"BETTER CALL SAUL" KAREN IS BAAAACK...THIS TIME IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!

Tenant argues the civil case following her eviction before judge Simpson…it does NOT go well !!....Yet another example of what our courts deal with every day…
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[@msmolly3082]

She doesn't intend to pay a dime and never intended to pay!

[@danij5055]

Which is why she was fine with a $9k+ amount. 🤦

[@slapeters2004]

Exactly. And I hate this witch. I hope the plaintiff files the necessary lien paperwork to ruin her credit. What an absolute disgrace this loser is. And she’s not even embarrassed about this! She scammed the property owners by not paying her rent x12 months. Not even an attempt to pay. It sure sounds like she enjoys her cigarettes though by listening to her voice. If she can afford the 300-400/month on that shit, she should be paying her rent!!

[@CptInsano835]

I would be so ashamed to live in someones home and not pay. Once I my autopay was late to my mortgage company and I even called to apologize for that. This lady feels totally fine just squatting and smiling in court.

[@stevemazz3121]

YOU ARE RIGHT.... did you see the smirk on the deadbeat's face as the judge was speaking?

[@michaellance6627]

she's jewish, and yo'ure surprised?

[@neverdive1059]

I’m very confused. This woman is on zoom, clearly operating an electronic device with an internet connection. She hasn’t melted, her brain hasn’t short circuited, she’s remained conscious. Has she been cured from the afflictions that prevented her prior appearances? Is she wearing tinfoil undergarments to protect her just for this hearing? The people need to know.

[@slamfreepoetry1845]

Well, everyone is a grifter these days.... She could a said it because her melanin

[@forthefunofit3230]

cause the dried up cu.t knows what she is doing to get by with this!!! i would park in front of her 'new place' and turn up wifi or whatever to the max!!

[@marylogansutherland901]

It's obviously sapping her psychic energy, duh. She won't be able to read palms for weeks after this

[@FrenkTheJoy]

Everytime I think about this woman and her electricity/wifi allergy I just laugh that the access to the mechanical stuff for the building was in her unit and that apparently wasn't an issue even though depending on the material and complexity that can legitimately cause issues with people (mostly headaches, but old wiring can also cause paranoia and rashes). So like, she can't go to court because the electricity will kill her but living next to the electric/mechanical panel in the building was fine!

[@TRUMP-ki9vn]

Don’t forget she had every strain of COVID and continues to develop strains that have not been discovered. I am saddened by how Judge Simpson treated the plaintiff. I just love him but I think Ed he missed the mark on this one!

[@scottfuqua8710]

Usually I agree with Judge Simpson - not today. Landlord deserves full judgement.

[@Stray..]

Agreed. People always take advantage of landlords. Even courts, who allow people to squat for months or a year. Landlords have to pay mortgage on those properties unless some unusual circumstances exist.

[@Dave-ji1yp]

THE JUDGE IS RIGHT ON. HE IS WISE.

[@Dave-ji1yp]

​@Stray.. FOR LANDLORDS THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TENANTS.

[@Stray..]

@@Dave-ji1yp Tell that to the land lords who are stuck paying the mortgage while some scammer squats in his house for a year.

[@christking85]

He is one of the worst judges for landlords. HE acts like they are all rich and should deal with losing money. Unless the defendant makes him mad them he is fair to the landlord.

[@pollycebula605]

So this landlord just has to bite the bullet, and kiss this money goodbye? This defendant is a thief and she doesn't even have the good grace to be ashamed of stealing.

[@samuelfreeman2181]

it is amazing at what some people can self-justify....

[@anythingforselenas806]

Exactly!! That smirk on her face says everything! I hope any landlords in that area see this and blackball her!!!

[@OtDawn]

💯

[@teagancombest6049]

What money do you suppose the defendant use to pay her? Or are we bringing back debtors prison?

[@gamemusicify]

​​@teagancombest6049 don't want to be on the hook for money you claimed you can pay? Don't sign contracts stating you will pay x amount lady is a con artist and should be in jail for theft if you get a service and refuse to pay for it despite stating you would your In the wrong

[@Letsdolunch2023]

Rent is owed. The defendant owes landloard. How is this hard to figure out?

[@Ladycop507]

That’s what I’m saying!! What good is court?!?

[@lucillerafter3014]

Nanci Gerler seems so smug. So she has lived rent free for many months.

[@lucillerafter3014]

I don't think the owner would have agreed if she had known the money would not be forthcoming right away.

[@millipedic]

@@lucillerafter3014 Big mistake to rent to a deadbeat. But how do you know in advance? Maybe don't rent to anybody who claims to be a psychic, you know they are a scammer.

[@debbiejacobs6232]

Hear we go excuse, excuse,. I new this would happen these deadbeats always get off.

[@PruneHub]

@@lucillerafter3014 If by "right away" you mean "never" then yes.

[@PruneHub]

@@millipedic Good point.

[@Alana.A.]

So the courts let this squatter drag this along and then treats the landlord like she's being ridiculous??? Broken system

[@roslynhawkins1475]

Simpson is always biased against landlords.

[@cattycorner8]

100%

[@Wicky89]

Agreed

[@Christopher-dd1ph]

Yea wtf

[@tamparockout17]

Courts camp garnish social security though unless it's owed to the government.

