can get the 1 knowledge you need
@rexarblade751710 ай бұрын
@@gati262 I dont have max starting knowledge and I actually go trial instead of deepbound. if you have 15 knowledge on power 10 then you're all set.
@Sponsorbagel Жыл бұрын
you can also ice skate above the bounder spawns and go onto a little ledge on the left side of the ravine to climb up and still trigger the spawns when ice skating (the ledge is a little past the hole in the wall with the dead diver)
@ReRoji Жыл бұрын
Its great that you explain in what order to get talents and level up stats, most people dont do that but it is really useful. W vid W build
@SyberSMissing11 ай бұрын
i have a question in the build link it says u get 50 willpower and power up to 10. im at 38 willpower and i have 4 points to power 10 ?
@ReRoji11 ай бұрын
@@SyberSMissing pretty sure shrine of order gives you points back.
@kaeeeeee.2 ай бұрын
does this build still work
@ReRoji2 ай бұрын
@@kaeeeeee. its really old so you should propably find a different one. While i had it it was great though.
@kingsleechabot12762 ай бұрын
Hey same guy different acc do you know any frost builds that can 1 cycle cant really find any but I really like frost it could be a dual attainment build but I want it mainly frost and I’m decently new so kinda tanky
@expomkr750611 ай бұрын
Pro Tip: Before shrine go Agility, Fortitude, and Intelligence in that order and 50 willpower next, This makes it so you have a higher chance for Exoskeleton. You can guarantee get Underdog with Mystic at Shrine of Chance when you hit 50 willpower. All the willpower talents you need you can get in this method while having a higher chance for Exoskeleton
@leozin764311 ай бұрын
can you explain better the way to get underdog?
@expomkr750611 ай бұрын
@@leozin7643by getting 50 willpower last and using Mystic dialogue option “I have never lost.” And then going to Shrine of Chance at Fort Merit to guarantee get it.
@beensoja11 ай бұрын
but when i hit 50 willpower i need to level up what do i do
@expomkr750611 ай бұрын
use mystic and use the shrine of chance at fort merit you dont have to power up@@beensoja
@alexjpeg111 ай бұрын
use the shrine at Fort Merit to reroll some talents, that's what I did @@beensoja
@bigfloppa8887 Жыл бұрын
This man has done it. He has cooked a build that is not only on par but probably better than skipper gripper's god slayer v3 pve build. Truly a sight to behold.
@twey2976 Жыл бұрын
probably isnt better, just a tiny bit worse because of the fact that skipper gripper gets chaser to 0 hp one cycle and can grip him.
@repel3202 Жыл бұрын
@@twey2976skipper gripper also spent 3 weeks making his build. ☠️
@QuantumFr Жыл бұрын
@@repel3202so what does this mean this build is good but skipper gripper build is better
@asphyxiatedwhu Жыл бұрын
Both are good make whatever which u want
@SkiperGripper Жыл бұрын
oh?
@ltsMvrs Жыл бұрын
I love this editing style Halonic, I'm truly proud of your growth as a friend. Good job man and love you bro
@PoplosionАй бұрын
thank you for actually showing the build unlike other youtubers who actually hide it behind their discord server
@HalonicYT15 күн бұрын
Never understood why people hide builds behind that, people aren't gonna stay in the server once they get the build lol, me personally I just join grab the build and leave.
