Best Video XLR Shotgun Microphone?

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@moment
@moment 4 жыл бұрын
thumbnail is so good dude
@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@HeresMo
@HeresMo 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I love it
@chargv
@chargv Жыл бұрын
Indeed! If there was an KZbin Award for best thumbnail, this would definitely be at least at the top 5 2020! Not that I remember a better one, just being humble and assuming there are lots of thumbnails out there.
@G_handle
@G_handle 4 жыл бұрын
I did a test like this with a half dozen shotgun mics in about 1996. I saved my pennies, swallowed hard and bought the then $1,200 Sennheiser MKH 416-P48, rather than the much cheaper options most of my colleagues were using. About a year later I bought a second one. That pair has circled the planet with me for a couple decades now. They’ve been the best audio investment I ever made, which includes multiple studios, and they’ve paid themselves off 100 times over. Funny thing is, every year or so a new mic comes out that claims to be a 416 killer and I first blow it off, then keep hearing about it, then have to know for myself. So I get one, and sometimes they sound good and I give it a try. For a while. But I always come right back to my 416s. Literally yesterday I was doing an interview with a doctor in a hospital conference room, with AC humming that couldn’t be turned off. Before he got there, I had rolled of the room at about 120hz, but when he sat in and I heard him speak, I changed my plan. He had a deep rich broadcaster voice, that was authoritative and fit the purpose of the interview perfectly, and I didn’t want to roll off his voice. If you know the 416, you know that yeah you can obviously aim it at the subject, But almost equally important is that can you aim the null of it at the noise source, and change that ratio dramatically. (Acoustic Source to Noise as opposed to Signal to Noise Ratio). So the combination of using the null of the mic to reject as much of the room as possible, and having him speak while adjusting my HPF, I was able to find a sweet spot for intelligibility and authority all the way down at 50hz, and his rich voice joined the 10,000 other interviews captured by that trusty old microphone. Tip: In all audio, second (if not first) to Microphone Choice is Microphone Placement. (Any mic on this list, if well placed, beats the 416 if poorly placed.) For a talking head interview, thread your boom through whatever mess the camera operator has created. Now pretend you’re in a recording studio and only recording audio. Start by aiming your 416, at mouth level directly between the interviewer and interviewee, smack dab in their eyeline, parallel to the floor at mouth level. Got it? Skull-416-Skull. Okay so in your imaginary studio, bring the 416 to about 8-inches away from the subjects mouth (and imagine a pop filter in between while you’re at it). With your headphones on, and talent speaking, if you bring the mic any closer you start to get proximity effect and their voice gets bassier. (This is precisely the setup you will find in many Voiceover studios around the world, and the 416 is a top choice for spoken word often beating out LDCs costing 2-10 times as much.) Now back on set, imagine you have a second person raising your stand slowly, you are slowly angling the 416 (white tipped, no windscreen of course), and the higher the stand goes, you keep the mic aimed at the subjects lips in proportion by slowly twisting a section of your boom. When the white tip just barely clears the top of the cameras frame, stop. You’ll be at about a 45-degree downward angle, and most of the time you’re set. But let’s go further. If there is a side of the room or area that sounds worse than the other, assuming that your boom is parallel to the floor (I use a Mafer Clamp rather than the half dozen specialty boom holders I own), then you can telescope your boom either in or out from this center position, and ‘tilt’ the head of your boom keeping it aimed directly at that mouth, And out of frame, AND getting maximum rejection of whatever noise you’re trying to kill. Wanna go further? Imagine being at the beach for an intimate soft spoken scene, right at the water, on a pebbly beach with the waves crashing against some rocks, at golden hour. Looks beautiful. Sound is a nightmare. Oh, and it’s windy, so you have your zeppelin on the mic. About the best you can do is shoot the Wides like before, but when you move in for coverage, boom from the SIDE of the frame, with the null end of the 416 aimed directly at the noisiest part of the beach, and the front end so close to the talent that one or two hairs on your windjammer breaks the frame. Another common scenario is working on city streets with road traffic. I can’t tell you how many impossible scenes my 416s have saved from an ADR destiny. Get a 416. It’ll be with you longer than most of the people in your life. Till death do us part.
@evgenytimofeyev
@evgenytimofeyev 2 жыл бұрын
what a cool comment! Was interesting to read. I’m choosing an xlr mic myself for yt videos…
@Dougsterbob
@Dougsterbob 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know anything about audio. However, I really enjoyed reading this comment, even though it was like reading a foreign language
@brosjay94
@brosjay94 2 жыл бұрын
Man your comment is amazing!!
@GarrettMusic1
@GarrettMusic1 2 жыл бұрын
That is awesome! Sennheiser makes great microphones
@nicholasboule5134
@nicholasboule5134 2 жыл бұрын
I feel this way about the CMIT 5u, saving my Pennies for one as we speak
@TheCrazyGorilla
@TheCrazyGorilla 4 жыл бұрын
Literally came just to comment about how great of a thumbnail that is, bravo 🔥
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF 4 жыл бұрын
I've got to tip my hat to your thumbnail game. That's one of the best thumbnails I've seen ... I gotta step up my game.
