You're are probably the only one who has a deep dive into mesh-heads! This is valuable and interesting. 💪 Good work! 😎
@levig-man41034 жыл бұрын
Jonas Damith I am also very thankful for that !
@mikeevangelista11775 жыл бұрын
I’ve got 3 kids 2 and 11 month old twins so I turned my bop kit into a silent kit mesh heads on top and low volume ride n hats it’s a life saver I can play them whenever and it’s not a bother to anyone. It’s not my ideal choice I have some amazing gear that I look at and talk to now ha haaaaa and every now and then get to play but for the time being the low volume kit has saved the day. Great video I found everything you said to be true after messing with them
@grayknight83610 ай бұрын
Great idea 💡 to put the mesh drumheads on the bottom as well if you want it super quiet 🤫! Didn’t really think about that. 👍🏻
@carlosleon95805 жыл бұрын
Loved the “Sounds like a drum” PLUG/pun 🤣👍🏼👌🏽
@shalaq5 жыл бұрын
Couple of things to add 1. Use them as resos to get a two head look with a single head sound. Works especially well for bass drums. 2. I used these heads with normal resos and used gaff tape or duckt tape or packing tape on the mesh heads. A strip of tape on the drum makes some air actually go and excite the reso head more and give the drum more projection. On the snare use a strip of tape on the mesh head right above the snares to excite them more. After some experimentation you can achieve a sound that is good for quiet rehearsal and singer songwriter gigs.
@Dusther2105 жыл бұрын
Yea, what Shalaq said! I use mesh heads to practice at home and also I play once a week in a small room in NYC. I tried everything, brushes, hot rods and an electric kit. But the ticket was mesh batter heads with a square of duct tape in the center of the snare and a strip of tape on the other drums. Of the 4 kits I play on every week that is my favourite. It can really get the room moving without overwhelming the space and I can quickly turn it into a practice/lesson kit
@Eurodrummer6665 жыл бұрын
I love the sound you are getting using normal reso heads.
@mikeandningraines70275 жыл бұрын
I actually converted an acoustic Yamaha drum set into a hybrid electronic set using the Remo version of these mesh heads. I just had to buy 5 Roland triggers and it worked perfect with my TD-30 Roland brain. Thanks again for another awesome video and your totally correct, plastic beater is the only thing to use on the mesh bass drum head, I just use the plastic beater that came with my V-drums.
@pascal_thielen5 жыл бұрын
I have a practice kit with mesh heads. I experimented with different towels and ended up using a towel underneath the bass drum head. This gives the kick drum a very pleasant and realistic sound and reduces bounce. On the snare, I also have one on top of the head. Feels good!
@Tom_TNP2 жыл бұрын
How do you attach the towel underneath the head?
@Medievalfan944 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah... I am playing on my meshhead set for a while now. A few days ago I just got my accoustic snare out of the shelf and hit it. Dang, accoustic drums are LOUD!!!
@a.j.wilkes63525 жыл бұрын
Quiet practice tips for apartments living have benefitted me as "Father of sleeping babies" for evening practicing.
@cbeach24 жыл бұрын
This was such a great resource. Thank you for being so detail oriented, and friendly!
@secondsbeforelanding5 жыл бұрын
I use both the Roland mesh drums as well as standard acoustic drums. I found this variation of using the heads very informative. Another great video.
@veganpunxforlife5 жыл бұрын
I use a mesh head as my kick reso. It gives the sound of no reso head, it's loud as shit but still keeps a little bit of air inside so it's not totally dead. I love it
@kushking4205 жыл бұрын
That's a very interesting idea, I've never seen a bass drum set up that way.
@veganpunxforlife4 жыл бұрын
@David Calderon I'm not sure it would reduce the volume. It greatly increases the volume of my kick drum with the mesh head on the reso side. That's one of the main reasons why i use it.
