Better Call Saul: Ace Attorney (Spoilers)

[@thalamusDecimation]

To be fair, Chuck's disorder does seem like something straight out of Ace Attorney.

[@Half-V]

@Mr7Reality its his breakdown

[@Half-V]

@Mr7Reality yeah i know, i just added by saying its his character breakdown as he was cornered just like in the games

[@gamermasta525]

IDK why but 🤣🤣🤣

[@ScootrMan]

Similar to that one guy in Turnabout Goodbyes, the one who pretended to be mentally disabled or something so that von karma can win the case

[@OkiBonJovi]

@Mr7Reality your comment made me want to play the game now

[@manuelprivate3014]

If youre inocent, call phoenix wright, if youre guilty, better call saul

[@anewhero1216]

Very important to get that the right way 'round, cause trying to take advantage of Phoenix typically ends badly lol

[@kidwaryodproduction]

If you are lonely, Called Wendy Oldbag 😄

[@zxylo786]

​@@anewhero1216Yeah Pheonix is a shit lawyer lol. Literally anyone on the law world has to represent a guilty person. And he has to do it to the best of their ability.

[@emperormegaman3856]

@zxylo786 Remember that the problem here was that the defendent 1) Kidnapped his friend and threatened her of murder to force Phoenix to accept the case. 2) Lied to Phoenix about the case. The client isn't supposed to lie to his attorney. Phoenix never agreed to be the guy's lawyer, he was threatened into it. He had no moral or legal obligation to defend him to the best of his abilities. Matt had the right to a defense, he should have just contacted a lawyer and hired them to defend him.

[@ProfTricky3168]

@@kidwaryodproductionthen you’ll be grateful for the next time you’re lonely

[@imhungryletseat2303]

I just noticed that Chuck winced in pain when Jimmy put the empty cell phone on the table in front of him. Great subtle hint to Chuck's illness being psychological and not physiological

[@flouglemireindustries4335]

oh shit

[@tankerwife2001]

I mean if it was real he would still wince in anticipation of the pain

[@ScootrMan]

Yeah another rather subtle hint is probably how he didn't feel the fully charged battery in his pocket

[@imhungryletseat2303]

@@ScootrMan that isn't exactly subtle tho, more all-but-explained-outright. I was commenting on Michael McKean's subtle acting more than anything else haha

[@Samstar369]

@@imhungryletseat2303 Sarcasm, bro

[@gpmegaman]

This fits too fucking perfectly, the breakdown at the end is SO perfectly matched to Phoenix Wright games

[@TreadTalks]

That moment in the scene is what inspired the video! 😁

[@katlicks]

Now I want a Phoenix Wright game where during a meltdown the guilty party yells "HE DEFECATED THROUGH A SUNROOF"

[@LeagueofFoxYT]

“If you had lung cancer...” Hey I understood that reference

[@Tobyee]

*YOU'RE GOD DAMN RIGHT*

[@Keshaire]

@@Tobyee Wright?

[@dankboy6744]

@@Keshaire White

[@vistagreat9994]

@@dankboy6744 Walter

[@hypemugen]

Walty boi

[@Reach1335]

The four hit combo after Huell says, "Hour and forty-three minutes. -_-" had me dying.

[@yoyhue1678]

Reasonably

[@EPMTUNES]

8:35

[@maozedong7536]

/-_-\

[@TheGardiner]

You got one part of that wrong. /-_-\

[@sleepdeprivedsteve]

@@TheGardiner Lel

[@robertm5110]

I really like the part where the camera looks at each person in response to the breakdown

[@lewisdavidson571]

Chuck has gotta hate that Jimmy beat him when he had the advantage and all he had to do is stay quiet. Chuck destroyed himself, he was the only one who could and Jimmy exploited that.

[@combativeThinker]

"All according to plan," eh?

[@RenaldyCalixte]

Ironic that a KZbinr named Kira would scold Chuck for saying too much, when that's how Kira was outsmarted in Death Note.

[@MijinLaw]

What's great is Jimmy was only in trouble in the first place because Chuck knew Jimmy would overreact to the tape, and he got himself out of it by knowing Chuck would overreact to the implication he was crazy.

[@TomboTime]

Jimmy trapped Chuck in an unwinnable situation. He only had one of two options. he either had to 1. Admit that he's always had a vendetta against his younger brother and that recording him was always more about getting his licks in against Jimmy than actually protecting the law or 2. Admit that his illness to electricity is all in his head and that he's crazy. He tried to justify it all with his ramblings but in the end both truths were made evident. Chuck died a petty, jealous, delusional fraud and Slipping Jimmy won in the end.

[@jantayabas6647]

Godfather Part II reference

[@donaminta]

the music in the back of this really shows just how important audio mixing in a TV show is for setting the tone, particularly the music that plays when Jimmy makes Chuck pull the phone battery out of his pocket. In this video it feels triumphant because of the music, when in the show, with no music accompanying it, it just felt sad.

[@TreadTalks]

You’re totally right - completely changes the mood.

[@elgordobondiola]

I also noticed that there really isn't much background music in BB and BCD to set tone to a scene

[@jacksonl9472]

@@elgordobondiola I remember the writers mentioning that this was a deliberate choice as to not influence the audience on how to feel about a certain scene.

