Dying For Everest | Full Documentary | Beyond Documentary

On 15 May 2006 double amputee Mark Ingliss reached the summit and left in a controversy involving the death of an incapacitated climber.
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[@buhere]

Who else is here after Kenyans lost their own on his quest to break records?

[@johnkennedy6300]

Me

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Me

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Me here

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Me here

[@dorcaskimutaiorginal]

Kenyans kama mnafollow gonga like

[@richaf6463]

Kenyans are shameless.

[@rosewangechi5074]

I'm here

[@cathymwyter]

My Kenyan people i know we are here after the death of Kirui, gonga likes tukisonga

[@user-so3qc5fj3p]

🇰🇪🇰🇪So kenya son kenya hero will be part of Mt Everest forever 🇰🇪

[@dorothyonyango6575]

🇰🇪 🇰🇪 🇰🇪 😢

[@Itamey02]

Tuko

[@peterkamande5917]

Tuko

[@felixmakume5856]

I don't understand why cany they help that one who was still alive

[@ekwomcaro]

Kenyans we are here to understand the death of our own Cheruiyot Kirui, Rest in Peace Legend , you died doing what you loved most.

[@freen773]

Unbelievable how a double amputee was criticised for not carrying someone down everest

[@teijaflink2226]

Yeah feels so cruel and not okay that he got the most critique.

[@lucylocket5774]

I would critique everyone of them that walked past that dying man. I don’t understand how you could carry on and celebrate on the summit after seeing that. No, they couldn’t save him, but I would have spent a few moments with a dying man and then gone back down, leave my oxygen with him. I just couldn’t.

[@gianniness]

@@lucylocket5774 If you stop moving, you risk to freeze. Helping someone in the death zone is simply not possible. Your body is so deprived from oxygen that you are barely functioning.

[@hansolo631]

@@lucylocket5774 So you would have made an empty gesture then committed suicide to buy him another half hour. That's very smart.

[@kathrynemason1673]

@@lucylocket5774 I imagine you don't have much experience of operating at this altitude. There are a number of documentaries about the effects with regard to cognition when a person is simply stationary at this altitude, let alone indulging in physical activity. Having said that, the idea that you can expect a climber to manoeuvre a dying man down everest from this height is unreasonable even if they had full mental capacity. The physical effort would probably result in 2 deaths, not 1. Giving a dying man your oxygen at this altitude would also pose very serious risks to you. Climbing alone is a choice and has to be respected, risks in this environment are taken voluntarily and no one has a duty to risk their own life to save another another who has chosen this path.

[@rubytwoshoes1032]

David sharps mother said "Your responsibility is to save yourself - not to try to save anybody else." The sherpa who carried Ingles down is a machine and a legend, the real climbers for me. Without them it wouldn't be everest, bodies wouldn't be recovered, routes made, ropes replaced. Rubbish cleared.

[@boojay111]

it sickens me when you hear some climbers treating the sherpas as inferior people who are there to just carry their stuff, not all but the arrogance in some is why I loath and detest some mountain climbers putting their own glory above anyone else and leaving the mountain like a rubbish tip, it is an utter disgrace and morally vile.

[@mikatu]

@@boojay111 all of that arrogance would disappear if they had to climb without oxygen. that is the real climb. I only consider that someone climbed the Everest if they did it without O2, everybody else is just a tourist! They are hikers, not climbers!!

[@brianbru]

@@mikatu Have you climbed Everest without oxygen?

[@TheAcidFairy1998]

@@mikatu Your logic is flawed. People who climb Everest are not Tourists. They have taken years of training, experience and adaptability to even then think about climbing Everest. To say they are Tourists because they are trying to minimise the risk of death and irreversible brain damage is so stupid. Any sane human in any situation will try and minimise risk when possible.

[@TheHenk101]

​@sophiewhitney2347 So true except for that last part, people are addicted to risk lol. Especially the thrill seeker types. ✌️

[@elizabethelizah1238]

Im here because our own kenyan ....i have been seen ads on my links up so i has to come to you tube Like my comment fellow Kenyans🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪

[@phillipproussier3723]

The name *Everest* ironically speaks for itself. If you choose to rest on top of Everest, you risk resting there forever. Beautiful and dangerous mountain.

[@missFrill]

but the guy was not dead ... he was abandoned by a climber who, at the end, was saved by a crew who did not abandon him! A real coward.

[@phillipproussier3723]

@@missFrill I know. That's not the point I made.

[@A5xxxxx]

​@@missFrillyou do understand that you're not functioning very well at that altitude, you can barely save yourself at certain points. Let alone attempt to save someone else..

