Beta Details in GTA IV's Second Trailer - Spot the Beta Differences 2

[@jakethreesixty]

"We got a report of a reckless driver, license plate uhhh... Liberty City"

[@Ian_Paneque]

That actually is in the game, right? I remember hearing it or I'm just dumb :v

[@LukeGB003]

Everyone gets a citation for reckless driving.

[@JonasTisell]

Ian Paneque no

[@jakethreesixty]

@@Ian_Paneque nope unfortunately, but I can hear that dispatcher say it in my head

[@channe3049]

"Arrest everyone that has the Liberty City license plate!!"

[@madjs1]

Two words: Fingerless gloves

[@jakethreesixty]

Even the art on the PS3 game disc shows it

[@cannedbeverage7687]

@@jakethreesixty Doesn't every art show them?

[@extremeking425]

Just put it on your GTA Online character

[@alterego9791]

Gloveless fingers

[@Wol1427]

I remember using a save editor for the Xbox 360 version to get the fingerless gloves on Niko, his beta hair, and the maximum amount of money. It ended up giving me the 100% completion achievement although I didn't 100% the game. If you switch your clothes too much, like a certain suit or outfit, the gloves would be removed, so I mostly stayed in the default outfit to keep them on, and reloaded my save file with them active if they were taken away by certain outfits. The gloves aren't a myth, you've just got to be desperate enough to get a save editor. Lol

[@JulianSauco]

About the reflections: they were dumbed down for the final build probably to performance issues. Due to this, the bottom part of the “cubemap” is just dark. That’s why streets arent rendered in reflections but buildings and trees are. You can confirm this even more by looking at the Oracle and the Taxi appearing in the first trailer. Those reflections were way better, and they were reintroduced for GTA V

[@psywarveteran]

Heh, that Ratman nostalgia.

[@dodovomitory3496]

I remember someone doing videos about finding him. got me spooked

[@Thatguy55595]

dispatchnig vomitory it’s fake

[@billymercury3897]

DaviDustin

[@estellaruiz3125]

Even the subway driver says “there was a guy in the sewers.”

[@SSaNNEE100]

Yeah I remember too but these days I just understand that those were the primetimes of trolling and faking all these easter eggs and mysteries.

[@andreaskowalsky6266]

Beta to final release: *"Perhaps here things will be different."*

[@FirstUsername]

Poop

[@purewater4057]

I feel like half of the 22GB this game takes up are because of all the unused game files

[@AB-vy4eu]

Beta files are like kb or something

[@HDTomo]

@@AB-vy4eu r/woooosh and no

[@AlamoOriginal]

@@HDTomo yeah it is, max its mb

[@Chick2106]

@@HDTomo r/ihavereddit

[@clawzx1195]

@@Chick2106 least he did the four os

[@C4-620]

The fact that the train cab was once modeled and had a driver seems to suggest that maybe we would've been able to hijack the trains similar to how it worked in San Andreas. Would've been fun if we could derail em too.

[@classicafl]

Some NPCs hold Binco bags.

[@streetsking1]

9:00 vice city girl on grafitty and gta 3 character

[@razhel7165]

is that building resembles 5pointz in real life?

[@vincepale]

You're right. In 2007 I just about crapped my pants thinking, "WAIT, YOU CAN SEE **INSIDE** THE CARS?!?!"

[@aceman0000099]

God damn. I was only 6

[@InternetRob]

14:57 nice little touch at the end lol

[@cjc111koolkat]

Ayy rob

[@Slonitram]

13:39 There is another trailer for GTA IV that shows Niko getting wasted. It's the fourth one, where around a minute into it, there's a shot of Niko getting blown up by a car exploding next to him and they go into a slow-motion shot for it too. Actually, showing the player character dying in the trailer is something that some devs do nowadays. Doom 2016's gameplay trailer (the one they showed at E3) ended with Doomguy getting his face smashed in by a Revenant. EDIT: Here's the GTA IV trailer and the timestamp for when it happens for those who are curious: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3_VnmqtptOjjKs

[@UseroneGaming]

Yeah, I always felt it was weird. To me, cannonically, at least, Niko’s story kind of loses value if he’s cannonically “immortal” and always recovers from any injury at the hospital. No wonder authorities think he’s dead and don’t even come to take his guns away. Lately, I find replaying the games more fun if I reload if I die, instead of continuing from the hospital. Somehow, it feels more immersive and gives more weight to my choices. I think GTA IV would benefit from an optional “hardcore mode” or something like that, where if you died you had to reload a save file or something similar.

