Better Call Saul - 4x1 Smoke -Group Reaction

[@tmujir955]

"Oh god Jimmy, don't let him live with this." 2 seconds later *"Well Howard, I guess that's your cross to bear"*

[@MarkHogan994]

Lmao.

[@qaareereader8221]

21:42

[@DanielWatches]

Jimmy whistling at the end paralleled Walt whistling after the death of the boy on the motorbike; Jesse and Kim's reactions were damn near identical. Crazy how poetic this story is.

[@GoliathWarfare]

It's that whistle of compartmentalizing emotions and not taking responsibility whatsoever.

[@shishiodun]

not true at all. Walt actually didn't care, Jimmy's is a defense mechanism

[@dunringill1747]

@@shishiodun You are correct, it is a defense mechanism for Jimmy. It isn't a parallel, but it is a callback.

[@abramsullivan7764]

You mean Drew Sharp

[@GoliathWarfare]

@@shishiodun It was a defense mechanism for Walt too. He did care when he killed Krazy-8 and caused Jane's death (he admits his guilt in the Fly episode), he just learned to bottle those emotions until he stopped caring eventually

[@better_call_sagar]

that last scene with Jimmy is beyond genius. I feel like nobody saw that coming

[@yakamen]

Saul Goodman didn't fall out of the sky ya know...so yes I completely agree.. Genius.

[@Samuel2oh9]

It’s a perfectly timed wake up scene reminding the viewer that Jimmy is no saint. He’s cold; he’s a criminal. This isn’t a good guy’s story. Just like breaking bad,. This is an anti-hero’s world, by the end of the show, you realize you’ve been rooting for the bad guy all along and have began to hate the characters in the story that are actually “good” people

[@chaost4544]

It was this moment I realized Howard was one of the best "good guy" characters in the breaking bad universe.

[@Grendel2403]

@@Samuel2oh9 The fact that the writers all know the audience so well and have such command over our emotions is something you rarely see in such remarkable fashion. Absolutely brilliant series

[@rc8s]

@@chaost4544 Actually, that award goes to Walt Jr.

[@weewer3369]

"Well Howard, I guess thats YOUR cross to bear" I don't think any moment up to this point had given me so much backlash. Season 4 is a fascinating exploration of guilt, trauma, and deflection, and it's the season that made me love this show even more than Breaking Bad.

[@Aaron_Kuroiwa]

Compartmentalization at its finest. This was probably the twistiest season of the series

[@Ivan-O]

They're finally being reminded this is Saul Goodman in the making.

[@zrifepsych]

The show's meant to do that. Gives you layers of depth to the supposedly funny fun guy from Breaking Bad

[@djsosonut]

That was the key moment I saw Saul. I busted out laughing. I'd missed him. Everything else until that moment had just been building blocks and flashes. But that was pure Saul.

[@chaost4544]

Going into this series I never thought I would be rooting for a millionaire corporate politician but Howard is one of the most sympathetic characters in the Breaking Bad universe, imo.

[@estebansalas9287]

When thinking about this ending, you have to remember Chuck's last conversation with Jimmy. "You're saying you have regrets. I'm saying, don't bother. At the end of the day, you're going to hurt everyone around you. It's what you do, you hurt people, over and over again. So what's the point of all the sad faces? Stop apologizing and embrace it. Honestly, I'd have a lot more respect for you if you did."

[@eskildscott7841]

wow he really took that to heart huh

[@jkhillhaha]

"Howard is a good dude, why are you guys being mean to him" BRUH. poor Howard

[@Mickey-lw8ud]

"Jimmy please say something", I was like ohh man he will say SOMETHING xd

[@mrblue4893]

Hahahahaha

[@aaronmenzo3070]

I don't know if you guys noticed, but at 19:38 in your video (Chuck's funeral scene) in the background, the orchestral piece playing is the same song Chuck was playing in episode 2 season 2 when he keeps fucking up playing the piano. Love that little detail.

[@johnny-vu6rl]

do you know what it’s called?

[@PitZagufull]

@@johnny-vu6rl Sicilienne

[@dunringill1747]

Who wouldn't want Mike as their security consultant? That guy is a Pro.

[@kissme1518]

I would want Mike as my security consultant for my porno stash.