[@bigdrippy4104]

It was one of the smartest things they did in both shows - it lets so much hang in the air and gives the viewer a lot to chew on without overtly telling them how to feel. It directly plays into the sympathy they want the viewer to have for Saul and ultimately Walter later on

[@zbulimimusic6816]

Better Call Saul's sound design is FANTASTIC. The uses of silence are super important to the story telling. This video is fun but the real scene is way better

[@ZPM7]

I actually just realized how smart Jimmy is here. He set up two different red herrings for Chuck: his ex-wife being there, and the phone without the battery. And Chuck takes the bait on both of them. He's intentionally making himself look like a bad lawyer relying on simple gambits and it works. He knows that Chuck thinks that he'll go for plays like that because Chuck thinks Jimmy's a bad lawyer and he took advantage of that. Obviously the phone was a ploy, but the ex-wife was subtle enough to make it look like he was on his last legs. Very smart.

[@Ayoayoayoayoayoayoa]

Zetch_ by extension of jimmy being smart here the writers are geniuses

[@Geroaergaroe]

I never realized one detail about the scene, Jimmy refer to Chuck by his full name, at all time. Chuck never called Jimmy James in the series, ever.

[@zacharyclark4092]

I looked up red herring because im confused what the red herring was with the wife. Could you please explain it?

[@remirth_bergström]

@@zacharyclark4092 A red herring is a diversion or distraction that misleads from the relevant or important question. The phone and the ex-wife being distractions there to mislead Chuck into thinking those two were the important topics, when in actuality it was the battery in his pocket. In that sense they can be seen as red herrings.

[@zacharyclark4092]

@@remirth_bergström that clears it up perfectly. Thank you!

[@spyrofan9681]

I really want a defendant in the next Phoenix Wright game to be accused of defecating through a sun roof

[@lw1391]

Hey, the guy wanted soft serve, so he got soft serve. He didn't know that kids were in the car.

[@tDADDY09]

Slippin' Jimmy's at it again!

[@gjk2012]

Have to admit that's borderline insane for anyone to do. Insanity must run in the family.

[@noahmay7708]

@@gjk2012 He was drunk though, not that it excuses it.

[@Scrubworks]

Turnabout Turd

[@megasean3000]

This was the kind of stuff you missed out on in Breaking Bad: Saul in court, working magic like nobody’s business.

[@djsosonut]

Yeah. We never really saw Saul in any kind of court room situation. More often than not, he was either in some interrogation room or back in his office. I think the closest we saw to him being a pure lawyer was when he scammed Jesse's parents.

[@RenaldyCalixte]

@@djsosonut Actually he was a lawyer with um....wait you're right only the situation with Jesse. He did give Walt, Skyler and Jesse good legal advice tho.

[@sahilhossain4335]

@Mr7Reality hmm yes lore of breaking bad universe starting James Migill

[@kaori_kanzaki]

Trao :')

[@JPk5563]

8:59 is a pinnacle in greatness

[@JC21]

The Suspense theme kicking in at 5:37 as Jimmy says "Yeah, I do" was PERFECT.

[@lucaspallone9552]

My favorite thing that's really accentuated by this edit is that at 7:19 Chuck flinches even without the battery being in the phone, made super clear by the relevant effects. It's not until he realizes Jimmy's ploy that he relaxes

[@TreadTalks]

Yes!!

[@cambearie]

Hypothetically it could be explained by him anticipating pain from seeing an electrical device, but yes I like the detail as well

[@fresh_dood]

@@cambearie Yeah you would flinch if somebody faked a punch at you, doesn't necessarily mean you felt anything.

[@melliott333]

Michael McKean is brilliant in this role.

[@wenaldy]

Damn chuck's acting tho.

[@JoaoVictor-cf6kt]

I KNOW RIGHT

[@RacingVagabond]

I would expect nothing less from someone who was in Spinal Tap during a former life.

[@metalmugen]

@@RacingVagabond exactly, Spinal Tap is one of the most amazingly acted movies ever.

[@DropkickNation]

Michael McKean absolutely killed it in this role. He is usually such a cool comedian, but to see him act in such a serious role was just amazing.

[@RenaldyCalixte]

What? My long lost sister Wenaldy! 😮

[@bobhorton8662]

The flashback scene with the grayed out effects is INCREDIBLE dude.

[@TreadTalks]

Blargh Hurrdurr Thanks! All inspired by the Von Karma trial in the first game. :-)

[@matrixphijr]

It's so good it's even a little creepy, cause they kinda look like Van Gogh paintings or something, ready to jump out of the screen, lol.

[@nachum0041]

I burst out laughing when that happened

[@micaiah8097]

Tread Talks my favorite case!

[@MannFace51]

Nachum00 Same dude holy shit that had me rolling. Made me imagine this show as an anime, which I’ve never done before

[@Barrobroadcastmaster]

"There's a lantern on top of newspapers." Major foreshadowing.

[@cottonballs185]

And, y'know, the literal sign looming above his head that reads _exit_ at 11:00

[@EmpEcropEco]

I don't get it

[@Eruerucamicaminono]

It's a FIRE exit

[@PARTYARTIE92]

It's crazy how easy things like that are to overlook. Vince Gilligan is a past master at these kinds of little tidbits.

[@joko49perez]

Yes, Vince has to be a genius to do things in a show that he's not working on (iirc he left at season 2)

[@gmh93]

This is amazing and there's little I'd add to it. One small detail that I think would have been funny: when one of the judges said "We did promise the defence some leeway. You may proceed... But watch yourself.", I would have put the five "health points" on the upper right, with one of them blinking. Totally felt like one of those AA moments where the judge warns you that any pointless pressing will result in a penalty.