[@ytaken154]

14:00 that phone model is used for Roman's phone in the first mission, you can see it when Roman's leaving the apartment

[@cobaltodesertico1749]

Ytaken it looks like a oversized Nokia jaja

[@VladislavZharkov]

13:38 And then later in trailer #4 they show Niko getting blown up while getting into a car (Stallion?) at 0:59. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@JohnDonovan1968]

A GTA IV Remastered for Xbox one & PS4 and next gen would be so great... But no... The new Rock$tar wants to milk GTA V Online until the ends of of the earth.

[@KingRahG]

I feel the same way, Rockstar gives us games like red dead 2 and than go back to making GTA V again for the third time... so inconsistent

[@BagzAndPresident]

no

[@andreaskowalsky6266]

In my opinion, it doesn't really make a change in both case. I think playing a game that isn't new but would run faster on a more recent console is still milking it. I guess what we really want is a new title (GTA or not) and new content. I personaly still play GTA IV on my Xbox 360 for its different content and quality than GTA V (which I don't really feel to be worse or better, just different and more content in some cases). But I guess because GTA IV is older and a bit forgotten or unfamiliar to some people, Rocktar would have got less criticism for re-release it on Xbox One/PS4/PS5/Xbox Next-gen. But that would have been still not a new game.

[@Zerdical]

I'm playing gta 4 remastered right now, it's called cryenb

[@thehylianloach9473]

billion dollar revenue is hard to consider giving up. Blame the idiots spending all their money on shark cards.

[@RastaGamesful]

GTA 4 is one of my favorite games of all time. They left so many details in the game!

[@denlillavatten.67yearsago82]

SA sucks

[@mcreary1247]

4:24 Just like what I pointed out on Discord few days ago, the LCPD traffic enforcement officers that didn't appear in the final game Originally those toll booths were going to be manned by the LCPD traffic officers, but instead we got the LCPD regular officers in the final game Anyway, thanks a lot for the shoutout dude! I appreciate it

[@bermaingim0172]

Hehehe, nice to finally know that your name is mentioned on the video. Congrats!

[@Bahraini_Carguy]

I honestly wish if a Beta build of a GTA game ever comes public but knowing R* and overall "Beta Build" communities, that won't happen anytime soon sadly.

[@JukoYT]

Maybe if somebody could get dev ps3 or something (with gta 4). It happened with bully and supposedly there is a debug gta sa build somewhere out in the wild

[@classicafl]

@@JukoYT theres one too of GTA 4 somewhere.

[@taylorfrost6691]

Epic bad thing is this game was developed when the fat ps3 was around so the chances of the dev system even working and not ylod is slim

[@MultiYippee]

RIP CarsonGT

[@classicafl]

@@MultiYippee oh yeah he was the guy with the r* ps3 dev kit with a gta 5 build on it. Sad what happened.

[@alex23324523]

8:52 the graffiti has the same guy in the title screen from gta 3

[@AdamR2137]

Yea this building has A LOT of previous gta characters fe. the twin from gta vc. It's a well known fact

[@sensacionsombria5125]

El Burro

[@randeli7785]

@Weeamer no shit

[@KelBShobra]

Ive already binge watched every video on badgers channel almost 3 times, excited every time he uploads, such an under rated youtuber

[@JukoYT]

9:14 mum mum i am in the video again.

[@veronicaliguori7396]

that's so Epic

[@JukoYT]

@@veronicaliguori7396 nice i see what you did there :)

[@ajemajh]

have an Epic day

[@JukoYT]

@@ajemajh thx, but the pun doesnt work anymore since i changed my yt name

[@SSaNNEE100]

But you are not in the game. You are in a youtube video surely but not in the video game.

[@TheVineWoodHustle]

5:06 I wonder if the reason his beard looks thicker, and his hair is more detailed, is because the trailer was filmed in-game before they removed the hair growth feature, which they scrapped for the final cut.