[@ThePbag]

I don't understand how there is any debate on this topic. You choose to try to summit, you know you risk death or injury. You also know that other people cannot recover or rescue you without putting themselves at risk. It couldn't be any clearer. Stop villainizing other climbers for the mistakes of those who died.

[@TonyMontana-vo8nd]

you choose to try to summit doesn't mean you have to flush your human values down the toilet mate.

[@Peace-tk3gr]

@@TonyMontana-vo8nd Correct!

[@jeefjeeb7371]

Couldn’t have said it any better.. and every climber would agree with this believe me !

[@user-zg2cz4cv6o]

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[@AK-ContentCreatIon]

look @14 summits nothing is impossible... he stopped his attempt and saved others. @Nirmal Purja Thanks.... but stop having opinions about anything othe than yourself and your own achievments.... !

[@jefftone]

Kenyans we are here after Kiruis death...

[@lauraibaraza4251]

Yes following too

[@OutletTV.]

yes

[@bettyambogo85]

Me too I started following

[@nomismoh9667]

Same

[@carloswachiuri3214]

it's 25th may 2024...a few days after Kenya lost a man on Mt everest. like this comment for our generations to come...1000000000 likes

[@winniewamunyu4346]

It's sad mahn💔 he died doing what he loved best!he is at peace up there

[@mosesotieno4523]

Reason why am here too. May he rest well up there

[@hrshpegu7560]

The very fact that sherpas put all those ropes that the climbers use to summit and even carrying all their luggage makes them superhuman in all regards shout out to them ❤❤

[@Jake-bt3fc]

They're the ones who take money from people they know cant climb and then march them to their deaths, lol. If they had any morals they would only take experienced climbers who can carry their own gear and tie their own ropes.

[@robertmitchell6080]

Thats y its a shame the money these climbers pay for a permit to attempt any climb, very little of it goes towards a decent salary for the Sherpas but to the Nepalese Royal Family who do nothing for that mtn yet its the very reason why tourists go to that nation.

[@omnipotentfaces1514]

@@Jake-bt3fcthe Sherpas arnt paid a living wage and don’t run the companies who accept these inexperienced climbers. It’s actually a huge problem because the Sherpas are forced to do this risky climb as it’s their only income and have to feed their families, if a Sherpa dies their family doesn’t even get enough compensation to survive.

[@rewabhandari]

@@robertmitchell6080 Nepal is a republic country and monarchy here has ended in 2008 AD. We locals believe that the main blame for the careless crowd in Sagarmatha goes to the leaders of our nation who are mostly corrupt. There is huge issue of political instability here where our PM gets changed almost 3 times in 2 years and they give very few care and effort to do something for the mountains as all they care about is securing their seats in Parliament. The phrase "that nation" is very rude to address our country though. Noone will want to hear their country being disrespected by people who have only online knowledge of it.

[@baldchook]

​@@Jake-bt3fcsuch ignorance

[@cynthiag.1306]

I feel so sad for all who have died on that mountain. especially my fellow Kenyan.May his soul rest in peace.

[@Kakwasi]

They wanted to come back alive but knew they might not. They choose it

[@HezOmanjo]

I came here too after Cheruiyot's death. Quite sad

[@makelisu]

Like Rob Hall said: "At that altitude, you might as well be on the moon" RIP Rob, Scott and all those who rest forever there.

[@smallies7154]

No one can actually get to the moon and survive

[@CaptainSpicard]

@@smallies7154 Stop believing every conspiracy video you watch

[@bongit4204]

.............. Stop telling people what they should or shouldn't believe... A conspiracy is only a theory until it's proven to be true... Until then, stfu

[@jipangoo]

Hey ... Hey!

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[@miquelbuckinx4074]

Most deaths on the north side of Everest seem to occur, because climbers ignore safety standards, blinded by ambition. Sharp ignored safe turn around time. Russel Brice his expeditions are very safe. That same day he ordered two of his clients to descend before reaching the summit, because they risked passing turn-around time and would probably have died like Sharp. I think they could not have saved Sharp in this extreme cold, and they tried in vain when the sun was up. No controversy for me. Sharp gambled with his life and killed himself due to bad judgement and taking high risk.

[@anjou6497]

I feel very sad to agree. ⚘️

[@DeepakTiwari-wx5ee]

We are all animals and it is the survival of the fittest. That is the precise reason why animals work in group or in pair so that they recieve help from one another in the time of need but if any of us decide to walk alone, he or she must be ready to pay the price whatever it may be.

