Beyond Nu Metal: How Deftones Created WHITE PONY

[@TrashTheory]

So yeah, what's your favourite track from White Pony? Trash Theory playlists - Spotify: tinyurl.com/yxp32pjf Deezer: tinyurl.com/y2mdp8h2 Also if you want to help the channel out, here's my patreon link: patreon.com/trashtheory

[@TheVolginator]

feiticeira is an incredibly bizarre journey. And Nick Diaz using it as a walk in song before battering people in his own bizarre way is a perfect synergy

[@joelmonteiro1419]

That's super hard to answer. I love the instrumental on RX Queen, but the whole album is stellar.

[@DATA-qt3nb]

Change,feiticeira,knife party and elite but I enjoy the entire album of course

[@alexandranaughton7408]

I love the whole album but I think "knife party" and "pink maggit" are my favorites

[@Teejturtle]

Knife Party. I love the track. The lines "I can float here forever, In this room, We can't touch the floor" always hit a chord with me. I love Moreno's vocals. This video is great and seemed to have come at the perfect time of me nostalgically listening to their discography. Great vid as always.

[@noneofyourbusiness1114]

The best thing about deftones is every fan has a different favorite album and I think thats a testament to how good they are.

[@jarlwhiterun7478]

Versatile as hell, just like Mastodon and Radiohead.

[@Proactionguy]

what chino said at 17:50 was insanely accurate. their music is ever so timeless and their sound is still so unique after so many years. truly one of the most beautiful bands i've ever seen

[@awnaur0no919]

they sound timeless cuz, 4 sum reason, tha concept of r&b-trip hop-alt metal never caight on after numetal fell off & tha mainstream began promoting emo pop punk

[@CYB3R2K]

The were nu metal though. Him denying it makes him look a bit foolish

[@twizzy8783]

@@CYB3R2K wrong

[@1968spikey]

​@@CYB3R2K ridiculous

[@CYB3R2K]

@@1968spikey no

[@NeedITDeathHeated]

I can't believe I've slept on Deftones for this long. I've always known the name but never taken the plunge into their discography. White Pony is phenomenal surely, and at least now I get to experience this beautiful catalogue of a group of artist's work. Better late than never, and thank fuck for Deftones.

[@W0LF2612]

same. I'm so glad I've found em.

[@blackspring3207]

Welcome! I would say that the three album cycle of Around the Fur, white pony, and self-titled is the golden standard

[@SuperCabrito14]

Same! Change had been one of my favorite songs for years but I never bothered to dig deeper into the band until recently

[@Ovie_1]

Ditto.

[@sebs7676]

Welcome to the club guys. I grew up w the dtones but I stopped listening to them for a few years. I've just recently started listening to them, and still cant believe hiw good these guys are. If I would have just discovered them recently, they would definitely be my favorite band. RIP Chi 🌼

[@vincecerreto7851]

When you said “ Still, Deftones ride on” I whispered “ Fuck yea.” to myself.

[@tracystephens5014]

I said "fuck yeah" 3 times during this video & that was one of'em.

[@Mr061099]

When you're an angsty 14 year old White Pony completely shakes your life up, I know it did to me.

[@reyultra9247]

Whole world looked different after That

[@miserirken]

Yeah it changed my perspective on music completely for sure, and with it, it changed my whole view on, well, everything.

[@defgmx]

I discovered White Pony at this age too man! 9th grade!

[@ethanride3203]

Same

[@RichRobinson]

Yo! Haha

[@ClikcerProductions]

I think Deftones are definitely one of those bands that falls into the level of influence where "Your favourite bands favourite band" really applies well

[@hudu]

If you ever want to get into a fight in Sacramento, you can say one of two things: 1) The Lakers won the 2002 Western Conference finals fair and square 2) The Deftones are a nu-metal band.

[@ShodansServer]

LMAO

[@plusaffectueux]

Accurate

[@johnsmith-so5do]

hudu , I’m from LA so true man

[@hrishavhrick2888]

heck yes, it makes me mad when people yell theyre nu meta;. They are too progressive and creative for nu metal. theyre alternative and progressive metal

[@austintrousdale2397]

Please, don’t make me angry. You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry. 😜

[@pawepiotrowski2180]

Chino Moreno's vocals are one of the best things that has happened to music in recent years

[@chairsmissing]

You haven't skipped a single beat on WP's backstory. From a longtime Deftones fan, thanks for spreading the good word on this phenomenal ever-modern band.