@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@tombuck
@tombuck 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not going to lie, I came here to say the same thing. Perfection.
@PhillipBridgesReviews
@PhillipBridgesReviews 4 жыл бұрын
It caught my eye 👍🏻
@flockitoflockito
@flockitoflockito 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t comment a lot, but I had the same thought the second I saw the thumbnail
@CarloTimothy
@CarloTimothy 4 жыл бұрын
whoa you’re that smart home guy right? you made go into a rabbit hole regarding solar panels though
@pkendall99
@pkendall99 2 жыл бұрын
I had the sales guys at B&H perform for me a test in their mic room and the Sennheiser MKE 600 was the clear winner. It was the size - mountable on my camera, price - under $400 and the fact that it was powered mic - could put a wireless brick on it and plug into DSLRs, were the reasons it won out. Also, it doesn't blow out - I shoot alot of concerts & loud events like my old phantom powered Audio Technica did. The Sennheiser MKE 600 has just been a solid top mic for my cameras through the years. I love it.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job, Caleb! It is interesting how your tests mirrored your own subjective choice and I have to say, they're pretty close to my own impressions as well. That 416 sounds great on your voice!
@jesaispasvraimentquoiecrireici
@jesaispasvraimentquoiecrireici 4 жыл бұрын
What is your order for the quality test? I don't think that the NT5 should be in the top Five, I don't agree with this part of the video
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын
@@jesaispasvraimentquoiecrireici These things are somewhat subjective. If you don't like the NT5, that's totally legitimate. The NT5 is pretty good for its price and can be a better option when working indoors in reberberant spaces vs. any shotgun microphone, especially the longer shotguns. Those can create this sort of warbling sound in those situations. The NT5 won't do that in the same space. Also, it seems to have a better reliability record than the Oktava and certainly has a better warranty.
@MARTINTALIA
@MARTINTALIA 4 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd what do you think about NTG5 for indoor to make short films?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын
@@MARTINTALIA I'd generally opt for a non-shotgun if most of my recording will be indoors. But if you manage severe reverberation and aim the microphone correctly and monitor carefully when recording, the NTG5 is fine microphone.
@antoineholliday7631
@antoineholliday7631 4 жыл бұрын
Curtis, I'm surprised you didn't see the problems with this review. The sound quality test is VERY flawed! 1. We don't know what recorder/preamplifier he's using. I know the microphone itself will make more of a difference than the recorder will, but this detail has an effect on sound quality too. 2. The speaker he used, sounds very low quality and is NOT an accurate test subject... No professional would ever judge a mic based on how it sounds pointed at a cheap $30 speaker vs. an ACTUAL person talking. We don't even know which mic was used for the recording that he played back from speaker, which also could have an effect. A better way to do this would have been to either say the same line 12 times with each mic, or place a few of them next to each other and read lines. Which is actually very easy to do despite what he said in the beginning. Normalize in post afterwards. 3. 9:30 I'm shocked he put the NTG5 so low, since Rode themselves designed it to have a flatter/more natural sound than both the NTG3, and BY FAR better a NTG4+. 4. The Oktava and Rode NT5, shouldn't have been in the review since they're not shotguns. By design, they simply cannot perform at the same level as a shotgun mic, if they were used at a distance outdoors. Which shotguns excel at. This point is relevant because, it's suppose to be a "Shotgun mic test" not a "Indoor boom mic test". Other than that, still a neat idea for a video.
@ThisIsTechToday
@ThisIsTechToday 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, man, I love these kinds of videos. I was really surprised about some of these. I also personally love the MKH416. I have two of them, one for my KZbin videos and one for my live streams. It sounds perfect on my voice, and that's the variable that no test can figure out for someone else on KZbin. I always tell people to borrow or rent a mic before buying one because not all mics sound good on every voice (my voice sounds horrendous on the Shure SM7B). Great video, dude!
@jonmatle
@jonmatle 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, a current on-camera microphone round up is needed. I don't think any big channels have done a full roundup since the Deity D3/D3 Pro came out, so far as I can find.
@HarrisBeauchamp
@HarrisBeauchamp 4 жыл бұрын
The “natural light” background is so relaxing, people should do this more often. Also, you always put out such quality content, both visually and informationally. You’re one of the best, Mr Pike. Thanks for doin what ya do.
@AureliusTjin
@AureliusTjin 4 жыл бұрын
Can we just take a minute to acknowledge Caleb's amazing setup. That background is on point 👌
@itsaaronmiller
@itsaaronmiller 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously?! I need a breakdown on how he achieved this
@BrendanGill
@BrendanGill 3 жыл бұрын
I just saved this video for that reason! Glad to see some props for it here too
@tylerwinter512
@tylerwinter512 Жыл бұрын
It’s a blender background.