@ryanwilson59362 жыл бұрын
@@veganpunxforlife This actually goes along with another SLAD video about getting a good metal kick tone and their conclusion was basically to not have a reso head at all. I imagine using a mesh head as a bass reso head would simulate the “no reso head” sound while retaining some air pressure inside the drum itself. Neat stuff!
@RockerBug17 Жыл бұрын
I put mesh heads on the reso side and just flip the drums when I want to practice.
@Mikesdrumchannel-kj8qv4 ай бұрын
I was checking out the Evan DB1 heads and they seem like the best solution. They don't have over the top rebound like plain mesh heads and they also have more tone.They are also a bit louder so that may be an issue for some. The big issue for everyone is that they are expensive. Since the way they achieve more tone and more 'real head' rebound is through adding impact pads and foam, you might be able to save some money by buying some cheaper 2 ply mesh heads from China and adding your own impact pads and foam. Personally, I wouldn't even consider spending $200 on DB1 heads. I spend enough on regular heads.
@mrski49453 жыл бұрын
I use pearl rhythm traveler mesh heads on my practice kit along with Zildjian LV80 cymbals. I LOVE it!! Sounds more quiet than my old Roland TD-7K electronic kit. Mesh heads and low volume cymbals have turned practice into something I look forward to everyday!
@georgejohnson20465 жыл бұрын
I have my kit at church outfitted with three ply mesh heads. You can tune them hard or soft. I have internal triggers in the drums and I’m using a vst through the PA. It’s nice having a full size kit but have the perfect sounds from the vst. I use Roland and ATV ecymbals. Acoustically the three ply mesh heads will give you more tone out of the drum but I use them to convert an acoustic kit to full electronic. I use a vst instead of sounds from a drum module. I get tons of compliments from the looks and the superb sounds of the vst. Sound engineers love me too!!
@jaredmcintosh41785 жыл бұрын
Mesh heads are also great for drum triggering.
@marvinpues5 жыл бұрын
I think the mesh heads are great, but requires changing heads. I use my kit to gig and practice. I went with the RTOM black hole mesh pads that sit on my toms and snare combined with Zildjian low volume cymbals for practice. The Black Hole pads do allow for your tuned drum to resonate at a very low volume. Sounds and feels good enough, and I can easily play full volume by a quick cymbal swap and removing RTOMs. My family barely knows I'm playing, and I can hear everything to my satisfaction. Main down side was cost ($600 for cymbals and pads) so the cymbal mutes and mesh heads are a much more economical route. Good video.
@GlitchComputer5 жыл бұрын
Honestly your videos never fail me. SO SOLID!!!
@elijahfaith74805 жыл бұрын
I've never tried or even seen them before so this is a new to me...very interesting..thank you for the lesson 😊👍🇨🇱🥁
@awfulbasscovers68955 жыл бұрын
Personaly I combine mesh heads with cymbal dampers and anti vibration carpet. The kind you put below washing machines. Perfect for neighbors.
@DadDoingStuff3 жыл бұрын
Who gives this a thumbs down? This is EXACTLY the info I was hoping to find. Thanks man! Great video! 🤘🏼🤘🏼
@richardkeith25454 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very informative without a bunch of necessary BS.
@LordSnoodles4 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation, editing, and tone on this video. Cheers.
@danox90434 жыл бұрын
i would say.. this is one of the best Reviews EVER!!
@johnburkhalter38805 жыл бұрын
You can get a little more tone from these by adding an adhesive such as tape or felt to the mesh batter. I found some adheaive felt circles on Amazon and attached to the underside. Only slightly increases the volume, but greatly enhances the tone.
@davegink9222 Жыл бұрын
I do the same thing. Put some tape on the outer edges. It adds extra tone. Also put center dots on mine. Feels much more like an acoustic head. It makes it just slightly louder, but sounds more like a drum.
