Best used ThinkPad to buy in 2020?

[@IncomingNumbers]

You say best used ThinkPad to buy in 2020, I hear best used ThinkPad to buy in 2024

[@RyugaHidekiOrRyuzaki]

underrated comment

[@Janon48]

IncomingNumbers Ah, I see you’re a man of culture as well.

[@vaibhavsingh9x]

I believe more like 2021, when all the corporate 3-year warranties start to expire!

[@digable_celestial_dwarfs6778]

Ah, hello future eBay competition 👋

[@servantofjesuschrist2680]

@@digable_celestial_dwarfs6778 let the great war begin

[@jussapitka6041]

The T480 is a couple hundred more expensive than a fully upgraded T440p, while my budget IS a couple hundred dollars.

[@talldarkknight]

Could always turn tricks around the corner for more money. After all it's for the greater ThinkPad.

[@ldld3072]

I bought my second used T430 recently. Installed a Patriot SSD, 16B of DDR3 1600MHz RAM, the "traditional" keyboard from my old T510, and a 7260HMW wifi card after ditching Lenovo's dastardly whitelist with 1vyrain and video support from Scott Banks. Sweet machine! May try to upgrade the screen next.

[@SebisRandomTech]

Exactly ten minutes. Nice.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

It’s a little bit less actually but i thought might as well 😂

[@tanmaywho]

1 second is used to store the thumbnail.

[@reggiestickleback7794]

I recently bought a T430 Enormously impressed

[@toddspinner8382]

Both my daughters and I have been using T430's for years. Strong machines.

[@issustaita]

Me too. I got one in excellent condition for 90 dollars.

[@ALJorgeHenrique]

@@issustaita Do you recall the source? Amazon, ebay...

[@issustaita]

@@ALJorgeHenrique I found it on Facebook marketplace it's a recycling business located in Riverside, California.

[@ALJorgeHenrique]

@@issustaita Thank you.

[@hubert832]

x230 here! Stunning machine, I replaced my Acer with 8th gen cpu for this beauty. Will never buy anything other than Thinkpads.

[@vdochev]

X220 all the way for me :) I'm thinking now of X220T just to try that wacom touch screen under Krita.

[@kirkeasterson3019]

I love the aesthetic and durability of the x230, but I find it too small for a 16:9 screen ratio. And it has such a low resolution (1366x768). I love the small form factor but I find it next to impossible to be productive on. Anything less than 15" is too small for a 16:9 display.

[@nixlad]

yes you will.

[@danielhandika8767]

Unfortunately laptop prices in my country are very stable, the seller doesn't care if there are new laptops released. They refuse to decrease the price at all. Even if it was a refurbished or used.

[@ZipZep63]

My first laptop was a Thinpkad t43, then a t60, t61, x60, x200 and after that I bought a x250. x250 is a garbage. Everything about it is plastic. This was no longer a Thinkpad. I sold it and bought the x230. The x230 and t430 for me are the latest real Thinkpads.

[@Benjamin-ko1fg]

My X201 is working very well for me, with 8gb of RAM, 9 cell battery and a SSD. Love the classic keyboard! I would only upgrade to a X220 or X230 with the keyboard mod, but the X201 is more than good enough for me.

[@darkside2054]

Is it enough for microsoft office

[@MinecraftCheating]

@@darkside2054 you should get an x250 or t480 instead in 2024

[@wileymanful]

@@darkside2054 yes

[@brutusthebuttress1476]

X201 is build different B)

[@ZMASLO]

T480 is great machine. I'm glad that you've used part of video with eGPU that I've made for MoreleTV. Note that thunderbolt 3 in t480 supports only bandwidth of 2 lanes pcie so it's about 20 Gb/s not 40Gb/s 😉 but overhaul good job 😃

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Thanks for the video and the info!

[@albertsimohartono]

@@MrDaltony69 NVME Slot in T480 has 4 PCIE Lanes. There is one USB-C port in T480 that support Thunderbolt 3 with 2 PCIE Lanes. And yes these are separated lines.

[@NetMan_PL]

ty tutaj?

[@L3m0n104]

Cześć ZMASLO XD

[@ForumRoyal]

Hej margaryna :D

[@RedRoserade]

I've been using my T480 at work for over a year, and apart from random SSD failures (which led to it being replaced under warranty), it's an excellent machine, for running Linux too (been running RHEL 7.7). My model has the i5-8250u and 16 GB of RAM.

[@talwat321]

My thinkpad also works very well with pop!_os, which was surprising. even the touch screen and pen worked.