[@TreadTalks]

Gonzalo Méndez Hermida You are completely right haha! I wish I could go back in and insert it!! :-)

[@skullhawqsyz8432]

@@TreadTalks and also title cards when he changes his alibi!

[@carlosfranciscocardoso]

@@TreadTalks It's funny how the two shows are even more similar than our perception lets us know, I don't blame you haha great work, absolutely precious if you know both franchises

[@sahilhossain4335]

@@carlosfranciscocardoso hmm yes when ace attorney x better call Saul crossover

[@procyon6370]

"What would you do if you had a time machine..."

[@achillesnakis9043]

It's amazing how this series even makes the viewer feel like Jimmy is innocent even though you obviously know hes not

[@mezmezzy1870]

He may not be innocent, but he did nothing wrong

[@ClintonKE]

@@mezmezzy1870 You really still think this even after all of it and all of his playing has lead up to a man being shot in his home now?

[@mezmezzy1870]

@@ClintonKE Lalo's actions were out of Jimmy's control, so yes, I do. You really gonna blame him for what was effectively self-preservation?

[@ClintonKE]

@@mezmezzy1870 Jimmy's actions got Lalo in his life in the 1st place. Starting with season 1 where he tries to scam the Kettlemans and it lead to this.

[@mezmezzy1870]

@@ClintonKE Yeah, he was down on his luck and needed money. The down on his luck being caused by Chuck and Howard btw, so anyone could argue that Howard did this to himself... which I guess is probably the best way to do go about this, if Howard was the protagonist of the show, that moment would be a lead up caused by all his past actions/in-actions.

[@bloodyperiodinhistory4698]

I like how Saul Goodman, who would one day be some 2 bti ambulance chaser, was good enough to defeat the greatest attorney in the New Mexico area.

[@12171010011010]

He proved several times that he was just as talented as his brother, just with less experience. And to be fair the way he played on Chuck's mental illness was dirty mainly because he invited Rebecca.

[@shanez1215]

Saul wasn't quite as talented in traditional ways, legal knowledge and terminology as traditional lawyers like Chuck, and Chuck was in a league of his own in case knowledge and intelligence. Odenkirk's acting in this scene showed that. However, he was very skilled at manipulating and persuading people and was quite crafty in his techniques. Whenever a traditional lawyer goes against him, they can't really combat him as effectively because they're playing the wrong game and arguing like they would to a traditional lawyer. It's like when a highly skilled player of a video game that understands the metagame goes against a less skilled one. They may have a tougher time since they are used to playing against someone else who understands the meta, so the newcomer is a wildcard of sorts. Not to mention Chuck's extreme arrogance and feeling of superiority, which was ultimately his downfall, just like Walt.

[@setbyyah5637]

@@shanez1215 I get what you are saying with Chuck and Walt having similarities. But, I'm sick of people acting like what Walt turned into with Heisenberg was who he was. Walt turned into Heisenberg in a two year period upon a Cancer diagnosis in order to take revenge on the world because he did not come close to his potential in his life. On the other hand, Chuck fulfilled his potential to the highest degree and he STILL acted this way. This is who Chuck was, a Narcissist. Walt, however became addicted to the power of Heisenberg and took it way too far. Walt's behavior was more acute and Chuck's behavior was chronic. That's why it was called "Breaking" Bad. Walt was a person who was taken advantage of or let himself get taken advantage of. Then he reached his breaking point, lashed out, and took it too far. Chuck was always resentful of Jimmy and did the right things for the wrong reasons, and then he was exposed by the end of his life for what he was. So, yes, they both displayed inflated self-interest and self-importance, but they had completely different paths and were completely different people.

[@yoovie1]

Why do you say New Mexico Area like it’s alien, like saying the Virginia Area, it sounds weird

[@setbyyah5637]

Crazed Joe, I see your point about the six months on the run. But I believe there is more there than meets the eye. When he came back to town to kill Jack’s crew he told Skyler he did it all for himself, not the family. He didn’t tell Skyler that he left his money to Gretchen and Elliot to give to Walter Jr. on his 18th birthday. He didn’t care about getting the credit anymore, as long as what he did wasn’t for nothing. He also didn’t hesitate to kill Jack when he offered to tell him where his money was after the machine gun had stopped running and Jack was negotiating for his life. To me, there was more character growth there and his journey was fully completed once he died in the Finale. If you remember he was still full of desperate bravado in Granite State, and six months later he was resigned to turning himself in initially. Then he decided to make a last stand in the Finale. So, I still believe that his Heisenberg transformation was over a two year period.

[@jordanmm325]

Chuck Von Karma

[@diogenes26]

But in this case, he was the one who was SHOCKED

[@KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin]

Chuck ain't no von Karma

[@marvelousmoostacheman5560]

@Sonim Bopish Kristoph McGill

[@juicynugget]

Demonic *OBJECTION*

[@ekathe85]

Klavier Hamlin

[@juancamera5440]

Chuck's lawyer made a judgement error by saying "if he was schizophrenic". Could have phrased that any other way,but the wording upset chuck the most.

[@barto22]

Yeah, i like it when side characters are actually pretty competent. Chuck would've lost a lot less face if he just let his lawyer do the thing

[@EndOfSmallSanctuary97]

He was trying to save Chuck by making the point that someone's mental illness doesn't mean they're wrong.