@ElectricDreams2
@ElectricDreams2 Жыл бұрын
You can take a minute sure, just don't ask me or anyone else to. If people do like it they will likely state it themselves without prompting from someone else
@CollingFilms
@CollingFilms 4 жыл бұрын
Great test! thanks for doing this. I am a bit confused on the math with the Rode NT5. Sensitivity: 3 points, Rear Rejection: 6 points, Side Rejection 1 point: Quality of sound: 12 points. 22 points total. but you have it in 11th place with 15. The only reason I noticed it was because after getting the top score on the quality, I thought it was weird it only had 3 other points from everything else. Not a huge deal obviously, just curious! Again, great test!
@BoothJunkie
@BoothJunkie 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the 416 club! It is fantastic for voiceover too. I love love love mine.
@adrianbaev5277
@adrianbaev5277 4 жыл бұрын
Hey it's my favourite voice over youtuber. Your videos are already helping me a lot with my first project. I'd already gotten a Rode NTG3 before I saw your video though. Budget probably wouldn't have permitted a MKH416 though. Using it with the Scarlett 2i2 3rd gen to add the air to make it less bassy at a more budget price.
@samhaokip9126
@samhaokip9126 3 жыл бұрын
@@adrianbaev5277 hey Adrian, what would you suggest between shotgun mics like these vs a dynamic mic? I am about to start a commentary channel
@usernamehandle
@usernamehandle 4 жыл бұрын
YES. On camera microphone video please, dude! That'd be so cool! Got 2 NTG2s arriving today c: wish this video was just a few days earlier haha
@capionstudio
@capionstudio 4 жыл бұрын
Great test! We've been using the MKE600 for years in soooooo many different scenarios. Landed aproximate to where I'd expect in your ranking as its truly an "everything' shotgun. Nice job Caleb.
@betterideas
@betterideas 4 жыл бұрын
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May
@beflyaudio
@beflyaudio 4 жыл бұрын
Rough winds do, in fact, shake the darling buds of May
@stevengonz
@stevengonz 4 жыл бұрын
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May
@dannabass
@dannabass 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevengonz Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May
@TheOneMonk
@TheOneMonk 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, rough winds do shake the darling buds of May
@vedder7373
@vedder7373 3 жыл бұрын
shoot I heard butts 12 x lol
@Maros_Mari
@Maros_Mari 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this test. I enjoyed watching it. I got MKE600 and am happy with the versatility it provides, to be able to use one AAA battery and use it when needed on camera or use it with external recorder. Great option and I am glad to see it in 4th position at least, which it deserves.
@BenjaminCode
@BenjaminCode 4 жыл бұрын
Can we take a minute to talk about the incredible lightning of this set? Remember when he turns out the light it's full black... And yet it looks like there is light going through some windows. Incredible and warm atmosphere here. It is one of your best lightning set so far imo! And the rest of the ideo is gold quality as usual. You're my favorite gear youtuber Caleb. Thank you for everything.
@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Aw thank you so much Benjamin! That really means a lot to hear!
@gerardsamuel1649
@gerardsamuel1649 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, I that was the first thing I noticed. Loved the atmosphere it created
@phucmapvlog
@phucmapvlog 4 жыл бұрын
The NTG4+ was recommended to me by some people, but I’m glad I watched this video.
@SnilkrakT
@SnilkrakT 4 жыл бұрын
I like my NTG4+ and works great if you are a run and gun shooter because of the internal features.
@danielkaranja7978
@danielkaranja7978 4 жыл бұрын
I have it and although I never compared it as methodically as we see here, I find that it us pretty good, depending on one's use cases.
@hbp_
@hbp_ 3 жыл бұрын
I actually liked it more than some of the others higher on the quality list. It's not as clean but I find the voice is more readable which might be more important in some situations.
@Matthew_Raymond
@Matthew_Raymond 3 жыл бұрын
I have to wonder if the voice he used for the test wasn’t too low for the microphone. The NTG4+ tends to do a better job of picking up higher-pitched voices and is much more sensitive in that range. If a female KZbinr did a similar comparison, she might reach a different conclusion, especially with the MKH 416’s aggressive presence boost.
@geoffkeen5234
@geoffkeen5234 3 жыл бұрын
Former Technical Production Manager & Senior Technician for a corporate AV company, video producer/editor and musician here.. when I watch your videos your know your stuff and your ear is spot on ~ superb work! 🙏
@satellitestreetmedia
@satellitestreetmedia 5 ай бұрын
Lovely edit. Like how you gave just enough of the poem for a good sample but not enough to bore us, then you let the poem play out once at the end; perfect. 🤩 8:40
@AudioHotline
@AudioHotline 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison. I personally love my MKH 416! I plan on reviewing it soon. This video gave me some ideas of shotgun mics that I want to test out! So thank you!!
@TheAdamSchaaf
@TheAdamSchaaf 4 жыл бұрын
I love the lighting setup behind you in the talking head segments.