@AtTheSourceStudios5 жыл бұрын
Hehe nice plug 6:30
@rockdrummer805 жыл бұрын
I had mesh heads on my 13,16,18,24 and 14 snare. Worked great. In my opinion all your tone is coming from the reso heads. Drums sound the same but lower volume with mesh batter. To get rid of the bounce in the kick I filled the bd with a lot of pillows and used Evans bd patch. gives enough thump with attack and with pillows resting up against the mesh head eliminates the bounciness and gives the kick a more natural feel.
@ned_potter4 жыл бұрын
You mention going higher side of medium - I'd recommend going higher side of high! For my low volume kit I've found the higher the reso the more tone from the mesh batter...
@Fab_Rice5 жыл бұрын
You can put rubber protection on the rim too, so rim shot are not extra loud. ;) Nylon stick help too for durability.
@rappidog5 жыл бұрын
I've used mesh heads with transducers mounted inside the shells.... linked up with a midi connection, to Addictive Drums from XLN Audio,, gives you great drum sounds that are controllable and are great thru headphones,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
@BatManWayneCorp Жыл бұрын
Having played electric drums at church for years, it's really crucial to find a quiet Basedrum Pedal. Generally I've found that a double chain helps a ton, as does having a baseboard instead of this V-rod that makes the pedal collapsible
@inkeye15 жыл бұрын
Always timely. I'd say if you only have one kit then use mutes of some sort (I don't like the feel or sound but it is quiet). Mesh heads are really quiet, even with resos and you can coax a little more volume out of them by putting a strip of painters tape on them. I only have one kit so I am using a mesh head on my snare but not on my toms or kick. I'm using a Tama Soft Sound beater on my kick instead of a mute or mesh head. My toms have Evans Sound Off mutes on them. This isn't ideal but it works as it is better than not practicing at all. Low volume cymbals work well with this setup. I can practice at night while my son is asleep upstairs.
@marvinpues5 жыл бұрын
I’m in the same boat as you (single kit, and wife and kids) so I went with the RTOM Black Hole mesh pads that sit on top of drums. Better feel than Sound Off, can keep heads on, and drums are similar volume to mesh heads.
@RaulGarcia-bq1og3 жыл бұрын
Cody, great video. I just bought a set of mesh head for my drums. I found that using a 4 inch Remo Falam Slam on the inner side of the mesh head can improve the feel. And for the bass drum, also put the Falam Slam on the outer side of the mesh head and use a Vic Firth Fleece Beater. Just an idea for a video on how to improve the feel on silent kits!
@jamesfulmer70805 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've been drumming for little over a year now and have come to love mesh heads and Zildjian L80 cymbals. The L80 cymbals are fantastic because they feel like real cymbals (because they are) and they sound like real cymbals but 80% lower volume. I have two drum sets in my man cave. One loud kit and one practice kit with the mesh heads. My wife sleeps two doors down and usually doesn't hear them. I play till 2 or 3 in the morning. When she's gone during the day I play my loud kit. Definitely use an impact patch on the bass drum or the head will wear out fast. I actually use an Aquarian super pad on the bass.
@mrbtapir5 жыл бұрын
Have you played zildjian gen16 cymbals? I've got them and I'm just wondering how much quieter the l80s are. The gen16s can kick out some volume still.
@jamesfulmer70805 жыл бұрын
mrbtapir, I played on one at my local Guitar Center. It was louder and brighter.
@matthewsherman97655 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking these could make a great concert Tom out of any kit.
@WhippperSnaperater5 жыл бұрын
I have mesh heads and regular resos on my kit. I find that I have touble getting a nice snare response, granted my drum is cheap and my wires are original, and that the bass doesn't put out much sound without a patch. If you buy Remo though, the bass heads come with one. Overall though, they're a solid would recommend.
@bobisadrummer5 жыл бұрын
I've read that putting some tape on the mesh heads (when using normal reso heads) allows for even more tone without increasing the volume very much.