[@fiona-lyons]

I think it was poor form for Edmund Hillary to criticise another climber's life and death decision. It was an impossible rescue for 20 sherpas - let alone a double amputee with a broken oxygen valve. If he had questioned the scruples of the travel agency that would have been nearer the mark.

[@zakimtshali8105]

Very insightful documentary, ultimately every climber on Everest is responsible for their decision to be there

[@PetraKann]

What do you mean?

[@nifty1940]

While that may be true, I wonder if their loved ones would want them to even consider they need to make a life-threatening decision; a decision that effects them ( loved ones) for the rest of their lives, if that personal decision is fatal?

[@Truth1561]

Totally agree. I'm very uncomfortable that many undertaking these incredibly risky pursuits expect others to risk their own lives to try to rescue them if things go wrong . So many Sherpas sadly lose their lives attempting rescue. Anyone attempting such risky pursuits should be forced to take out insurance to cover the cost of rescue as well. These guys are there by choice and fully know and understand the risks.

[@talkinghead3169]

Let's be honest here, sitting in the comfort and safety of your own home, saying what YOU would do at nearly 30,000ft if you came across a dying climber, just doesn't match reality! So, what would/could you do to change this man's reality? You gonna just throw him across your shoulders and run down the mountain? Like I say, very easy to talk!

[@karencorban607]

@@PetraKann meaning that they are responsible for any less than ideal outcome

[@wills2552]

That was an excellent film, no idea how a double amputee is expected to rescue a man near death at 27,890 feet and was blamed for not trying, it's crazy as he was in no position to do so.

[@vanessaruiz4705]

yeah even if he wasnt an amputee I highly doubt he'd be able to help at all.

[@semoneg2826]

This kind of expectation is from people sitting in the comfort zone of their home..

[@vm6824]

I agree no one should help anyone up there - its their own choice to be there and they know the risks. However, why are people harping on the fact that the poor 'double amputee' didn't help. He wasn't very handicapped if he was climbing Everest ffs. He was as able bodied as everyone else there. He doesn't get a pass because of that. Remember, Everest is how he lost his legs in the first place. I have zero pity.

[@karesage2889]

But he was with a team to help him get there I don't think the criticism is directed at him alone

[@sarabengtsson5741]

​​@@vm6824 Nope. He lost them when he was stuck at Mount Cook for 13 days.

[@robink620]

I’ve heard of several climbers who actually ascended to recover a body and ended up dying in the process, no one was able to help Francys Arsentiev even though many people tried including her husband. It’s the possibility you accept when you apply for your climbing permit.

[@AavegSheth]

True Absolutely

[@philcliffe6909]

Some people will run into a burning building to save others they don't know. There can be no justification for leaving someone to die on a mountain other than greed.

[@halfbloodprincess989]

It is possible, they just didn't want to risk their summit attempt. Sharp could have been able to help himself if he was given oxygen the minute he was first spotted. But nobody did, because they wanted to summit.

[@princesadelaos]

@@philcliffe6909 a burning building is an accident, climbing everest is a decision

[@philcliffe6909]

@@princesadelaos You clearly didn't think before posting. A falling rock is an accident, a burning building could be arson. The choice of whether to save someone in a burning building or on a mountain is a decision. Thank god you did not like your own comment.

[@urshurakdieohnekanal9291]

Excellent documentary! Everyone who decides to climb Mt. Everest does it on their own peril. Above a certain altitude one simply cannot expect to be rescued when it puts the rescuer in danger of death. How someone would expect Mark Ingliss - in his condition - to save a nearly dead man, when at least 25 other able-bodied people didn't do anything, that's beyond me.

[@semoneg2826]

Those people on ground level sitting behind computers think that they have rights to pass judgement without facing the reality of what's its like to be on Everest

[@albertawheat6832]

Everest Rescue : 2017 (at 28000 feet Abdul Jabbar Bhatti and Sange Sherpa saved)

[@mikatu]

I am not defending anyone, but the people were saying he didn't try to help, not that he was expected to carry someone out of the mountain, that is nearly impossible. But they have the responsability to try and help anyone in trouble. Getting to the top is a secundary objective if someone is in trouble and they can help.

[@semoneg2826]

@@mikatu this is the mistake we are making at that hight of the mountain it is no one responsible to help you...however someone can help out of the goodness of their heart.....