[@austinfull8941]

10:45 Lydia said he's gonna be paid 10k a week for 20 weeks so it wouldn't attract suspicion. That's the money Mike stole from the Salamanca truck

[@elbruces]

Yeah, the job is just to launder his own money.

[@Chaosm03]

Chuck never truly leaves the show. His spectre continues to loom over the rest of the series.

[@derps0n839]

Chuck told Jimmy he never really mattered and was a waste of energy to worry about how he feels.

[@nezfromhki]

That doesn't excuse saying what he did to Howard.

[@derps0n839]

@@nezfromhki agreed. Jimmy is a deeply flawed character who had a dysfunctional relationship with his brother. I was just giving my thoughts about why he is acting that way.

[@lewa3910]

@@nezfromhki No it doesn't. Tho at this point without him doing these heinous things to his friends, it won't seem as believable that he turns into the crime enabling sociopath he is in breaking bad

[@nezfromhki]

@@lewa3910 Yeah, it fits his character arc and it's a well written dramatic twist but it's also shocking, because if a real person did that, it would be so wrong.

[@alnobleman2884]

@@nezfromhki yes it does

[@BrianSettles88]

The marketing for season 4 with Jimmy hiding behind a mask is so brilliant!

[@renx81]

"I don't know what to say, but I just wanna say..." -- Nahid 2020.

[@djsosonut]

That end scene was hilarious to me. Even thought I didn't see it coming, I completely understood that Jimmy foisted all his guilt and grief off onto Howard. And we finally got some of that Saul Goodman zen. It was a beautiful moment.

[@explodingplant2]

What I like about this series is long eloquent sentences are the mic drop moments. Hollywood mic drops are more like a one word response or a pun. Here you got "maybe your best course of action... would be to tread lightly" and "I guess that's your cross to bear" illiciting the 😱🎤💥 reactions at the end. 22:06 lmao @Dustin

[@MontgomeryWenis]

Your opinions of Howard and Jimmy will change yet again as the series continue. As with real life, these characters aren't stiff and stagnant. They're fluid and spectral. As for now, Jimmy is finally free of the unbearable and impossible pressure applied to him by Chuck. Jimmy did everything for him for years only to be told he didn't matter to his only flesh and blood. Chuck was incredibly abusive. He was a manipulative, deceitful, and treacherous brother who cared more for his own ego than his caretaker little brother. If you've never been in an abusive relationship, or known abuse in any way, I wouldn't expect you to understand how at peace it feels knowing you're safe. Jimmy is finally safe to be Jimmy.

[@spbspb2413]

Size matters, i don't think Bruce Lee could ever take down Ali.

[@chunkyMunky329]

SPB SPB Exactly, there’s a reason why fighters compete against people of similar build.

[@tenthtennant8935]

yea no doubt

[@anirudhk217]

I've seen Muay Thai fights in Asia where there is no weight limit, ie a 300 pound guy can take on a 180 pound guy and yeah there are skinny guys that beat the bigger guys. They don't go toe to toe they dance around them till one kick to the head.

[@MasterPoppers]

@@anirudhk217 The problem with that is Ali was an elite even amongst the heavy-weights. Further, Bruce Lee wasn't a "real" fighter. He did martial arts for movies, but he wasn't nearly as experienced as Ali in real matches. Ali beats Lee hands down.

[@havok6280]

@@MasterPoppers you need to do some research on Bruce Lee. He most definitely was a "real fighter".

[@travisvallemusic]

I think Jimmy's whistling is a call back to Breaking Bad when Walt whistled after they killed that kid during the train heist

[@xxpaygexx]

Howard choking up actually got me a little bit. I don't think we've ever seen that professional lawyer mask come off and it was absolutely heartbreaking.

[@CloudMountainJuror]

I'm so glad most if not all of them are part of the Howard defense squad, especially Nahid. The reaction to "your cross to bear" was better than I was expecting.