[@cobaltodesertico1749]

Can’t even believe LCS & VCS have numbered Licence Plates and IV don’t. Also the 3D Era Maverick... love it

[@JhonPittsburg]

Maybe it's a result of Rockstar moving to a new engine they hadn't quite fully got the grasp of yet - in fact, I would attribute a lot of the cut features in GTA IV to that

[@FreedomtowerStudios]

Badger Goodger: 2 more small things that were changed in regards to the light poles 1. In the 2nd Trailer at 0:29, you can see a traffic light mounted to the pole facing the camera, but in the final version, its not there anymore 2. In the 2nd Trailer at 0:41 and 0:44 there is a traffic light that is mentioned in this video with the green signs, but if you go to the location in the game, the signal has been removed.

[@milob.805]

10:15 - I believe that the guy getting beaten up is actually the model used for the 2nd thug in the final game.

[@larrybaygaming]

13:49 anchor guy actually looks like hes standing on the anchor with one foot placed in front of the other and leaning against it staring at the ocean. Pretty cool seeing that NPC's cant actually perch on things like this in the full game. I could be wrong but thats what it looks like

[@luissantiago5163]

Oh neato. Love vids like this. Appreciate the uploads

[@bige1644]

Most underrated GTA channel

[@megafrankenstien8049]

11:18 Ah the ratman myth my absolute favorite

[@MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz]

Imo, I prefer the Maverick having 2 blades on the main rotor instead of 4 blades.

[@9zard]

Midnight Club Still Cancelled Soz why are you always everywhere

[@dayburks]

9zard he’s allowed to be

[@xSpooKee]

Midnight Club Still Cancelled Soz hey i see you everywhere 😂😂

[@mcreary1247]

I do agree with that buddy, 2 rotor blades might look better just like the ones from GTA V Maverick in GTA V had 2 rotor blades

[@paulheap1982]

@@9zard you know, that means you are too?

[@CRAZED14hazed]

I really enjoy your content, I'm glad I was recommended you

[@-wack]

9:45 it was 2007. It could be that one of the videos used to be a lower quality so this was most likely missed due to video quality back then. We gotta remember some of us still used Composite cables back then, as for me I was still using a PS2 and a fat computer monitor

[@ainjuuuul0]

doin it old school

[@mirodinero7638]

Years after, I finally realize the niko bully maguire reference you made. Nice one badger! 3:41 Bully McGuire says “similar” in that same tone that badger says “different” No brainer that niko just so happens to look like bully McGuire

[@cinnamon4]

The second trailer reminds me of a warm summer evening back in 2017-2018. The colour gamma is so warm, so nostalgic.

[@thing.]

@A real bisexual petrol-head because the trailer has a resemblance and feel to what he has a memory of from 2017-18

[@NightRider1988]

Here's something shocking about the beta, that you never learned 1. I heard the map in the beta version was different, a peninsula on top of Alderney, different-zig zag shaped airlines in Francis International Airport, and a small-sized Middle Park. 2. Rockstar also hidden a mini game, a zombie apocalypse single player mode. Its like resident evil, and no its not undead nightmare. This mini game is called "Z Resurrection,'' if y'all seen those billboards. They also cut weapons, blood settings and even a revolver. Why they remove it, maybe its was too much and bloody

[@NightRider1988]

Interesting, I remember doing the same

[@mcreary1247]

Nice video there dude, those were such an interesting details from the GTA IV's second trailer Too bad some of those beta stuffs didn't make it in the final game

[@deadchanneldontwatch7347]

3:41 niko seems a year or 2 older than the final game

[@TheLukesterGaming]

Some very interesting finds there indeed, a great overall comparison of those differences between the GTA IV trailers and the release version itself too!👍👏

[@sensacionsombria5125]

Barbershops were originally ment to be in the game. Same with tattoo shops, in fact, there is on artwork of Niko driving a car and he has a chest tattoo, also a cross chain on his neck

[@HeySlickThatsMe]

Street signs weren't filled in because you can destroy then, meaning they would need to make a street sign model for every single street, in watch dogs on other hand Ubisoft completely removed the street signs in final game