@barb00875 жыл бұрын
It does. I put tape on all of my mesh heads on my acoustic. I mic it through my mixer and use headphones. It almost sounds like the real deal! Gorilla tape seems to work the best. For my kick, I put a couple of strips with a flam pad over the tape. This makes the kick sound and feel more realistic.
@tueblom81815 жыл бұрын
I've been doing this for years, it works wonders! I use one long piece of duct tape across the head right where the logo is (so i dont hit the tape). I put it on before the head is applied, so the tape stretches when i tune.
@lutzmackenstedt2493 жыл бұрын
There are meshheads with different „densitys“, denser > louder. You also can adjust the volume by using patches on the backside.
@danalnajes3 жыл бұрын
I used the Remo Silent stroke Version and I love it I have the same Set up with wires on the Bottom I tune the Bottom heads a Lil tight but I keep the Top Medium and wires are semi loose to keep The head happy :) Remo's Version is from there Ambassador Series witch made my Buy them in the First place...
@vitogobbo93389 ай бұрын
Thanks very helpful info for what im into at the moment!
@CPMForceobsessor5 жыл бұрын
Got my first acoustic set earlier this year after about two years of having an e-kit. Wish I had even considered mesh heads for it before buying all the normal heads. :P I still find myself practicing on the e-kit instead of the acoustic one because I'm not that confident, and this would have been a much better alternative. Guess I know what I'm doing next time I replace the heads.
@pedroparkeprod7 ай бұрын
Putting a strip of painters or gaffer tape gives the mesh heads more tone. Play around with the length of tape since it does increase volume a bit but makes playing more enjoyable. I noticed the mic picked up the drum stick scratching the mesh head so I put a patch of tape in the middle to prevent it and made it feel more realistic. You could actually make pretty good recordings paired with low volume cymbals.
@flanagansrage78855 жыл бұрын
As someone who uses low volume heads and cymbals id highly recommend adding a shit load of tape or better yet paper then tape on the centre of the snare drum makes it's sound alot more snarey without adding too much volume
@BryceChristopherHodge5 жыл бұрын
I have an old Roland TD-20 with the mesh head kick pad and it ate through my felt beater pretty quickly. I would more-strongly-than-Cody-did recommend investing in a wood or plastic beater for use with mesh heads on a kick drum. Thanks for another fun video, guys!
@C0zyDunt5 жыл бұрын
I us an Evans EQ pad on my TD20. That can save your felt beaters.
@nate66924 жыл бұрын
Wish you'd done a set with L80's - I'd love to hear how L80's balance with the diploweight heads.
@alfredmorrone70293 жыл бұрын
I have lv80s and discovered by accident these so called glow in the dark sticks, made of soft plastic/rubber, not 100% certain, bring out much sounds than wood or nylon tip sticks.
@spencerj5 жыл бұрын
I’d love to hear your thoughts on electronic drums. Do you think they get close enough to the natural feel of acoustic drums
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
That’s incredibly subjective and is really something best decided by the user. I don’t see electronic drums and trying to be acoustic drums any more than an electric guitar trying to be an acoustic guitar (despite the fact that e-drums are often used as a low volume alternative). It’s a different instrument just like a keyboard vs. a piano. -Ben
@maeu593 жыл бұрын
@@ivoncraig I have a Roland kit ands it’s ok, I’m thinking of selling to convert my acoustics using Triggers, how do triggers compare to an actual Roland kit.
@dissaorlavey69435 жыл бұрын
morse code = WHAT'S WITHIN MATTERS :V
@laurdessvalentino58493 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you for posting this
@SoundsLikeADrum3 жыл бұрын
You’re quite welcome!
@dmguk99314 жыл бұрын
i found if you add mayb a impact patch on to the head in the centre...like a dot....gives a little more impact sound and feel
@Soundgear48 ай бұрын
Great post, sound really good. Any suggestions on good sounding low volume cymbals?
@Eurodrummer6665 жыл бұрын
I´m first to comment this time! I have been considering buying those heads but I didn´t want to bother swapping heads before recording or gigging.