[@Li_Tobler]

Exactly! I was so happy to see that this channel (notable for the top-notch production and complex, deep research) acknowledged my all-time favorite band and was kind and awesome enough to make a video on them! :) I haven't enjoyed a youtube vid that much in a veeery long time 🤍

[@MatthewJohnHayden]

I couldn't agree more with your "ever-modern" description. As decades slide by Deftones keep releasing albums that feel fresh overall. I thought bits of Diamond Eyes got a bit recycling-ish, but I felt no such vibes on Koi No Yokan, Gore or Ohms, in fact Gore and Ohms really feel to me like they explore wholly new terrains, separate from all the records before and separate even from each other.

[@chairsmissing]

@@MatthewJohnHayden I gotta be honest, Ohms to me feels like a regression especially when compared to Gore. I really wanted them to build on the groundwork they laid on with Gore, yet they went back-to-basics heavy with Ohms which I found pretty uninteresting. Though I like the album just fine, it's my least favorite Deftones one.

[@koreyseeba3835]

I will never forget getting "White Pony" on its release day. Getting to the record store, seeing the display and holding it in my hand, handing over the cash and quickly driving home! I put the headphones on, cranked it up and laid there for hours just letting it repeat. To this day its still in my top three albums of all time. That album isnt just music its a fucking experience and a masterpiece at that. This band and that album have stood the test of the last 23yrs and they never dissapoint. While I like Limp Bizkit and P-Roach no doubt they wish they could write a album like this that will influence bands for decades to come.

[@Steelflight773]

I drove to the mall on my one hour lunch break to buy the CD back then. Awesome album still!

[@Duffington]

haven’t got a bad album in their discography. can’t wait for the new album later this month

[@juvedoo99]

I think Deftones are really smart in the regard that they have kept their band identity and overall sound pretty consistent and their experimentation has been just enough to keep people interested and not turn the fan base off. I thinks that's one of the reasons why they've been able to put out amazing albums for 20+ years and stay relevant.

[@Duffington]

K&M i agree. never been scared to experiment but always staying true to the “deftones” sound. i think you can even see that in their newest single, really excites me for the new album

[@sagddesign78]

Gore was terrible.

[@psykoupathic4225]

@@sagddesign78 naw bruh, it takes some listening to get used to it. I didnt like it either at first but it eventually grew on me. Lets be real though, the earlier albums for any band are always the best. Thats just the reality of music. But i still think Gore was a good album.

[@liammcnicholas918]

Pink Cellphone

[@asmodir_7932]

My dad tells me the best part about Deftones is that they have a song for whatever mood your in, and for every type of person, at least one song. I'm so glad my dad showed me Deftones.

[@BlueZirnitra]

Cool dad

[@gaminro9545]

Cool Dad

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

Just learned about Rolo Tomassi from this video, and that is some good stuff!

[@genexallybeardman]

Man its wierd seeing people you're subbed too show up in comments

[@fraggle200]

Same

[@thc_freebaser]

such a good band

[@miserirken]

Rolo Tomassi released the only album that i consider better than Daughters' You Won't Get What You Want in 2018. Time Will Die and Love Will Bury It is a piece of art.

[@MetalRocksMe.]

I saw rolo Tomassi live but I just couldn’t get into them.

[@krinque]

Hot take : Deftones deserved Nirvana hype

[@scouttec4814]

This ain’t even a hot take this is just the straight up truth

[@DcFreightTrain]

False as false comes from. Awful take, Deftones are build off of emotion, playing ability and contortion. Nirvana was straight away anger and emotion

[@krinque]

@@DcFreightTrain I just meant number and popularity wise

[@ZazaWizard420_]

​@@DcFreightTrain you're sure fun to be around aren't you

[@MikuYTOfficial]

​@@DcFreightTrainkind of the sme thing

[@100011101011]

They probably like the Smiths, but I can't really hear it. When it comes to melody Chino is so clearly influenced by Duran Duran and Sade.

[@DigitalBath306]

listen to "hum-youd prefer an astronaut" , thats the sound deftones kinda ripped off for white pony, even the white pony cover is a nod to that album knife party is little dipper just played faster no hate tho, deftones is my fav band ever

[@TheDominicProject]

consequently Deftones did a great cover of 'Please please Please let me get what i want'

[@shawnyewest3966]

They do great covers of " please let me get what I want" and " asleep"

[@rhino202]

No ordinary love cover as well

[@TheManWithNoName686]

There's a few lyrical nods to Smiths songs on White Pony.

[@asterginete3812]

White Pony and Around the Fur are just amazing albums. Deftones has this loud but calming feel in their sound. I’m not sure if I can describe it correctly, but I always play their music when I want to relax.