[@juancamera5440]

@@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 If he knew Chuck more intimately, he would've made the same point with a less problematic wording for his client gigantic, ridiculous fuckin ego. The point, argumentative and legally is flawless. Buuuuut: law is rarely an objective sterile field. Emotion and bias are always part of the deal.

[@sahilhossain4335]

Hmm yes lore of better call Saul

[@solidzack]

If Chuck managed to resist in that moment he would've been golden. Jimmy just committed a crime here: incitement to battery (clever wordplay). He proved that he's indeed a crooked lawyer who's not above using dirty tactics. Even if he successfully proved Chuck's illness being psychological, he had to take responsibility for all the damage Chuck might've suffered from it (you can't just put a fake spider on the back of an arachnophobic person either). That in combination with his other tactics used here (inviting Chuck's wife and talking about their relation to put pressure on him for instance) would've guaranteed his downfall. And Chuck's lawyer wad about to put the nail on his coffin by clarifying that Chuck's illness was not at issue here. Jimmy's point is that he destroyed the tape because he was mad at his brother who hates him, not because it was incriminating for him. And to prove it he had to expose Chuck's feelings for him in front of everyone. A foolproof plan that only Chuck himself could've possibly foiled, but alas his giant ego and hatred towards Jimmy was his downfall.

[@mesolithicman164]

In many ways Chuck is correct in his observations of Jimmy, but for all Jimmy's faults he likes people and his clever mind, unlike Chuck's, doesn't move in straight lines. His 'deviousness' is the ability to problem solve creatively. He's also much more grounded than Chuck with a great sense of humour. Chuck is visibly uncomfortable in the dinner party scene when Jimmy charms Chuck's wife with all his lawyer gags. Another deep wound for Chuck. First, their parents, then his wife.

[@noahmay7708]

Chuck was better than him at anything intellectual. He had to find something he was good at. It's actually a very common thing for siblings.

[@yisussb]

I feel like if chuck had actually supported jimmy in his decision if being a lawyer and had accepted him in his firm he would have changed

[@chico9805]

@@yisussb He definitely would've. All Jimmy wanted was to make Chuck proud of him. I think he would've played it straight, even if he didn't like it, just to please his brother, but Chuck never supported him

[@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου]

@@yisussb only a matter of time until slipping jimmy resurfaced.

[@Aquatarkus96]

@@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου honestly, you can't say that with any certainty. People *can* permanently change for the better, and it's important to remember that.

[@tsarfox3462]

This is pure gold. These outlandish circumstances would fit right in a Phoenix Wright game. I love that one of the most heartbreaking, bittersweet scenes is just followed by confetti and cheers. Like It's now on the record that Chuck is both mentally unstable and hates his brother, everyone is just floored, then it just turns into a party.

[@Yee-Haw_Bird]

Kim is about to throw confetti get hype.

[@wonderguardstalker]

Glad someone made this because the episode really did give me the AA rush when Chuck explodes.

[@leopoldvermilion1456]

wonderguardstalker what does AA mean?

[@mickwiatrek4865]

i like the described term as AA rush cause thats exavtly how it be 😂😂

[@BenjaminOommen]

'when Chuck explodes? ' please tell me it was a pun

[@ShadowEl]

The Ace Attorney breakdowns are built on the bombastic confessions of Perry Mason (which Chuck references) and Columbo. Ace Attorney was inspired by American detective shows - its storytelling structure of showing the crime first is also taken directly from Columbo.

[@leaffinite2001]

​@@leopoldvermilion1456 ace attorney

[@bluekewne]

9:05 you know how every Ace Attorney has the bad guy freak out in some weird over the top fashion? This is Chuck's freak out.

[@TreadTalks]

It really does fit perfectly!

[@sahilhossain4335]

@@TreadTalks hmm yes lore of better call Saul: ace attorney

[@vaccuumhelmet521]

Their breakdown you mean?

[@sahilhossain4335]

@@vaccuumhelmet521 yes

[@Wepawnet]

witness breakdown

[@itwasidio1736]

Ace Attorney: Saul Goodman sounds like a great game.

[@dnmstarsi]

In Japan, it's called Gyakuten Saulban.

[@surreal6055]

saul goodman vs manfred von karma

[@fpszombie1]

@@surreal6055 Who do you think would win?

[@KC_Garcia]

@@surreal6055 "Yes, for you see, it was I who sent Grossberg to the boathouse, Saul Goodman!" "Von Karma, no!"

[@itwasidio1736]

@@KC_Garcia Saul then proceeds to reveal the defendant was in the back of the courtroom the whole time, bamboozling Von Karma and leading to his wall headbang breakdown.

[@whytfdoesYTneedhandlesfor]

Unrelated but they did a great job casting chuck. He really looks like he could be bob odenkirks older brother. Same face same ears same nose

[@TheBanMan]

And a fellow comedian like Bob Odenkirk

[@Retr0ver4]

The "TAKE THAT!" made me chuckle so hard when he pointed to exhibit 9 so confidently. His methods are unorthodox to say the least.

[@KyleAnimates]

The timing of the dialogue when Jimmy reveals the battery in Chuck's pocket is perfect with the music. It's like Vince played Ace Attorney as inspiration for BCS.

[@Ratchet2431]

And Peter Gould.

[@ricardonapper1793]

5:37 my god - jimmy knew what he was going to do next and you could see that small moment of hesitation on his face for the potential consequences it would have on his brother - even at the height of their conflict

[@JoshSweetvale]

Well, he _was_ going to intentionally give his brother a panic attack for... something between justice and revenge.