@Damith1403885 жыл бұрын
RTOM heads. :)
@bogartsandoval4 жыл бұрын
I think the word “Best” is subjective.
@cookiecache39103 жыл бұрын
Cool tip: Flip your toms over, and rather than replacing the batter heads, replace the reso heads. This way, should you need full volume, the toms can simply be flipped over. And, the tone when playing on the mesh will be more similar to your full volume heads.
@SoundsLikeADrum3 жыл бұрын
Have you done this before?
@cookiecache39103 жыл бұрын
@@SoundsLikeADrum Yes I have my practice kit rigged this way. The kick and snare have to be rigged with the mesh on the batter side. I should have a video out on this in a couple of weeks.
@timthaler88053 жыл бұрын
Cookie Cache where is the video????
@colaiuka5 жыл бұрын
Hi Cody! Awesome videos always. Do you think it is quieter than a regular practice pad kit such as DW...? Thanks!
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
In my experience it is, the sound is completely different but the fact that you're not striking a hard rubber surface really keeps things quiet. - Cody
@rodrigoaquinoofficial2 жыл бұрын
Great review.
@robertpetty7753 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice. I just bought some mylar mesh heads, and the toms sound great, but my snare sounds trashy. I put a cloth on top of my batter head, and It's sounds much better, but I think I'm not tuning them with proper tension compared to the bottom reso side. Any advice? Thanks!
@-ellow3 жыл бұрын
Hi Cody, a few weeks back at the Chicago Drum Show there was some guy with his kid that ripped your idea from THIS video and presented it at the drum show as their own original idea. I got to play on there setup that they where showcasing and I was rather shocked at how good the setup sounded. When I was seated at the set it seemed like the drums where louder and had nice tone, about 12 feet away from the set the sound of the high-hat foot pedal action was drowning out the sound level of the drums. I kept going back over to the set throughout the day playing on it in total disbelief. Now I am considering picking up a cheap set with shallow drums and adding the mesh heads to them myself. The setup they used at the drum show looked to be converted from electronic drums.
@ricosalomar5 жыл бұрын
A felt beater will chew right through those things, in my experience.
@EverythingisFire5 жыл бұрын
Have to use those bass drum patches.
@DrumScummy5 жыл бұрын
It actually does damage to both the beater and the head. Best to use a plastic beater. Maybe wood works too, but I have never tried that.
@Medievalfan944 жыл бұрын
I had some cheap housebran QiHead for my BD from Thomann. First I played felt beater on it, then I heard about felts damaging the head, so I afixed Falampads. They fell off after a few days... Then I switched to the plastic side of my beater and yesterday I chewed right through the head... All this in a matter of around 4 month, in which I played maybe once a week for an hour. Next time, I go Remo Silentstroke or Evans Soundoffs for sure, and I will try again a Falam pad...
@LetTheWritersWrite3 жыл бұрын
Really? Wow I would have thought the soft felt would keep from wearing it.
@demonocusmetalocus35583 жыл бұрын
The great thing about mesh heads is they trigger great
@anthonygrilli4919 Жыл бұрын
What if you nodded these by applying some kind of membrane in some parts of the head so it pushes air in just certain places? Every video is great, keep ‘em comin!
@RogerGlenn5 жыл бұрын
Dude! I’ve had this idea in mind for a while actually... doing a hybrid kind of thing with the mesh heads + triggers and a sound module. Not sure it’d be on topic for this channel but I’d be curious to see how one would go about setting that up, and what gear would be required. I’m a working dad with wife and kids, and my goal is to be able to practice on real drums at home without bothering anyone (since one of my kits is never being used anyway) thanks for the great content guys! 👌🏻
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
You can use most trigger systems with these heads. You’ll need a module to convert the trigger signal into sound though.