[@Tam58851520]

Nasty Gerler needs to be charged with felony theft. She stole $12K+ from the landlord. She knows she's judgment proof and willingly "took" from the landlord. Put her in jail and have her SSI pay to the landlord until the debt is paid!. Never understood why rent theft is any different than theft of any other service or product.

[@SonyaMN69]

Unfortunately, if you are in jail longer than a certain amount of time (I think it's 10 days) you lose your SSI benefits, so the landlord wouldn't receive the money anyway. Sadly, the landlord will most likely never see the money.

[@samuelfreeman2181]

get real... it is not 'theft'.. she stole nothing... she IS a deadbeat tenant and should have been evicted long before she ran up $12,000 in past due rent... it is not theft because you voluntarily gave them possession... it is breach of contract, and unlawful detainer also, SSI is completely exempt from collection, CAN'T TOUCH IT... yes, it is frustrating, I lost money to a deadbeat tenant, and my father actually had to pay his tenant's first months rent at a new place to get them out... you have to screen these people very thoroughly... you rent to a judgment proof tenant, that is what you get when they default... don't get mad, get smart

[@kevinkerr9405]

A breach of contract is not treated as theft.

[@Ty-bz7zx]

It seems to be like GUN Violence ... Never hear about knife or bat violence. Simpson absolutely lost his mind and my respect on this one.

[@samuelfreeman2181]

@@Ty-bz7zx why? he did a great job reaching a compromise

[@barbknitsandcrochets]

Ugh, the defendant was so SMUG. She sat there grinning because she knows she's never going to pay a penny. I usually like Judge Simpson but he was not helpful in this case.

[@jenn_x.]

That smirk was irritating me to no end!

[@onbored9627]

He was very helpful. He can't do anything to force her to pay, she's on SSI. It's protected income.

[@chriskulpa4056]

He was as helpful as he could be given the circumstances. His hands were tied as much as anyone's He did as best he could with the ability to get any money from the freeloader

[@danshotguns4226]

​@onbored9627 Except that he scolded the lady like she was the one in the wrong because she expects to be compensated for her services.She gave the lady a place to live and now because the lady doesn't make enough money to pay her.She just has to deal with being ripped off.And on top of that, the judge is going to treat her like a child who doesn't understand what's going on, even though she doesn't understand what's going on.Even though she does she's just angry and feels like it's unfair... What if her getting ripped off in this scenario?Set her back in another scenario like she couldn't pay certain bills because of this lady? Nobody cares about how this affects the landlord.They only care about the lady Is who lives rent free... He bullied her into accepting this.

[@onbored9627]

@@danshotguns4226 I've seen the entirety of the recorded hearings from this case, and I assure you, he didn't bully anyone. If you've also seen them all, and still feel that way, I don't know what to tell you. He's been more than nice, and getting her to settle was her best bet at getting any money because the woman was only ever going to pay the money voluntarily as she's on protected income. So, by settling the woman thinks she won and will potentially pay. The landlord is so unorganized, unprofessional, talked over Judge Simpson over and over. They both were insufferable, the land lady just was better than the obviously crazy woman.

[@mikethomas1009]

Nanci is the reason I would NEVER be a landlord.

[@sharthun2009]

It is not this judges concern on how the landlord is going to collect on the judgment. He needs to rule in the landlords favor for the entire 12k and let her worry about collecting.

[@justinphoenix21]

That would require a.trial. The plaintiff decided to agree to an immediate judgement of about $9k instead. If plaintiff wanted to go to trial for the additional $3k judgement it was her perogative.

[@millipedic]

@@justinphoenix21 The extra $3000 she would never be able to collect anyway.

[@anythingforselenas806]

That’s not exactly how it works my guy…🥴

[@sharthun2009]

@@anythingforselenas806 Educate me then. How does it work?

[@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock]

Good thing you're here to tell him how to do his job.

[@Myella229]

She didn't pay and now the judge just wants her to forgive and forget. She is going to do the same thing to the next person. Judge Simpson got way too annoyed with the landlord that is owed the money.

[@ceelavee]

Yes!

[@pissedoffshitzu601]

For practical reasons the defendant is judgment-proof. She owns nothing and there is a law against garnishing SSI payments.

[@samuelfreeman2181]

nothing was 'forgiven', judge did a good job and reached a compromise.... getting paid is now on the landlord-- good luck

[@Anunnaki_Decendant]

​@@samuelfreeman2181A compromise was made assuming she would pay the reduced figure, as soon as she balked on that and said she basically has no income, the landlord should have said fine, I want the full amount. If she isn't going to pay anyway, why not get the full judgement. That was a stupid decision for the judge to push for a reduction since he already eluded to the fact that the tenant was uncollectable, he just didn't want to be bothered with a trial for some reason, which isn't like him normally.

[@teagancombest6049]

Yeah try renting with an eviction and 12k judgement on your credit report. So easy!

[@chriswoodboogernelson2395]

This is ridiculous. The woman should have to pay the full amount. That’s BS that you can say that you have disability and can’t afford it. How were you going to pay if you were still living there. I hate thieves and con artists

[@bkalldaybkallday8296]

She will never collect anything on it

[@ichaukan]

Don't hate the players, hate the game.