[@krzaminecraft]

@@JoshSweetvale he had to, else he would never practice law ever again

[@arkham_miami]

@@krzaminecraft which would’ve been a good ending actually

[@sahilhossain4335]

@@arkham_miami nice 👍

[@solidzack]

This moment, but also when he asked how did Chuck know it would work and when he asked Chuck to check his breast pocket. There's hesitation, almost shame in his voice. He knows what he's doing and what'll happen next. Things are following according to plan, Chuck's falling for the trap. Yet Jimmy knows that what's about to happen and that's going to destroy Chuck. Which is not something Jimmy inherently wants to. But it has to be done

[@wizardvozk5874]

This is made better by the fact that it’s very common for characters to have pun names in Ace Attorney and Jimmy’s alias “Saul Goodman” is a pun of the phrase “(It)’s all good man.”

[@JoeyTheKid101]

…Oh my god you’re totally right lol

[@benl.4577]

That's brilliant

[@sahilhossain4335]

Bravo Vince and Peter

[@RampantFury925]

Im surprised Ace Attorney didn't come up with that name first and beat them to it.

[@deadpan904]

@@RampantFury925 closest thing we have to that is Bruce Goodman, the victim in Rise from the Ashes

[@rampantmutt9119]

The confetti coming down as Chuck stares at the exit sign is the funniest thing.

[@casacara]

"he thinks this will break me down, like a murderer on perry mason" proceeds to confess loudly and dramatically

[@toadboy7493]

CabanaCaseda “he thinks this will break me down, like a murderer confessing in an ace attorney game”

[@brozu81]

@@toadboy7493 lmaooo this made me burst out laughing

[@applenewmoon4402]

That’s Chucks weakness tbh. Over confident and knows what’s best for everyone and thinks he knows what’s right

[@joshshrum2764]

That’s what makes this so similar to ace attorney.

[@gamermasta525]

What I wanna know is what the hell is Perry Mason?

[@marinamaged962]

that breakdown is literally straight out of phoenix wright lol this is art

[@cambearie]

Yesss the part where it looks like he’s being slapped repeatedly before he shouts is pure Ace Attorney

[@Kirbopher15]

Whenever I wanna re-watch this scene, I'll be watching this version. ;]

[@TheShockVox]

Christopher Niosi I thoroughly feel like there's no better way at this time.

[@tai-imyr849]

Didn’t expect to see you here, Kirb!

[@Crow-qm7zw]

Pouf watching Better Call Saul is now an image stuck in my head. He'd probably root for Chuck too.

[@beatlejuice1165]

I appreciate your voice acting work, and I appreciate the thorough apology you provided for what you’ve done. Of course it would’ve been better had those things never occurred, but I hope you find better days and change your ways, man.

[@RottenPizza801]

Well this aged poorly

[@masterzombie161]

Chuck: he hoping this will break me down, split me at the seems like a murderer confessing on Perry Mason. (A few mins later after being Proved wrong on something starts confessing like a murderer on Perry Mason)

[@egosumv3112]

8:24 I was really hoping that the Cornered variation would play when the battery was revealed. So glad you delivered.

[@benjamind.4790]

I like the part at 10:20 where the music changes after he exposes himself and the camera pans backward while he's coming to the realization that he's screwed up. Really good stuff.

[@yowo123]

I've been rewatching Better Call Saul and it blows me away how intricate the plot is. Chuck sees right through Jimmy. To an outsider it would sound like he's become a paranoid recluse and has lost touch with reality, but he's right about everything.

[@Momon143]

He's right, and also a massive asshole.

[@Magus12000BC]

Chuck was only right about Jimmy because he would never give him a chance to redeem himself. It was a self fulfilling prophecy. It was Chuck that ultimately put Jimmy back on the path of being a conman because he afforded no faith in him whatsoever. And if his only family hated him, what was the point? He just decided to do what he was good at and the world be damned.

[@DraculaCronqvist]

Except that he's wrong about everything. It was only through Chuck constantly sabotaging Jimmy and never giving him a chance that Jimmy became Saul Goodman. Jimmy was trying to turn his life around, and would have, if not for Chuck's hatred for his little brother.

[@mesolithicman164]

But look how Jimmy has cared for his brother during his illness. Jimmy may have his faults but he looked after Chuck and helped him back. What did Chuck do for Jimmy? Got him a job in the mail room. Period. He laughed at Jimmy's law degree and would never let him rise to a level commensurate with his talents. Forget any idea of partnership.

[@Ratchet2431]

Obviously he was going to know that because he led him down that path with his hatred and lack of faith towards his brother.

[@Boney9551]

The black and white part with chuck explaining him hiding his illness is actually golden, amazing job man wish i had seen this sooner

[@MattiaEsposito92]

5:48 "If you had, I don't know, LUNG CANCER..." Nice bit of foreshadowing, even if not about Chuck himself.

[@TreadTalks]

Nice catch.

[@soulreaverable]

Backwards foreshadowing. B R A V O G I L L I G A N

[@VanceChariot]

That would be more like a reference instead of foreshadowing. BCS was written after Breaking Bad ended.

[@Nexusthorn]

@@VanceChariot It's a reference but also symbolism, since ironically it took Walt forever to tell Skyler or anyone about his lung cancer, similar to how Chuck couldn't tell Rebecca about EHS.

