BETTER THAN YOU THINK! *SHUNDO* CHARIZARD BURNS DOWN THE MASTER LEAGUE! | GO BATTLE LEAGUE

[@poketuff1758]

Jonkus, at 6:26 its the new inconsistent mechanic, where throwing a move actually doesn't take a turn, like the incinerate took 5 turns, and the two charms took 6, so because it didn't cost a turn, you got to the BB and won the game. I found out this mechanic is rly inconsistent, hopefully they fix it soon.

[@hassanmahmoud6495]

I will say, despite Ho Oh being better normal, if it gets mystical fire to it’s moveset, could make the shadow have an alternative benefit

[@NepNeppy]

Ho-Oh sadly does not have a good bait move that takes 3-2-3 for Incinerate unfortunately. Brave bird is 3-3-3 however it is not a bait move but the other moves are 4-3-3 for Incinerate which makes it a bit underwhelming when it comes to trying to outspeed opponents. If it ends up getting a move that is cheap to run and spammy then it would definitely make a great update, Flame Charge I'm pretty sure does not learn but it would be a Talonflame but for the ML.

[@hassanmahmoud6495]

@@NepNeppy literally why I suggested Mystical Fire, although, that only issue with that is that it may make it broken

[@jeffrhodes8103]

Think the only move is to make sacred fire cheaper

[@NepNeppy]

@@jeffrhodes8103 Sacred Fire being cheaper is something I would agree with too. It has access to powerful nukes as well for secondary move but most people would agree that a cheaper Sacred Fire + Brave Bird is the best combination since only hard counter is Rock which is extremely uncommon and they both cover each other.

[@naturalharmoniagropius4486]

​@@NepNeppyHo-oh can learn Flame Charge, jfyi

[@Kizzo76]

Hey! War echt genervt, als du noch zum Sturzflug gekommen bist.. cooles team! gg!

[@nagaumagarikiparthi640]

How funny you posted this video, I don't have a lot of lv 50 Pokemon so I just finished building lv 50 excadrill and have been running exca/Dnite/Zard these last couple days and Charizard has been doing amazing for me

[@Absolutepower7]

Charizard is such a great pokemon and one of my all time favourite. Was so happy when they gave him the wing attack buff 😊

[@NZtechfreak]

Maybe I should give my 15/15/14 one a run in ML (functional hundo at both level 50 and 51, not too many mons functional hundos at both levels), was a random trade that went lucky and of course maxed and best-friended.

[@sebastian-gs9ff]

Lugia you beast..is there any poke that can take more dmg and still live??

[@Denizozzzy003]

Perrrfact form Zygard UwU It eats a Both a PsyStrike Mewtwo/shadow like it's breakfast LOL

[@hugogomes8778]

What you do whit kyoguer safe?

[@faro7780]

This made me think that Hundo lvl 50 skeledirge could have play as well. Even more spammy than the Czard

[@patricks1969]

Every time the battle would be over the game starts to freeze and is loading unlimited. I have to close the game and it counts as a loss. Any suggestions how to fix it?

[@Lucky69K]

Rickslide melmetal??

[@berkan3392]

Jonkus, do you think it is okay to max a 15/15/12 Groudon for the ML? It is the best Groudon I got.

[@JonkusPKMN]

yeah

[@NepNeppy]

Definitely go for it. The 2 HP(actual HP) IV difference doesn't make too much of an impact at all. Because most things either 2-3 shot you and that +2 HP will not make any difference to Pokemons that mostly rely on charge move damage.

[@berkan3392]

​@@NepNeppy15/15/12 is losing in a 2 shield vs snorlax. Thats the only difference though 😅

[@NepNeppy]

@@berkan3392 Yup pretty much and you do not really see much Snorlax in the open ML honestly so no need to worry as well, and most of the times most people are not familiar with a Snorlax battle or would be winning to double shield anyways.

