Best & Worst Legacy Sequels - The Weekly Planet Podcast

[@claytonkipling9822]

James and Maso are the best legacy podcasters

[@SirAsdf]

"Legacy" sure is a fun way to say "old"

[@krishp1104]

I remember in the early days of youtube when I was young enough to wonder why people would upload videos with just audio and now I'm old enough to enjoy it

[@_its_lunar_]

I love my greying near middle aged men

[@timefluidscribbler]

@@krishp1104going from Mr Sunday main to weekly planet main does feel like that lol

[@STRANGEANATOMYBAND]

I read this a “Jesus and Maso are the best legacy podcasters” and I was like … yep.

[@maxcarr781]

Can’t wait for the legacy podcast The Weekly Planet: Generations starring James kids and 80 year old Nick mason

[@mattrandazzo5491]

Is 80 year old nick mason gonna be in the trailer and say a cool line

[@tappajavittu]

Can't wait for the spin off podcast before that. The Weekly Planet Babies.

[@KungFuWombat]

Finally, the Weekly Planet musical episode we never expected but have long awaited regardless.

[@SirAsdf]

18:33 Nothing says, "I have a real passion for this project," like "I am contractually obligated to give them a draft"

[@rig-zag]

Kevin Feige- We need a new Wolverine, someone short and stout.. Secretary- Jack Black is on the phone...

[@hada__02]

This but unironically

[@J.O.R.D]

​@@hada__02 I thought I was going to read a wolverine teapot joke 😂

[@Dorian_sapiens]

@@J.O.R.D Jack Black could tell the hell out of that joke.

[@Henez89]

But voiced by Chris Pratt

[@somebuddyX]

What about a teapot?

[@travisjordan3853]

I can't wait for the next Ant-Man film, "Ant-Man: Quality Over Quantumania"

[@matthemming9105]

Ryan Gosling as Dazzler. Calling it now.

[@li-limandragon9287]

@stevhen42Honestly Ryan and Margo as Gambit and Rogue is pitch perfect. Especially chemistry-wise. I know people want Keke Palmer as Rogue but I’m just putting it out there.

[@doodoo1756]

This is very minor and may not even register to most, but am I the only one who wants a "dark mode" version of the background image for The Weekly Planet? I know it's a podcast, and you listen to it more than you look at it, but as a listener who likes to have it on my TV, I sometimes wish it wasn't such a bright image with a white background.. just a minor gripe I have lol

[@trvrsoutdoors]

I know that this isnt ideal, but have you tried changing your tv settings to be darker while your tuning in? Might even be able to have presets setup.

[@ynhsant]

yes!

[@NextToToddliness]

Who knew Maso had the voice and register of an angel. Speaking of angels, I think the only real reason people are upset about this new Crow film is because they only know of the property through the Brandon Lee films. I grew up in the early-90's and loved the comic. I'm excited to see this new one.

[@jonbaxter2254]

Man, the loss of Cracked was hard felt. Loved that website.

[@taylorgayhart9497]

I miss Cracked’s KZbin channel!!

[@drjwww]

One legacy sequel that's very conspicuously missing from the list: PSYCHO and PSYCHO II (and III), with 23 years between I and II, and of course with Anthony Perkins (and Vera Miles) resuming their original roles. Then, of course, there's the TV legacy, BATES MOTEL, with Freddie Highmore and Vera Farmiga.

[@luckyspurs]

I feel like more people under 30 have seen the Red Letter Media review of Psycho II than actually seen Psycho II. And I don't even know if people under 30 watch Red Letter Media.

[@jamjams4902]

The Matrix 4 elevated the franchise while also being a bad movie. In my opinion what elevates it is when Neo meets up with old lady Jada and he is sad that nothing has changed. But she says no, lots has actually changed and he tours the city and sees that machines are working with humans, the machine empire has crumbled due to the deal they made with humanity that is still intact and they're even trying to bring back things that were lost like plants and animals. It showed that there was a payoff for the first three movies and Neo's sacrifice in the end - he broke the cycle.

[@CYeoung]

you explained it better in this comment than the movie itself

[@lyndsaybrown8471]

As soon as you said, "he is sad," I was expecting this to be a Blue Harvest joke. I appreciate the restraint. However, not a lot of people know this, but seeing the plants growing being the cure to Neo's depression actually led to the working title of the movie to be "Blue Harvest" which was also the working title of Star Wars.