[@aaronmadrigal4626]

WHAT SCOTT WAS ON RX QUEEN THATS SOOOOO LEGENDARY

[@firzenmg]

lmao just found that out too

[@billrobertjoe]

hi daron

[@OnPointFirearms]

I had no idea.

[@Adamas_83]

Deftones will forever be their own category of music. One of the very few bands respected even by those who don't care for their sound. They've always been true to their own style, non-apologetically and it's the reason they have stood the test of time. Change is my favorite song on the album; very strong memories attached to that track.

[@Glaamdring]

"Digital Bath" is definitely the best track on the album imo. The Deftones were easily my favorite band from like 7th - 9th grade before I got into heavier metal and then eventually into other genres entirely. They were one of the first bands I ever saw live-along with Primus and Metallica (not at the same show, I just can't remember which band I saw first). I did end up meeting Chino at a restaurant around the corner from my apartment in Manhattan. He was a nice guy and introduced me to the guy he was sitting with-Deftones' new bassist as Chi had died a couple years prior.

[@99bimmer]

I agree

[@flavorytub]

as much as I love digital bath my favorite will always be Korea that one is just so fucking awesome literally I was in awe the first time I heard it

[@99bimmer]

I got to meet them in Portland, Maine back in 98 after a show at the State Theater. It was cold as shit so there were like 4 of us out there. They all autographed my Adrenaline CD, and were cool as fuck. I lost that CD when my car got towed. Also, Frank gave me a beer. 18 year old me thought that was wicked cool

[@bendulum]

Have to agree

[@tomfurstyfield]

The beat on Digital Bath is insane, sounds quite simple but it's not

[@sagan1976]

Korea! One of my favorite moments is after Chino says “Check the claws...” and Frank’s scratches are heard hovering the pounding drums, bass and guitars.

[@RobCamp-rmc_0]

Bruno Santos goddamn I have such a hard time choosing a favorite track, and you bring that up. And the menace in Chino’s delivery of “carve your niche”.

[@odralebazerimar9084]

Those scratches aren't coming from Frank. It's coming from Chino. He does it live sometimes

[@Zander_Schilling]

Korea is still one of the heaviest tracks I've listened to that doesn't fall into normal metal cliches

[@padawansound6423]

"Talent and cocaine." Wow, that was a short video.

[@mattnoonan6519]

😂😂😂😂

[@TReaperMusic]

Lol I need some coke then

[@arpitdas4263]

Don't forget Tony Hawk Pro Skater

[@dk.1dk77]

Maybe a lot of drugs but no talent

[@padawansound6423]

@@dk.1dk77 Spicy take there, bucko

[@shape816]

Digital Bath. Greatest drum sound ever on a rock record. Can’t wait to hear what they do with Terry Date back at the helm.

[@Jackalope40]

That Tama bell-brass snare is iconic. And it was a rental! The video about it is on KZbin.

[@dcrea9416]

Abe for sure has a style that is slick and cool. He is not a super technical player, but I love the feel he puts into their songs.

[@lawnshark025]

A couple other bands that influenced the album: Hum and Helmet. Knife Prty’s chord progression is very clearly inspired by Hum’s Little Dipper. Deftones took this chord progression and turned into something more fast paced and more rhythmically intricate. Chino has talked about how much You’d Prefer an Astronaut has influenced Deftones guitar tone. Helmet’s influence is seen in the lyrics to Korea, where the chorus lines “work your pitch” and “carve your niche” were originally in Helmet’s song Tic, off of Betty.

[@hunterdavis3003]

Have you heard pig destroyers cover of in the meantime? Love helmet

[@lawnshark025]

@@hunterdavis3003 I haven't, I'll check it out. If you haven't, check out Deftones cover of Sinatra

[@hunterdavis3003]

lawnshark025 too weird I’m literally listening to their covers now?!? The Cocteau twins and morrissey covers are so SICK! Sinatra’s up next!

[@andrefaria2921]

Quicksand too!

[@chairsmissing]

That zebra cover defo influenced WP's interpretation too.

[@brendanthebdog]

Korea, favorite song on the album. It was too heavy to be a mainstream single, but I'm still transfixed by it. White Pony is why I became a musician.

[@daviddutton9723]

I still remember listening to White Pony for the first time. I actually wasn't the hugest Deftones fan and most of the people in my town said that the album was terrible. I had an instant connection with it though, and listened to it over and over. I still listen to it a few times every year to this day

[@paulbladder2]

I still listen to it a few times every day after having found it a year ago

[@chikish]

That is pretty much the exact same experience I had with the band and with that album in particular. Funny how that works.