@SylarTheBest5 жыл бұрын
Search for Sunhouse , it's an awesome system for that, allows you to get 10 different sounds off of just 1 drum
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
@@SylarTheBest We've actually used Sensory Percussion with these heads (I was present during the filming of the promo video Evans did with the SoundOff heads + Sensory Percussion for the product release). While each drum is capable of up to 10 zones, you can get SO many more sounds per zone when you factor in all of the other elements of the software (velocity, note rate, effects, etc). It's a pretty incredible system. -Ben
@bigdaddyjoblivion2 жыл бұрын
Did you also put mesh on the snare side as well for that first example???
@sweetthaiwilly1472 жыл бұрын
Do you have any videos on using triggers with these mesh heads?
@SoundsLikeADrum2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, no. We haven't covered anything in the world of electronic percussion as that's not really our expertise.
@Gibbyrodriguez754 жыл бұрын
Any tips for rim shots/cross stick? I have a practice pad to help with that vs a snare, but it’s challenging with the arms of the snare stand.
@SoundsLikeADrum4 жыл бұрын
Adding rubber gaskets to the hoops can definitely help. There are some companies that make products like this specifically for electronic triggering.
@nomusicnolife1991 Жыл бұрын
Which tension do you have on the batter side of the bassdrum?
@Emma-sf2yu2 жыл бұрын
Do you need anything other than the mesh heads or do they sound normal by themselves when on shells
@sustan45323 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you think its OK to practice rudiments on a mesh head ? or is it better to practice on a rubber pad ? Ir is it better for your wrists on a rubber pad ? Thx
@queenpurple84332 жыл бұрын
I use mesh reso heads on my vistalite kit since I play metal and need a very short sustain for such an unruly kit
@BatManWayneCorp Жыл бұрын
Is there such a thing as a hybrid head which has just a circle of mesh on the outer perimeter?
@marcusbrown87 Жыл бұрын
One problem I have with mesh heads is they are slippery, so when playing fast rolls around your drums, my sticks slip and slide all over the place. Does anyone have experience with any mesh heads that are less slippery than others?
@SoundsLikeADrum Жыл бұрын
This is something that you may have to address with technique and setup.
@cornerliston4 жыл бұрын
Are there any conventional drumheads being slightly less loud? Semi loud skins?
@jna33415 жыл бұрын
What about using mesh heads as resos? would it be like concert toms?
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
Yup! -Cody
@ttolle85 жыл бұрын
I would like to know about using mesh heads for reso's on a normal kit!
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
It's basically the same as using concert toms - and a great solution too if you want to keep your reso hoops on and protect the bottom bearing edge. The sound difference between mesh reso and no reso at all is virtually zero. - Cody
@ttolle85 жыл бұрын
@@SoundsLikeADrum Cool thanks for the answer!
@pyroeuropa5 жыл бұрын
My meshheads are only tuned to the point where the tension rods meet the hoop With regular resos it still sounds lively and the snare has less rebound than a practice pad. Was that beer that Cody drank in the last livestream? :D
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
Haha, we were hydrating with some seltzer after quite a bit of coffee. Been a very busy long weekend of work but we’ve got something big coming together.
@StrappingYoungLadam3 жыл бұрын
Now is there anything significantly different about these Evans heads vs the Remo Silent Strokes? Or are the remos just more talked about?
@SoundsLikeADrum3 жыл бұрын
Different material so a slightly different feel but fundamentally the same.
@StrappingYoungLadam3 жыл бұрын
@@SoundsLikeADrum Thank you very much! I believe the Evans sound off mesh heads are a little cheaper so I'll probably go that route.
@EWDrums2 жыл бұрын
How can you make them just a little louder? With a band you need 50% more volume. Any ideas? I'm trying to find Ludwig silver dot stickers...!
@SoundsLikeADrum2 жыл бұрын
These definitely aren't heads for use in performance with a band. Standard plastic heads and a lighter touch is the way to go. Consider a bit of muffling and smaller sticks to assist if you're having trouble keeping the volume down.