[@RusPitman]

Matrix 4 was bad. Also it was bad on purpose which is the worst kind of bad.

[@Dorian_sapiens]

@@junker-f3m Lextorias made a video a couple years ago with that exact title. I haven't watched it, but youtube has recommended it to me a few times. Maybe that's ground zero?

[@eyespy3001]

@@junker-f3mIt can be both, which is what’s so jarring about it. There’s no consistent tone. I get the sense that the Wachowskis had a great idea, but the studio execs wanted none of it. They just wanted the guy doing the thing and characters saying the thing. So one Wachowski bowed out due to frustration, and the other, she said “fuck it,” and crammed all the studio notes in there amongst the better story and didn’t care if they stuck out like a sore thumb.

[@Khost__]

I wish I could find other podcasts as good as this. I've already gone through your entire catalogue here on YT I need more WP fix

[@Darth-Turtle]

Get their subscription Big Sandwich, there’s so much more content on there it’s a gold mine

[@nyyfandan]

The main thing with a legacy sequel that isn't mentioned is the intent, in my opinion. Jurassic world, for example, was made with the intent of banking on nostalgia but they also still wanted it to be removed enough that it attracts new fans and doesn't alienate people by being a direct follow up. Same thing with Star Wars episode 7. That's what makes it a legacy sequel versus just a late sequel.

[@imanoldurango8213]

My dumb brain activates whenever I see a dinosaur so I actually really enjoyed all the Jurassic world movies 😂 can’t help it. Jurassic park is the first movie I have a memory of. Loved it ever since I was a child

[@eyespy3001]

A _legacy_ implies that there’s a whole new generation carrying the torch, and not necessarily the same characters continuing on new adventures. With that in mind, The Force Awakens is a perfect example of a legacy sequel, while a story like Top Gun Maverick isn’t really, since it’s continuing the story of Maverick directly.

[@SaulGMV]

Charlie Clausen is right, Top Gun Maverick is just the Ghost Busters Afterlife for dads and filmbros

[@zombiehampster1397]

I think you all have a great chemistry and have lightning in a bottle with this. You help me get through the work day.

[@luckyspurs]

And think, it might never have happened if Mr Sunday hadn't been having an emotional breakdown at how stressful being a teacher was on a Melbourne tram one day.

[@zombiehampster1397]

@@luckyspurs I had no idea that having an emotional breakdown on a tram could be so beneficial :)

[@6tiple6ix6afia]

@zombiehampster1397 Lightning in a bottle?? They have had two simultaneously successful YT channels for almost a decade

[@steveheronofficial]

1:28:52 When i heard Maverick, my brain shat and immediately thought they were talking about the Mel Gibson film from the 90s.

[@patrickmike2524]

Now all I want from the Blade movie is Mahershala Ali doing a Dick Van Dyke inspired British accent

[@henryglennon3864]

Guest starring Don Cheadle's character from Ocean's 11!

[@patrickmike2524]

@@henryglennon3864 Rhodey goes undercover pretending he's from London town

[@CptnAwsmBalls]

1:38:25 Admiral Chainsmoker. The dragon from Damsel is voiced by Admiral Chainsmoker guys.

[@TheKingOfRooks]

The best legacy sequel is James and Maso being replaced with Cyborgs who never get tired and have 2 billion ideas a day

[@lyndsaybrown8471]

Podcasters need to unionize so they don't use AI to destroy their own profession.

[@TheKingOfRooks]

@lyndsaybrown8471 AI James counterunionized and since he's so smart he did it last year and got well-established with all of the officials and their families already. Vote AI James he's 150% more James than Human James, and he comes with Nickbot.

[@patrickcasey3973]

Fantasia 2000 is absolutely distinct from the original Fantasia. It was different musical pieces and new animation.

[@oops6876]

We can’t expect Mason to know a thing about Disney animated films lol

[@michaeljeacock]

well, the budget for Deadpool Camoes can't be that much if it wasn't enough for Vinnie to suit up again. if they were giving a quarter of a million for a day's shooting there is no way he wouldn't have done it.

[@flywheelshyster]

Have I already had my coffee? yes. am I willing to have a second cuppa while listening to the boys? also yes. why are my algorithm comments always about coffee? cause its liquid gold, baby, its liquid gold

[@ellaisplotting]

I'm not into coffee, but I appreciate your enthusiasm for it!