[@samuelfreeman2181]

"... I hate thieves and con artists".... so don't rent to them

[@timetotalk9994]

Sewage Simpson is out to empower all sewage in his district to rip off landlords. Then he is going to be the first to scream discrimination when no one will be a landlord in his district I hope every landlord is smart enough to watch KZbin so they know who not to rent to That is the one of the best things about court KZbin, the victims can now see the sewage and save themselves

[@chriswoodboogernelson2395]

@@ichaukan that’s just stupid

[@emorykat]

What a minute...are we saying that the COURT can't make this woman pay even the $9404? If that's the case why would anyone EVER be a landlord? There HAS to be justice somehow?????!!!! Pay or jail!

[@CptInsano835]

Exactly! People will stop renting soon and I'm with them. I had 2 renters for 3 years. Luckily they were never late but once they moved I sold and will never rent again because of the crap I see in videos lile this.

[@kravor5341]

Problem is this is civil case not a criminal one, so jail can't be allocated for this. Also not paying your debts is not classified as a crime in 99% of all cases (there are special circumstances but this is a run of the mill landlord/renting case, not a multi million dollar failure to deliver goods/services fraud kind of casel). Let's say the judge did enforce the full amount, then comes the real hard part, getting the money. Based on the defendants declared income, the payments (which would take months before they could be figured out/enforced, with court costs/fees) would be so small, they would NEVER recoup that money in their lifetime. Unfortunately, the landlord is better off writing the money off than taking these actions. It's morally wrong doing what the defendant did, of that there is no doubt. But there is no feasable way to punish them for it and I would bet everything I own that whatever assets the defendant owns/money in the bank wouldn't even scratch the surface of the debt. You do not go to jail for not paying your debts in 99% of all cases and this is true in many countries. This is why private letting property is a HUGE risk and should never be entered into unless you can go without that money. It's one of the reasons its a terribly bad idea to mortage a property and pay that with the rent made letting the property out, if you get bad tenants, you're screwed.

[@SonyaMN69]

It is very rare that I disagree with a decision any judge makes. After everything that Ms. Gerler has put the plaintiff through, I feel it was very unfair to badger her in the manner he did. I feel it was a form of intimidation on his part. Watching Ms. Gerler smirk when the judge was talking to the plaintiff was disheartening, to me it gave her a win that she didn't deserve. The plaintiff in this case deserved every penny that she was asking for.

[@ronc96001]

HE IS part of the problem

[@air_cooled_andy]

Agree!

[@albatros386]

He did not badger her. It is not his job to reprimand the tenant for non paying, he was willing to put the whole amount of judgement to the plaintiff’s favor, but since the tenant is on SSA he cannot force that judgement into it as he indicated. In the end the plaintiff decided to drop 3k herself, and then Simpson made a judgement in the plaintiff’s favor I believe. The problem is, how is she going to make that money from a now disabled person that has no income.

[@SonyaMN69]

@@albatros386 I stand by my opinion.

[@albatros386]

@@SonyaMN69 i didn’t mean to try to change your opinion. Just opinions are opinions and law is law. Government cannot garnish SSA unless it is a debt for the government. Does not matter if he indicates this info with intimidation on tenant or not the end is the same. And after going through criminals on a daily basis I understand why judges want to be as civil as possible where it can be.

[@jackvanleeuwenkamp4706]

I do not understand the judges attitude on this case. This is a thief!

[@creativewriter3887]

I was incensed with his attitude and his demeanor. However, his hands were tied. He knew that this POS would never be compelled to pay the Owners back. She's on SSI which could NEVER be garnished or touched, and even if she were doing a side hustle, there's no way to prove that, substantiate the amount of that income. At this point, he knew there was NO recourse for the Owners. All he could do issue a judgement then again, it becomes the Owners' responsibility and good luck in getting this POS to comply with an order. He essentially said, it's a lost cause. He could have lectured the POS but he didn't. I would have. So this POS gets to run her game in another place.

[@yislaw]

Because he knows that it's a waste of time because the judgment would never be paid.

[@steveroyer1628]

he knows she has no money anyway.

[@anythingforselenas806]

Next time I go grocery shopping, when they ask me to pay I’m going to say..”ohh no no no, but I’m disabled…..” See if I get all the things I want for free….🙄😑

[@fastsilverado]

Is that really a thing? I'm on disability and I can get free shit? Why am I struggling to pay bills.

[@cattycorner8]

@@fastsilverado Don't you get food stamp cash? And Medicaid? And rental assistance? And help with utilities?

[@fastsilverado]

@@cattycorner8 no I get nothing but a disability payment. They say my wife makes too much. She is a grade school teacher.

[@jonathanjones3126]

​@fastsilverado I don't think government has added inflation to their poverty index

[@ScubaFanatic60]

I feel so bad for this landlord. I doubt she'll see a penny. But maybe having this judgement on her record will make it harder for her to find another place to rent.

[@centexan]

Simpson is wrong. If the lady owes the money, that's what the judgement should be.

[@melgibbons9874]

I hate that the defendant gets away with not paying but once in collections. If she does not pay up she will be screwed. For get another rental place or getting financing. This is why I would never rent a place to someone. To many horror stories. The lady is a grifter.

[@jillspence7227]

Me neither, too many people are such bad tenants that it is not worth it, let them live on the streets.!