[@dana102083]

​@@mikatu death was imminent.. I lost respect for Hillary because of what he said. If Sharpe wasnt moving the chances of survival are slim. He took a risk going alone without radio. The only think they could have done was stay with the dying which its the death zone..no one does anything thats not necessary. High altitude sickness and hypoxia..I cant blame amy of the 30 plus people and Engels didn't deserve it. Even if the radio transmission went thru, the likelihood is low of survival. He died doing what he loved likely in hypothermic bloss. RIP David Sharpe

[@vickiewafula3630]

Kwa wale tumependa hii kitu,gusa like😂

[@zeezooxe]

This took place inside death zone where it’s a struggle to keep yourself alive, let alone expect a double amputee who is trying to stay alive trying to save another who is dying. It’s dangerous to climb alone, with no oxygen, radio or guide. If someone thought that they had enough strength to save someone without dying, many would have

[@jerome8670]

Crazy how even Hilary can cast shadow over the situation ! There have been guides who have left able people to survive let alone people walking past some one who looks as good as dead 🥺 We should be so grateful we are able to do these expeditions and the set up is amazing Sherpas, base camp etc for me if you’ve got a dieing person all efforts should be put in to help them from all teams ! But summit fever is real and add the expense and prep to the one shot you may have then it all becomes hazey 😵‍💫 Cudos to any climbers

[@JavierBonillaC]

@Janitor Queen it was allowed. Or do you mean "it shouldn't"?

[@erol4130]

Maybe the team could have called through and said about sharp at least! 9 hours later they walked past and he was still alive! That team shouldn’t have been there

[@elainelewis5803]

I’m proud when I do 500 steps. This is definitely not for me.Sad for the ones who died, but they knew the risks.

[@albertawheat6832]

Everest Rescue : 2017 (at 28000 feet Abdul Jabbar Bhatti and Sange Sherpa saved)

[@Simplyquana_ea]

Am here after our own Kenyan.,Cheruiyot Kirui passed on 48 meters to reach the summit without supplementary Oxygen ...it’s indeed life threatening ordeal hiking to the top of Everest....Rip 😢

[@rajadeepak41]

It's unimaginable how in the 40+ summit attempters that day, the amputee who had to be carried back to camp 4 was the one who was blamed 🙄

[@Secretname951]

Possibly because he was the one with the highest profile.

[@rajadeepak41]

@Tom Wright could be, but still, some amount of common sense needs to be applied, especially when he was incessantly blamed by so-called knowledgable people

[@AdBENture]

Exactly~ and quite disappointing coming from climbers who actually knows the situation up there

[@GusMac-kv7zi]

There you have it, David was a nobody. Remember he was rescued from two mountains, I think that was Hillary's point not that he himself should have done something but having a high profile team something could have been done even if only having the team leader send someone with 02.@@Secretname951

[@markjennings2605]

The man who was freezing to death actually did something very selfish. He chose to climb alone,at the wrong time of day and risk his life. Putting his ambition to summit before the well being of family and friends and of all the other climbers on the mountain.

[@richardwait1206]

I actually don’t think David would have expected any climber to risk their life to rescue him. It is a real shame that so much criticism has been levelled at him when he is not around to speak for himself. It was however disturbing to find out that he was still alive when those climbers having reached their goal found him on their decent. Which assuming they had communication abilities they didn’t at least call for help for David.

[@menzimngadi6793]

Sadly, the excuses for inhumane behavior always take this fundamental form. You should not need a reason to save a life if you have the opportunity.

[@strawberryfox8819]

@@menzimngadi6793 But this isn't just "saving a life", it's a huge risk and not even professionals like the Sherpas can rescue people at such altitudes most of the time. Everest is a death trap and expecting people to bring down a doomed man at the high risk of more people dying in that process is stupid.

[@bharathg9010]

The toughest part of mountaineering is abandoning someone in the middle of nowhere. It is not the blame on the other climbers, It's the mountain that forces you to take such a hard decision. Mountaineering is not for everybody. Wonderful documentary. The music is amazing.

[@annamariaerdelyi7656]

You are wrong. Only man can make a wrong decision.

[@CK-lt6jl]

The mountain forces you to make a decision? Way to shift the blame of making utterly stupid decisions.

[@mathiasbartl903]

The mountain does not force you to fo anything it simply exists.

[@Mila_Brearey]

Succumbing (unknowingly) to high altitude sickness is what leads to making the wrong decisions!

[@victorraradza2518]

Rip Kenya brother. With love from Zimbabwe

[@rada9748]

Deeply, deeply sad. No one wants to die alone. Even on a regular hike, you are told not to go alone. “Cowboy“ seems very emotionally affected by it, more so than the others.

[@TheVanillatech]

Bit Brokebck Mountain vibe from that "cowboy", if you ask me.

[@GermanGreetings]

No one is to blame by people, who were not up there. Thank you for this honest film.