[@ArpeggioPegasusMusic]

Who the fuck thinks White Pony is terrible though

[@RobCamp-rmc_0]

Crøst Dærgön turbodopes with lousy taste, that’s who

[@520angling5]

@@ArpeggioPegasusMusic kids who were expecting Nu metal

[@kellye2013]

This is a MUST HAVE album for any collection worth a damn

[@thevoid99]

agreed. it still holds up and it is an undisputed classic. i prefer the first edition as it just felt right and it was already perfect.

[@FaithFallRepentGraceRepeat]

I miss the PacMan inspired White Pony game that was on the cd when you put it in your computer. 🤘🏾

[@TheJinjo75]

The Enhanced CDs of the 90's. I still have a few of them.

[@miserirken]

To this day there are people who bought that CD yet don't know this.

[@kyleolin3566]

I should boot that up. Been a few years!

[@dandel1985]

with the MIDI "my own summer" melody! lmao

[@vgsdomingo1]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5Obg5Sjn9mDoLc

[@szymondudzinski6661]

i read somewhere that deftones are "the radiohead of metal" and I never agreed more

[@doom-generation4109]

Ah, I've found my people. Still a mind-blowingly great album.

[@mattnoonan6519]

20 years and it is still in my consistent rotation of albums.

[@LK-yn9xv]

I graduated HS in ‘99 and Deftones were a main staple in my music diet. I’ve seen them in concert more than any other band… I’m glad they never went as mainstream as LB or LP. The fans they’ve gained in almost 30 years is a testament to their never-ending talent. 🥰❤️

[@discod]

I had all of their albums, and being from Sacramento myself, I felt kind of protective of them, if that makes sense. Knife Party was my fave from White Pony.

[@williambryantofficial]

Same!

[@boymeetstaco8733]

Knife party and Korea!

[@strategic_amber_reservoir]

They might not like having Back to School as the first track, but it provides a great thematic circle for the album. I felt like it made the last track and the whole album that much more mythic.

[@miahthorpatrick1013]

I agree. I don't get the hate for Back to School. While it is the band`s dated song, it was a much better attempt to be rap metal than their contemporaries.

[@Skungalunga]

Easy "Deftones ft. Maynard - Passenger"

[@emie1170]

mjk is a blad babe

[@kyleolin3566]

My favourite Deftones’ song.

[@netghosta]

i sometimes still get some chills when I listen to it... amazing vocal duo, big metal riffs, and abe's subtle but wicked drumming...

[@gisli12]

Also knife party

[@whatistau]

yeah, a masterpiece. it has somewhat strong Lynch - Kar wai vibes to it

[@kyysterr]

i’m deadass in tears, i had no clue that scott was in rx queen.

[@Ottophil]

I know he seemed like more of a street drug fan.

[@tangerinesrock90038]

Grew up in central California in the late 90s early 2000s Deftones was such a huge part of that they looked like us they talked like us and played music so original and with such feeling. White Pony is a true part of my youth.

[@iaraespinoza4228]

so beautiful, thank you for sharing this 💜

[@Zhoniin]

I'm not ashamed to admit that all this time I didn't know that James did vocals on Passenger. I legit thought that it was Chino imitating his voice.

[@Zander_Schilling]

@George Costanza saying that doesn't make you any smarter than he is.

[@k_a_y_l_e_e]

i have a 976-EVIL tattoo on my left forearm. i will never not love this band.

[@WILD__THINGS]

What is the tattoo? Just the song title?

[@blackspring3207]

Tasteful song choice. A very dreamy love song from diamond eyes.

[@dusthymn8187]

Nice! I have the white pony on my arm

[@yzwme586]

I always say if I ever get a tattoo my first one will be Deftones related. Fav band by far

[@chaimatchaluvv333]

You should check out the movie of the same name. Especially if you like campy 80’s horror cult movies !

[@lord-REDACTED-]

I can at any point in the day, in whatever mood I'm in, listen to deftones. Even to this day. I first really heard recognized them because a girl introduced me to the music. I had heard change before but never really sought out their band. I owe my love of deftones to Kristin. Where ever you are. I hope your happy and loved.

[@gemgh420]

this was one of the first 'heavy' albums I heard and I found Knife Party genuinely frightening. love it to this day.