[@mrfivegold]

Tuscan417 there has been no correlation between cancer and smoking sweet, smooth tasting cigarettes.

[@MTown587]

This video convinced me to get the Phoenix Wright trilogy

[@greatspaceadventure]

Worth!!!! Enjoy it!

[@MTown587]

@@greatspaceadventure I’ve played through the trilogy and the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles since I made this comment. I’m playing through Apollo Justice now, love this series so far!

[@justscrollinginthecomments7930]

@@MTown587 Best decision you could've made. It's my all time favorite series. After AJ you should play the Investigations duology with Edgeworth. If you get a DS emulator, you can play both, but the 2nd game is exclusive to an emulator and fan patch. Still, its a very good fan patch and the overall slowness of Investigations I is paid in full with Investigations II. Look up a YT download for it.

[@MTown587]

@@justscrollinginthecomments7930 I’ve actually played every game in the series except Professor Layton by now. Didn’t care for Investigations 1 that much, but Investigations 2 was amazing!

[@justscrollinginthecomments7930]

@@MTown587 Investigations I is the build for Investigations II, which is beyond incredible. It puts to shame most Anime games out there, with very few exceptions. It's an absolute shame we never got it officially here, but you got give props to the community translation.

[@Toybinger]

For the life of me I don’t understand why Michael McKean was not nominated for an Emmy for his role as Chuck

[@TheGardiner]

Technically, he was, but for the season 4 finale (his flashback appearance)

[@esotericVideos]

WHAT A SICK JOKE!

[@KarateChopsticks]

Everything is better with AA music

[@JohnDoe-rw4hl]

+KarateChopsticks Forgive me; what is AA music exactly?

[@cactavious]

Ace Attorney

[@slug3856]

Alcoholics Anonymous music

[@lakonikos8791]

And the sfx. The stabbing after a crucial sentence sets the relevance for anyone feeling lost.

[@bryantcurtis2665]

KarateChopsticks AA...Alcoholics Anonymous or American Airlines?

[@curlyfm]

The funny thing is chuck was telling the truth about everything expect for the electrical problems.

[@sofiacarvajal8545]

Vince Gilligan: This scene could not get any better. Ace Attorney: Hold my soundtrack

[@sunsetman22]

*Peter Gould

[@DelusionalDunmer]

1:23 I swear the sound effect when he turns his head is so perfectly timed it gets me every time.

[@jacksbob8746]

“I am not crazy!” -crazy person

[@mnoypoiuyt65r4w8]

My boi chuck aint crazy tho :(

[@josealmeida5768]

So, if you are not crazy how do you say it ?

[@mnoypoiuyt65r4w8]

@Mike Hawk Mental illness doesn't mean that hes automatically crazy. His illness was enabled by jimmy. He didt get any help

[@swans184]

lol yeah that’s the first way to get people thinking you’re crazy

[@noahmay7708]

@@mnoypoiuyt65r4w8 He's not crazy, but anyone who says that automatically sounds crazy to everyone in the room.

[@fandbzgt100]

Chuck foreseeing his death with cheers in the background is kinda creepy.

[@sahilhossain4335]

@Eeep Rom hmm has chuck truly deserved this

[@musicaleuphoria8699]

Plus sound of the exit sign seemingly sizzlying Chuck now at that distance.

[@flightdub6056]

Lmfao the black and white flashback to Chuck and Rebecca with the DL-6 music playing in the background is god tier

[@primetimemonkyhours743]

Saul Wright vs Chuck Edgeworth

[@diogenes26]

Chuck Von Karma would've sound better

[@yourcollegedebt8384]

Saul Wright actually sounds like a good alternative to Saul Goodman, considering how both are puns. It's all good, man - Saul Goodman It's all right - Saul Wright

[@subscribeofficial7134]

@@yourcollegedebt8384 that will make whole differenç

[@pankek5431]

@@diogenes26 Christopher McKarma

[@Scout-164]

How were you not hired on as a writer for BCS?

[@Haedox]

I LOVE THIS.

[@TreadTalks]

Haedox Thank you!

[@mytho_actual]

*Saul Goodman: Ace Attorney*

[@setbyyah5637]

9:53, wow you can hear the octave in his voice shift back to that of a traumatized child. You can see the right side of his face in light, the facade worthy of grandiose admiration. The left side of his face in darkness, the narcissistic demon that until now, has only been seen by Jimmy and perhaps their parents. Chuck left Jimmy no choice, he had to expose him, every narcissists worst nightmare.

[@JoshSweetvale]

Chuck is fucking *terrified* of Jimmy's seeming ability to hypnotize people and, if not turn them *against* Chuck, certainly make them abandon him and destroy themselves. Chuck had to square the circle of not hating his svengali brother but not trusting him either. *And the hate seeped out anyway.*

[@sahilhossain4335]

@@JoshSweetvale damn that's tragic

[@cutcc]

This is exactly what was going through my head when I was watching this scene for the first time haha.

[@DropkickNation]

OBJECTION!

[@shadowmsc7278]

Overruled.

[@reddeath707]

Howard's look of complete shock at 8:49 has always been my favorite part of this episode. He sees someone he had complete admiration for be exposed, you can tell it shakes him bad.

[@strider117aldo9]

Didn't notice a big change tho Eyes were stony as usual?

[@chipstick3856]

@@strider117aldo9 three months late but Look at his mouth.

[@reddeath707]

​@chipstick3856 No such thing as late, far as a comment section is concerned.