[@the_nikster1]

I find it interesting how quickly everyone on the couch ignored how selfish Howard was being this whole episode. yes, on the surface it looks like he was being helpful to Jimmy by taking care of Chuck's obituary and handling funeral arrangements, etc...however not once did he stop to think how what he was saying or doing would affect Jimmy. why do you think Jimmy stopped listening on the phone when Howard's obituary went on and on about Chuck's accomplishments? how do you think Jimmy felt when it was Howard who was informed first about Chuck's death and not him? and then that scene when Howard is trying to unload his guilt onto Jimmy, someone who just lost his only surviving blood relative...did he stop to think how Jimmy might be feeling? throughout this episode it was clear that Jimmy was dealing with his own guilt and so when Howard gave him an excuse to deflect it, he obviously took that chance. that's in his character. was it right? of course not. do I fault him for it? no. at the end of the day, Chuck made the decision to end his own life and neither Jimmy nor Howard are to blame. Chuck had a mental illness, pure and simple. I'm not saying I don't like Howard, I do, but I can't agree that he was completely blameless in this episode. I just can't. neither of them were.

[@jkhillhaha]

In fairness, Howard is currently writing the obituary for a man who just sued his firm and caused him to personally pay him off. Even ignoring that, it's also a bit unfair to criticize his reaction to such a sudden tragedy. Nobody would have perfect emotional timing, especially considering that Howard and Jimmy don't really have a personal relationship. "going on and on about Chuck's accomplishments" is basically the point of an obituary. It might - and does - make Jimmy feel worse, but he had to do it. It would be unfair to expect Howard to write an obituary for someone without at least reading it to his only blood relative. He didn't even ask Jimmy to make arrangements, a phone call is a pretty low expectation for an immediate family member.

[@libertarianvoter]

OK, Kim, calm down.

[@iliboxic7586]

@@jkhillhaha Howard and Jimmy pretty much have a personal relationship. Howard obviously liked Jimmy more than Chuck and considers him as friend. The tragedy is that Jimmy never realised that Howard was the only real friend (besides Kim) he had after Marco's death. By the way it was Jimmy who started this whole thing with the insurance but he's in denial about himself being responsible as much as Howard for Chuck's death. Howard is a selfish person (just like Jimmy) but this doesn't change that Howard always wanted to be a true friend to Jimmy.

[@alexhodgkinson6718]

They like to look at everything as black and white so I think shows like this can go over a lot of their heads and it's funny seeing them try to take sides and get all confused because it's a morally grey show and there *is* no black or white

[@AdeodatusX]

@@jkhillhaha like nikster said no one is to blame

[@Nick_Barone]

Ten Grand a week isn’t enough? Damn bro

[@israymervalentin-arias6313]

And for a no show job too.

[@900Parkwaydrive]

They're from California i'm pretty sure, so it probably doesn't mean shit because of the cost of living lol

[@HectorTWE]

@@900Parkwaydrive They're in Indiana

[@900Parkwaydrive]

@@HectorTWE Ah, my mistake.

[@Necron00b]

To be fair, whereever Nacho tried to dump those pills, clearly Gus knew something was up and would have found out.

[@akshit318]

I love that they love Howard... Can't wait for them to watch season 6...😂😂😂

[@SDot-tt8yf]

Oof "Something Unforgivable."

[@JamesEmery6]

You mean season 5

[@abramsullivan7764]

Can't wait for season five to be on Netflix.

[@JamesEmery6]

Abram Sullivan - you’re going be waiting a looooonnnnnnng time. They take forever

[@abramsullivan7764]

@@JamesEmery6 I know isn't it beautiful

[@azsugar8361]

The "i feel vindicated" in small text at the bottom left corner lol.

[@biglu323]

Suraj @10:45 - Any transaction of a check that goes well past $10,000 requires the bank by law to report it to the IRS, because large amounts of money changing hands is considered an indication of possible illegal activity. Mike's pay check amount is apparently limited to the most amount of income that a security consultant would make, as a way to avoid triggering suspicion from the government.

[@JD-iu3jz]

One cool thing about the intro is that the mall that Saul tells the cab driver to go to, is actually in Albuquerque not Omaha.

[@Alpha-bn6cj]

OOOOHHHHHH I would have never caught that

[@endorphinzz]

"He's no worse than his brother..." Chuck never went about trying to destroy an old lady's life for money. I'm thankful the show had Jimmy rectify that, but to even want to do it in the first place...sorry, but Jimmy is worse.