[@Drak976]

I'm going to give myself a coffee ground enema in honor of your passion for it and I shall became a liquid gold fountain.

[@mulraymanners]

If you lads like listening to DnD realplay podcasts, there's one called rude tales of magic, the creator of Dr McNinja is one of the players. the DM is Branson Reese who does the Swanboy comic

[@Kango234]

I know they are just being goofy, but I would say Cobra Kai is less "forget about the past" and more "reexamine the past" and really think if you were as good or bad as you thought you were.

[@half-lifer5761]

Don’t forget Mad Max: Fury Road 🤩

[@heatherjones6647]

Talk singing is called recitative "re ci ta teeve". It drove me crazy in Phantom.

[@somebuddyX]

The funny thing about them talking about Maso's first Superman comic is they had that same discussion in the 2016 Q and A and in both James wonders if it's like "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?" I only listened to that Q and A for the first time this week so I just found the repetition of that really fascinating.

[@seanrowe6973]

Listening to James trying to explain Alex Cross to Mason is GOLDEN! =)

[@happiaxxident]

Left a like for playing Star Wars Rogue Squadron on my Nintendo 64; back in da day.

[@HorseJoint]

This is a damn good Podcast. Funny & Informative.

[@J.O.R.D]

1:32:01 James's rant and Maso's truthful responses combined is hilarious 😂😂

[@PoneDGuyton]

Bad boys 2 being called bad is crazy. Both are classics

[@ashleystahl7711]

Idk if direct to video sequels ppl should be considered legacy sequels. I think legacy sequels, either realtime or movie time, should have a significant (years for sure) time passage. Also must tie loosely to any previous film (not direct continuation as that's a sequel). I just had a question pop up writing this...can a direct sequel to a movie have a legacy sequel and not just the original movie?

[@brucemichaelwentworth3857]

I think Ryan gosling would make a pretty good Scott Summers / Cyclops

[@li-limandragon9287]

I say leave Cyclops for Henry Cavil or another dude. Gosling would be the best Gambit.

[@WalkingDistance8]

Fantasia 2000 was 100% a new movie. It was a collection of completely new animated shorts.

[@RusPitman]

Gosling will be Corn of Coblin. He already has the corn cob abs.

[@jimjam7928]

19:40 "The Mandalorian v Grogu" caught me off guard. XD

[@MrOtistetrax]

There was going to be an Eternals 2? I thought they pretty much wrote that idea off after opening weekend of the first one. Ryan Gosling will be the recast of Kang and Danny DeVito as new Logan.

[@kingfield99]

I don't hate that.

[@mattconnor1988]

#DannyDeVitoforWolverine its what the fans want

[@li-limandragon9287]

Chris Claremont legit envisioned Danny DeVito as Wolverine.

[@CrocvsGator]

Fantasia 2000 is indeed an entirely different movie.

[@JvS1711]

Listening to the whole "passion of the christ 2: it ain't the trinity yet, baybeeeeee" bit on good Friday was a hoot.

[@highvoltage7797]

Fantasia 2000 is completely new material 🙃

[@Robocopnik]

Doesn't it have one repeated segment? Near the beginning IIRC.

[@alastairmckenziepro]

I recommend "I Came By" a Netflix movie. A solid film that probably slipped by everyone in 2022, probs due to the Rotten Tomatoes score, but I think its a good fresh take!

[@Ruleof2Review]

Matrix Resurrections is absolutely fantastic and under-appreciated. Not intentional bad, genuinely great. Absolutely elevates the material. Surprised and disappointed you guys weren’t able to understand that. I didn’t see that coming. 😞

[@AHZUH]

Guys the MRU was right there. Marvel Rumour Universe.

[@hjcinc1]

Insane that the list didn’t have The Muppets! It was the first and best legacy sequel possible

[@RandomMan_1]

So but. Does the Crow come out in June or in Dune? I couldn't tell what you were saying? HELP

[@RusPitman]

I know it’s confusing but Dune 3 releases in June and The Crow cameos in it before his stand alone movie which comes out in Crowvember.

[@skarmachild]

anyone old enough to remember when they had the extended intro music?

[@RamBear88]

This podcast used to shoot up my butthole!!

[@MrTwon1610]

​@@RamBear88...with red hot comicbook movie news

[@wingdings369]

Let's do a sequel now to The Color of Money where a grizzled Tom Cruise teaches Timothee Chalamet to become a pool hustler

[@GuanoLad]

I liked Damsel too. It's like a new take on the 80s fantasy film Dragonslayer, and done very well. I find Millie Bobby Brown's Netflix oeuvre to be well within my wheelhouse.