[@powrguy1696]

@@jillspence7227 Yeah; so we (the taxpayers) can all pay for their hotels, meals, education, medical care, EBT's, etc.

[@holofish]

"Are you working?" "Hell no! Why would I do that?"

[@jeffanderson6390]

I normally am a fan of Simpson, but he was kinda rubbing me the way this time. He's too tenant biased sometime. She flat out stole 12000 from the property owner. Theft of that amount is a felony.

[@lisele39]

“ How are you going to get that “, that’s the point. She can’t garnish her SSI like he also said and I highly doubt that the defendant ever plans on working again. She can go through a trial to try win and most probably never see a dime, grant her the full amount now and she never sees a dime or lastly send Gerler to jail/prison and she never sees a dime. Unfortunately thieves don’t always pay the full monty. I want Naci to be responsible for all her shenanigans too but I get the reality his presenting

[@teagancombest6049]

How do you want him to get the plaintiff paid? With taxpayer dollars?

[@Resinpro]

lmao, its not a felony. Do you propose she magically creates money with her magic psychic abilities or what? You want to see her thrown in a cage? Like, what EXACTLY is your preferred outcome here? (I say this being a landlord who has been ripped off to the tune of nearly 20k in the last decade, not counting household damage for more)

[@stevenkovler5133]

There may be a law in Detroit like in NYC. These laws are always in favor of the tenants. Even if the judge feels the landlord deserves the rent, some times their hands are tied. My family owns a two family home so I know these crazy laws…

[@ronc96001]

Not a fan of him!

[@lilybug246]

He pretty much told the thief she didn’t have to pay anything. There needs to be criminal charges when squatters stay a damn year and the courts won’t do anything. The entitlement of people is unreal. The landlord is living on social security also. 😡

[@ronc96001]

Makes me sick! HE IS too busy playing with his intern to do his job!

[@slamrobot6584]

How does the judge not understand this? It's extremely cut and dry.

[@samuelfreeman2181]

you are the one that does not understand.... the judge brokered an agreement... a stipulation, a COMPROMISE... plaintiff could have been stupid, and insisted on a trial, and probably would have won the entire amount, maybe not... it is people like you that clog our courts with millions of cases that most likely will never get paid

[@slamrobot6584]

@@samuelfreeman2181 barf

[@slamrobot6584]

@@samuelfreeman2181 barf

[@teagancombest6049]

How do you not understand that the plaintiff accepted a settlement? She didn't have to, he offered a trial.

[@slamfreepoetry1845]

Why can't we just tell the BANK, "I don't owe it because of 5G radiation"??? 😂😂😂😂

[@anythingforselenas806]

Right…..but I’m disabled…

[@dcviper985]

Wow, I almost expected Ms. Gerler to be in an iron lung or something.

[@gojiberry7201]

Lol!

[@BrianMunger-h3g]

Ha ha 😂😂😂

[@pv2xeek]

I experience joy in it's purest form every time Judge interrupts her and doesn't let her finish her psychotic rambling.

[@gojiberry7201]

Yes, she's definitely used to being in control.

[@susanhammes-us4lg]

She should just ask all the spirits she talks to for money since that is her business….

[@jenniferrandolph4115]

That landlord/owner will NEVER see a penny!

[@mtmc823]

Your Honor < " I will never pay her anything, TY Judge for helping me get out of this unscathed"

[@sandijordan2155]

As a landlord I received a judgement for $25,000 . The person left the state and I never saw a dime. It’s a joke to go through this process. The property was destroyed and we had to put it back together. Good luck seeing any payments.

[@nhbountyhunter]

JG Wentworth... Its my money and I want it now! You may only get 25% of your claim but you could have gotten someting.

[@johnr2988]

If Nancy receives SSI the most she receives is approximately $950 per month. How much was her rent? Sounds like the rent was unaffordable from the beginning and she should have to show how much she made as a psychic. If I was the landlord I would make a report to Social Security about possible unreported self employment income She should owe the whole $12000

[@ronc96001]

Judge should pay for the days HE allowed renter to stay at least!

[@JudyGurl]

How do you figure that max is $950 a month?

[@jenniferbmendezful]

Moral of the story don’t rent to charlatans. Psychic is not an above-board consistent gig and they say whatever you want them to say. If it’s not in the Occupational outlook handbook then they ain’t got no job! Being disabled is their full time crying gig. There is a pattern of behavior hst will never end as it has been rewarded.

[@FrenkTheJoy]

"What you're fighting about doesn't make sense to me" I'm sorry judge, what's hard to understand about "She owes me rent" vs "No I don't"

[@christiantchan]

the part where there is no way to collect the money after the judgement is rendered. Defendant admitted to owing 9k, plaintiff wants 12k, no matter what the judge awards, 9k or 12k, there is no way to enforce collection of any amount because defendant has no money eligible for garnishment. the outcome is the same, plaintiff actually collects 0 in both outcomes, and judgement against the Defendant is on record. by forcing the judge to adjudicate the 3k discrepancy, all it did was waste another hour of their lives.

[@sharthun2009]

I guess she got her "high frequency/WiFi" allergy taken care of.

[@Aerik]

As my lawyer once told me, A judgement is just a piece of paper, and you can wipe your ass with it for all it's worth.