@Poplosion15 күн бұрын
@HalonicYT make more please 🙏🏿
@slaikall19811 ай бұрын
love it, im pretty sure its THE BEST unliked all of these bad once out there when u search up best pve build thanks a lot for sharing it
@spidercreepers66499 ай бұрын
Heres all the talents he listed in the video ( i probably misspelled like 2 ) kick off perfect flash wyverns claw gale coil suffocating impact conditioned runner enduranced runner caredy cat carnivore batlle tendency braced collapse firmly planted moving fortress giant slayer evasive expert ghost risky moves swift rebound underdog charismatic cast tough love heavy hitter chilling flourish fragile freeze cryostasis duelist dace spine cutter elemental robound charged return magical resolve nullifying clarity fishman exoskeleton to the finish frostdraw unbounded adept frostdrawe cold front expert frostdrawer glacial ice master frostdrawer orbital ice galebreathe unbounded adept galebreather expert galebreather galebreather mastere galebreather after cut breathing impact inhale neuroplasticity crystal shrapnel glass path: crystallization cryonis air pressure wind step last resort old habits die hard thresher claws thresher scales breathing exercise conquer your fears chain of perfection health pack lootskipper armor conserver gourmand hardened nerves fast blade oathless family recipe pocket bombs a world without song silencers blade bloodiron spirit grasp on reality blade dancer speed demon scuba drowner metador warriors swing haunted gale
@lordhell_sama4 ай бұрын
thanks man i was looking for this
@echkox4 ай бұрын
Appriciate it man
@commondeepwoken9 ай бұрын
this build is insanely good and the video is SUPER well made. props to you man! probably my favorite and most fun pve build yet
@Toka_Taboo6 ай бұрын
holy shit, a build video that doesnt require joining a discord to see the stats? you're a real one dude
@Morkii-or4sc7 ай бұрын
love the build bro keep up the amazing work and thanks for being so descriptive!
@kxnno6 ай бұрын
the build still good?
@giornogunnava258510 ай бұрын
GRAN PVE BUILD race: vesparain (any race works just try to find one that starts with 0 intel as starting artibuite) go 40 aglity for ghost and then 50 willpower for underdog, then go intelligence for perfect flash then 40 for exo then go 1 strenth, 1 charisma, and 1 wepon 1 ice and 1 gale ***SHRINE*** then 25 agiilty and 20 strength for spine cuttter then get 75 gale and get ice to 65 for orbital ice and glass path, then lvl charisma to 25 for taunt and tough love, finally 85 ice for crystal shrapnel and more m1 and mantra damage , and 30 heavy for gran (27 if khan) the mantras to use are taunt, wardens blade, forzen servants, ice cubes, wind passage, gale trap, astral wind, gale lunge, and ice skate. Make sure to go 6 vitality and 6 songchant Forgot to mention: Make sure you wear an ishiins ring and a ring of casters for the extra 30% damage buff. Oath is oathless Go haunted gale and don't go specter path. You have to use shrine of chance to get exoskeleton if you level fortitude last (otherwise whatever talent you need out of the stat you level) There's a few mistakes in the video on the talent list as I accidently used an outdated list, so ignore stuff like gale coil, suffocating impact and to the finish as you don't qualify for it.
@bountyys10 ай бұрын
How will I fill out needed mantras if I start leveling after 10 I always have empty slots
@zZzoien9 ай бұрын
@@bountyys mystic
@danielbrown709010 ай бұрын
what a clear video damn,you deserves the sub
@Skykiki-jw8wm Жыл бұрын
Proud to see u back
@Bencchi8 ай бұрын
This is my first ever proper pve build... I've finally finished it and I like it very much.
@adioshakil27746 ай бұрын
not dealing that much damage tho
@xxdrip_gokuxx32065 ай бұрын
(pick 5 frost 6 gale)character creation ======================================= 40 agility 50 willpower 25 int 40 ftd ========================== Shrine ========================== 25 agility 20 str 75 gale 65 frost 25 charisma 85 frost 30 heavy for gran (27 if khan)
@MateenSadiki2 ай бұрын
wait im a khan but whenver i try do the build i cant since u need 1 strength in the beginning of the build but i always have 3 strentth please3 any tips
@zoldyckGKL2 ай бұрын
@@MateenSadikido 4 strength and 42 agility if khan and only 27 heavy wep
@IamKayfr9 ай бұрын
Please do more vids like this where your break down your builds it’s really helpful. Probably one of the most helpful vids
@dough786411 ай бұрын
isshins ring contributes to the damage cap on the builder and it adds roughly 1-2% damage instead of the 1.25x it says it does
@gavynegoldsmith4791 Жыл бұрын
This build got me back on deep woken i love your content
@litfest4532 Жыл бұрын
Walter white needs to hire this guy, he's the cook!
@HalonicYT Жыл бұрын
I am the cook
@kono_633810 ай бұрын
please make more build videos, the way you described how to make the build was so informative. Really easy to follow and whatnot, thanks man
@SantiagoTulad11 ай бұрын
What did u modify warden blades with?