[@KingOfAllDingus]

im jealous i hunted so much on the com day classic and didnt get it, i have 2 96% shinies and a hundo with the party hat, i still want the shundo

[@NepNeppy]

The first time I got a shiny was years later despite all these com days and the only one I got was a 10/10/12 wild catch (not research)

[@Speed-lt9en]

At 11:27 I think opponent might had lagged the game to snipe you with dragon breath Not really sure but just a speculation

[@142Shimon]

Of course I run this team and I run into 3 excadrill teams in a row

[@JrAffy-t8d]

I still dont get why Charizard isnt a dragon type, it belongs in the DRAGON egg group. why is alolan exeggutor a dragon type? And not Charizard

[@zaarichard4597]

Because being a dragon is a state of mind

[@milowiosky4586]

I've used my 100 in master league before and I was pretty impressed

[@MatthewJrP]

What if they gave charizard shadow claw? Would it be better. Also they could give it dragon tail then fly so then you can do dragon damage still, fire damage and flying type damage. Thoughts?

[@Huqe]

It has Dragon Breath already, Dragon Tail wouldn't even be an upgrade

[@atton1085]

Nice games🤙🏼You think that in Master it’s better to have Wing Attack than Dragon Breath for Charizard ?

[@NepNeppy]

You give up fast charge for more fast move pressure and you win against dragon types barely. It means against pokemon like Dialga you will get energy the same rate they do meanwhile with Wing Attack you buildup energy faster so you can pressure shields quicker. It's pretty similar to Gyarados running Dragonbreath as a non-dragon user, you can deal with other dragons while taking neutral off them but your energy charge becomes much slower which is bad against Pokemons that charge quickly.

[@jeffrhodes8103]

Fire spin could be the move in masters. Sucks to give up that energy generation but fire is what you’re looking for. Just a guess no sims ran lol

[@NepNeppy]

Fire Spin is honestly okay for a move but the problem is 3 turn and not too good for energy rate and you will get walled hard against Dragons which is very common, also having a 2 turn move is convenient to a 3 or more. Open league not too good but premier classic against Excadrill and Metagross works wonders, even against Mamoswine which is good too

[@jeffrhodes8103]

I have the hundo shadow Zard and now I’m a little afraid of maxing it lol

[@sebastian-gs9ff]

It’s so expensive, I also have a hundo shadow dragonite, didn’t even tm away frustration because of the not possible use in the next time

[@ΓερασιμοςΜιχαλας]

ok lets just be honest charizard is great and it has a very good move set but why would you pick charizard when you have tallonflame that only needs 1 elite fast tm for incinerate and has better play than charizard that needs 1 elite fast and 1 elite charged it is just a bigger investment for a worse pokemon

[@milowiosky4586]

At least your considerate and even consider letting ppl get the win

[@cutemateio]

Who walls Virizion in the Ultra League? -Charizard -Vivillon -Talonflame

[@JrAffy-t8d]

Ariados and butterfree.... And many more

[@KingOfAllDingus]

kinda depends on the situation too, when down both shields while theyre up two and running stone edge you might be screwed

[@jankees4037]

Mandibuzz is a big block to Virizion. But also Galvantula if Virizion doesn't run Stone Edge. EDIT: And Skeledirge and Typhlosion.

[@NepNeppy]

Poison Types also hard wall Virizion as well and only StoneEdge hits for neutral. It's why Toxicroak mainly had a good time with it as it resists all move completely but Fire Flying works as well but you must respect the StoneEdge.

[@treysmith8410]

charizard is a beast!!

[@dergamer8826]

Erster.

[@karan_rajput75]

Tbh i dont like to watch loses, i felt like there were more loses than wins in this video

[@JonkusPKMN]

there werent more losses than wins in this video, 7 wins and 5 losses

[@karan_rajput75]

@@JonkusPKMN i just don't like to watch loses

[@mattiaskeinnn3317]

Feel sorry for your opponents? lol the ego, you throw so many games