@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Adam!
@godsfilmmaker8863
@godsfilmmaker8863 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this video (and the summary of which mics are good for what scenario) is the detailed explanation of what most filmmaking KZbinrs are thinking when they say “it depends” lol. I’m going to have to watch a couple more times to spot everything, although the Mk 416 conclusion is consistent with what I’ve always heard about “best shotgun mic”. That said, I always appreciate when someone actually gives their opinion instead of dodging the question, thanks Caleb for a great video! Also, I am a HUGE FAN of the studio background! Very creative and gutsy choices, like a splash of film noir with that lamp! PS congrats on your new mic!
@swinglerentertainment9677
@swinglerentertainment9677 2 жыл бұрын
I love how thorough your tests are and making sure there's a constant. We're looking to upgrade our fleet and you really answered that question. Your work in this video just got you a like, comment, and subscriber.
@JustinOpinionChannel
@JustinOpinionChannel 3 жыл бұрын
The quality of this video is just stupid good! Very good stuff!
@JensLarsen
@JensLarsen 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this on my iPad means that all recordings sound the same 😁 But thanks for a really great video and observations!
@onocoffee
@onocoffee 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you started off with the disclaimer about this being a test to your specs because the right mic is so specific to each individual need. Great video but unsurprised that the 416 came out on top. It's been The King of shotguns for over 30 years now - and for very good reason. Enjoy it!
@HeythereDavehere
@HeythereDavehere 4 жыл бұрын
Love the a-roll lighting. Kinda film noir style. Suggestion: start adding a quick wide behind the scenes shot at the very end of each video to show your lighting setup and camera positioning
@ClaudioBOsorio
@ClaudioBOsorio 2 жыл бұрын
I watch this video and I don't see a man. I see the definition of QUALITY. Definitely one of the best channels in youtube.
@Jason-mk3nn
@Jason-mk3nn Жыл бұрын
Great choice. You really cannot go wrong with Sennheisers, especially over a long period of time. My kit also includes the Sen 416, 1x AKG 414 (original), 2x Sennheiser digital wireless packs, an old Tascam pencil, two Sony ecm wired lavs (great for both lavs and aerials, too) and a smattering of misc mics to complete the kit. I'd love to have a matched pair of the AKG 414s and a pair of matched Earthworks mics for ambisonics. Probably seems crazy to have all of these mics, but each mic has its purpose and strengths. This is especially true when doing a lot of music. When doing larger ensembles, I generally will rent, but this kits allows me to do nearly everything a small ensemble would ever need. Little hint for those wanting to learn more about microphones is that Guitar Center actually rents out some incredibly high-end mics, for reasonable rates. Each location is a bit different, but the higher-end stores will tend to have mics you never thought you would be able to see, much less rent.
@gamerpoets
@gamerpoets 4 жыл бұрын
The 416 is great. Been using it for a year and I couldn't do without it now.
@TheASMRRyan
@TheASMRRyan 4 жыл бұрын
a HUGE help! you've helped me so much with my set up and I'm thinking of getting that NTG5, love the sensitivity, especially for ASMR. Thank you!
@dominicscott6646
@dominicscott6646 3 жыл бұрын
You absolute fucking legend. No bullshit, you said what you wanted, performed controlled tests and then analysed the results at the end instead of just presenting meaningless data. First time I've ever watched a review without feeling the need to watch another.
@TornadoCrafter
@TornadoCrafter 3 жыл бұрын
I think a front to back and front to side difference would be more useful than raw numbers but since you gave us the data we can calculate that ourselves if we want so thank you for that! My reasoning is once you tweak your gain based on the output from the front of the mic, how many DB quieter it is from the side will give you an idea of off axis rejection. If a mic has lower front output, you'll have to turn up the gain more than a mic that has higher native outtput to compensate, which will also raise the levels received from the side.
@DreadKyller
@DreadKyller Жыл бұрын
Glad someone else had this same thought. For example the Rode NTG4+ had a low -11.1db for sensitivity, so the -23.6db from the back is really only -12.5db less than from the front, when you boost the NGT4+ up to nominal levels the back-facing sound will also be boosted, so you have to account for the sensitivity as well. Comparatively the NTG5 had a base sensitivity of 5.0db, and a read sensitivity of -20db, meaning the rear rejection is a relative -25db compared to the front. This would completely rearrange the values. It's possible the numbers shown were rearOrSideSensitivity - frontSensitivity, but the video makes it seem like they're just the raw sensitivity from the directions.
@Oliur
@Oliur 4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY. I've been hoping you do an updated mic video.
@GKNaidu-hb5zv
@GKNaidu-hb5zv 3 жыл бұрын
oliur here ????
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 4 жыл бұрын
The best set designs on KZbin! 👌 I'll have to watch the first minutes again coz that's all I was thinking about.
@navireljan1857
@navireljan1857 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this a lot! We need a break from these recent crazy camera releases and refresh our concern on audio department! Great video i really need this!