[@semraacar8626]

i used to mostly listen to deathcore metal but deftones has such a heavy tune while having softer parts too it’s so good i don’t know if i can finds anyone with the same sound

[@jarackObiden]

The fact that there is a Kool Keith connection to this album makes me love it even more.

[@kidpresentable]

There's some Kool Keith lyrics Chino lifted in "Back To School" as well.

[@jarackObiden]

@@kidpresentable Nice

[@damionchrist]

I'll be the man, watch your backpack pens and pencils

[@putridkorpse4197]

I heard tha music of Deftones in prison in tha early 2000s, I loved it.

[@yashchenko999]

I love this album so much, it lowkey shaped my taste in music. My favourite track on it is RX Queen, it manages to somehow be both very ugly and beautiful at the same time.

[@phf-official]

100000000%

[@tylerkeller8869]

Calling Deftones "Nu-Metal" is like calling Pixies "grunge" or calling GnR "hair metal".

[@3358records]

It seems like their label, Maverick, were trying too hard to have influence on many of their bands at the time. Maverick were Muse's American label at that time, and tried to do the same to Muse for their album Origin of Symmetry and in particular the track Plug In Baby, telling them to re-record the track without falsetto and tone down the record as a whole. Maverick did not consider Bellamy's vocals radio-friendly. The band refused and left Maverick; consequently the album was not released in the US until September 2005 instead of 2001 when it saw release everywhere else. The album peaked at number 3 in the UK, with Plug In Baby reaching number 11 in the charts and becoming a fan favorite worldwide.

[@3358records]

Also, Muse are huge Deftones fans. They play the riffs from Headup, My Own Summer, and Bored during shows sometimes.

[@Esrom_music]

Great detail

[@liammcnicholas918]

Darby Sagala Matt will sometimes play a Rage riff during the intro to Hysteria live and will close the song out with Back In Black

[@Gabe511]

I couldn’t even find their first two albums in stores until after Absolution dropped

[@3358records]

@@Gabe511 Same, didn't discover them till Absolution and even after that couldn't find the other albums anyplace. Had to buy Showbiz on Ebay and found an import copy of Origin at Virgin Megastore during a trip to Chicago.

[@junksatellite]

passenger is still one of my most favorite songs to exist. i've listened to it, easily, thousands of times and i'm still not sick of it. still not sick of ANYTHING by deftones. they're timeless.

[@psykoupathic4225]

I still remember how i even discovered Deftones, it was a little over a year ago and i was on my way to the library to go do homework after class, and on the way there i was listening to Slipknot's WANYK album considering it had recently come out. I had just finished the last song on the album when i got on the elevator and the randomizer on spotify threw me My Own Summer. After that day i got so into their music that i cant even go a week without listening to any of their albums. Their music just entangles what the 90s were perfectly and how teenagers were like back then. Im only 21 so i couldnt enjoy the 90s how many other people did. But their music, especially the Around the Fur album just gives me that nostalgic feel like if i was actually a teenager during the 90s. Its hard to explain. But anyways, its safe to say that im extremely excited for their new album. And for my White Pony IPA's to come in the mail 🤝

[@angeljimenez-hc4eu]

Lol I relate to you so much. That’s actually how I am getting into alot of new bands, through Spotify. I was born in 99’ so didn’t experience the 90’s either sadly.

[@josefk.122]

I was a teen in the 90’s and this album probably more than any other captures that time entirely

[@AlextheBant]

Deftones has my eternal respect. They were a huge influence on me musically. And i love the philosophy they had in choosing longevity and creative integrity over instant fame and sales.

[@goonymiami]

Although "Be quiet and drive" is my favorite song, I did not like "Around the fur" very much as a whole. White Pony is indeed something that grows on you, that you appreciate more after each play, like Tool or Pink Floyd.

[@marquitos7400]

Unpopular Opinion:Around The Fur is their least good album.

[@520angling5]

@@marquitos7400 wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

[@Zander_Schilling]

@@marquitos7400 I kind of agree, though personally, and don't hate me for saying this, I haven't liked the new album as much either. Ceremony is good, but I just don't match with the music as much on this one.

[@marquitos7400]

@@Zander_Schilling After 9 months my opinion didnt change hahaha. I rlly like more Adrenaline and Saturday Night Wrist than Around The Fur. And I respect your opinion, I like Around The Fur, there are some great songs in it like My Own Summer,Rickets,Be Quiet and Drive,Lotion and MX, but I think its the worst record by them, but is still a good record. Deftones is awesome. EDIT: I rlly liked Ohms btw

[@Zander_Schilling]

@@marquitos7400 I personally like White Pony and Diamond Eyes the best, and I like Ohms and Around the Fur the least, though Be Quiet and Drive and My Own Summer are two of my favorite songs in general.