[@retroedgetech6158]

Great summary. I wasn't aware that the T480 could be upgraded to 64GB of memory. I don't need that much, but I do think a lot about upgrade-ability. The battery life is the thing that makes newer ThinkPad laptops appealing to a lot of people. I like the classic ThinkPads and still use them, but not having to plug in as often to charge is a reason to go with something newer and more energy efficient. I enjoy your channel. Thanks for what you do!

[@NTSCuser]

According to Lenovo it supports only 32GB www.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/thinkpad/t-series/ThinkPad-T480/p/22TP2TT4800

[@AE-bm4no]

Why can't you buy a new batter for 440p?

[@pavelexpertov]

Got thinkpad T480 and I love it. First time having a thinkpad laptop. Thanks for video!

[@FraYoshi]

As a coreboot user and T440p owner, the "no audio output when using an headphone" is probably fixed, because for me it works and in the documentation is no longer flagged as known issue ^^ I'm happy with my T440p.. but i agree, the T480 is a better choice for this year.. Great review!!

[@TRUEiMPROrecords]

You rock! Thanks again, saved me a shitload of googling that would have probably left me more confused. Concise good info well presented (Y)

[@DJTydalOfficial]

I'm watching this on my new T480 with an i5-8350U, 24GB of DDR4 RAM, and a 1TB SATA SSD running macOS 13.4 Ventura. Let's go!

[@entremontanas7614]

Everybody pausing the video in 1:18 and going to ebay to check xD

[@HeyWiseGuy]

I did!

[@maciejeryk8359]

Agreed, i have i7 and i5 x230 both Greta.

[@alexmighty693]

Fuck you got me

[@moofymoo]

0:28 - you have poltergeist in your studio, water glass moved!

[@KaKasherr]

I've just bought a T430 and it's great

[@rud2k881]

I like how at 1:55 he indirectly told all the neckbeards to stop being such a pleb and grow up

[@cidsx]

T410 user here! It's great if you don't mind the thickness and you upgrade the RAM and get a new battery and SSD.

[@Salsajaman]

The Thinklight is so cool. The keyboard light is an actual flashlight that can light up your space too. I even upgraded mine with the two-heatpipe cpu cooler, although it's probably not worth the time and effort.

[@cidsx]

@@Salsajaman I forgot that they removed that! Honestly, I prefer that over a backlit keyboard.

[@telemasz1086]

I subscribe. 8 GB RAM, SSD and Windows 10 works much better than on the new machines with HDD.

[@TheLekjam]

i have T410 i5 560m Intel HD 128 ssd 8gb. is it possible to upgrade it with something else?? just to play some old games like half life?? or CS:Ground Zero?

[@ThaLiquidEdit]

We need an updated version of this video! :)

[@elijahking7309]

You didn't have me sold until I saw the classic keyboard mod. Wow.

[@keen2461]

I recently ditched my beloved X301 and bought an T460S. I couldn't be happier. I also have an X260, but it feels like junk compared to the T460S. I will never buy a new laptop again in my life. I'll wait a couple of years and get a used one for 1/3 of the new price.

[@carlosalfredo657]

You are amazing brooo! I’m a gonna buy a t440p, cause I don’t have enought money. It will be my first thinkpad. I’m so excited. Keep uploding videos. Excelent job!

[@scarycooper]

I've had a couple. They're really great laptops and they're fun to tinker with. Have fun!

[@darthgamer6080]

You're gonna regret it if you don't know where to buy genuine Lenovo replacement batteries. Lenovo doesn't sell 9 cell batteries for the T440P anymore, however they still sell 6 cell batteries for this machine, however they are very expensive and hardly ever in stock.

[@dotQuadcore]

Looking forward to this. T470s user and I never been so much happier using Thinkpad in my life

[@EONE4LIFE1]

I brought a T540P off ebay for 155 plus tax in Mid Dec 2019. So far it's been great. I add a 8GG RAM stick for 36 dollars and it runs great.

[@UCFc1XDsWoHaZmXom2KVxvuA]

I got a T480 out from ebay about a month ago and now it's looking great all riced up! i must thank you for this video bro

[@WolfgangsChannel]

My pleasure!

[@alexandrebouvier7731]

I have an x220 bought in 2017, begin to be slow on W10 but works great with Ubuntu.

[@ubercorey]

Dude, lately every time I need something and do a search on youtube, it turns out you have the answer. Thank. You!

[@uiopuiop3472]

PSA: If you want the laptop a eGPU alone, the T480 only has 2x PCIe lanes, which can affect the performance. If you want 4x PCIe lanes, you should buy the slimmer X series (X1 Carbon for example), or the bulkier but more powerful P series (P50 for example, which is pretty good value)

[@TheGreenReaper]

Or the T480s! If you can live with 40GB RAM max.