[@iliboxic7586]

Jimmy->Saul is the result of Chuck's disgusting hate against his own brother, after Jimmy did everything for him.

[@quintoblanco8746]

@@iliboxic7586 That is such a weird argument. There are many people who have a family member who is not perfect, very few of those people become criminals. Also, Chuck actually treated Jimmy quite decent. He helped him out when Jimmy was facing serious criminal charges and gave him a job. Chuck is unsympathetic, but it's odd how people in an attempt to make Jimmy a fallen hero portray Chuck as villain.

[@binarystateofmind2971]

@@iliboxic7586 Jimmy is his own person. Stop making Chuck a strawman for Jimmy's terrible choices in life.

[@SuperSymn]

@@quintoblanco8746 not gonna lie, the sentence "you never really mattered all that much to me" alone, said by my brother, I don't know what that would do to me.

[@daveqm1024]

@@iliboxic7586 The only thing Chuck's treatment of Jimmy justifies is Jimmy cutting ties with Chuck. Anything beyond that is Jimmy's responsibility.

[@explodingplant2]

Alllll of these characters getting destroyed "just because Walter White came in like a methed out hornet bouncing off walls and destroying shit" sums up my relationship with the show

[@clove2490]

i dont see how you could be confused about that last scene, jimmy takes the easy way out whenever he can. he wasnt dealing with the emotions by being a blank slate and howard gave jimmy the chance to shift the emotional blame jimmy took it thinking, "it wasnt the insurance thing that did it, it was how howard handled the situation"

[@LMarti13]

You know that quote from this show about just heading in whatever direction the wind is blowing? Yeah that's literally all the Normies at the end of this episode.

[@jeffevans9853]

Yeah, one of the great things about this show is rarely anyone 100% good or 100% evil. Like most of them, Howard is a great character because he isn't written to be the asshole all the time. Also, the bit with the D.E.A., in Spanish vowel sounds are run together so it is Day-Ay-Ah, but when said quickly it comes out Day-ah.

[@GMontag]

SSNs used to be determined by where you were born, but they started randomizing that in 2011.

[@maumautg]

Thats why I have Chuck as the best written villan in TV shows. We root for Jimmy to sucessed, we root for Chuck to fall.... but we are left upset with the heroe of the show, we start considering satelite villan, like Howard, an awesome person. I love this

[@Billdude21]

Companies hiring people to hack them is called ethical hacking.

[@No8Named8Shadow]

Mickey on any show on every episode: Everybody’s going to die this season/episode.

[@shotgundorothy]

Howard up until this point has had the appearance and demeanour of a sociopath - his "personality" being nothing but a front for HHM. Yet in that final scene he shows real sympathy and emotion. Instead Jimmy responds with the sociopathic line while Kim stares at him in surprise.

[@kissme1518]

He was the Gale of BCS

[@Matthew-pf7sb]

After the BB episode Better Caul Saul the writers were joking that Saul should have a spinoff and that idea stuck with Vince Gilligan. Originally BCS was going to be a half hour comedy.

[@gingetomassi8153]

It's not a good argument at all, Bruce Lee was a tiny man who never actually competed in a combat sport against another person.

[@conroyo]

Ali smokes Bruce Lee all day. Not close

[@judemiller]

Lol at them not liking the scene from Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. It was supposed to be irreverent.

[@oldcat7]

@@judemiller Yeah I get why people are upset but at the same time Pitt's character was fictional. We have no idea if that could've happened or not.

[@chrisboytano8883]

"I know you don't think it's a show. I don't doubt your emotions are real. But what's the point of all the sad faces and the gnashing of teeth? If you're not going to change your behavior, and you won't......why don't you skip the whole exercise? In the end, you're going to hurt everyone around you. You can't help it. So stop apologizing and accept it. Embrace it. Frankly, I'd have more respect for you if you did." -Chuck McGill That last scene is Jimmy taking some of Chuck's final words to heart.