[@Mossyz.]

:)

[@kidMclean]

How on God's green earth does a bunch of media vultures think they can comment on or blame mountaineers on a subject that they know nothing about. Mainstream media should look at themselves for spreading unfair blame. Total respect for these guys.

[@simonlivsey7425]

The climbers could have tried to save the bloke or reach the summit, they chose the summit!

[@emdove]

​@@simonlivsey7425 they could've tried and failed to save him, or tried and succeeded in reaching the summit, is the correct sentence.

[@MagpieTimes]

Sitting on my cozy couch with my cat purring beside me, I'll never understand the kind of masochism that makes people put themselves thru such life threatening ordeals for jollies.

[@TheJohnbjunior]

I agree, don't understand the attraction at all! However, I ride motorcycles, every sport has its risks, some more than others

[@a.avcier8277]

​@@phillipproussier3723😂😂😂 fantastic humour

[@africanbrowny]

​@@phillipproussier3723😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@benreed3939]

Some people live life and some sit on the couch in a box.enjoy!

[@florasoft5016]

@@benreed3939 I've always been wondering what it might feel like to live in such a small world where there's only black and white. I dare say you are the one in the box.

[@RK-ln6kg]

Climbing everest is not easy. Every climber knows they will pay the ultimate price when things go wrong. Every climber must take responsibility for themselves.

[@fumoabel3416]

After kiruis death Kenyans have flocked on this channel.🎉rip kirui

[@kyalomut]

He climbed without oxygen... He is a hero.

[@lanamuir9352]

Would I die for my country. Probably not. Would I die for someone that I loved very much. Very, very unlikely. Would I die for Mt. Everest? Hell no. I am in my cozy warm bed watching this documentary and it's getting harder to watch with each passing minute. Over 8,000 people have climbed Everest and I wonder what kind of an ego a person must possess to be yet another person to summit Mt. Everest. Standing on the roof of my house is thrilling enough, let alone the tallest mountain on earth.

[@fiphuket2010]

The only thing I would die for is my child 💯%

[@joankipsang8897]

Watching from 🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪

[@jclemme1]

David Sharp made every mistake in the book, and was practically on a suicide mission. And those, who blame other people for his demise, have absolutely no clue about high altitude rescue missions. End of story!

[@Andrewf5251]

yes exactly . david was a grown up man who knew the risks and made every mistake he could . why would anyone put their own life on the line for a man like that ? these ppl think that someone should carry him on their back from 8k+ height ? what a dumb thing to think about .

[@BiTe-Me]

well said

[@kushalrijal9453]

@@Andrewf5251 what if he was your dad or son??

[@magicmillz]

@@kushalrijal9453 Changes nothing, why must someone else's child die for your child's mistake.

[@semoneg2826]

He decided not to go with oxygen who's is very important to his survival yet people are judging other for not giving him their oxygen... An convinced death is calling many people to that mountain

[@sergebreton6776]

From 🇨🇦. This is by far…the best narrative from the Everest I’ve ever seen. Thks

[@peterfrazer1943]

As a total Layman to Mountains and climbing them, I think that Everest is one place in the World that when you are so close to the Summit, it really is everyman for himself. As someone said, you may as well be on the Moon. I also think that everyone who goes there, knows this and accepts that if you succumb to the conditions, there is no help. God bless them all.

[@ChooseU4ever]

I watched this doccie last night. I couldnt sleep afterward. What a tragic story. I just started taking up climbing/and hiking. RIP to all the lives conquered by Everest. RIP David Sharp.

[@ruthondicho3155]

I'm here because I'm Kenyan #Rip Kirui

[@MwendwaMathias]

I'm here after our own Kenyan Cheruiyot passed away in n attempt to reach the summit, so sad....

[@joshuajaque3166]

I’ll never get how people can expect others to risk there lives to attempt to bring someone down from such a difficult place to get to in the first place

[@steicyramirezmedina910]

The issue is that they did try to move him once they had already summited. That's the controversy.

[@hojo9115]

You can see how moved these climbers were by this situation. Also, if a person cannot stand, how could they be helped in such a terrible situation?

[@Sabbra]

The images that where produced for this doc are freaking amazing, you really feel like that those are real images from the day

[@luisreis3202]

Mixed feelings. Seeing a man dying that horrendous way and accept it as natural it is too much to me. To be honest I did not like the character of Bryce(?) . Sir Hillary has legitimacy to criticize so following him in this matter.