[@miagy420]

Thank you for the advice, right now i have a x230, i was eyeballing p53 for a bold jump, but considering what you just said i think i'm going to have a second look at t480.

[@SiriusXification]

Might aswell also consider elitebooks and precision/latitude series as well in this price range. The Elitebook 1030G3 in particular is very nice.

[@amans6504]

Garbage

[@TheyCallMeHacked]

It's 2023 now, and the T480 has gotten really cheap (the price has pretty much halved compared to 2020). It's probably the best bang for buck of any laptop this year still. The only downside is that it's not corebootable, meaning I'd avoid putting any data you'd be wary to share with the NSA on it

[@seank3683]

Ive been using my t480 for a year and a bit now.. Its been great and I have had no problems with it at all, one of the best laptops out there in my opinion.. The keyboard is just fantastic.

[@alexf1515]

Which ThinkPad did you change it to today?

[@seank3683]

Still have the same t480 which I use. I replaced both the internal and external battery as both of them recently lost their capacity to hold a charge. Except for that, it still runs great! A laptop that will last a long time. @@alexf1515

[@sudq69]

I still use a t440p in 2022, I just love it so much

[@TheDallascowboy365]

and t480, for now, is the last model of this series external/removable battery

[@getgle]

@@WillSimoni Cope

[@eduardoavila646]

Thats sad :/

[@pedrofelck]

Yeah, the T480 is definitely another end of an era for the Thinkpad T series that started with the T440.

[@reinaldogoncalves8937]

Hey guys, any good choice for a 15'' screen thinkpad? Thanks!

[@reinaldogoncalves8937]

@@georgetolentino7754 Ah, bought an X1 extreme under 1000 dollars :))

[@Cowicide]

Vincent: Speaking a little slower and saying "please" would be nice. Mr. Wolf: Come again? Vincent: I said "slower" and "please" would be nice. Mr. Wolf: Get it straight, Buster. I'm not here to be "slow" and say "please". I'm here to tell you what to do. And if self-preservation is an instinct you possess, you better fucking do it and do it quick. I'm here to help. If my help's not appreciated, lots of luck, gentlemen. Jules: No no, Mr. Wolfe, it's not like that. Your help is definitely appreciated. Vincent: Look, Mr. Wolfe, I respect you. I just don't like people barking orders at me, that's all. Mr. Wolf: If I'm curt with you, it's because time is a factor. I think fast, I talk fast, and I need you two guys to act fast if you want to get out of this. So pretty please, with sugar on top, upgrade the fucking laptop.

[@mbk1251]

0.75x Change your playback speed to 0.75x Found in the list top right hand corner under 3 white dots in list I used sometime to get screen shots at even slower rates Hope helps

[@Cowicide]

@@mbk1251 Thank you. I was actually complimenting him because he's so quick and to the point. Not the best bedside manner, but that's secondary to me in this context. Mr. Wolf was the shit, my friend.

[@SebisRandomTech]

Also, one more thing the T440p has that the T480 doesn't: An optical drive. I still use mine from time to time, and even if you don't it can be swapped for an additional hard drive/2.5" SSD. Nice video, I'm working on my own video guide for used ThinkPads in 2020, however I am focusing on a couple of different models on a tighter budget than the T480. I'm actually going to be looking at the "circlejerk" machines! :P I do like the T480 though, to me it really is the newest T-series machine I could recommend to someone because of the backwards changes made with the T490. As for the classic keyboard using a T25: When I read that article it seemed like he had not figured out how to get the layout working properly, similar to how when people first began swapping T420 keyboards into their T430's the keys were still mapped for the T430 layout. If that's been fixed then the T480+T25 chassis would be undoubtedly one of my dream machines. Once again, great video! Looking forward to more content!

[@WolfgangsChannel]

That's true. Though you could still use an USB optical drive, especially considering how rare you need one these days. As for the HDD caddy, T480 can have 2 NVME SSDs, but yeah, T440p can have three, so that's 0:1 for T440p The classic keyboard mod on T430 is much more simple and thus more people do it. I'm pretty sure the keyboard layout is just a matter of EC patching on T480 as well, but since the process is so difficult, very few people actually went through with it.

[@SebisRandomTech]

@@WolfgangsChannel I still use an optical drive pretty regularly, especially since one of my ThinkPad uses is digitizing old VHS tapes and making DVD copies. Plus I watch a lot of movies on my laptop so the drive is still good to keep around. Having NVME on the T480 is a nice plus, even though the speed improvements are only noticeable in certain use cases. I really hope they can figure out a relatively easy way to patch the T480's EC for a T25 keyboard, and make aftermarket T25 parts readily available. I would buy a computer like that in a heartbeat.