[@bbrbbr-on2gd]

Audience One Bit Of News! -- Sony is re-releasing all the Spider-Man movies to theatres starting in April!

[@medianicko]

U2 reference! My dad would be proud. 38:33

[@hellsapoppin9326]

The template for legacy sequels was actually set by the muppet movie with Jason Segel. Many forget but that's the one that started at all.

[@magicalex95]

Tron Legacy came out first?

[@SmedZeppelin]

The I don't give much of a toss about The Crow reboot looking -different-, I just think it looks BLAND. Dull colours, generic bad guy in suit, flat cinematography.

[@seanrowe6973]

Guys, the Crow trailer is a cash grab for the John Wick dollars with little to none of the atmosphere, mood, or character that made the first The Crow movie so memorable. Every big male lead wants a hyper violent movie and studios want to cash in while they can.

[@Kango234]

Yeah I have never seen the original and have no nostalgia for it, but this new one looks so generic and the main guy looks like a loser. I like that the guys try not to fall into internet hate trains, but I also feel like they overcorrect and write people off as fanboys whenever they see people complaining about something even if it's deserved. I remember Mason even defending the Netflix Cowboy Bebop which is something I don't even think the actors would do at this point.

[@Dorian_sapiens]

The movie isn't out yet, so it seems perfectly reasonable to me to avoid getting too worked up about a trailer.

[@seanrowe6973]

Agreed @@Dorian_sapiens

[@johnskrip7174]

@@seanrowe6973 Yeah like even now people are complaining about set photos for Superman and how his costume and Guy Gardner’s look bad, which I don’t think they do, but we haven’t even seen them in the movie yet, they’re just set photos. People need to chill.

[@lowelldolney2986]

I would say Obi-Wan is more of a Legacy Sequel than Star Wars Episode 7: Another Star Wars. Obi-Wan had a "previously on..." montage that made the prequels seem good. However, Episode 7 if you hadn't seen the other movies you would at least think it was original!

[@batmanbear]

The best talk-sing band is Cake, imo.

[@ericripley4716]

17:05 wait, there was talk of a guyver reboot?

[@Eclectic_City]

Okay... Hear me out... The new Star Wars could be a prequel reboot, and they call it...wait for it... THE Blue Harvest!

[@What.99]

I still want Danny Devito as Wolverine. And no, I don’t care that he’s 79 years old. I’m really hoping he’ll play a Wolverine variant in Wolverine & Asshole, but I doubt it’ll happen. Jokes aside, I actually want Henry Cavill to play Cyclops. He’s the perfect height and has the right physique, and it would nice to see a live-action Cyclops that’s jacked like in the comics, instead of a smaller actor that needs platform shoes like James Marsden in the original trilogy, or teenager version like in the reboot quadrilogy.

[@J.O.R.D]

The every 7 days planet 🤣👏🏾 we would ALL subscribe

[@taurinstraiter2325]

YOU MISSED ruling out "Predators (2010)" because of your arbitrary rules. I'm surprised the list didn't include that movie, maybe because of the "Alien vs Predator" movies? But was it already canon for this 2010 movie in particular? Or only after the easter egg in "The Predator (2018)"?

[@chrissullivan6572]

Finally the music episode

[@smacksalad]

There is a rumour Im going to be a Wolverine in a blue coat.

[@ellaisplotting]

Whoa

[@benlewis2514]

The Batman should not cross over at all and should be left in its own universe

[@li-limandragon9287]

At most you could bring in grounded heroes like Green Arrow or Question.

[@J.O.R.D]

Why am I thinking Podcast was the new character In M4trix they would take the piss out of 😂

[@derekdunbar6352]

Hot take: I think the Force Awakens is actually perfect. Personally, I would have liked it to deviate from the OT more, but to be a success, it really had to be a retread on some level. The problem imo is what came AFTER. As the first movie in a rebooted legacy trilogy, TFA strikes an impressive balance of old and new that - if it had been properly built upon - would be remembered as one of the best Star Wars movies, I think.

[@InvertedFreeSolo]

Woah, timeout, Live Free or Die Hard is awesome. Especially the Unrated version.