[@MUFC1933]

I guarantee everyone else ignored him because they said “ the first group haven’t helped him lets continue” or even “ first group may have arranged help so continue”

[@shivamthakur1176]

Exactly

[@valerune192]

Worst thing is how long it took him to die. Sitting there alone, tortured, knowing your fate. Survival instinct fighting to live, but you also want to embrace death so you dont have to suffer anymore

[@Peace-tk3gr]

Completely ludicrous to criticise the one person who definitely couldn't rescue DS. Having said that, it's interesting that the only person who actually tried to help David was a sherpa.

[@paulmahy]

And Max Shya

[@AavegSheth]

Absolutely True

[@philcliffe6909]

... and what of people who are prepared to run into a burning building to help people. Or those who helped and lost their lives during 9/11?

[@danizweifler6061]

you are right...but please explain to me , why a double leg amputated man needs to summit or strait forward: why in the world needs he to be in the Himalaya anyway ? ? ?

[@mikaeleurenius2054]

@@danizweifler6061 I tend to agree. Although I think Mark absolutely didn't deserve any of the criticism directed towards him for not attempting to save David, it is beyond me what he was even doing up there. Tellingly, it ended in him not being able to save himself either, and with additional frostbite leading to yet further amputations. At the NZ tax-payers' expense. With that, I'm not saying a double amputee shouldn't push his/her boundaries just like anyone else would or be entitled to pursue his/her dreams. I'm only sayting that Mark already suffered tragedy on the mountain, but clearly didn't learn a thing.

[@Badwisdom]

How in god's name did they manage to film this documentary is beyond me. What an achievement in itself.

[@jamesmacrae5748]

WOW this is the most intense documentary i have ever seen, im so happy for all those that made it to the top and sad for the people that died trying...respect to all!

[@dobedobedooo]

Then you have to watch the best one ever done: ”Storm over Everest”. It’s on youtube.

[@AK-dw8jo]

Have your opinion but this is just proof how stupid we are. Nothing but ego and if anything I feel sorry for every single family that lost loved ones to their ego and pride

[@bennyboy2079]

​​@@AK-dw8jo I agre I dont mean to sound cold but I have zero respect and zero sympathy getting breathless and cold and putting lives at risk for what.... a nice view and ego boost

[@DW14974]

For the everyday man/ woman watching these mountaineering documentaries, greed, ambition and selfishness always seems to be the problem.

[@nr1785]

And pride/ego.

[@greenerdays]

“If you can do that, you can do anything”. The catch is… if you can’t, you get to do nothing else.

[@ouassim-]

Damn seeing David still alive there was too hard for me, kept wondering what he was thinking all those hours he was conscious in.. so hard to watch

[@stigclemens]

DEAR Cowboy, I salute you. Your honest and heartbreakening thoughts and reflections, says it all ❤

[@stevodin2977]

Thanks to Cowboy for his Honesty. we need more of Cowboy, and the world will be fine

[@eruston]

It was David sharp’s responsibility. He made the wrong decision to summit late and then made 30+ climbers feel guilty for his mistake. RIP David.

[@zwierciadlany]

Poor comment! You will make many wrong decisions and people will help you at least once in your lifetime. They should at least try!

[@lanycera]

You do realise that David Sharp himself helped save a Mexican climber on Everest in 2004? Shit happens. Yes, he made mistakes (like not letting people know when he'd attempt the summit or even taking a radio call with him) but others did too before and after him. The first team that came across David (himex) actually should've made sure he was okay as he according to them "seemingly struggled to ascend" and only moved very slowly. I don't even blame the teams later on when his limbs were already frozen. Fact is that Everest mountaineering has become somewhat of an actual tragedy since people feel the need to ascend at all cost and litter the entire mountain with their shi* and trash. No compassion for human life or the nature. Then there is Nima + Gelje who spend 6 hrs carrying a mountaineer on Everest down and saving his life.

[@ganappashivaiah6064]

i'd have at least tried to revive him than just stand there filming him. pathetic comment. be human.

[@alexisgordon2759]

This is one of the BEST Everest doc I have personally ever seen. extremely emotional and shocking

[@cdes1776]

This doc is about Mount Denali.... ?

[@dobedobedooo]

Then you have to watch the best one ever made: ”Storm over Everest”. It’s on youtube.

[@redheron4321]

They're not alpinists. They're rich tourists with a gym membership and a need of recognition. I am hardly surprised by this kind of behaviour.

[@MusiicRoolz]

he was alone, had barely any oxygen, no radio, thin gloves, not wearing hat or goggles..I'm not saying these are reasons to ignore him but my god, was he trying to die

[@littlemissgwendolen1466]

In the death zone, you can’t carry someone down. If they can’t move by themseves, can’t form sentences and are basically showing no signs of live, you can’t help them, no matter how badly you want to. The difference between David Sharp and Lincoln Hall is that Hall was able to help himself. He was able to move and talk. Sharp wasn’t.