[@OSGCourtWatch]

truer words were never spoken aerik!

[@cmstacy]

Think of this saying every time someone has to go to court.

[@vialogan]

True. But at least in some cases, people don't want a judgement or eviction on their record. Although, more and more, people don't give a crap.

[@nylarcvoice4871]

The bad tenant looks much older than retirement age, at which point SSDI turns into regular SS, hence she’s not considered disabled anymore. Also, the judge should ask what the tenant did with the money that should have been paid in rent. Perhaps she saved it, or gave it to someone. If true then the landlord should be able to go after her. No wonder rent is so expensive these days. Landlords have to figure the cost of eviction and non payment of rent into every rental. Not to mention the cost of cleanup and fixing broken crap. All the while keeping their own head above water to pay the mortgage.

[@ceelavee]

Just watched this on another channel. Judge Simpson's demeanor during this hearing was disappointing. The gall for a landlord to get monies owed. 🙄

[@huma474]

he hates landlords and does this often. Think about the number of times he has pushed cases out beyond the required time frames because he feels like it , doesn't even bother waiting for the plaintiffs to object because he's not gonna listen anyway.

[@ceelavee]

@@huma474 💯

[@DC-lf8fj]

He's being REALISTIC. It's virtually impossible to get retirement checks garnished from even moderate income people. It's not even easy to get garnishments from people with moderate incomes who are working. If the landlord can get the tenant to agree and make voluntary payments they are much better off.

[@jtsotherone]

@@DC-lf8fj finally someone who gets it!

[@ceelavee]

@@DC-lf8fj so, based on that logic, the tenant shouldn't have a judgment against her? Because she SAYS she can't pay, because she only gets SSI or SSDI, but stated on record that she has a business?

[@AmyCorley-vl6ih]

That’s like stealing 12000 dollars. A felony. She should go to jail

[@travishawkins5923]

It doesn't pay to own property if she owes it she. Owes it. Why is this a question for the judge

[@hmonstergal]

Why does the judge make the landlord feel like crap requesting money she is owed? That’s shocking how he shames her, a hard working woman. Borderline bullied her to make that decision. Shame on you judge.

[@TheUluxian]

Aggravating they want to include this "mythical" $3000 that the Landlord NEVER received (not like the landlord is ever going to see a penny of this judgment anyway..🙄)

[@davidjones2870]

It would be way less money if Simpson evicted her when the law said he should. This guy needs to retire ASAP.

[@slc1161]

I’m disliking judge Simpson more and more. He’s so pro tenant that landlords don’t stand a chance in his court. If you can’t afford the rent, don’t move in. Period.

[@bobbiec2829]

I enjoy Judge Simpson on everything except landlord cases. I rarely see him not screw over a landlord in some way. He's being nasty with this particular landlord for no reason imo.

[@andread1744]

Agreed, 💯

[@xxbreadpine10]

While I don’t always agree with Simpson and I think in this case the defendant was in the wrong, I’m so glad there’s finally a judge standing up to bully landlords!! Who think they can charge 3x what a place is worth, not fix any problems, unlawfully keep security deposits. They’ve been getting away with it for too long.

[@sixbrigands]

I can’t bring myself to have sympathy for landlords. A rental home is an investment and investments have risks. If they can’t tolerate the risks they can always sell.

[@bobbiec2829]

@sixbrigands not necessarily true. My mom has maintained ownership of the home I grew up in and rents it out...and for a much lower price than she should. The home is being kept for a few reasons, and I promise, as an investment isn't one of those reasons. There are still monthly costs that need cared for, and it's a big strain when a tenant doesn't pay rent. She's had to evict a few tenants. The last one destroyed the property, and she lost money on repairs and rent for the time it took to repair. Not all landlords are companies or investors and it hurts a lot when a tenant doesn't pay and even more so when they damage the property (which isn't really relevant here).

[@carriematthews7991]

This con artist is a thief. She should not be allowed all this time rent free. I call BS on this.

[@annmarieschantz9724]

She should have not let this go one forever, she should of brought her to court the first month that wasn't paid.

[@heidischulze4057]

I agree, but this went on during Covid when you couldn't get rid of a bad tenant.

[@broberts2043]

Ms. Gerler, shame on you. Judge Simpson, shame on you too.

[@allisonjames2923]

The problem with tenants who default on rent is that you can’t get blood from a stone 🤷‍♀️ Judge Simpson can rule that she owes every cent, but it’s nearly impossible to GET the money from these thieves unless they actually have valuable assets that can be seized. He’s not being anti the landlord, he’s just being honest (& he’s understandably a bit annoyed that they keep talking over him!). I spent a while working as a property manager & I took a heap of defaulting tenants to court & got rulings against every one of them. But, only if the landlords had landlord protection insurance did they actually get all or even most of the money. You can only request the court to garnish wages, and if people have assets you can apply to the court to get them seized. But most of these people who default on rent for long periods don’t have assets & don’t have wages high enough to garnish enough to fully get the money owed. He might seem like he’s not being fair to the landlord, but he’s just being practical & realistic. He’s trying to get the landlord SOME money back. The law & reality of the lives these grifters lead just doesn’t help 🤷‍♀️

[@donna8357]

Oh I remember her...the tin-foil hat lady!