[@Ishicoatl]

thanks for the review, I'm planning for my next laptop, this sounds great for all my activities and work

[@garciafloresenrique4496]

About a year ago changed my XPS 13 for an X220, no regrets. Better keyboard, trackpoint, tons of IO ports, coreboot compatible and several upgrades. Been thinking to upgrade to T480, you get a better screen, enough number of upgrades, more CPU juice and good battery life, but you lose all the other advantages. It's still a pretty unbiased decision, you can get 3 or 4 x220s for one t480.

[@maxnovo625]

What advantages do you you lose? I'm trying to buy one of these old Lenovo's, I just started to look into which one to buy so I still got more homework to do

[@Stars11222]

I have the T450s that i bought on ebay for 95. It had a cracked screen, ram taken out and no charger, bought replacements for rather cheep and overall spent less then 200. This was great as i just started collage and needed a light laptop to do school work.

[@nuklearpuppy]

X230 and T440p user here. Still in love with both of them due to the upgrades I have added.

[@KTPurdy]

You didn't mention that T480 was the last T4** product line to offer a hot swapp-able battery. Not offered on T490.

[@X288X]

Totally =(

[@X288X]

The last "Thinkpad" I think

[@KTPurdy]

Whoops! Yes he did. My bad

[@walid7885]

Jeez, I still use an X60. But hey, it's a tablet so, kinda modern. By the way, is that a DVORAK keyboard on the desk?

[@maxstevens9643]

Yes he made a video about it

[@ccricers]

They may be old but I like the beefy sturdy look of the laptop/tablet combos with the swivel screen.

[@redriverscout4404]

Nice. I just recently acquired an X201 tablet. They are great little machines.

[@SolomonSide3]

Failed to answer the most important question though. Is there a NEED for the t480? As they will likely be doing fairly similar range of tasks given there is no dGPU. I could care less about heat when I dont feel it at all on the keyboard. The t480 still has a long way to go to meet the same value proposition as the t440p as they are 5x-6x as much. Not saying its a bad laptop, they just exist in way different avenues of the value argument.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

That's for you to decide :) And I'm pretty sure I did answer the question in the video - it's completely dedicated to whether it's worth buying T440p and upgrading it, if for roughly the same amount of money you can buy a T480.

[@SolomonSide3]

@@WolfgangsChannel that seems more like if your an impulse buyer versus a patient bargain hunter. That's something I can agree with. However, even after upgrading my own I am still less than half the cost of a t480.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

@@SolomonSide3 Refurbished or new?

[@SolomonSide3]

@@WolfgangsChannelyou mean the t480?

[@WolfgangsChannel]

@@SolomonSide3 yes

[@user-oc7pq4ci9v]

I still have a x200 because I'm broke.. i mean they are better!

[@MSK120]

Muh Libreboot freedumbs

[@Flash136]

I'm still rocking my X220 for the same reason. Broke Gang rise up 🙌

[@whitebeartigtig]

I've got an ASUS transformer t100, I wish I had even an x200 because the t100 is pathetic

[@walid7885]

X60 here, am broker which is fine because I am literally a Broker.

[@PrivateEyeYiYi]

I have an X200 and it's pretty good, except for the REALLY DIM display and the crummy audio (which is OK w cans) and the lack of a touchpad (which got me using the stick thing which is sort of OK). But I'd really rather have an X220.

[@irish80122]

I both live this video and hate it since I have been buying T480 machines up on eBay for our department. Your analysis is spot on!

[@brysondockrill4378]

Been slamming my t440p every day for years...with the upgraded glossy 1080p screen, it's hard to beat for the dough, even now. I rarely feel held back, even editing 1080p video or mixing audio.

[@dragunovbushcraft152]

My DD is a W540, with very high specs. It's held back by nothing, except the latest AAA game titles. I game the crap out of mine with the K2100m graphics, and for the games I play, it's well more than capable.

[@meribold]

Very informative comparison!

[@FrancoCiminoPrado]

I just got a used T480 a few weeks ago and it's great, it's everything I wanted from a laptop. Now I'm selling my XPS 13 since I no longer have a use for it.

[@FrancoCiminoPrado]

@Ayaka About $500 USD, I'm in Chile so a more accurate comparison would be about $450 usd.

[@nathandaven]

Yo whats your wallpaper on the mac? Great vid! Also how you like hackintosh on the thinkpad? I've been thinking about installing on my 1st gen x1 yoga.

[@kendrick10601]

Any update for 2022?