[@HeySlickThatsMe]

@A real bisexual petrol-head Nah not what I mean, since they are destroyable, the traffic light + the sign and text need to be one mesh, so they would need to make 400 traffic light models with different text on it, which again back then would take space on xbox360, here I also compared watch dogs where they originally had the signs (without text) on street lights but removed them in final game from probably same reason or just laziness

[@9zard]

The funny thing about the stallion it has the dukes interior which is weird

[@TKnHappyNess]

ULP's voice changed again during the Doomsday Heist in Online, although one line he says in IV makes you think it's not the same guy, unless somehow he survived the shoot-out at the Kortz Center in V. He says there a hundred guys in the building who match the same description as him

[@adamdion7574]

At the end of the video, in that same last scene of the trailer, the guy talking on the phone says an unused line, and the voice is not heard at all in the game as well

[@MaxPlayle]

7:21 that’s correct. R* were having issues with a randomly generated plates, so went with a identical design for all cars.

[@payne8753]

Niko has beta face found in EFLC model, and also has beta hair texture for final hairstyle.

[@Quietscheball]

5:19 You can use a trainer and change Niko's haircut. You can also make him bald. Too bad you can't change them without mods/hacks

[@ROCKSTARMANIC12]

GREAT VIDEO BADGER! can't wait for your next "spot the differences" hell do all the HD GTA trailers!!

[@Enzo187]

accurate and realistic mirror reflections are something that game designers STILL can't do properly to this day. its always been a major challenge for them.

[@AnarchistGame]

13:59 this cellphone still in use but NPC'S are using.

[@YourJudgeLaw]

Incorrect.

[@wanilimbe]

_law Ray Boccino uses the phone and so does Johnny and many other NPC’s

[@logic533]

Fav channel and damn near my favorite game

[@Subsario]

Lmao that Ratman reference made me laugh and scream in fear at the same time

[@BlueShift2000]

I love those GTA IV videos from you! Keep up the good work.

[@Gdub33]

You're right about being able to climb up fire escapes in early development. I also remember that Niko was going to be able to crawl up power poles and light poles as well to get a better view of his surroundings but they completely removed it.

[@LucasEduardo-nh8nc]

0:41 this helicopter get that red light at left side? "Move up, ladies"

[@ShazenVideos]

The license plates and street signs remained empty because R* couldn't figure out a way to create real-time rendered dynamic text and deadline was coming so they decided to drop the feature. I remember reading that somewhere but I don't remember when or where. My guess is, that was one of many planned features, which were cut after the deal with Microsoft was made. As they had to develop now for two different consoles (and PC too?), they had to drop a lot of features to make the cut. I wonder how the game would look like when all features made it into the game.

[@youravggamer]

I love your videos. The production quality is incredible. I've been subbed for 1yr (I think)

[@Turtle3000]

Awesome vid, thanks Badger!

[@LucasEduardo-nh8nc]

Trailer "Move up, ladies" in 0:10 the Tug boat get a different color

[@YOEL_44]

2:00 Reflections are broken as hell on PC atleast, ENB might mostly fix that

[@super_slav91]

2 blades in the beta 4 in final for the heli

[@NeonWinchester83]

You are right about the randomly genersted numbers on plates! (They can still be found on some tankers)

[@TheM0nkeyBomb]

They warned you in the first trailer that things will be different

[@ntz2566]

8:40 There is that red motorcycle from GTA Vice City's game cover. You can see it on the wall next to Niko. That's kinda cool!

[@thatoneintrovert9618]

The voice lines for the train conductor are still used in the game, but not by that NPC.

[@WakanaGojo86]

Next Grand Theft Auto IV Trailer 3 : Move Up, Ladies.

[@c0c0_z0ckt8]

Do you think about comparing the gta 5 trailer to the finished game? After I watched this video I looked at the gta 5 trailer and there are a few things I saw on first sight that were changed. For example the police or ambulance

[@furiousdemon5713]

At 12:00, Niko has a duffel bag on him, and all the cars around him are opened. Could this be a cut failed deal or something?