@manuelauer
@manuelauer 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the exposure of your videos. especially in the last few months. great quality.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 жыл бұрын
Very well performed test: compliments! Love the Sennheiser as wel. Bought the NTG3 because of the price difference. But your test made me rethink. Thanks again! Very well done.
@TeddyRumble
@TeddyRumble 6 ай бұрын
I love my Rode NTG3, but I use it for exterior work. I use the AT4053b inside. Wonderful mic, and not expensive!
@JoshPostVlogs
@JoshPostVlogs 10 ай бұрын
Very cool video. Not to be the math nerd police, but I noticed the NT5 should have had 22 points instead of 15 at the end. I knew something was off when the NT5 got 12 points for sound quality and somehow only 15 overall so I went back to double check.
@TheUproarGroup
@TheUproarGroup 4 жыл бұрын
You're videos teach me so much, I'm not sure where I'd be without your videos Thank you so much for your hard work!
@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! Glad you enjoy them!
@CoreyAllgood
@CoreyAllgood 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man. I wish you'd done this 9 months ago. I ended up buying a Rode NTG2. It's great, but I'd have loved to really see this comparison before I'd bought. Great job Caleb!
@silversulu
@silversulu 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, concise shootout, Caleb! I love my 416. Because it gets mention so often in these shotgun tests, you'd think there's an inherent bias just because it's SUCH an industry standard, but then you test it and it just consistently averages up near the top of shootout tests like these. However, as Curtis likes to point out, finding the best microphone out that gives you stellar of the box results is a very bespoke exercise specific to your voice.
@COPiX
@COPiX 4 жыл бұрын
I got the MKE 600 probably 5 years ago and it has served me well - especially for $330
@veritas932
@veritas932 4 жыл бұрын
gave you a thumbs up. one of the few youtube reviewers who actually gave us your opinions on the various mics you reviewed. a whole majority of the youtube reviewers took the easy way out and just ask the viewers to form their own opinions. sheesh, what's the point of a review if the reviewer ask viewers for their opinions. they always give the lame excuse that it all depends on their voices. True , but they know their voice best and should just form an opinion on which mic suits THEIR voice best.
@michaelpoczynek
@michaelpoczynek 3 жыл бұрын
The Sennheiser MKH416 is very well respected and no wonder it has been used for decades by pros. Thanks for making this video.
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 4 жыл бұрын
Daang love that studio backdrop design 👌
@nicokosa
@nicokosa 3 жыл бұрын
This video was so helpful and well laid out, many thanks and kudos, the chapter separations and the charts at the end of each really made it super effective.
@InventiveImagery
@InventiveImagery 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this thumbnail ever since your teaser video a couple weeks ago on Instagram! So solid 😍
@Mikkel111
@Mikkel111 3 жыл бұрын
You may want to take a look at DPA microphones. Mike tested one next to an MKH 416. To me, the 416 sounds like a walkie-talkie next to the DPA 4018.
@seecraig
@seecraig 4 жыл бұрын
I think your tests are excellent at exposing the issue of "best" in many areas. It's really about the "best tool for the job" as one can see the different strengths and weaknesses of each. It would be interesting to extend your tests, using the same mics, for different use cases. Examples might be, indoor dialog, on camera, outdoor dialog, outdoor reach. This is very much why a good sound person often has a "tool kit" of microphones so they can pull out the right one for the environment. To make it even more fun, after you do the tests and commentary, perhaps have Curtis Judd provide his own as well showing how two sets of ears might evaluate the same test results.
@MyBlocksStrongestMan
@MyBlocksStrongestMan 4 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Talk about an undeniable thumbnail! You're going to get 100% click through rate on this one!
@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Aw thanks!
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 4 жыл бұрын
You are clearly reading my thoughts - I’ve been looking for a mic for days!! Wizard!!
@EntropicStarEdits
@EntropicStarEdits 4 жыл бұрын
Ive owned the 416 for years and it is such a great mic. Totally worth it.
@John-e4p1x
@John-e4p1x 2 жыл бұрын
too sizzly.
@TwaynePereira
@TwaynePereira 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Sennheiser ME66 and I believe it’s quite similar to the MKE600, I couldn’t be more happier considering it kicks around used for about 150-200. Great comparisons!
@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
I'll have to check that one out too!
@Citizen_one
@Citizen_one Жыл бұрын
Didn't watch when you originally posted but shopping for a mic now. Thanks for this. You're always on point. Happy new year!
@thejuankurtis
@thejuankurtis 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make this. I was looking to buy the same mic.
@jimmystewartuk
@jimmystewartuk 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test and review. For me personally, after watching this video I would go with the NTG5 for situations when I need to reject as much surround sound as possible to make sure the subject I’m recording gets no other distractions.
@RecordingStudioLoser
@RecordingStudioLoser 4 жыл бұрын
Man... your attention to detail is legendary.
@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Aw thanks man!!!