[@JosephH206]

Queen of the Damned bathtube scene with Change in background sound, oh man, its simply beautiful and powerful !

[@miahthorpatrick1013]

That's a pretty cool reference point for Change! Even though Queen of the Damned had more to do with KoRn than Deftones....

[@surj138]

I'll never forget the first time I saw Deftones in concert. It was Halloween night of 2000 and they were touring for White Pony, and he came out on stage wearing a Jheri curl wig 🤣🤣 At one point between songs, Chino was talking to the crowd and someone yelled "Give me your ring!" He answered, "My ring? Fred Durst gave me this ring". Then he said, "Fuck it", slipped it off his finger and tossed it into the crowd. I've lost count how many times I've seen them since... must be 8 or 9 times, they're my hands-down favorite. Even got to meet and shake Chino's hand once when I ended up standing right behind him in the ticket line for a Team Sleep show. I didn't expect him to be so tall.. I'm 5'11" and he dwarfed me lol

[@junkyardwillie8320]

What? Really? I’ve always heard people say he was more like 5 9/10. Interesting. I never really pictured him as a taller guy either

[@junkyardwillie8320]

Ah. Maybe they got 5 9 from a google search, but other pictures make it look like 6 foot, maybe 6 1. Dumb google

[@surj138]

@@junkyardwillie8320 yeah that's what I figured for years, too... 5'9" or so. I remember watching Deftones play "Be Quiet and Drive" live on Late Night with Conan O'Brien and Chino looked small next to him, but later learned that Conan is actually 6'4", so I guess that's why he looked so short in comparison. But yeah, Chino stood a good couple inches over me when I met him. I really didn't think it was him at first because of how tall he was.

[@arjunnijhawan7231]

What were Team Sleep like live? Just heard their album for the first time in a while.

[@surj138]

@@arjunnijhawan7231 it was actually a really good show. Sound engineering was really good and clear, and it was in a much smaller venue than you'd see Deftones play in... the place probably had a 300 person capacity, tops.

[@pixelcultmedia4252]

I had to cut your video short. "Their fanbase" got it immediately. It was the nu-metal swarm that followed Around the Fur that was confused by White Pony.

[@dcrea9416]

Yeah, they started playing Change a week or two on the radio before the actual release of White Pony. I felt an instant gravitation towards it and bought the record right when it came out and devoured it.

[@FlamingGojira24]

Passenger has to be my favorite track.

[@Brandon84J]

I learned how to skateboard while listening to Around the Fur, so I love the heaviness of that album, there's a lot of memories in that one, but I immediately loved White Pony because I love melodic music. WP is melodic, and heavy, and to this day, because Tool and APC are my favorite bands, I absolutely loved Passenger. Digital Bath is the second best record on that album, and I'm so glad I got to live through those years as a teenager. I'm still... to this day, in love with White Pony

[@shockomega]

Check out Porcupine Tree, they have a great melodic edge as well.

[@Brandon84J]

@@shockomega Oh yeah, absolutely. I love Porcupine Tree. I forget about them from time to time, but I love everything I've heard from them

[@julesvox]

Nobody: This video: Chino Mah-ree-nou

[@emie1170]

Chino Marino 🌊

[@overdigitize]

Χύνω Μαρίνο

[@miserirken]

CHINO MARINO He's a sailor now.

[@morgoth2425]

He's gonna be annexed by the chinese communist party now 😂

[@theclassicmanila-style8435]

still waiting for a faith no more/ mr bungle video on how they become instrumental to majority of the bands in 90s and even in the early 2000s

[@_megwaters]

I remember the first time I was introduced to White Pony, I was seeing a guy who was already in an abusive relationship a week before my eighteenth birthday and told me to listen to the album whilst we were opening up to each other at 11pm, for the whole of pink maggit I felt paralysed and couldn’t move as I just felt both his and my own emotions rush over me. Even though nothing came of this relationship, he’s still with his abuser sadly and we no longer talk to each other despite being in the same friendship group and often being in social situations together, every time I hear Pink Maggit and Knife Prty my mind still wonders to him as my body freezes up.

[@ArpeggioPegasusMusic]

You should try to reach out to him again. Honestly.

[@_megwaters]

Crøst Dærgön There was a point a few weeks ago where I saw him every day but we must have only spoken once or twice alone when not with our mutual friendship group. He seems to have taken lockdown pretty hard and although things with the girlfriend seem okay on the surface our friends have told me things have became even more manipulative.