@itzzwuulferz82969 ай бұрын
As someone who's made this build and wiped it, I'd say go for prof instead of of vitality, it's squishy but that extra damage helps ALOT.
@Sm0ckY-kg10 ай бұрын
what mods u add to your mantras and gems?
@dashmaloo24009 ай бұрын
Anything that will make them bigger/increase mobility
@marquiewprince2843 ай бұрын
Its so crazy to me cause to this day i dont see any other pve build(except the dilluvian brick walls obv) that i truly want to make
@kitsunefx505911 ай бұрын
the pre shrine stats don't make sense for the post shrine stats I put in the pre shrine stats from the deepwoken builder and doesn't work
@Newbie123153 ай бұрын
same
@Uchigucci2k Жыл бұрын
W video and great build
@DeepdelverSushi Жыл бұрын
It's not the best whitout the ignition union origin
@HalonicYT Жыл бұрын
It'll get added soon... I know it will.
@DeepdelverSushi Жыл бұрын
@@HalonicYT insert aizen meme
@xolowoffu Жыл бұрын
@@DeepdelverSushiwazukyan
@Parzivize Жыл бұрын
oml this is cold - have you tried using tornado? the pve damage on that mantra is absolutely disgusting
@davidcampo3035 Жыл бұрын
Get isshin ring, you deal 20% more dmg in exchange for being dealt 25% damage taken
@FuryNotFurryYT Жыл бұрын
it's affected by damage cap and even without most the modifiers the build still hits the softcap, meaning it'd only give 10%
@davidcampo3035 Жыл бұрын
If it works then it works 😼
@QTSPrime9 ай бұрын
I like the detail you give. You earned a sub and like from me pal
@justaguyontheinternet38935 күн бұрын
Finally someone who gives no bs and doesnt ask for money, tysm
this build is probably even better with ice flock considering that it seems very good for pve and you can replace ice skate with it
@leveldetermined11 ай бұрын
ice skate makes layer two 3 times quicker
@anatgac9 ай бұрын
40agl -> 50 wp -> 25 int -> 40 fort. PRE SHRINE 25 agl and 20 str -> 75 Gale -> 65 Frost -> 25 cha -> 85 Frost -> 30 HVY (27 if u're Khan) POST SHRINE
@qxalitys9 ай бұрын
thx pookie
@DavidFreitas-n4q9 ай бұрын
hey, love the build bro, but what do you think about raising int to 40 or 50 to get overflowing dam?
@youneskacimi77468 ай бұрын
Overflowing dam is basically useless unless on a silentheart build. Because you know you’re using your mantras all the time, right ?
@Teodill3 ай бұрын
A perfect video for build showcase
@variuswolf6612 Жыл бұрын
I love u so much made a pve ACC and when I was gonna try in layer 2 I got jump so imma try this thx u
@lolnah1992 Жыл бұрын
tbh, the only reason why i would still go the flame ice build, is just cuz i like having graceful flame
@jnhnmk6 ай бұрын
guys if u want to get exoskeleton at power 10 then u need a race with its innate stat as fort or will or agi or int. otherwise u cant get 40 fort last
@dough786411 ай бұрын
My pve recently wiped in layer 2 cause of the ice lance guys, I'm gonna try this one out cause it looks very promising
@thadb147711 ай бұрын
would dawnwalker be > than oathless if you swapped frozen servants for blinding dawn or whatever the spin kick move is? that way you proc absolute radiance & luminous flash to boost
@LiIRanger9 ай бұрын
what shows how op this build is, he doesn't use ardour scream
@Bryan._YT3 ай бұрын
soo much love ez build and its also a good ass build thxx!
@azex825711 ай бұрын
The fact that this build takes less than a day to max out is crazy... good build tysm!
@entity332311 ай бұрын
did u use the 3 free talent hands to get exo
@spoooof969811 ай бұрын
@@entity3323 you can use shrine of chance to roll it, but you're gonna have to get an extra 5 knowledge (btw it's guaranteed to get exoskeleton)
@spoooof969811 ай бұрын
you need to reroll a rare talent to get a hand of cards of only rare cards @@entity3323
@azex825711 ай бұрын
@@entity3323 wdym?