@juanjavierm4 жыл бұрын
5:44 Are there mesh heads also in the bottom of the heads or only on top? Sounds fine!!!
@TommyD10215 жыл бұрын
Never use felt beaters with mesh heads. It destroys the mesh heads.
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
Been using one for quite some time without issues...
@TheCodegram5 жыл бұрын
Sounds Like A Drum it definitely does over time. I’ve learned my lesson. Flipping to a plastic beater will save headache in the long run
@BCSchmerker5 жыл бұрын
+soundslikeadrum *Thanks for a discussion of quieting full-size kits for intimate spaces.* Should I equip the Christian-Education Wing center hall at OMS Japanese Christian with a full-sized Pearl® Crystal Beat® eight-piece, EVANS®/D'Addario® SoundOff batters (across the kit), EQ3-NP kick resonants, Glass 650 tom resonants, and Hazy 200 snare-sides with PureSound™ Twisted 20 snappies will give space for acoustic lutes. Avedis Zildjian Co. apparently has a complete enough range of complementary cymbals in the L80 Series: 10"/25cm splash, 13"/33cm hats pair, 16"/41cm crash, 18"/46cm crash ride and China, and 20"/51cm ride.
@timthaler88053 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ibleasse5 жыл бұрын
What about RTOM Black hole drumhead System? I recently got them but I didn’t tune them. Just slapped them on and started practicing. The center patch, though, a bit loud compared to the edge. Also, not getting the response from the snare as without the black hole on top.
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I don't have any experience with those at all but i'll have a look :) - Cody
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
Those are certainly a possibility but pricing out mesh batter heads for this setup vs. a set of the Black Holes came to roughly $75 vs $245 so it’s significantly more expensive for the convenience and different sound. With the Reso 7 heads on these drums with the mesh batters, I can’t imagine wanting more volume from a low volume setup. -Ben
@ibleasse5 жыл бұрын
I have them because I practice at home, taking them to class and teach, take them to small venue performances and large to medium gigs. So changing heads constantly and several times a day is not convenient. So for the price they are good. For lowering the volume too. For the quick change and setup. Perfect. The only thing is the clicky patch in the center, and the reduced responsiveness on the Snare. I have to loosen the wires up for better response then tighten when removing the black holes. I was wondering if you’ve experimented or have advice
@AtTheSourceStudios5 жыл бұрын
The felt beater eats the mesh through so definitely do not use felt on mesh.
@65Drums5 жыл бұрын
Yup
@pastorkev7775 жыл бұрын
Have you tried a aquarian thin pad or remo kevlar slam pad?
@AtTheSourceStudios5 жыл бұрын
@@pastorkev777 of course if you use a patch, felt beater or whatever is fine. Only talking about about direct contact.
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see so many people commenting this as I’ve been using one for quite sometime without issues. -Ben
@AtTheSourceStudios5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundsLikeADrum it might take a while but it is a fact that it wears the mesh away quicker. You might not be as hard a player on the kick as some though. I personally have never even tried it because I just knew from the get go and I like felt beater but yeah I'd rather not ruin my head quicker so I got a patch
@Aleph_Null_Audio5 жыл бұрын
Could you compare mesh heads a s resos to concert toms? I'd be interested to hear what difference there is, if any.
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
They're almost identical honestly. A great solution too if you want to keep your reso hoops on and protect the bearing edges. Danny Carey has done this on his kicks with Tool for years. -Cody
@aydencloyd5 жыл бұрын
Whats Within Matters
@primozsirca5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing...
@mousev10935 жыл бұрын
Felt beaters on mesh heads is a super no-go. There's pics all over the internet from edrum communities about ruined heads. The kick will literally get torn and chewed apart from standard playing. Plastic and wood beaters only
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
And yet we haven’t encountered issues with this one over the course of a 9 month period 🤷🏼♂️
@mousev10935 жыл бұрын
@@SoundsLikeADrum just reporting what I've heard from the communities I'm in. Even my alesis strike pro manual mentions this specifically. I'd venture a guess that it may just take more time but it also just may be certain felts being more abrasive than others. Dunno if anyone has looked into particular brand biases for these issues.