[@victorc8553]

Ace Attorney references makes any lawyer show better

[@10INTM]

As much as you root for Jimmy, Chuck IS right about him on everything. Chuck's flaw is that it's not simply principle motivating his crusade against Jimmy, but also jealous resentment: being brilliant in the law was the one thing he had over Jimmy, something he'd earned through all the proper channels, then Jimmy comes along online course and all and he's undeniably brilliant at it. Better even. Even if it is the more "cheating" way of doing it. Both their approaches are technically legal, but opposite in principle. While Chuck must stick to the moral way of doing law, Jimmy on principle refuses to abide by the system seeing it as something you're either played by or something you game. His dad played fair and got taken advantage of all the time.

[@dubioustheatreyt8096]

"His dad played fair and got taken advantage of all the time." I never realized just how much of Saul's morals is based upon that one thing.

[@Spark-bw3ph]

@@dubioustheatreyt8096 Wolves and Sheep, Carrot and Stick.

[@notjeff7833]

He wasn't right about the billboard one

[@10INTM]

@@notjeff7833 Yeah, he was. It was a scheme. Rewatch if you don't remember.

[@notjeff7833]

@@10INTM bruh the construction worker was paid by hhm to remove Jimmy's billboard. Jimmy was making an ad on such injustice. It wasn't a scheme like tf!? I finished season 3 and it wasn't mentioned again

[@owengrady]

i like that in this scene, at 7:22 you can see chuck tricking himself. when jimmy first pulls out his cellphone you can see chuck’s discomfort, but that quickly disappears when chuck realizes jimmy must be tricking him

[@tysonasaurus6392]

I laugh every time he pulls out the battery and drops it 😂

[@parknplay8328]

It's kind of amazing that the Ace Attorney games have such a versatile visual and auditory language that you can apply it to entirely different stories and it still works perfectly

[@X-SPONGED]

Better Call Saul S3 - Dual Destinies Case 05 - "Turnabout Chicanery"

[@DD-rn4gi]

Huell Destinies*

[@slick6227]

And that was the moment huel become heinsenberg

[@oogs9114]

Huh?

[@kazukimoto12]

One of the first things i thought when i saw the scene was that this is some phoenix wright shit! Glad someone thought the same and edited this together.

[@TreadTalks]

Tarya Honestly the more I watched the scene, the more the little bits and pieces from AA fit together for it.

[@ShadowGeo117]

Had me in tears. Brilliant work. Gotta wonder if this scene was practically made for Ace Attorney. Wished I heard Phoenix's objection though, and that no music played during Chuck's lines after his rant.

[@TreadTalks]

+ShadowGeo117 Thanks! I was looking for a chance to use Phoenix's but it never really fit. Re: chuck's lines after his rant, I was conflicted about it too (whether to use the DL6 incident music or no music). I can definitely see how some folks would prefer the no-music approach. :-)

[@flyforce16]

This was absolutely hilarious, great job

[@Clel]

really good job, though I would've atleast tried "Light and Shadow At The Film Studio" for the after rant

[@TreadTalks]

You know what, I think that might have worked better - I didn't think of it! Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@randomperson10082]

Does a more niche crossover video exist on the internet? How many people on earth are both AA and BCS fans? Fucking brilliant video.

[@bluevioletandlilac]

I am, but I guess I'm in the minority. :)

[@jordanmm325]

I am hugely into both fandoms!

[@goldenstate5]

I was like, "fuck who can I even send this to it's just so perfect"

[@Defiring]

+goldenstate5 lol, that's exactly my sentiment, I have no one to share this with

[@fandbzgt100]

Yeah I don't know anyone who watches BCS and played AA. I know one of each tho.

[@CVerse]

I can’t believe an Ace Attorney edit is what’s gonna get me hooked on this show

[@neslydonuts]

I wish I could blame my anxiety on electromagnetism

[@Kyotosomo]

I actually prefer this version; it made the scene even better!

[@Kevin-hd3jg]

Kyotosomo I only JUST got the lung cancer reference ◉_◉

[@slyceth]

You need to fuck off ashtray

[@diogenes26]

@@Kevin-hd3jg I had to read your comment to get it

[@drguy12345678]

Kevin “would you tell your wife?” like fucking hell they went all the way 😍

[@Bahzhsjenbs]

No.

[@X-SPONGED]

3:48 *_>Gavel is Struck_* Judge: "Well, we did promise the defense some lee way. You may proceed..." Phoenix: "Thank you, Mr. Chairma-" Judge: "But watch yourself!" *_>Flashing red penalty bar gets introduced on the upper right side of the screen_*

[@TreadTalks]

Oooh that would have been nice!

[@Foodnt]

@@TreadTalks man's out here replying after 5 years o7

[@realybm]

Holy shit. It's a shame not many people will be able to fully appreciate this, but this was masterfully crafted. Well done.

[@Archontasil]

god i wish that more of the episodes are court dramas like this. this scene is definitely peak BCS, and the AA editing makes it perfect

[@EndOfSmallSanctuary97]

Agreed. As a law student this is easily my favourite scene in the whole series, and one reason why I prefer the earlier seasons is because they focus more on lawyer stories rather than crime ones.

[@shlokwaghela9560]

Suprisingly, this had everything a normal ace attorney case does, even down to a breakdown (even though this is definitely a LOT morally grey)

[@stevenwatchorn9816]

10:19 Somehow, that 8-bit-style music makes this part even sadder. :)

[@michiganjack1337]

The craziest part is that it’s been 5 years since this episode aired. Where has the time gone? OBJECTION!