@icakefn738611 ай бұрын
@@spoooof9698 but how do you get the knowledge back without leveling up
@dayoayodele4404 Жыл бұрын
The halonic pve build... glorious
@Crimson0047 Жыл бұрын
Ngl, I love these frost builds ppl are making now for PVE, I might try to combine the Zuukle one with this one, mainly bc I may or may not love gale...
@HalonicYT Жыл бұрын
Yea frost is really good in pve and gale is so nice for the mobility and also damage as well since you get inhale and good mantras
@Crimson0047 Жыл бұрын
Inhale is heavily underrated in PVE, it buffs your mantras (gale only) and with aftercut also buffs m1 dmg because why not, which over all increases the total dmg output at once.
@Souls_Zero11 ай бұрын
hey just wanted to ask how do you get that font for roblox? it looks really cool
@prev83749 ай бұрын
Bloxstrap
@linkymaster371911 ай бұрын
probably the best build guide ive ever watched
@reeli905310 ай бұрын
very great video :] just one question, has this been nerfed in any way?
@geozosu974711 ай бұрын
Great build! What deep gems do you put on the mantras?
@Harrahi Жыл бұрын
SAME PERSON WHO TAUGHT ME CASTLE ROCK
@jasonrocks181811 ай бұрын
pro tip go 30 int for etherconduit for sm nice extra dmg
@indonesianquandaledingle11019 ай бұрын
great video
@SunTzu56110 ай бұрын
Is it okay if I get ardour for this build. I got 3 aces so I should be fine with other talents
@Ariadrive8 ай бұрын
2:08 did you mean going with a race without charisma? Your pre-shrine stats has no charisma but 25 intel
@BluLocalPatio8 ай бұрын
I did Adret, the build seems fine, you need 5 in a stat to start getting talents anyway.
@copiumcal Жыл бұрын
ngl you should add tornado it’s an insane mantra for pve
@thefunnymanfromamazon37411 ай бұрын
just got done making this build and it does indeed 1 cycle ethiron and chaser W build fr
@hehexd933511 ай бұрын
how ?
@liamkahin8162 Жыл бұрын
What's the bell you are using for the build ? or recomendations ?
@kalango1579 ай бұрын
u actually dont need a bell for this build but i recommend if u want, payback or sacred field
@youneskacimi77467 ай бұрын
Now that wisps are considered as their own category, do i grab gale wisp ? And is it worth it to only get 80 frost and get 30 agl post shrine to get the aerogliding ?
@robyroby366511 ай бұрын
for the talents do you have all in that list or the ones with the symbols next to them?
@yxslayerz9 ай бұрын
I can replace wind lunge with tornado? Or wind lunge is better for this build?
@t_oaster67379 ай бұрын
@HalonicYT shouldnt specter path be better since you can summon the ghost for extra damage instead of the winded status effect?
@BluLocalPatio8 ай бұрын
I think you should use this build as a base as I think this build is kinda old, so go whatever you want, just make sure you get some important talents, as exoskeleton isn’t as effective post shrine due to certain nerfs to shrine of order builds. The pre-shrine is good for talents, modify post shrine to your own liking.
@aaronhimejima51205 ай бұрын
should you do vow of thorns on this build im going deepbound?
@plsno-l5w11 ай бұрын
whats ur font tho looking good
@xelphyr9175 Жыл бұрын
when the world needed him he spun back
@Mudiest11 ай бұрын
my jaw dropped when u one cycled the miniboss at the bridge
@needy837311 ай бұрын
so question is there anyway to get all the cards without using the shrine or is it like the only way to do it if you can't exo before pow 10?
@expomkr750611 ай бұрын
exo isnt required
@endlessscp461110 ай бұрын
But it's always nice to have @@expomkr7506
@RealBuu101310 ай бұрын
i love how he explained how to do it since im a noob, theres not many videos showing what do to in order and i get confused on what people say
@Stayca1mVIE11 ай бұрын
Would you make a vid using this build to run layer 2 floor 1 and 2 cuz I wanna see how you do it
@thegreatapehimself28819 күн бұрын
what origin do you recommend?