[@alainbourgault1937]

I never understood how it was possible to steal for thousands of dollars from someone and it's not taken more seriously just because it's rent. If someone came to your house and stole10,000 dollars from you, they would be charged with a felony. Why is it not the same???!?!?

[@luizjsilva33]

Judge Simpson is a SIMP for Squatters. What a disgrace for the robe, no amount of folksy good humor can mask his contempt for landlords. He has the audacity of complaining that the plaintiff is wasting time trying to get her money, when he let this drag for months!

[@jeanettebennett2421]

This is so unfair to landlords

[@cruzinbill]

I'm sure if she owed the City/State $12k they wouldn't just say she can't afford it and treat it how they did here.

[@anythingforselenas806]

Right?!?! …her cats would owe that debt!! 😑

[@45papadoc]

Rental property is like playing dice when the tenants have loaded dice......😂

[@sbolton89]

it truly can go both ways for tenants and property owners. in general people only care about themselves for the most part

[@jillspence7227]

@@sbolton89 exactly, despite all the touchy feely bs touted around everywhere these days, selfishness and entitlement rule. The rest is just word salad.

[@huma474]

and people wonder why fewer people want to rent out houses in Michigan or elsewhere and why rents are jumping through the roof as corporations take control of most rentals.

[@CoachKarin]

Oh come fricking on! No program paid, she played the landlord and the COURT!! She owes, period the end. This tenant is an absolute CON! Shame on you Simpson, give her the judgement so she at least has a leg to stand on to attempt get something back!

[@agapereign]

Ole girl has NO intentions of paying a dime.

[@chrisjohnson1049]

The only way to stem this nonpaying tenants, go the whole 9 yards. Enter the judgment that gets on her credit report. Try getting an apartment after that! And why not consider assets?

[@judeiz2203]

In the middle of evicting a tenant it makes no sense to accept payments from the gov, state or charity. If a landlord accepts financial assistance then the landlord must start the eviction process all over again.

[@cattycorner8]

And the judge must have known that.

[@goodchessactor]

She's psychic. She already knows the Judge's ruling.

[@carolinesharpe5059]

I other words this plaintiff is OUT all her money. All this freeloader will do is move on and squat on someone else’s property.

[@christineterry2381]

Simpson seems always to rule on the side of those that take advantage of landlords. I use to like him.

[@lawrencegenereux8567]

Agreed.

[@beeroney8513]

Another grifter getting away with it.

[@kelcarr9623]

Why is this judge often so biased?

[@gloriahufnagel5556]

OHHH.. is this the “ I’m allergic to electronic devices” ?!?!.. You mean she went on Zoom & didn’t EXPLODE??😂. She looks just as I thought she would..

[@huma474]

Its always extremely frustrating when you see Judges like Simpson trying to discourage landlords from pursuing their rights. It doesn't matter if the woman can't be completely collected from, attempting to discourage someone from pursuing their meritorious case just makes it clear that you believe their rights matter less than the defendants.

[@ktkilntime1586]

No, he said he would do a trial, but what he was getting at was that there was a valid claim by the tenant that she would have received a subsidy for rent if the landlord had not moved to evict her. So It was possible that the could have ruled against the landlord and deducted that $3,000 anyway. Judges are as much in the business of resolving disputes as they are in supervising trials.

[@nickluquire7126]

I don't know if a renter has to disclose unpaid judgements on rental applications, but the owner of a property should be informed of any suggestion the renter wants to live there for free.

[@redwarpy]

The Judgement will at least assist in the next landlord having forewarning that this woman is a leech.

[@huma474]

@@ktkilntime1586 pay attention to his affect when she said she still wanted to go forward with things - he made it clear he was frustrated and angry with her for continuing.

[@MrJptruss]

@@huma474 Yes because she doesn't know what she's doing. While the defendant is not innocent, this has gone on for as long as it has because the plaintiff never hired an attorney and just assumed she could do things on her own.

[@user-wr1hg1qi2f]

I made the mistake of renting out my house when I moved out of town for 6 months. My tenant paid nothing beyond the first month. I tried to get legal help and quickly found out the law does not protect the landlord at all. I went to court and got a judgement in my favor. They still had another 3 months to vacate. I still never got any money and it cost me $10,000 to repair the damage done to my house.

[@stephenbowles7153]

in other words the defendant will never pay what she owes

[@donnap4154]

Why are they never working? Why rent a place you can’t afford?

[@jillspence7227]

Because the Courts are always on their side, and she got away with non payment of around $10,000 of rent.

[@huma474]

Because they're a scammer who knows how to rip people off.

[@donnap4154]

@jillspence7227 @hum474 Rant ahead. 😂 It is a kick in the gut to those that are working and trying to make ends meet, also to those that work hard and may get ahead also to I has a retiree who is widowed, husband and I worked all our lives. Had good paying positions. He passed from cancer at 65 of pancreatic cancer (Apr to Sept) just before retirement. I get a portion of his and my own pension…we are all paying for Nanci Rose’s scam. You may be to young to remember the expression “color me blue” in my case “color me discussed, or maybe pissed”. Blessings on your week. Thanks for listening!

[@stephenbowles7153]

That is just it, they can afford it because they will not have to pay

[@Cumdown]

Its a non payment of rent case... Of course they 'are never working'. Switch your brain on mate

[@SmokingCats]

that tenant's smirking is disgusting. She knows nothing will happen to her and she will keep doing it. Simpson needs to stop playing "fair" and be fair to these landlords.