@GyeGreene
@GyeGreene 2 жыл бұрын
**Very** thorough! This is a service to the community! Thanks for including the vocal "clarity" snippets: it allowed me to make my own subjective judgement. :)
@ebbypixel
@ebbypixel Жыл бұрын
Just here to say thank you. You've really provided more insights on which mic I should buy based on my needs.
@quentinlesser8890
@quentinlesser8890 4 жыл бұрын
We’ve been needing this for SO LONG! You’re the best person to do it, 100% killed it! I’m curious...a lot of audio guys I work with on sets swear by the Schoeps microphones for any audio, both on set and in an interview setting. Any reason why those didn’t make the lineup?
@TeddyRumble
@TeddyRumble 6 ай бұрын
WAAAAY too expensive. $2600? No thank you.
@tat8241
@tat8241 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, you are on your level at creating this hyper-relatable videos for people who like to create content/film etc. At the top.
@fotoworkshop_stuttgart
@fotoworkshop_stuttgart 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison Caleb. The 416 seems to be a classic for decades. Thus I am wondering how the 80x0 Sennheisers which were engineered just a couple of years ago stack up against it.
@mrosenblatt
@mrosenblatt 4 жыл бұрын
I had a matched pair of Rode NT5's for years that I absolutely loved. My big problem with them was the lack of a switchable pad on the mic itself. They were absolutely amazing to use as overheads on drums for genres like Jazz where you don't necessarily want to close-mic the toms. They were just too sensitive for my liking on instruments. All they needed was a built in pad to make them perfect.
@TheSuperCoolPop
@TheSuperCoolPop 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, not sure if you'll read this but really amazing job with the video. You really put in the work to make this and I wanted you to know that we all appreciate it.
@persvanstrom
@persvanstrom 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Long time viewer and you have inspired me to finally post my first video (so scary and fun). Do you have a recommendation on the other end of the mic - the preamp, sound card?
@TeddyRumble
@TeddyRumble 6 ай бұрын
Sounddevices Mixpre 3 or 6ii. Zoom H6 is good, too.
@Storysium
@Storysium 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video! Thanks for the info. p.s. I think you also made a mistake with the numbers (NT5 should be 21 points in total).
@jespersichlau4343
@jespersichlau4343 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a used 416 a couple of years ago and it makes me genuinely happy to use it because of the quality it produces.
@uhhnush
@uhhnush 6 ай бұрын
that lamp in the background with the shadow is sooo good! great video!
@everillangel5037
@everillangel5037 4 жыл бұрын
Good Day. This video is very interesting to watch and some good mic comparisons. One note I would like to add and this is coming from a sound engineers perspective so don't take it too harshly. The sensitivity section for me if you want to improve this test should rather be replaced with the SNR or signal to noise ratio. This is more of a testament to the mics than sensitivity. there are loads of tutorials on how to measure this and it will also equalize all the mic tests for you so that it can be standardized metrics to measure.
@impatrickt
@impatrickt 4 жыл бұрын
You made this real easy for me. I'll buy them all!
@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Buy it. Store it.
@impatrickt
@impatrickt 4 жыл бұрын
@@dslrvideoshooter motto
@johnheiser2604
@johnheiser2604 5 ай бұрын
A fair assessment given your requirements. Well presented. Enjoyable and informative, thank you.
@tomdchi12
@tomdchi12 4 жыл бұрын
In the ending segment, to my ears, the mids were a bit forward compared with how I'm used to hearing your voice. Thanks for putting together this comparison - cool to hear a bunch of samples from some mics I'm not familiar with. I have the Oktava and like (but don't love) it - I'm using it with a MixPre 3 II, which has amazingly clean preamps, so the low sensitivity isn't a big problem. The MKE 600 looks like an amazing value.
@sopot9
@sopot9 4 жыл бұрын
As each microphone has different sensitivity, you should measure the ratio between front and rear/side view of the mic, not the nominal values
@sopot9
@sopot9 4 жыл бұрын
also, your Bluetooth speaker has own frequency characteristic, with can affect your test (if for example it cuts lower frequencies and enhance mids)
@kayf8738
@kayf8738 4 жыл бұрын
I said the same thing to myself. If a mic is very sensitiv...,of course it will pick up more from behind - regardless of the quality of the rejection abilities. That would mean...put the speaker in the front...gain normalize all mics (is that a thing ?) to the same recording levels and than test the rejection from behind.
@MarandMedia
@MarandMedia 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing too! But I guess since he included the values we can do the ratios to figure out the actual rejection amounts for each mic.