[@emie1170]

Megan seems to me that this abusive relationship is completely on his hands. No one can really do anything about it. I wish you the best and may music ease the way.

[@rok0sbasili5k]

So this is the back story of Back to School (mini maggit) how Moreno prove he can easily make pseudo type LBiz song on a wiff is just totally impressive!

[@imalright2837]

Speaking of QOTSA.... more videos on them please!

[@ryanduty4237]

Always been a fan of passenger and digital bath. This is easily their best album ever even though they still put out good music and to this day.

[@apenvose]

Being a Tool fan, the song passenger really got be into Deftones. Great video!

[@anthoooo]

Holy shit....i must thank you for introducing me to NOTHING. had never heard of them but i am blown away.

[@genexallybeardman]

So whens the At the Drive-In essay dropping?

[@liammcnicholas918]

At the Drive-In are one of the most complex hardcore bands out there. Plus he should also explore the Mars Volta, a side project of the band.

[@yashchenko999]

I'm waiting for Unwound coverage

[@jakehyrule7260]

@@liammcnicholas918 not a side project, THE side project.

[@liammcnicholas918]

jake carpenter Omar has a lot of solo studio albums

[@jakehyrule7260]

@@liammcnicholas918 yeah I know that, haha I just meant like the Mars volta was more than just a side project. Deloused is one of the greatest progressive rock albums of all time imo. All good though i was just poking a bit of fun.

[@joshhale9355]

Knife Party was the first Deftones song I ever heard. It was love at first listen. White Pony is legitimately one of the best and most complete-package albums in modern history. They really made something ahead of its time.

[@ShodansServer]

THANK YOU!!! SO MUCH!!! FOR COVERING THIS!!! One of my favorite albums from one of my favorite bands, I feel like Deftones gets written off with a lot of the nu-metal from the early 2000s but they are so, so different. Thanks for doing them justice!!!

[@rqneo5361]

To be fair deftones were most definitely nu metal on their first two records. Headup is one of the most nu metal sounding track ever written

[@requiem5179]

Out of every band I love in any genre Deftones are the most essential. They are still my personal favorite. The only band I can think of from the 90s that got better with time. I'd argue the next 3 albums after White Pony are their most important.

[@mattpilkington2456]

Korea is easily my favorite track on White Pony, and it’s still one of my favorite albums of all time. I think only Diamond Eyes has come close to replicating it

[@inphanta]

You knocked it out of the park with this one. I actually prefer ‘Around the Fur’ overall and consider it an all time favourite, but ‘White Pony’ is an excellent record as well.

[@monkreeder]

This is an album that I can listen to from beginning to end with no skips. It’s so excellent. Feiticeira and Korea tie for favorite.

[@ThisIsJessPaul]

SO excited for this: one of my favorite bands covered by one of my favorite music essayists

[@mirrortoremind]

The grey cover is the true version of the album, and Pink Magit is the only real version of Back To School. That’s the version I bought from the store on June 20, 2000. I do however wish “The Boy’s Republic” was included on the album proper though.

[@hachimitsuboi]

This video was such a delightful way to start my 3-day weekend. Sipping coffee in bed and listening to the best music historian/essay channel on KZbin. Aloha Also: Rx Queen is my favorite song on White Pony.

[@ericportillo8277]

Wow, didn't know it had a drug reference to the name in high school. Just thought it was a nice title and artsy aesthetic theme for an album.

[@Sorae90]

One of the most consistent bands out there. So psyched for Ohms!

[@DukesMusic84]

Didn't realize this record would be so influential all these years later. Kind of forgot them after high school, but yeah Deftones rocked.

[@Mr.Plant1994]

Diamond Eyes might be my favorite album by them, but I truly do appreciate how good White Pony truly is.

[@loathy4528]

Fun fact: the girl who sings on "Knife Prty" made a movie called "The Bunny Game". No spoiling anything but it is genuinely the most Disturbing thing I've ever seen.

[@Paranoid-loser]

Not so fun fact: that same girl had a freak accident where she slipped inside a restaurant and hit her head leaving her in a vegitative state

[@LonerDonor]

Help me that’s a sad fact

[@jon00769]

@@Paranoid-loser From what I remember reading about it: She sustained a traumatic brain injury and damage to her upper spine from a fall where she landed on her head. The lasting effects being chronic pain centered from the injury and difficulty with balance, mobility, and doing normal activities. She's permanently disabled for sure, but she's still active on her social media accounts, so I wouldn't say she's in a vegetative state.