@HalonicYT15 күн бұрын
Divers, allows you to use the antiquarians and campfires which is quite handy
@thegreatapehimself28815 күн бұрын
@@HalonicYTthank you
@thegreatapehimself28811 күн бұрын
@@HalonicYT do you have any tips to help me out alittle?
@psycholexic11 ай бұрын
yo hows ur ingame font like that
@lordhell_sama4 ай бұрын
hey im having trouble building this build its my first build so i do not know what to do right now i have felinor race and everytime i shrine of order my stats do not come out how i want them like int is not 18 and stuff i do not know what im doing wrong but when i tried it with vesperain in build maker it worked so can anyone help me ?
@rafaelr-o193810 ай бұрын
Do we need crystalisation cuz on clip you did for the one cycle boss you dont have it?
@mathyou00 Жыл бұрын
In today’s meta it could also be an extremely good pvp build! (Nerf ice and gale spectre)
@cactus800311 ай бұрын
is this build great for diluvian mechanism? (because it doesn't have brick wall)and can i go for dawnwalker cuz blinding dawn do a ton of pve dmg and black flash double my m1 dmg
@ezdubfrfrfrfr8 ай бұрын
its kinda mid of diluvian but u can probably get to around waves 20-25 bcuz of spamming mantras
@Check_aniMate Жыл бұрын
Quick question, where you at navae camp the other day and someone was dropping you gens and there was a frost heroblade? Cuz Istg someone looked like you 😭
@Zappersss2 ай бұрын
i cant get exoskeleton if i dont have 40 fortitude before shrine of chance right? i guess ill be missing out on that 10% damage resistance. but i should be fine for the most part sadly.... not the complete and best build. i rushed it a little i guess :c
@cozodeepwoken Жыл бұрын
why the music at the start lowkey go hard
@Negatron6127 ай бұрын
What bell did you go or what bell is best for the build?
@toxicclan56810 ай бұрын
forgot to mention if u get observation u cant get ghost
@EvanPoulson-r1g11 ай бұрын
If I’m not at the point where I can one cycle chaser yet, do I use taunt on him every cycle or just the first one?
@MatasLoda10 ай бұрын
what modifiers and gems do you use for your mantras?
@eleyleft Жыл бұрын
This dude COOKED.
@suffer987311 ай бұрын
How did u edit your font like that make a tutorial fr
@nocluewhatthisis79589 ай бұрын
why did you not have crystallization in your showcasing at the beginning?
@youneskacimi77468 ай бұрын
Red ice isn’t that old. Had the same color before.
@Daampie9 ай бұрын
I messed the build up 3 times and wiped i got depression from it😂
@TheTemptational5 ай бұрын
is it ok if i switch out oathless for dawnwalker? would that change anything?
@killerdabmaster8 ай бұрын
starting song: A shop that only sells you things you dont need
@Geustt Жыл бұрын
holy I actually gain knowledge from this
@domsmash83 ай бұрын
this was 8 months ago so im wondering if you update this can you make it better?
@trolledlol222811 ай бұрын
Is crystallization good for hellmode
@ogibbou5876 Жыл бұрын
Bro truly cooked with this one
@HalonicYT Жыл бұрын
ty
@abousesay423 Жыл бұрын
Im new to deepwoken and how these origins work, is deepbound required for this build to work? Or is that just since you're in Layer 2?
@HalonicYT Жыл бұрын
You don’t need deepbound I just like it because it lets you use the npcs in castle light like the sell and bank npcs as well as letting you teleport there on command with an item in your inventory
@abousesay423 Жыл бұрын
@@HalonicYT Oh aight, another question with weapon. I know heavy is used to make up for the damage, but If I wanted to run something like medium, could I? Would it majorly sacrifice damage or ruin the build?
@abousesay423 Жыл бұрын
@@HalonicYT I have two questions then. First is, if I decided to put stats into weapon first, how would that affect the build post Shrine of order? And two, If I wanted to go medium weapon instead, would it tank the build entirely?
@thereaper2063 Жыл бұрын
@@abousesay423Hey as far as stats go, the most important thing about them is the talents you get from each respective stat so putting it in weapon first would make you miss out on a lot of talents, forcing you to farm knowledge for shrine of chance (u can replace ur talents) I’m not sure how much would medium affect the builds tho :(