[@a.j.9359]

Washington Heights?! Haha, I live in WH. That station in Northwood was supposed to be a mix of 125st based off the design and location for the Dyckman St as the train stays above ground all the way to the Bronx. Also the the bridge to Bohan is called Northwood Heights Bridge, not just Northwood. Makes me think if north part of Algonquin wasn't supposed bigger or narrow down more like Manhattan does.

[@KrzychuYea]

4:32 - That booth appears to have broken windows while still having intact windows in place

[@Supertron1]

To me, Niko looks gaunt in the final version of the game. Presumably Rockstar refined his appearance to convey that he's had a rough life, but i personally still prefer Niko's model in the beta version.

[@phaseshift943]

The magic GTA V will never achieve and capture. After 13 years IV is still the masterpiece.

[@whiteeagleforce2.040]

The guy and the anchor is actually a cool detail. It meant to show you a guy standing and leaning on the anchor enjoying the view.

[@folev_333]

Hello man! Can I use the footage from your video (11:11 to 11:25) in my video about Ratman? Please respond!

[@Two-Tier-Kier-y7q]

Funny fact about the dinner at 7:48 there are 2 people in that diner who still spawn that i assume would of been there in the full game , < with animations playing & then at 13:00 the steen light / post doesnt have any material / texture on it , its simply just all white other than the base & the button box

[@finalstarmanishere1430]

Damn, I was hoping for a third ferry video!

[@thajdz2466]

I like the longer videos bro theyre dope

[@arandomcarlover6009]

At 9:00 , there was Vice City's cover page lady on the graffiti wall

[@benlambert1962]

At 11:56 the sign on the train was supposed to be a neighborhood, but they cut it before release. (According to some game files)

[@LucasEduardo-nh8nc]

Trailer 3 1:30 final cutscene in clean weather, in final game is only with rain

[@LucasEduardo-nh8nc]

"Move up, ladies" 1:13 get a different helmet (this helmet can be used in online mode)

[@JhonPittsburg]

I think that phone model is still used during some cutscenes, isn't it?

[@estofadodepollo16]

3:24 is Eddie Low on the billboard?

[@MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz]

Joke!? Joke?! Eddie never jokes, Eddie needs to be taken seriously.

[@francescoromano2049]

Shot game: take a shot for each time Badger says “billboard” or “placeholder”

[@LucasEduardo-nh8nc]

Trailer 3 in 1:24 appear Niko and Roman with 2 guys, this can be from a mission removed from the final game (sorry my English)

[@LukeGB003]

14:04. My mum used to have an old Nokia Phone that look exactly like that. I think it was called a Nokia 1112

[@JamieTheEnby]

I wouldnt mind you trying doing this with the gta 5 trailers

[@JeyVGaming]

Will you do a trailer comparision video of GTA V next?

[@senormarston]

I like Niko's hair from the trailer better and who can forget the fingerless gloves? Man, I wish they were in the XBox 360/PS3 version

[@VictorYanezIII]

That moth man bit was badass

[@iamsplit45]

i realized that if you brake with the swat van, the tire marks come out as two tires. now it only has one tire on each side of the rear axle.

[@edwardhernandez6668]

8:56! YES you read that in a TIPS N TRICKS article I believe. I read the same thing!

[@first001]

I never was able to find that special someone 😞

[@RWoody1995]

Probably due to the little details (and because driving around in GTA IV is so fun; more fun than the infinity grip cars of GTA V) that I have completed GTA IV multiple times (3x vanilla, 2x TBoGT, 2x TLAD)...

[@JohnDonovan1968]

8:11 Lmao

[@Lardex]

Lol

[@JJacob-qf7vg]

at the airport in gta 4, the 2 container trucks have old license plate, if you manage to take a look at it, you will see

[@blitzoretro9522]

I’ve been waiting for this

[@robbie1528]

14:00 thats not a phone, THATS A ICE CREAM SANDVICH!

[@jimmyhopkins1]

Love these videos gta 4 is my personal favourite grand theft auto. Great stuff

[@LASMONN]

I can’t believe i have so much memory in one video game

[@eggsandcream9720]

Gta 4 is the first game i remember pre ordering…I was 4 and loved gta San Andre’s, so happy my parents always supported my childhood experience of drugs and violence