@MarandMedia
@MarandMedia 4 жыл бұрын
Actually I went ahead and ran the numbers for rejection from front to side and front to rear and here’s what I got. Looks like the most drop off is obviously from the Rode NTG5 Decrease in dB from front to side: Rode ntg5 24.4 Azden SGM-3500L 20.5 Sennheiser MKH 416 18.9 Rode ntg3b 17.7 Deity S-Mic 2 17.4 Azden SFM-3500 17.2 Rode NTG8 14 Sennheiser MKE 600 12.2 Deity S-Mic 2s 9 Rode NTG4+ 8.6 Rode NT5 4.5 Octava MK-012 4.4 Decrease in dB from front to rear: Rode ntg5 25 Sennheiser MKH 416 17.9 Rode ntg3b 17.8 Azden SGM-3500L 17 Azden SFM-3500 16 Rode NTG8 15.7 Sennheiser MKE 600 13.9 Rode NTG4+ 12.5 Rode NT5 10.9 Deity S-Mic 2 7.2 Octava MK-012 6.9 Deity S-Mic 2s 3.2
@nexuses1
@nexuses1 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarandMedia is that good if you don't want to hear yourself catching your breath in a run and gun film?
@AlPortensis
@AlPortensis 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the effort you clearly put in this video! Plus: Man, that background! Awesome!
@j.muller7223
@j.muller7223 4 жыл бұрын
The sensitivity-noise-relation is wrong explained. A condenser mic can have a high sensitivity and also a high self noise level.
@MarcReichert
@MarcReichert 4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right. In addition, the type of signal used to measure sensitivity was not specified. I think it was white noise that is not suited to simulate normal use. This is why it is usually measured at 1 kHz. The measurement of off-axis rejection with white noise also hides important properties. Also, I'm pretty sure the sensitivity of the Rode NTG4 + is wrong, as I have more confidence in the manufacturer's datasheet than in this test (NTG4 + should be 8.5dB less than the NTG5). Still, the sound comparisons are useful.
@SoundSpeeds
@SoundSpeeds 4 жыл бұрын
Everything was wrong except the thumbnail.
@j.muller7223
@j.muller7223 4 жыл бұрын
@@SoundSpeeds that’s possible. I stopped watching after the sensitivity part. 😅
@messianicrogue
@messianicrogue 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarcReichert You have to love autocorrect, Rode being changed to ridden is funny
@AudioforContentCreators
@AudioforContentCreators 4 жыл бұрын
@@SoundSpeeds Allen, I'm a big fan of your work. I'd love to introduce you to my audience of audio-curious folks. Would you object to a livestream conversation on my channel about why these tests were so wrong, and generally unhelpful in choosing a mic? It should be noted that I love Caleb and learn a ton about video and lighting from his channel. But these audio tests were obviously missing the mark.
@ErikThureson
@ErikThureson 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, been thinking about this very thing recently. Appreciate the constant value you bring!
@mrosenblatt
@mrosenblatt 4 жыл бұрын
As an FYI, there's a huge room node in your opening scene around 125hz. If you put a 31band EQ and notch out 125hz by about 3-6dB, that'll clean up that room resonance. It sounds like a reflected frequency.
@brianlambert3271
@brianlambert3271 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I wish you had given the Sennheiser MKH 50 a try, too.
@ensemb
@ensemb 4 жыл бұрын
Catastrophically wrong test. The polar pattern should be assessed in an anechoic chamber or in extreme cases outdoors. Sound blankets for such measurements are not helpful. You measured reflections. Interference tubes do not suppress coherent reflections. Microphone sensitivity is only important if you have a bad noisy recorder. Much more important is the self noise of the microphone. Finally, rate the sound quality with a terrible bluetooth speaker is a disaster. In this video, all microphones are good in their own way. Even this long mic NTG8 is good. It is needed to work in a very noisy environment. You definitely don't need it. I'm glad you chose a microphone that really suits you.
@andreasbuder4417
@andreasbuder4417 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t take you seriously, if you are hyperboling in every sentence. Try it a little toned down.
@katlis
@katlis 4 жыл бұрын
I love my MKE 600, glad to see it ranked well. Highly recommend picking up a used one on eBay.
@mrshaheedmalik
@mrshaheedmalik 4 жыл бұрын
MKE 600 is good, but not for indoor. Great for the price for outside.
@jimgsewell
@jimgsewell 4 жыл бұрын
Like you, I’m pleased with the MKE 600. I picked up a couple of used ones on eBay. I run each of them through its own DBX 286S. Also use a dbx 231S for equalization.
@patriotbarrow
@patriotbarrow 4 жыл бұрын
I think Azden is a really underappreciated manufacturer. Most of the stuff they make is rock-solid.
@captureinsidethesound
@captureinsidethesound 4 жыл бұрын
RODE M5’s in stereo cross pattern: Great natural stereo sound but also clear in mono (narration) if the stereo tracks are consolidated and centered. I’ve noticed most content creators seem to lack knowledge on how sound works and have little DAW experience. I would never spend +$200 on a microphone for field recording because after proper EQ and compression, you will be surprised how technique wins every time, regardless of the mic design. I’m referring to strictly field recording though.