[@josephincarnate]

Countdown to Lalo begins

[@mr.moviemafia]

I felt that the “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood” Bruce Lee scene with Brad Pitt was a daydream. Rig hit before the fight, we see Brad Pitt on the roof thinking about what would probably happen if he went to the studio, and it resulted in a Bruce Lee fight. I knew it probably wasn’t real the moment Pitt three Lee into the car door and dented it. The scene ends like 7 minutes later with him going “yeah I probably shouldn’t go”

[@VIGNESHWARRR]

Saul's last line to Howard is directly parallel to Chuck's last line to Jimmy, saying I never really cared about you. They both obviously didn't mean it, but it was a satisfying vent to their emotions. Shows how similar the brothers are to each other. Brilliant writing.

[@RynKen]

I noticed an interesting duality here. In season 1, Jimmy regresses from his attempts to be a good person because of chuck. In Season 3, Chuck regresses from his attempts to overcome his mental illness because of Jimmy. Clearly one is worse then the other, but the similarities are there.

[@Mads_Vel]

Great reaction. I also have incredible respect and empathy for Howard. Very badly done by Jimmy 👎

[@JustTechGuyThings]

@TheNormies, SSN used to be based on the age and location but was changed since it was easy to guess (since it was also sequential). New SSN are randomized "enough" so it's hard to guess them.

[@fuzzyDinos27]

Y’all really don’t see that people handle grief differently lol. Just because jimmy is deflecting doesn’t mean he’s heartless. He isn’t dealing with his grief well, he is choosing to act like it’s not happening to avoid any negative feeling or guilt. This is common actually. Also neither chuck or Howard did anything with bad intentions regarding chuck and the insurance. You can’t blame chucks mental illness and choices regarding it on either of them.

[@Col_Fragg]

Mike is making himself seen around the facility so that everyone will remember him. This will make his cover as a "security consultant" stand up to scrutiny if anyone like law enforcement checks to see if he's a real employee or just an employee on the books.

[@LukeIsyourfasha]

I’ve been predicting Kim is around during breaking bad timeline since season 1 of saul! Still with it.

[@cheebees]

It’s not like jimmy made up the disease, chuck was mentally ill. He shouldn’t have been practicing law. Even if it looked like he was getting better he obviously wasn’t because look how it ended. Jimmy shouldn’t feel guilty for letting the insurance company know.

[@livedieretreat7360]

He threw that pill bottle like bruce wayne throws the gun in batman begins.

[@elbruces]

If anybody closely audits whether Mike actually works for Madrigal, there are now people they can interview who have seen him on the job.

[@Emilis2023]

Yeah, I got nothing against Jimmy for what he did to Chuck. Chuck was a total asshole who brought it all on himself. But the way he treats Howard is completely inexcusable.

[@chunkyMunky329]

My opinion about Bruce Lee is that he was obviously good at martial arts, but I'm not aware of any evidence of him being the best in his field (during his lifetime). And so the real question is: can an above average martial artist professional defeat one of the best boxers of all time? Personally, I doubt it.

[@tenthtennant8935]

ali wins easy i dont even know why this is even a argument

[@LegendLeaguer]

He made kung fu/martial arts practical again. Before him, high level kung fu was people stopping their punches/kicks short, and then judges would determine how damaging the attack *would* have been. Lee publicly challenged masters and the fights were described as Lee chasing them for 30 seconds before needing to be torn off the guys

[@oggyreidmore]

29:07 - why would you type letters in a social security number? Because on a standard QWERTY keyboard, O and 0 are right next to each other. However, he says his social security number is 531-00-8714. The Social Security Administration does not issue numbers with all zeroes in any digit group, so the number is fake. The 531 means it was issued in Washington state.

[@alithegeek]

Finally, Mike Ehrmantraut: security consultant

[@tvftw1]

Dustin feels vindicated

[@Glass-Bowl]

Vince Gilligan: "3 seasons? ... Yeah, alright. It's time."

[@rafacezario13]

This is the beginning of the dawn of Jimmy Macgill and the born of Saul Goodman

[@marlonthemarvellous]

There is a hint in BB of Kim iys subtle. He mentions to Badger "make payable to ice station Zebra Island associates..." something on those lines. Its an old movie that Kim and him always watch...

[@benjaminroe311ify]

He's getting 10k net per 2 weeks Mike. That's pretty dang good.