[@BaronVonHardcharger]

Gosling would be a great Longshot in the Mojoverse. Could get a Captain Britain that way, too, if the Excalibur team got in somehow...

[@Gargarks]

Okay, I have been watching for years and I'm finally gonna ask. What does, "grab that gem," mean?

[@davidblank420]

It's the mates and brothers!!

[@thewraithwriter22]

Was Fury Road not on that list?

[@Leahcimmichael]

Pick more dumb articles. This was way too fun. You had the perfect slogan for an American Pie sequel

[@Code20Man]

I wish they would make an entire bonus podcast just reading and discussing random low-effort internet articles. That would be the best one.

[@factualopinion4275]

Predators 2010 gotta be my favorite legacy sequel

[@ynhsant]

need dark mode version of podcast screen

[@Youknowmikekhan]

Please do the new gentlemen show and talk about their outfits

[@ellaisplotting]

Yesss fashion time with Maso!

[@coleanagnost]

Vin Diesel just wants to make DnD movies

[@shabberto]

MELBOURNE CINEMA - THE ASTOR !!! Can't believe it's not mentioned sooner. It's the #1 coolest cinema in Melbourne. It's in st Kilda East on chapel St and Dandenong Rd near Windsor station. 70mm projector, mostly only celluloid screenings and only one gigantic screen. Super special place. Art Deco heaven.

[@ratskraad5890]

U better be saying great things about tron

[@jakeinfactsaid8637]

I’ve never seen either crow movie, but I just watched both trailers back to back and the new one looks noticeably worse in tone, visual style, and character. The KZbin comments are right, it looks like another worse remake.

[@Kango234]

Right there with you, the new one seems devoid of any tone and the guy just looks so generic. At least it got me to go look up the old one.

[@paulv8773]

I think the mass firing wasn't College Humor, but Cracked, right?

[@SKULLKR3W]

I’m pretty sure it happened at both but I think college humor more recently

[@kpeckham1]

Dropout TV is the single best streaming value on the internet. Period.

[@TheMightyMidget]

Very good Bub, Very good. Tremendous mauling.

[@DaDestroyer1986]

“Disenchanted” is an awful legacy sequel. And somehow didn’t make the list.

[@Iioncreek]

For some reason I couldnt find this on youtube yesterday

[@kingfield99]

How long until we get a Batman version of No Way Home with all the living ( and probably a few deceased ) Batmens.

[@imanoldurango8213]

Lmao Christian bale would never sell out like that. Itd be hilarious tho cuz they’re all so serious just in different octaves 😂

[@JustWandering]

That's essentially what The Flash was attempting, no?

[@kingfield99]

Thats what would make it fun!@@imanoldurango8213

[@kingfield99]

no one saw that movie though@@JustWandering

[@Elfenlied8675309]

@@imanoldurango8213 Christian Bale has a quote that he only did Thor because his kids desperately wanted to see dad in a comic book movie. I could definitely see him doing another Batman. He's even said if they can convince Chris Nolan to do a 4th Batman he'll be in it.

[@MarcCoteMusic]

How dare you slag off on Scream 6. I was an extra in that movie. You can clearly see the back of my head in the restaurant scene at the beginning. This obviously elevates the movie to at least equal the previous five. Which I've never seen. In fact, I haven't seen 6 either, save for the part I'm in... and that, only because I didn't have to watch more than a couple of minutes in to catch it. But still...

[@TheRagingBean]

I think Ryan gosling will play the character they start drawing like him first in the comics

[@ataridc]

I like the riddick movies. The last one starts with like 20 minutes of no dialogue which i thought was a fun creative choice. They just never got off the ground like vin diesel hoped.

[@reposetion]

James and Maso extended multiverse coming soon

[@flintmat90]

Hot Scoop or Shot of Poop. Michael Cera is getting cast as magneto and will be in the Fantastic Four

[@kinyemibola4386]

These weirdos make my Mondays!😂

[@hoseaxci2419]

Is rocky balboa a legacy sequel?

[@wbennin]

Blues Brothers 2000 is my most hated legacy sequel.

[@6tiple6ix6afia]

An hour of "it's not a real movie" Fantastic content

[@gerzeeboi88]

Fantasia 2000 is not a re release

[@yapdat7036]

You didnt think about this did ya, Im Paul Newman

[@happiaxxident]

OMG! Leo DiCaprio is coming back for Critters 5!

[@ER-rh4ye]

It's the Paddington prison