[@principecaprincipeca2243]

It is possible Sharp could have been able to help himself if he was given oxygen the minute he was first spotted. But nobody did, because they wanted to summit.

[@principecaprincipeca2243]

It is possible Sharp could have been able to help himself if he was given oxygen the minute he was first spotted. But nobody did, because they wanted to summit.

[@ralphbooger4756]

they could have gave him oxygen, food, water... and tried to communicate with him properly. they did not make much effort, the guy was still alive when they came back down again a half day later. it is not that they did not want to risk their lives, they did not want to risk their summit attempt!

[@Peace-tk3gr]

@@principecaprincipeca2243 Agreed 👌

[@principecaprincipeca2243]

@Anno Kitsune oh, yes I do. You have no idea why and how much I know about the issue.

[@Luke-tg9jy]

I mean the money most of these climbers pay to achieve this now pretty much sums up the type of ego maniacs are out there doing this. You have that much money; $60k to $200k to climb a mountain, you don't care about anyone but yourself.

[@rejaneflorinda6162]

hey man, the money is theirs they can do with it what they want. And it is not a situation where you care or not for another human being. It is a situation where you have to decide if you can help them or not, without putting your life in serious danger. People die climbing mountains, that is a fact of life.

[@akianaaki4209]

Exactly,these people just want to accomplish something for their egos ,but soon or later they'll understand climbing a mountain doesn't do anything.

[@lo2740]

@@rejaneflorinda6162 its not about the money, its about the asshole personnality and shitty aspirations (usually for all the wrong reasons) the money spending is just a marker here.

[@theworkethic]

@@lo2740 Facts

[@rustyray420]

​@Akiana aki David had that same ego you're complaining and for his ego, you want others to risk their own lives for his own willful negligence?

[@elijahogaya8837]

In memory of our own Kirui. Rest easy champ.

[@Paulinemwarabu]

And today Everest has rested a Kenyan RIP Cheruiyot!

[@jamesmichaels4979]

It took 10 Sherpa people to help a climber down who could walk that was already futher down the mountain

[@lastpenny849]

Lincoln Hall was on the south side, so at least he has the sunlight in the daytime. It probably saved his life.

[@kathrynh4384]

​@lastpenny849 knowing next to nothing about mountaineering, what would be the benefit of climbing the North side of the mountain?

[@kiritojanger31]

Cameraman never dies

[@gabordrotos5602]

It's almost impossible to rescue someone from the death zone if he/she is unable to move. Simple as that. What I don't like in this story that the sherpas only tried to pull him out a lot later, when it was clearly too late. But it's not they who made a mistake. If he was already freezing at 3am he was already there for several hours which means he did not follow the sane procedures and climbed in an inappropriate timing.

[@GusMac-kv7zi]

Exactly my feeling.

[@davidzof]

he was also unlucky, he clearly summited late and then found shelter in Green Boot's cave probably with the idea of moving but it was unusually cold that night and that is what seems to have caught him out. Maybe with some O2 and help from the Sherpas he could have been got moving when they first came across him but the Sherpas are responsible to their clients and the team leader.

[@gerardroll6468]

I’ll never forget the disaster that unfolded on Everest in the late 90’s (1996 I believe) involving the late guides Scott Fisher (from the US) & Rob Hall (from NZ). They later made a movie out of it, made more believable given that it was based on a true, yet tragic story that ended with multiple deaths.

[@MajorSkyblue]

What was the movie called?

[@gerardroll6468]

@@MajorSkyblue … It was quite simply called “Everest” & it starred Jason Clarke as Rob Hall & Jake Gyllenhaal as Scott Fisher. It was released in 2015 & runs for around 2 hours. Well worth a look 👍😁

[@phonehome7349]

@@gerardroll6468 I went to the IMAX theater to see that, but I had a serious panic attack (somewhere around halfway through) and fled the theater like the devil himself was at my heels. Took several minutes to be able to breathe normally. I think it was a combination of the loud surround sound and the visuals of them on that ladder above the sheer death drop. It was an impressively done film for sure.

[@gerardroll6468]

@@phonehome7349 … I think that was the scene where one of the characters was almost lost in a crevasse while trying to cross in a ladder & a collapsed ice wall nearby caused him to lose balance & almost fall. I’ve seen many movies in an IMAX theatre & can relate to your predicament but now, I just watch movies from the safety of my own living room thanks to my pay-TV service provider 👍😁. I always enjoy movies more when they’re based on true stories & real life people, such as those in the Everest film.