[@integratedgraphics]

One thing I really don't like about the newer Thinkpads is the soldered charging (USB C/Thunderbolt 3) ports... it seems much harder to repair. I really wish they'd at least kept the slim-tip adapter as a backup (like on the T470), since that was usually replaceable without having to desolder/solder a component on the motherboard. I guess it's less of a problem with the T480 since there's more than one though... break one, be more careful with the others :P

[@impossibleisnothing9197]

What is your opinion on Thinkpad t495, with amd ryzen hardware?

[@possiblyanowl]

No thunderbolt kinda sucks, and AFAIK none come with the good screens.

[@iflnr978]

bad Intel! i guess i am lowering my future pay check if i end up working over there. Intel dropped the ball and they continue to fumble it over and over

[@Beriatan]

I've got a e595 and I love it. Though I'd wish a bit higher refresh rate on screen, backlit keyboard and a tad longer battery life (5 hours out of visual studio light coding on windows 10 with some music in the background). But I wouldn't trade it for anything. Just make sure you get an extra memory stick, since Vega graphics chip benefits from dual channel memory

[@WolfgangsChannel]

It's nice! Kind of sad that they get zero coverage by tech channels. I've tried looking for reviews but have only found unboxing videos from smaller channels.

[@dragunovbushcraft152]

The Ryzen 7 is decent. The Ryzen 5 is 3% slower than the i7-4700mq.

[@thestreamreader]

What is the difference in upgradability between the T480s and T480.

[@MrSonic731]

i spend $130 on a like new t440p with 8 gb of ram ?all i need is a ssd which is $24-40 ,why spend 600 on that?for thunderbolt? lol i got a desktop for gaming

[@arthur1338]

what about the FHD ?

[@NTSCuser]

Not really necessary on a 14" screen. I can barely tell the difference even with reading glasses on.

[@Office3]

Thank you! I had made some research at your early point of 15 w quad core 4ghz processor, that's s huge tech performance jump

[@Chabam]

I have a t440p and a t480s. The portabilty is just too good to even look back at the old gen tbh

[@kirkeasterson3019]

"I don't think I'm unusual in preferring my laptop to be thin and light." -Linus Torvalds

[@adultlunchables]

Portability is kind of a myth... Have you ever once said to yourself "I can't lift this laptop! It's too heavy to lift" No, of course not...

[@kirkeasterson3019]

@@adultlunchableshave you ever commuted over an hour each direction 5 days a week with the same 60lb bag? It gets old quickly. You'll want to get rid of as much weight as possible.

[@adultlunchables]

@@kirkeasterson3019 You mean walking with a 60 pound bag? No... I have not. I just throw my t440p into the passenger seat of my car and the weight doesn't effect me at all.

[@albertsimohartono]

@@adultlunchables yeah not everybody has that privilege. I just bought T480s for about a month ago cause I must bring my laptop to Uni every day. My old one is an HP with its 9 cell removable battery. It weights about 2.5 Kg, compared to T480s about 1.4 kg. You don't know how glad I am every morning when I put it to my backpack and my back keeps thanking me.

[@cindypendulot863]

Thank you so much for your video ! it's so informative

[@nesan44]

I'm here happy with my Lenovo ThinkPad t430 😊😊

[@nesan44]

@@TerminaMorte yeah true

[@meyimagalot9497]

Hey, Merry Christmas!!! And Happy New Year!!!

[@WolfgangsChannel]

You too!

[@jacobdubeau718]

Are you the same woldgang I used to play Naruto forum RPGs with? Love u bro either way keep making good content.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

No, I don't think I am but thanks

[@tyzoe]

I was thinking the same but had confusion on the t480 and t440p. Thanks.

[@bryanlee5195]

I bought a T540p for $342 and now I'm second guessing myself...

[@Cavi587]

It's 2024. I just bought a t440p for an equivalent of about 90 dollars. It's got an i5, 8GB RAM and the HD+ screen. I will replace all of those because the upgrades themselves also got cheaper compared to 2019 and 2020.

[@samcurmudgeon]

For functionality, the T480 and T580 are good choices -- except for the base model TN screens which look washed out. However, the amount of flex in their plastic is shocking for a Thinkpad.