@djentlover5 жыл бұрын
If these work with trigger mics or piezos, the problem of sloppy pattern drummers in my studio sessions is gone!
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
They do!
@wallyallyn54735 жыл бұрын
Can you use the heads for small gigs the mesh hats I'm talking about ???
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
I probably wouldn't because they're VERY quiet in the room but you can always try and see how they work for you! -Cody
@a.j.wilkes63525 жыл бұрын
I wonder what sort of volume you could get by putting some mylar patches in the center. That might split the difference in regards to volume.
@garyh44584 жыл бұрын
I used spray adhesive to glue some mylar patches from an old drumhead on to the bottom of my mesh heads so that they are louded. It worked but my sticks and my sticks aren't so boucy.
@NoslenLRac5 жыл бұрын
Great info again! What does your shirt say? I assume it’s Morse code...
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
Was a gift, website says it translates to 'What's on the inside that counts" I guess? hahaha :) - Cody
@flanagansrage78855 жыл бұрын
Please do low volume cymbal shoot out the agean rs sound the best because they are b20 i think but ive heard theyre not all that quiet
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
That may be a possibility down the link within either our forthcoming comparison series and/or our cymbal series.
@saltysaltine5 жыл бұрын
Can one put triggers on a mesh head setup?
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@DynoPoV5 жыл бұрын
What if you have normal batter heads and silent resonant heads?
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
Then you basically have concert toms - Danny Carey of Tool has done this on his bass drums a lot live, works great and looks good too! - Cody
@toddmcneair4043 Жыл бұрын
can you use brushes on these heads?
@SoundsLikeADrum Жыл бұрын
We wouldn’t recommend it.
@jesseoverton7376Ай бұрын
@@SoundsLikeADrum maybe a cardboard circle cut out to lay on top for brushes? Haven't tried it! Actually, wanted to know, can you do a closed press roll on your setup in this vid? Cross stick sound okay? Your vids are great, man!
@TonyDiaz.2 жыл бұрын
Felt beaters kill mesh heads; use either a patch or a platic/ wooden beater.
@SoundsLikeADrum2 жыл бұрын
To the contrary, we've found that wooden beaters (and some plastic) will wear down mesh heads far faster than felt beaters. The issue with felt beaters is that, if they're too soft, the mesh will actually wear the head of the beater down rather than vice versa.
@kol0ss3845 жыл бұрын
What does the shirt say in Morse code
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
Was a gift, website says it translates to 'What's on the inside that counts" I guess? hahaha :) - Cody
@jaybatista95375 ай бұрын
Absolutely love your videos, man. One thing I have been thinking about is mesh heads as resos for acoustic kits, with regular batter heads. Do you think they could bring a concert tom-like sound?
@jgreen20153 жыл бұрын
A strip of duct tape can really bring out some tone and snare response. Its v unsatisfying to hear nothing! Paired with some low volume cymbals and i can record myself relatively decently with just my smart-phone, and even better with a £15 amazing lapel mic. No clipping. Pretty good drum/ cymbal balance. Even gets the deep end of the kick! Edit: i TRIED cutting the centre of my old heads and haedcore gluing them to the centre of the mesh heads. Sounds..kinda bad. Traps SOME air. Adds too much attack and the real head never stretches enough so sounds floppy. But most importantly begin to peel off on the first song!
@GlennBoB1969 Жыл бұрын
can you trigger these?
@SoundsLikeADrum Жыл бұрын
Yes
@austinchoatedrums5 жыл бұрын
The one thing I’ve always wanted to hear is how the mesh heads work as resos compared to single head drums. That way, I can save the bottom bearing edge.
@SoundsLikeADrum5 жыл бұрын
We’re planning on that as a bonus video on Patreon.