[@RetroLiminal99444]

I was reacting to this and I was like “what is this set up” And I remembered, “oh right, covid”

[@chaost4544]

This episode was a turning point for me much like at one point Walt went from a sympathetic person to someone you still like but understand at his core he's not a good person and probably deserves the bad things that come to him.

[@mapolinski]

Jimmy blames Howard for Chuck's death. He said it. "Something made him relapse."

[@groovytony5568]

Holy hell ! I just figured out thanks to your reaction that Chuck's death was Jimmy's fault from the beginning. Because of the insurance. I completely forgot about that part. Daaaaamn !

[@rafacezario13]

Keep doing a great job, I discovered the channel by mistake, but I love you guys, I love anime, and a lot of series, directly São Paulo, Brazil, XD

[@macuna1995]

*Mike is, and forever will be, the man.*

[@dwnkaomwn3953]

Well, being on the run like Saul Goodman comes at a price and he's paying for it every day.

[@Xanivert]

Ali over Bruce Lee any day. Ali would have had 100 lbs on Lee

[@ElevenClaws]

Yea I don't understand why Mickey was so shocked at the thought lmao

[@twinny124]

@@ElevenClaws because he is a neck beard redditor who thinks he knows about fighting

[@brandyspain7125]

The Jimmy whisteling in the kitchen kind of calls back to Walt whisteling. It's kind of a calling card to the Narcissistic/psychopathic reality of their true character..

[@ElectricRonin]

Bruce Lee said himself that Ali would "kill" him in a crossover fight.

[@allbies]

I'm glad they finally see how bad of a person Jimmy is

[@abramsullivan7764]

Oh come on Chuck was a fucking asshole of a brother.

[@831Bars]

Stfu, Chuck was a piece of shit.

[@allbies]

@@831Bars Why are you mad? Yes Chuck is terrible also but Jimmy is an awful person nevertheless.

[@alekisighl7599]

@@abramsullivan7764 You probably hate Skylar as well don't you?

[@NO-em5si]

@@alekisighl7599 zzz

[@zdiegi5493]

Man I was really to young when I tried to watch this for the first time, I did not have the emotional maturity to understand how incredibly devastating and damaging Jimmy's words there at the end were!

[@fathergabrielstokes4706]

That's a good doggo

[@jennym2276]

Mike wanted to have a presence at the company as if he legit worked there. He's on camera, he spoke to people, etc. The worst part of what Jimmie did with the insurance was it was malicious. In the past he did what he did for self preservation. Leaking the info to the insurance company was going to do nothing for Jimmie. It wouldn't help him in any way. It was just to F over Chuck. Who he already beat in court.

[@dragerdet]

rewatching thse & I really wish Nahid would come back to the Normies!

[@noisemagician]

Bruce-Lee vs Ali. How is this even a discussion? Has anyone ever heard of weight-classes? Also Bruce -Lee didn't even have any experience in real fighting.

[@franciscocarter226]

Bruce Lee didn’t have any experience in real fighting?? His late teens and early twenties consisted entirely of street fights.

[@noisemagician]

@@franciscocarter226 Fighting against a professional fighter who know how to strike, dodge, bob and weave, is hardly same as going against some random goon.

[@enjoyitbro]

Jimmy's under no obligation to allieve any of Howard's guilt. Howard is not a good man

[@100nitrog2]

Also important to note that Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is a story with an unreliable narrator, so it's just as likely that Booth got stomped or never even actually fought Lee. And watching that scene, it's entirely reasonable that Booth could have tossed Lee around like that. Lee didn't know how experienced Booth was, and he was also just using the exact same kick Booth let him land seconds ago.

[@crymsonvega4854]

Am I the only one who noticed something the normies should have noticed? Yes the obituary was well done and kudos to Howard. But it says nothing but the achievements Chuck has made through out his life..... But who is Chuck as a person? I don't only mean as we the audience viewed him so far, but as an individual. Is this all Chuck was in his life? Just accomplishments? Chuck told Jimmy while he finally admitted he did not want Jimmy to be a lawyer that he "Committed His Life to This" as in being a lawyer.... Makes you wonder how committed was he? He felt he had nothing else in his life but the law when Howard wanted him to retire, maybe because he never tried to have a life or live in the moment. Yes he was married, but why did it end? A happily and secure married man would not be jealous just because his brother knows how to tell jokes.