[@Breeegz]

T440s here. I am a dock user so I would prefer to keep that dock connector on any replacement laptop. From what I can tell, if I upgraded to a T480 series, I would need to get a different dock, is that true? The item descriptions don't usually mention the dock setup and I'm forced to try to determine whether the newer Thinkpads support my same dock. I think T470 series is the last version that supports the dock I'm using for the T440s. If you can confirm, I would appreciate it.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

You will need a USB-C dock for T480. Good news is you're not limited to Lenovo dock and can buy any USB-C hub with Ethernet, HDMI and USB. I personally use TB16

[@ellobo82]

Great video! Can the t480 really get 64 gigs of RAM? Everywhere I checked 32Gb was the maximum amount supported

[@WolfgangsChannel]

It can! www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/b9yaoy/64gb_2_x_32gb_works_in_my_t480/

[@ellobo82]

@@WolfgangsChannel 😍

[@WolfgangsChannel]

That's T480s. Both RAM slots are socketed in T480

[@ellobo82]

Talking about upgrades, the new T490 is kind of a step back on that side: soldered RAM and only one free RAM slot. The T480 seems to be the last of a long line of great, solid, no-nonsense laptops. Love it even more now!

[@attaque71]

Managed to nab a T495 (amd) south of 1k last year. Quite happy with it (so far).

[@curiexr8292]

Great timing, I was considering getting a T580, but found out that the screen has a PWM flicker?! Also the bezels on T480/T580 are way too big IMHO. Ended up getting a used Lenovo Y530 for way less. Everything is great so far except battery life (no bridge system), and I'm concerned about durability compared to a Thinkpad. Time will tell..

[@SebisRandomTech]

What is everyone's obsession with bezels? Like, I understand not wanting them to be super thick like on some el cheapo laptops, but to me the T*80 bezels are fine. The thinner the bezel, the less of a buffer zone you have protecting the screen from damage in the event of a drop.

[@MetaJamm]

Im very happy with my small 4gb ram Thinkpad 11e, with intel M-5Y10c CPU. It's virtualisation frendly, resonable fast, 4 watts TDP CPU. Spend for him just 105 buks (without hdd, and charger). Perfect choise for working in the filds for the price. Use him with Linux Mint as main system. Be ware of mistakes, lenovo have a full ZOO of "11e" models with absolutely different specs, screens, CPU's and motherboards.

[@victorprokop2240]

I am running in a X60T bro I don't even know what is more than 2GB of ram

[@birchtree5884]

How do you do it?

[@victorprokop2240]

@@birchtree5884 I just dont play games and stuff. If you run a old version of firefox that thing is GAME. Great computer

[@ALJorgeHenrique]

@@victorprokop2240 My cheap-ass phone possess 2 RAM. There are several (inexpensive) used and pre-owned laptops on Ebay and Amazon, by replacing a few pieces, you can turn them into overpowered machines.

[@ctsd623]

The T440p is really only a good solution if you can plug in wherever you work, cos its battery life is dismal, I've always thought of it as a "portable desktop." For people that need a great keyboard with awesome battery life and dont need a quad core beast, the t450s comes with a better trackpad/keyboard, with the 1080p IPS screen option, for much less than a t440p, without even including the upgrade $$ it requires on top. Add the extended battery and you have a whopping 16 hour battery life which is still first rate even in 2020

[@uzernaim1648]

i have an X240 and with the right drivers and settings the clickpad is amazing

[@franciscoc1261]

Love the battery life. Do you think the T480 is powerful enough to day trade with without issue? All the Forex guys on youtube recommend minimum 16G RAM, SSD gaming laptop with the reasoning being you don't want any slowdown during trade. The programs used though are MetaTrader 4 (which looks like program from 1994) and Metatrader Desktop program which is used for chart analysis. I have a gaming laptop I bought but the battery life is atrocious so I want something else I can take on the road and I love that the T480 has such great battery life. Also do you have any recommendations on 17" screen models? For trading purposes 17" is much better for the job (and has a number pad which is important). Thanks for your time and for making this video. Extremely thorough. Subscribing.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Workstation laptops usually don't have the best battery life. Beefy hardware eats through battery very quickly and there's only so much Wh you can fit until you can't take your laptop on US flights anymore (I think 100Wh is the limit atm). I'd recommend sticking to U-series Intel CPUs (or the newest Ryzen machines), no discrete graphics since it consumes more battery, 90Wh+ battery, QHD display for more screen real estate.

[@franc3861]

Thank you

[@MegaManNeo]

And here I'm sitting with my X240 and T420 in the collection, thinking... yeaaaaaah~ once German prices drop again by 50%. Proper non Chinese eGPU support is great but not enough to justify a new purchase just yet. Plus you lose the replacable second battery on the T480 afaik, that's quite a bummer to me.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

No, T480 still has a replaceable battery. T490 doesn't

[@MegaManNeo]

@@WolfgangsChannel In that case it indeed is an interesting laptop 👀

[@cla1814]

@@MegaManNeo T480 is the last laptop with power bridge. So for many is the last worth buying Thinkpad laptop to buy.