[@germx1488]

Damn that is sad such vocal talent.

[@Paranoid-loser]

@@jon00769 well that's good to hear but that still fuckin sucks

[@Millerben76]

Talking about bands I sometimes say “this band is awesome they just need their White Pony”

[@joelmonteiro1419]

The best KZbin music channel covering one of my favorite albums of all time. I still can't believe this is happening.

[@Bloodyknukelzz]

Knife party and passenger are my personal favs but you can’t really go wrong with the whole thing

[@evanphillips570]

Good vid, would love to see you comment on how Kevin shields created an entirely new guitar sound and thus inspiring the whole shoegaze movement

[@knockda887]

Deftones have always been in a league of their own- & still relevant- I have some crazy stories rocking to these guys music- lol

[@Spermwhales93]

You didn't mention this in the video, but White Pony was also a huge influence on Charlie Simpson. Fightstar's debut album has influence from White Pony all over it. The birth, death and rebirth of Busted is actually a topic you should do if you haven't done it already. It's a really interesting story and there's plenty of interviews from all three of the members that talks about it, as well as stuff Charlie said during the original Fightstar run.

[@tguy8142]

Trash Theory, please continue! These retrospective-type videos are a piece of art! I watch like a child for new videos on this channel. Thanks!

[@BidensTaint]

Never thought of deftones as nu metal. My favorite heavy band hands down

[@soulburned6026]

They're alt metal. Only first album is nu metal.

[@veltmore1]

It definitely had that groovy, laid-back rhytmic style that Korn also had, for example.

[@BidensTaint]

@@veltmore1 True. Chino even rapped on a few tracks in the early days. Very happy they quickly started doing their own thing

[@thomashainz861]

White Pony has aged particularily well, as opposed to some other Nu-Metal albums from around that time

[@goqsan]

Definitely would love to see a documentary about Linkin Parks’ Hybrid Theory/Meteora era (most listened 2 albums in my teenage years) and something about Limp Bizkit and Korn :)

[@redeemedtide5010]

Hybrid Theory and Meteroa were my middle school lullabies. I completely relate

[@AprilLaRae]

Digital Bath is so mesmerizing, the whole album is my favorite!

[@thatsnodildo1974]

Nothing gets me more nostalgic than be quiet and drive (far away) open rift.

[@DaremoTen]

I'd heard of the Deftones before, but never heard their music, being mostly pretty averse to 'nu metal'. What you played here, about half the songs sounded interesting, and of course you used my 'hunt' words, shoegaze and trip-hop. I might have to check this band out.

[@igorilic5099]

Drive, change, knife party, digital bath, youve seen the butcher, cherry waves, phantom bride.. there are heavier stuff but these are some of my favourites, check em

[@johnholmeswebb8162]

The Deftones only slightly fit into my metal on their first album. They never belonged there, their genre of music is "Deftones". They're a band that doesn't sound like anybody else, and even before the vocals come in, you know it's them. Based on your post, you should only listen to their albums from "White Pony" on.

[@ArpeggioPegasusMusic]

Deftones is very different from the usual nu-metal you'd find back in the late 90s.

[@kchannel9464]

The Deftones are the greatest band of all time and space

[@Syklonus]

They definitely have Nu-Metal elements in them, but to me they were always more kind of proto-shoegaze. White Pony was interesting both from a musical and a production standpoint.

[@Will-wx8kn]

That nod to Nothing at the end came out of nowhere. Such a great band.

[@stevesorrell9835]

That album, still holds up as a masterpiece. It moves me today, just as it did in 2000. Doesn't get much better than that.

[@provethioaltum3276]

Facts

[@laborawashere]

Great video, loved this album ever since release. I do recall friends losing favor of the band for not being as "hard" as previous records but me being a big fan of shoegaze loved it. Had a very dark, distant feeling my favorites had to be Passenger or Pink Maggit.

[@josephguillermo3007]

I loved that album all the way through (without back to school), I remember buying it at Sam Goody, coming home and just had in my cd player, I had my headphones on and I just kept listening to it. This album has so much inspiration on newer bands and people want to just push this one to the side when it came out, the album to me is a masterpiece

[@whatistau]

White Pony was the best thing that happened to me in my youth sonically. It gently grasped into a whole all my perceived aesthetics of that time.

[@ricardasjuskevicius6331]

Soundtrack to my youth. Thanks for amazing musical journalism. Top notch!

[@ben-ty9jo]

Let me tell you, Change and Pink Maggit blew my fucking MIND when I was an angsty 16 year old with relationship problems