[@JackMValentine]

I'm not sure if anyone will ever read this but VERY long post incoming: What we have to realize here in the terms of big picture for Jimmy and his family. His Father role was compromised. He looked up to his Dad in the beginning, a good man who was business owner and a pillar of the community. But he was soft, too soft. He let himself be stolen from by Conmen because he always wanted to see the good in people. Learning this lesson at a young age means he shifted his center of admiration from his Father to the Conman. His father taught him never to hurt people, but the Conman taught him that you don't have to hurt people to get what you want and if they're dumb enough to fall for it, it's their own fault. Granted not the best lesson to learn but he was a child and those things carry over into adulthood. As Jimmy got older that mentality kept working for him. Because let's face it, Game of Thrones showed us a somewhat more realistic view of the world. The strong will prey on the weak and they will often win. The Universe is indifferent to morality and the bad guys will usually come out on top because being underhanded, cheating and being terrible works. Jimmy's brother Chuck then becomes his polar opposite. Upstanding, lawful and a more typically favored by the world around them and at some point Chuck takes on that Father role that's been essentially vacant since the day Jimmy learned that being a Con pays off. Jimmy get's in serious trouble, Chuck bails him out and then what we see is that Jimmy really and honestly tries to turn himself around. Of course Jimmy is still Jimmy so his way of doing things isn't always the most proper but he plays the game and he does what he can to make his brother proud. But the interesting thing here is that over that time Chuck becomes jealous of Jimmy. Jimmy has a personality, Jimmy is good at making people feel for him even to the point of their parents sometimes taking on a more favorable attitude toward their less successful son. Which Chuck then resents Jimmy for and they just go on this way. When it came to Chuck, Jimmy was willing to do the work. Take care of him, give him every opportunity. He saw Chuck as his own Father. But Chuck always saw Jimmy as a screw up, someone he had to follow around and clean up their messes and never got any praise or acclaim for it not even from his own parents. It's possible his parents worried about and therefore seemed as though they favored Jimmy more because they knew he needed more attention to keep in line while Chuck was always the confident and level headed one that was already successful. When we start the series Jimmy is trying to do things right. But being underhanded just keeps working. He pushes it, straddling the line and they tell him this many times. You can't do this or that even though it's just barely legal and would work. And for a time Jimmy tones it down. But what ends up happening is that his situation with Chuck keeps getting pushed further and further along down this spiral. Eventually Chuck flat out starts to attack Jimmy and for good reason, not saying either of them is clearly in the right here. And Jimmy takes this more and more personally. In the end being underhanded and lying works out. It may not seem this way but Jimmy won. He's alive and his brother isn't. His brother and the world beat Jimmy into submission. Jimmy knows he can't do things “the right way”. He knows it doesn't pay to be the strait arrow. The world has proven that to him time and time again. I think what we see in this episode is that Jimmy has just snapped. If the Universe is telling him to be the bad guy then fine, he'll be the bad guy. He'll lie, he'll cheat and steal his way to success because it never worked out for him before. But I digress. It wasn't fair for Jimmy to make his brother his father and it wasn't fair for Chuck to have such a deep rooted disdain and jealous for his brother. Nobody actually won here. It's just like life. Sometimes your story doesn't get told and sometimes the story that doesn't isn't the one you planned on. Overall excellent writing, just wanted to point out why Jimmy is such an ass now. He's just done with it all. Yes he could have done things differently but I think we're shown enough throughout the series that we know his view of the world is slanted because everything that was “right” turned out to be either wrong or out to get him, so why not do what he knows? Well that answer to that is in the flash forwards. We don't fully know what's going on but all this bad has finally caught up with him. Thanks for reading if you did lol

[@ManOfCinema-]

whoa whoa whoa i don't have balls to read all of that

[@yakamen]

What did y'all think Jimmy McGill was going to exhibit spiritual growth sufficient to save him from the story arc of Breaking Bad? If you thought this had a happy ending...you weren't paying attention. Just enjoy it. Also...look into your own shadow - this is the human heart. And the show creator(s) are genius level.