[@JohnDoe-wb7ng]

How is Linux support for t480? Anything to watch for? What about thunderbolt in Linux (debian).PS: Great videos Wolfgang

[@WolfgangsChannel]

This would be a good place to start. The page is short, so that's a good sign wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T480

[@bertvdl1178]

modern linux distro's are running fine! I am running Solus linux, but I alto tried ubuntu, clear linux and zorin linux. No issues what so ever, everything works out of the box.

[@juliusdockwarder4211]

Just bought a T480s some weeks ago, cannot complain at all. Got a good deal on it for 1400 Euros with the big i7, 16 Gigs of RAM, the 512 Gigs SSD and WQHD screen. Definitely recommend it.

[@PedroDVC]

And yesterday I bought one with 24Gb and 512 SSD for 600...

[@jackjack4412]

​@@PedroDVC this guy in the video called that really really cheap. I'm looking for something under $250.

[@maninahat1417]

what about 2021?

[@ericstech3181]

That one dude in the back wearing the mask at 0:25 knows what's up!

[@maximilianstucke1992]

Hey, I've just got a thinkpad x240. Pretty happy with it. 8GB of ram, SSD, etc. Yeah it got the 768p screen and the standard track pad, but for 150€ I can't complain. Don't really need much more power and the two batteries are really a wonder when it comes to battery life! We always want more than we actually need 😅 that's our eternal curse...

[@Jose-rj6nj]

Oh men, I can understand you completely, we always want more than we need, I started in 2019 with a computer with Intel hd graphics 4000 and core i5 4gen. After that in 2020 I could change that and improve it with a thinkpad l430 Intel core i7 3gen. And now 2021 I could get a Lenovo thinkpad e480 core i5 8250u Intel uhd graphics 620 and I stopped one moment and said, why would I need more power?🤔🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@JohnPhelyno]

Thank you! I almost make a wrong decision. Your video saved my bankruptcy . Now i think i know which thinkpad i think i think pad (pay a Dollar)

[@KylesDigitalLab]

A T440p would cost about $500-600? You can get the T440p will all the upgrades (quad-core i7, FHD IPS, 3 key touchpad, 16GB RAM) for about or under $350. I bought my T440p for about $145, FHD IPS screen is about $55 (you can get them for about $43 if you don't get the official Lenovo FRUs), 8GB of DDR3 (to upgrade to 16GB) is about $25, backlit keyboard is about $30, 3 key touchpad is about $18, and a good quad-core i7 CPU can cost about $80. That adds up to $353, and that's if you go all out. 8GB of DDR3 is perfectly fine for doing web browsing, HD video etc, and you don't necessarily need a backlit keyboard. A basic T440p with a quad-core i7, any FHD IPS panel, 3 key touchpad, would cost about $311. And don't forget, you can sell your old parts. I managed to sell my old i5-4200M CPU for about $30, and I sold the old ClickPad for about $5. You could also sell your old keyboard for about $10, depending on the condition. That takes about about $45 from the cost, bringing the price down to $266-308. Saying a T440p would cost $500-600 dollars is just wrong. It's more like half that. I don't mean to be rude or offensive.

[@cla1814]

What about pcie ssd and more modern motherboard?

[@TheInchii]

Where are this kind of prices? I guess you mean USA, in EU we have crazy high prices. I have bought T430 with 1600x900 screen, blacklit keyboard, 8gb of ra, i5-3320M and 250 evo 860 samsung for 250euros which is something like 280-300$. Now for same laptop I still need to pay around 200-250euros. I was looking for X1 carbon 3gen for my wife and the price are like 350euros++++ for fullhd, 5300U, 8gb of ram and 240ssd. In good condition, if you would like to get something more packed you need to spend like 450euros. I was looking also for t460, price start around 300+ euros for basic specification. T440P are a lot cheaper now, medium price is around 220-250euros but you get most of the time 8gb of RAM, i3 or maybe i5-4300M if you are lucky, 240gb ssd and that's all in OK condition, for good one with nice spec, backlit keyboard etc you need to pay atleast 300-350euros. If you want to buy something in really good price and ofc good condition with decent spec you need to look very long time and maybe you will find something in "good" price. Cheers

[@aryanadiazcakasana4414]

any X series recomended thinkpad for 2020?

[@kennethdarlington]

X390?

[@WolfgangsChannel]

X280 is priced similarly to T480 if you want to buy it used or refurbished. You can theoretically buy a X230 and upgrade it (Nitrocaster FullHD mod, SSD, 16GB RAM, 9-cell battery, classic keyboard) but at this point you'll have to shell out around $400-500. Better spend a bit more and get a modern machine. Beware that the RAM is soldered so you'd want to buy the 16GB version. Alternatively if you're on a tight budget, just buy the base model of X230 and don't upgrade it. Would still be a far better choice then the cheap Walmart laptops.