@thebusinessfirm9862
@thebusinessfirm9862 4 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, excellent video - thanks for making it. Don’t know if you’re aware of the SE Electronics SE8 - which I bought earlier this year to boom over dialogue and works AMAZING. It is super sensitive, extremely low noise (for pencil condenser) and has a nice flat curve that delivers a rich sound even at boom distance. I looked at the RODE M5, RODE NT5 and other mics too and found the SE8 to be the best. Thanks again for the terrific content you create. Cheers.
@MakeKasprzak
@MakeKasprzak 4 жыл бұрын
One metric I wish you covered was distance. Rejection is great (I needed to know this too), but I've seen folks unhappy with the budget options because when you move just slightly away from the mic the tonality changes.
@TeddyRumble
@TeddyRumble 6 ай бұрын
Another reason I love the NTG3. Very forgiving mic. Pics up two voices in a two person set up very well.
@mreleven7826
@mreleven7826 4 жыл бұрын
My sennheiser mk 600 will work for the next 10 years at least .but will still watch your video .
@jsasa5668
@jsasa5668 4 жыл бұрын
I own the NTG3 and I can attest to the boost in the low end. I was aware of this trait but I knew I could work around it, and you can definitely make it sound good. When I bought it I didn't want to spend the extra $ to get the Sennheiser 416 even though I had used the 416 in professional shoots and found little not to like. It needed very little processing if used properly. I just thought I could just make the NTG3 work. I also liked that the NTG3 was more a bit more forgiving, not as directional, but if I could do it again, and I may very well sell or trade the NTG3 soon, I'd buy the Sennheiser and never look back. There are other fancy ones like Schoeps and so forth, but the 416 is a no brainer. Great video!
@TeddyRumble
@TeddyRumble 6 ай бұрын
I love my Rode NTG3, but I use it outdoors. For interior work, I use an AT4053b. I bought on a recommendation, and I immediately fell in love with the sound!
@JoshuaCassady
@JoshuaCassady 4 жыл бұрын
Dude. Solid thumbnail man!!! All those mics with that creamy yellow background. Loooovveeee it!!
@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joshua!!!
@innatemusic
@innatemusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! Just recently purchased the 416. Great sounding mic.
@grad-dd9zj
@grad-dd9zj 4 жыл бұрын
also interesting about the SENNHEISER MKE600 is, that it can be used both ways: phantom powered, or with an internal battery.
@DanielScottFilms
@DanielScottFilms 4 жыл бұрын
Love your lighting in the video - especially with the use of the cookie window simulation.
@Awrange
@Awrange 4 жыл бұрын
Hey nice video as always! For indoor recording you should have probably tested more small diaphragm mics with either hyper or super cardioid pattern like the Audix scx1-hc or the Audio Technica at4053b. But I guess you can never go wrong with the 416 ;)
@TeddyRumble
@TeddyRumble 6 ай бұрын
I'm surprised he was looking at shotgun mics for indoor use. Caleb, what were you thinking??? I purchased my AT4053b used, and my oh my, I immediately fell in love with the sound. No worry about room reflection problems. I first bought a Sennheiser ME66, and maybe I got a bad version (used) but I hated that mic!
@ToysThatMove
@ToysThatMove 4 жыл бұрын
It's like you're in my head. Been on the hunt for a new shotgun mic all week. Wow!
@hotshoestudio
@hotshoestudio 4 жыл бұрын
Great job with this video. Knowing how you are going to use your mic before picking one is what you don't see enough of. Cheers
@CaseyConnor
@CaseyConnor 4 жыл бұрын
Just a friendly reminder that if what you care about is not having hiss in your recordings, you shouldn't just worry about the sensitivity: the SNR/EIN spec for the mic is often the more important spec, assuming you're using reasonably good preamps. If you're using crappy in-camera preamps, sensitivity might be important to prevent hiss.
@8lec_R
@8lec_R 4 жыл бұрын
These are all xlr mics. All require phantom power. Which cannot be provided by most DSLRs or mirrorless cameras. So we can rule that out. Condensers: the noise that you hear is most likely to be the self noise. The lower the self noise of a particular mic, the cleaner it will be. Because condensers do not require as much gain as dynamics (for a studio setup like this, even a Focusrite Scarlett Solo which costs about 120 bux can provide more than enough gain required to any of the mics). So your point is absolutely correct
@Mike0193Azul
@Mike0193Azul 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison tests between so many mics these kind of videos are so helpful 💚
@JBoy340a
@JBoy340a 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. We have been using the Senn 416 in the booth, well a closet, for a while. Great sound. Picked it up as a package deal at B&H that included a Zoom H5 for an additional $50.
@unleavenedmovies
@unleavenedmovies 4 жыл бұрын
dude this is a great test. these are the same criteria i'd have if I were testing mics. I need good rejection and good sensitivity, don't really care about much else. thanks
@redbridgetuition2346
@redbridgetuition2346 2 жыл бұрын
Love the microphones on the yellow background. Very thorough review. We'll probably try out the Rode NTG5 when we have more in our budget...
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