[@Elizabeth-rl8hi]

The more I watch Judge Simpson's court, the less respect I have for him. The lady SHOULD PAY THE FULL AMOUNT!! He constantly screws over landlords!

[@travisfullpowerssj]

But he's trying to save the Landlord even more time and money. He knows this defendant is judgement proof. He understands wanting her money, but he knows that it doesn't matter what judgement he makes, this defendant has no means to pay, no means to be garnished, nothing. By the system of law, he could have had a full trial, more hours and time and cost, and the plaintiff could have gotten a larger judgement. But the plaintiff would be sitting with the same amount of money, 0. Because this defendant either knows the system well enough that she knows SSI can't be garnished and she'll just take cash for her "readings" or she's just lucky she's only got SSI.

[@Blueeyegang]

Fuk your land lord how bout that we need a judge that gives folks a chance sometimes it’s deserved

[@Timmichanga361]

Of she cant pay and has no intention of 'making commitment' to pay.....why is she squabbling

[@markharmon7598]

Gerler sitting there smirking aggravates me.

[@danwhite2482]

She should get a garnishment on her record so she won’t do this to another landlord.

[@msqueen3513]

YES, to most comments here. Judge Simpson, whom I adore, did not do this judgement fairly. I don’t get him on this, should landlords just have to go bankrupt for non paying tenants? This landlord is also on social security retirement which she worked and earned via work and wages. Her tenant is under SSI, totally different circumstance. What is going with the most fair Judge Simpson?

[@msqueen3513]

A landlord still has to make mortgage payments on a property if the tenant does not make payment. Plus, the taxes and insurances. SSI means you don’t have enough work credits to receive a legitimate retirement income. Should a landlord just hand over their property for free? I don’t get Judge Simpson on this case.

[@travishawkins5923]

Judge screwed her out of three thousand dollars

[@svenulfskjaldbjorn5401]

And the renter screwed her out of the rest. She NEVER EVER INTENDED TO PAY THE RENT. She is a thief!!

[@Yoda8945]

She won't be able to collect it anyway. 😣

[@John_McJohnson]

Imagine thinking you can collect money from someone on welfare.

[@huma474]

She dared to challenge Simpson and not just walk away when he told her he didn't feel like doing the case, he's very vindictive when people do that and stops following the law when challenged.

[@stephenbowles7153]

He actually screwed her out of 12400.00

[@Ruth-k2d]

OK now let's trash the owner for not being able to collect rent rightfully owed

[@Chloechanel1963]

It seems wrong

[@jillspence7227]

Of course, these days right is wrong and wrong is right.

[@ceelavee]

Seeing some comments to that effect. But, I'm really surprised. It's a debt that should be paid.

[@huma474]

ya, it was frustrating as heck to see Simpson just want to walk away from the case as if it was a waste of his time to do his job. His "I'm here for the case" spiel was obviously a lie given the amount of time he spent just trying to get someone to walk away so he didn't have to do the judgement that he knew needed to happen.

[@ceelavee]

@@huma474 right?! Like, this is just another case to him, and I can appreciate the time and work that being a judge entails, but part of that is presiding over trials. I would have felt intimidated by his hollering to go for a trial if I was the landlord. He was just sick of the case.

[@Sizukun1]

How do you think you'll get the $12k owed to you? She's poor! So why bother prosecuting poor people who steal, judge?

[@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock]

Yeah, exactly. It's not like you can go to jail for owing someone money. Best thing is to avoid doing business with deadbeats altogether

[@teagancombest6049]

Do you want us to have a debtors prison?

[@eileenmcdonald1599]

Yes

[@cattycorner8]

@@teagancombest6049 How do you think we should handle this kind of brash larceny?

[@christineterry2381]

When are judges going to land on the side of landlords EVER?

[@cmsxcb]

The Victorians had the right idea - Debtor's Prison. Stay in jail until the debt's paid (by family, friends or the sale of assets) or until you work it off by manual labour.

[@millipedic]

How is she going to work it off? Psychic readings?

[@cmsxcb]

@@millipedic That was the downside of the system. Basically, it was slave labour and the jail could also skim Govt money off the prisoners too by paying them even less than the incredibly low "wages" already set by Law. They also charged the prisoners for food, bedding, etc so it would take forever to pay off their debts. It was basically the Workhouse system with the voluntary part removed.

[@marymac-ith1912]

Why would someone be responsible for someone else's debt bc they are family? Isn't that like sharing blame for a crime?

[@FrenkTheJoy]

Well this whole thing will teach that landlord to ever be sympathetic to any renter ever again. Letting this lady stay on the property rent-free for 11 months will probably haunt her to her grave.

[@screwthisin]

And get things in writing.

[@bonniecreighton4163]

How disgusting. He needs to lock her up, where she will live "rent free"....then order her SSD/SSI payments to be given to the landlord. Keep her locked up until the landlord gets every last red cent!!! (and "yes"...I know there are Federal guidelines governing SSD/SSI and who can get those monies and who cannot.....)

[@user-ut6tk5gq8p]

Why is the judge moaning about how the plaintiff is going to collect? Take that approach with every lawsuit, and no one will pay for anything. Really crappy work by this judge.