[@aryanadiazcakasana4414]

@@WolfgangsChannel i already have X230T at home so i think iam just gonna buy some RAM & SSD for it thanks for the info anyway :3

[@aryanadiazcakasana4414]

@@kennethdarlington iam on tight budget..

[@misterthegeoff9767]

@@aryanadiazcakasana4414 X230 with a RAM upgrade and SSD is still a good machine. The screen resolution is a bit low but a second hand external monitor or a TV fixes that.

[@barrysauce]

My Dad used to use a t480 for his job and he wants one now. I just did the t440p with everything and I think it is great. The newer carbon x1 I guess there is a known issue with the usb c or thunderbolt docking stations issues. Good video's.

[@elektron2kim666]

The newer stuff is like fashion to me. It dies too quickly. My retro interests are not part of an average user club or some competition.

[@aaroncheah2088]

I recently acquired a broken T540P for cheap. The laptop won't boot up. Ended up replacing the motherboard from AliExpress and all went well. Added a 4G card, 240GB SSD and 1TB HDD. Replaced the bottom housing and screws. Next on the list will be the battery and LCD. Still looking for a 15.6 inch IPS LCD.

[@thedoofguy5707]

The glass moving at the 29/30 second mark freaked me out for a moment. And then again at the 57 mark.

[@knight_gabriel]

it's now wolfgang's creepypasta channel "you won't believe what happened when I bought a used thiccpad off of D A R K W E B"

[@eduardoavila646]

When you install the necronomicon in your thinkpad from the windows store, or when you buy a thinkpad from the SCP foundation.

[@pablogualo]

I bought a T440 a few days ago ($160), I just updated the ram to 8GB , 240 GB SSD, and get a docking station for $20 on Amazon, and now my E420 is gonna be a FreeNas server or for docker experiments

[@BridgetTheNun]

I liked the video and it was very informative...however can you please add the word *The* before you start a sentence or when refering to a device *"The T480"* sounds more natural.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Noted

[@RackaApps]

I have the Thinkpad T440s and its pretty capable. Has an SSD and 8GB RAM. I think i'll be rocking this till the end of 2020

[@chooseauniquehandle]

its 2022 now. are you still rocking it?

[@RackaApps]

@@chooseauniquehandle it's no longer my primary machine but I still have it and it still works

[@f-mendez7829]

I just bought a 2019 Lenovo P73 with warranty until 2022

[@Nitramrec]

And?

[@eduardoavila646]

You just forget that upgradeability of processors also mean longevity, you wont have bga issues if you dont have a bga directly holding the chip. So even if i dont upgrade from a haswell 4th gen i5 from the long dead M lineup, if for some reason the cpu died, i would just replace it. While that if my U cpu dies, its bye bye to the whole motherboard. I'm not saying this would or would not make getting the new one a bad idea. Just saying its something to take into account

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Fair point, but I don’t think CPUs fail all that often these days. I personally never heard of that. On the 90s computers even the L2 cache was socketed, but we don’t see anyone complaining about it anymore. Does it reduce repairability? Definitely. Do L2 caches fail often enough to justify that? Not sure. Does it help reduce the footprint and heat, and pack more performance into smaller package? Also yes. Besides, PGA CPUs are harder to find nowadays since they’re not produced anymore, and the ones you’d want to get (quad core i7s) are pretty expensive for what they are. At some point in time it’ll probably be cheaper to buy a new computer than to get your hands on a CPU replacement.

[@user-gi8xg2ki7q]

7:46 nice fumo

[@JamieTheEnby]

I just got a t480 to use as a Linux machine since I just wanna try it out. I got it for 150 bucks as *broken* since the battery is bad lol

[@goldsub1]

Great Video. Can you do a tutorial on how to Undervolt the laptop using Linux please?

[@JJRamirezP]

Can you make another video, best to bu in 2022? thanks

[@enziaki-real]

Disregard thinkpad acquire currency buy thinkpads

[@noneofyourbuisness7]

I found an L380 yoga on craigslist for 290 bucks and gawd damn is this a good machine. especially considering its the dreaded "L" series. theyve gotten so much better

[@E6hosting]

Ah so this is what Nico Rosberg is doing these days.

[@tanogg794]

Lmao

[@pedrofelck]

I have a T450 that is serving me well, but the T480 is definitely going to be my next laptop (unless I become rich, then I'll buy the latest X1 Carbon).