[@Folkmoot]

People grieve in strange ways

[@marlonthemarvellous]

Jimmis hurting too. He is wearing a mask. He knows its his fault but Chucks last words to Jimmi were stop pretending to be bad so this is what Jimminis doing...

[@aworkinprogress4387]

First off, Chuck killed himself. He chose to die, no one killed him. Jimmy is just done with Chuck. He doesn't want to feel anything for him good or bad. Remember, the last time they talked Chuck told Jimmy to stop feeling remorseful. That's what Jimmy is doing in regards to Chuck. Even though he hates him Chuck still has influence over Jimmy.

[@pikachuichooseyou4273]

I wish that people would stop saying that Bruce Lee was not a real fighter because that is not at all the case he absolutely was a legit fighter.

[@bleepy013]

People who feel that Jimmy's an asshole for what he said to Howard here probably completely forgot about Jimmy and Chuck's last interaction. Chuck literally said that Jimmy didn't matter to him, and that he should stop feeling bad for everything he chooses to do. This is him doing that. Jimmy saw the first opportunity to let someone shoulder the blame and took it.

[@eliwrites1236]

do none of you see how that is exactly an asshole move. its not chuck he's punishing, he's dead; its howard who bears the guilt

[@bleepy013]

@@eliwrites1236 He's not doing it to be an asshole to Howard, though. He just came across an opportunity to offload his guilt to someone else.

[@qwerty77772]

22:05 'I feel vindicated' :D

[@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly]

Once upon a time in Hollywood felt like op fan fiction. "Then he beats up the manson family murderers while high as fuck"

[@DeltaEagle57]

Getting closer to my boy Lalo every week

[@papl20]

I'm am completely aware of who Jimmy is, but haven't you been around mourning people? Especially people with resentment issues? When my grandma died, my whole family got into this horrible fight that would make what Jimmy said mild. Y'all criticizing him as if he wasn't grieving and feeling guilty as FUCK. But yeah... what he said was pretty damn shocking but what was worse was how he acted afterward.

[@wtimmins]

Howard isn't perfect, but agreed; he's a genuine, good person.

[@SmokeRingHalo]

Jimmy's decline mirrors Walter Whites decline. We all know that Saul isn't a good guy in Breaking bad, it shouldn't be a shock to see Jimmy get continuously worse as the show goes on.

[@victorike3102]

Water didn’t destroy everything one thing lead to the other , they all destroyed it starting from Gus because they was peace until his men killed the kid then Walter killed the two guys hence preventing them from killing Jesse then Gus brought back gale to learn the formula and when gale did gus sent Mike to kill Walter then Walter sent Jesse to kill gale then Gus decided to turn Jesse in this corner so Jesse will be cool so he can kill Walter but Jesse said no to telling Walter then gus spared Walter but told him he will kill hank and if Walter warns hank he will kill skyler and the kids and in writing this the name that came up most was Gus lol Gus is the main factor in this matter then Walter mike and Jesse

[@juzujuzu4555]

"Howard is the kind of good man that is coming to say that I killed your brother during the day of the funeral". I wouldn't call that being good, I would call that being selfish and stupid. It's interesting though this show and Breaking Bad manages to manipulate us to think the situation is something completely different than it actually is. If your brother dies and someone comes and says I caused this, and there is evidence to support it, Chuck's relapse, it would phuck up anyone big time. Jimmy isn't psychopath, he was the most caring brother anyone could hope for. Sure he had his issues, but not towards his brother before it got revealed that Chuck torpedoed Jimmy from getting job at HHM and lied about it. And at the same time he revealed that he thinks Jimmy will always be just a con-artist phuck up, and thus he robbed Jimmy's Sandpiper case from him to HHM on purpose. Still Jimmy cared about him. He is probably the most caring adult in Breaking Bad universe.

[@hjackson1081]

Muhammad Ali/Bruce Lee: Ali would have to CATCH Lee FIRST, which, if you know ANYTHING about Lee, would NEVER happen…UNLESS Ali had a gun & shot Lee!

[@KbanjoK]

Wasn't that Once Upon a Time in Hollywood scene all an imagination/biased memory from Brad Pitt's point of view? He didn't actually fuck up Bruce Lee it was a gag. Maybe I'M misremembering lol