[@GummyBearWA]

Either way, the defendant now has a judgment against her. Which will screw her up trying to rent something else.

[@dyanstoutenburg9974]

I’m so happy to hear this!

[@stephenbowles7153]

True, but that does not get the money owed the plaintiff. This is what happens when liberalism/communism takes ahold.

[@powrguy1696]

Only until she gets a Lawyer that argues the denial of anything to her is an ADA violation......Disability is a get-out-of-jail-free card, today.

[@glendapate1960]

These people like her should be held accountable for trying to steal, and you stay in the house

[@AnnMarieMendes]

How is it people don't have to pay their rent? Put her in jail for 30 days and see if she can come up with the money.

[@FreeLearner222]

Judge is bullying the plaintiff. Sickening.

[@johnharling5246]

Who thinks the landlord will get a penny of the money she is owed,

[@lisadelpeche3371]

unfortunately, she won't but the judgement will be on the tenant record.

[@JBo_Redneck]

Actually disappointed with Judge Simpson on this one. He definitely is perpetuating the appearance that 'squatters' have more rights and protections than landlords. Maybe if landlords had more protections than they currently do rents would be lower?? Not in this example, but say someone owns an 8 unit complex. Over-charges 5 tenants who pay on time to subsidize 3 tenants that don't pay because the legal system encourages non-payment of rent. Just a thought.

[@ceelavee]

She admitted on the record that she has a business. But stole a place to live.

[@forthefunofit3230]

lein on said property

[@anythingforselenas806]

Judge Simpson acting like a whole SIMP. Ms Nanci is the kinda person to win the lottery and blow it all before paying her debts…

[@claremizusawa]

17:22 she should ask her for a psychic reading and see what she foresees ✨

[@thepixilator9593]

Why can’t the court just reposes or sell her possessions such as jewelry, antiques, etc until she pays the full amount???? The bank does it to debtors

[@kellyh1360]

I’m don’t see why Judge Simpson was so against filing this judgement, it’s the right thing to do. If the defendant has a win fall the plaintiff will get her money and I hope she does!

[@stephenbowles7153]

she wants to make no commitment and will not pay a f.....ng dime....WITH THE BLESSING OF THE COURT. So much for being a landlord

[@davidponseigo8811]

I love Judge Simpson but he has been to scared to do his job with this woman because he's afraid of what she will file against him. She needs to be in jail.

[@cattycorner8]

This is the one time I completely disagree with Judge Simpson. I am shocked that he does not see that Gerler is a scam artist.

[@jeanettebennett2421]

She going to be living rent-free and do the same thing as soon as she finds a permanent place that will take her she's a scam artist

[@angelmarauder5647]

10:01 "how do you intend to get that money" says the government to the citizen concerning the thief. Crazy times....

[@RebelSoul_]

She looks exactly like what I pictured in my mind. Well minus the tin foul hat, space blanket, and cup of coffee.

[@turtlebarnessr0248]

This lady is a real grifter. If she wasn’t so smug she’d get a little sympathy but she knows how to work the system and the landlord if left holding the bag. A common problem faced by many property owners. Even a promise to pay $100 a month would be a better pledge than to say I can’t pay anything now and not anytime in the near future.🤬

[@muskokamike127]

11:47 the defendant's ability to pay shouldn't come into question. The facts are: she owes the applicant x amt, how to collect that is not relevant.

[@missmermaid6249]

But he gave her the judgement like she wanted. Facts are…. it’s worthless because of defendant’s finances. So plaintiff only won a piece of paper and that’s all it will ever be 🤷‍♀️

[@muskokamike127]

@@missmermaid6249 You don't know "that will all it ever will be" you cannot predict the future. She might win the lottery right? Better to have the judgement on the record than not.

[@missmermaid6249]

@@muskokamike127 But you sorta do…she’s on SSI, you can’t garnish that, she has no assets, she’ll never be employed, prolly now lives in section 8 housing. Whatcha gonna go after? There’s nothing there. I get wanting to have the judgement, I really do. She deserved to win that 🤷‍♀️ I HOPE the plaintiff gets her money but IMO chances are slim to none.

[@muskokamike127]

@@missmermaid6249 BUT you're forgetting that she'd have NO chance if she didn't get the judgement. Slim is better than none.

[@missmermaid6249]

@@muskokamike127 Can’t argue there. I wish her luck, she deserves it.

[@sydneysomer9958]

Landlords deserves the rent Judge!!!!

[@YvonneMelvin]

Mi property owners, don’t get stuck in Court with Judge Simpson. He is ALWAYS on the side of the squatters, lazy, renters. I feel sorry for yall. 🤬🤬🤬

[@FrenkTheJoy]

And what gets me is it's not even like he feels bad for her for being on social security and her ailments. He's just angry that a landlord has the audacity to want rent - which isn't even the full rent owed, just SOME of it.

[@YvonneMelvin]

@@FrenkTheJoy yes indeed. Glad Fl is a red state. My dad was blue, but always said, pay Ceasar what Ceasar is due. No negotiating on taxes local or federal. He also said, a legal day of work equals a legal day pay. Plus that lady knew she couldn’t afford to live there and poo pooped her way the long way around to move out. In my book, that’s stealing.