[@FMOLETTE]

Jesus 2017 was half a decade ago? Man.

[@thejew1789]

This is when we realized Chuck hates Jimmy because Jimmy was the parents' favorite.

[@TreadTalks]

It really is a well-done sibling dynamic!

[@ahoy_11]

Oy vey

[@stefthorman8548]

@@Happy-cw6jx fuck off Hitler

[@Johnny69xxx]

@@Happy-cw6jx wow you are edgy internet warrior

[@robint9803]

@@Johnny69xxx more like edgy stupid idiot

[@killqueen6658]

The perfect blend of law, video game, and show.

[@TsuyoiTCG]

11:01 Kim: After that long session, the trial ended in an Not Guilty verdict, but it felt so sad and wrong, because we knew the reality that Chuck has always hated his brother, a brother that took care of him in his supposed disease.

[@Djaceuk2000]

1:29 Jimmy: I am impressed, how much work went into entrapping me. Charles: I didn't entrap you, I provoked an admission. Look at Jimmy's face at this point because Jimmy entrapped Charles in this scene.

[@RenaldyCalixte]

Jimmy like I got you sucka

[@swans184]

What the hell’s the difference? Also, why isn’t the case thrown out? What Jimmy did seemed to be entrapment to me

[@oogs9114]

@@swans184 i dont know much about it but I’m assuming its because the panel are more lenient than a normal court

[@KhrisNZ]

@@swans184 The difference is that entrapment means you manipulate someone into committing a felony, not admitting that you committed a felony.

[@lorenz0c0rdova65]

@@swans184 Because he destroyed the tape that he wasn't supposed to know about and thought it would be evidence and it was mostly breaking and entering, and destruction of evidence.

[@Svoorhout85]

Wouldnt it be cool if Saul Goodman made a guest appearance in the AA franchise? Just imagine an anime version of Saul with his tacky suits and all. He could be a great opponent!

[@TreadTalks]

Stefan Voorhout Hehe that’d be awesome!!

[@sahilhossain4335]

Hmm yes where's the mod for it

[@intraum]

the flashback scene was the icing on the cake lmao. quality video mate

[@aceharris1463]

Knowledge of case law and precedent- Chuck. Rhetoric, charisma, and playing to the room- Jimmy.

[@vexations840]

6:25 jimmy signals francesca to get huell. i just noticed that

[@JeroenZM]

They fit so well together.

[@jerri1918]

"he's hoping this will break me down! Split me apart at the seams like a murderer confessing..." "on an episode of perry mason" ok i love me some perry mason but i honestly thought he was going to finish that sentence with ace attorney

[@MarioSMG64]

Did those games exist when this scene takes place?

[@Nightdreamr]

@@MarioSMG64 Yeah, the first one came out in 2001, this trial takes place in 2003 i think.

[@JoeyJ0J0]

@@Nightdreamr the first game was released in America in 2005 and I doubt Chuck would not know about text adventure law sims on gba

[@akemartinezjoseismael1861]

8:33 The exactly moment that jimmy turned in Saul against his brother

[@mariano1196]

Actually had the temptation of watching this video before catching up with the show Glad I didn't, it wouldn't had the same impact after watching this masterpiece of editing

[@urbainleverrier1]

Dude, this is so well edited! The music, the little audio cues, the sprites - They're all just perfect man. Good job on this!

[@eddierojas3871]

This is very well done! The new season of Better Call Saul is getting very interesting

[@Th3Sh1n1gam1]

This is the most beautiful thing i've seen on the internet in a while.

Amazing work! Love the attention to detail. Thank you for putting this together :)

[@TreadTalks]

+Peter Sjöstrand thanks! I love both series and wanted to do them both justice. :-)

[@teslashark]

Mind doing the first season head case?

[@TreadTalks]

teslashark Thanks! I'll take a look and see if it fits (my memory of the flow of the scene is a bit fuzzy :-))

[@flyforce16]

You wanted to do them both Apollo Justice*

[@kevenluna8697]

As a fan of Ace Attorney and Better Call Saul, I can honestly tell you that this video is perfect.

[@gasjebasje99]

5:16 "He's hoping this will break me down, split me apart at the seams like a murderer on an episode of perry mason! Well I'm sorry to dissapoint you Jimmy." >:3 9:58 "BUT NOT OUR JIMMY!! COULDN'T BE PRECIOUS JIMMY!!"

[@vaicupcakes]

Thats sooo Ace Attorney xDD

[@Rufus2k2]

Masterfully done.

[@Talentlesssss]

I'll never understand why Vince Gilligan didn't take this directorial approach.

[@TreadTalks]

😄😄

[@jellywillreturn]

Didn’t want to show he was plagiarizing Metástasis too obviously.

[@projekt2745]

@@jellywillreturn Lol

[@Eugene_Black]

​@@jellywillreturn too bad breaking bad ripped it off 😠😠

[@austinkonkol2472]

The moment I finished this episode I google searched for this. It exists, and it is way better than I ever could have dreamed. Thank you. Those last 3 minutes hit me hard.

[@misterdaleboomshears8619]

This is so fantastically edited. All the right music and effects in all the right spots.

[@D3monL3A1]

8:24 NOOOOOOOOOOO THATS IMPOSIBRUUUUUUU NAAAAANIIII