[@phonehome7349]

@@gerardroll6468 I was thinking the same thing - that it might have been the scene with the near-fall from the ladder that did me in. The noise level was definitely part of it too. Chaos. I ran out of there so fast I didn't even drop my 3D glasses in the bin. 😀

[@user-dc8qy5ng4b]

UNBELIEVABLE AND TO CLIMB WITH "NO" LEGS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING COULD DEFEAT THAT INSPIRATIONAL MAN GOD NOW HAS HIM ❤

[@alison__16]

David Sharpe was entirely responsible for his own predicament.

[@stevedonnatvcanada3480]

The camera guys are also legends. Getting all these incredible shots and sounds. Different angles bravo to them 🙏🤘

[@nr1785]

So the helicopter crashed and the rescuers almost died on mount cook trying to rescue Mark Inglis, but he decided to risk his and others lives again by climbing Mount Everest?

[@shivamthakur1176]

Thank god I was not the only one thinking that. Well I understand the criticism from Sir Hillary.

[@Pomi3001]

I guess I should be grateful that my ego doesn't require me to do stuff like climbing Everest to sustain my self respect..

[@maryarya5678]

Me too

[@fanelemabaso2514]

Sharp's death is on Sharp and Sharp alone. He knew the risks and he went ahead anyway, with no oxygen and, alone. With that being said, I do believe that those guys couldve saved him and abandoned their summit. Sharp died by his own actions but also, the actions of others. I do not blame the others either, it was self preservation.

[@BadBrucey]

I don't know. At 1am in the death zone trying to descend with a guy that couldn't move on his own? They even said two Sherpa's could barely move him 4 feet in 25 minutes.

[@sergebreton6776]

From 🇨🇦. You could be a Supreme Court judge. You have the most wiser analysis…so far. Thks

[@SpannerzIsHappy]

How do you think they could have helped him? He refused to move and you CANNOT carry someone down. Its literally impossible. I don't understand how you think he could have been saved

[@GusMac-kv7zi]

Engels death was on Engels alone but he was rescued twice was he not? He would never have gotten off Everest have he not been strapped to the back of Sherpa and I suppose he should have been left for dead on Mt Cooke because it was all on him to climb mountains and accept his fate if things went badly wrong for him. How fortunate for Engels he was able to say, without empathy, there was nothing I could do knowing he was still living due to two separate rescues.

[@euniceogello1409]

Even after watching this documentary some people can't understand the danger of trying to rescue some at death zone!

[@peggymc554]

Thankyou for an informative considerate respectful documentary.

[@MassimoZucchettiprof]

This is an excellent documentary, one of the best I’ve ever seen. Please note that it included reconstructions, I mean, some footage was added with actors (Dave Mcleod as David Sharpe, for instance) and that is why it is so clear, so good, superior quality. Coming to Sharp’s rescue, only someone who has been up there can talk. Sir Edmund deserves great respect, we embrace his words, like my favorite guy, the Cowboy, did; but other ones who criticized the climbers had no right to act like haters on the web. That was not the web, it was not a videogame, it was not a Sunday hike, that was the Death Zone. There was nothing more they could do, it is sad but it is the crude, hard truth. You must not be blamed to have stayed alive. Anyway the real heroes are the Sherpas: my highest respect goes to them.

[@calimero7176]

how do you know Dave McLeod played David Sharpe?

[@annamariaerdelyi7656]

Yes.

[@N1NJAKIDD]

Thanks for this, I was trying to figure out if it was real footage of Sharp. Normally the editors would put a caption stating if real or not

[@caeroline_h6612]

omg i thought it was real 💀

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

I clued in that it must be a reconstruction bc from what I understand, at least some of them would need to have eye protection on --- your eyes can literally freeze on Everest. It's highly unlikely all 5 people in the scene would be bare-eyed.

[@2wittysue535]

You're quicker getting rescued off Everest than seeing a doctor in NHS Accident & Emergancy.

[@SvPVids]

Its so easy to ask "why didnt anyone save him?" from your warm comfy chair in your home.

[@ganappashivaiah6064]

i ask, why no one attempted to try and revive him? was that a " too risky and a mammoth" task? thats pathetic.

[@mbaihaule7885]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@painfreesunrise]

I would NEVER climb Everest... why? because its very likely to lose your life up there. and every guy climbing this mountain knows this. and IF I would climb that mountain I would turn around once I saw the first dead body. how can you move on seeing this??? these are human beings. how SELFISH and heartless must you be to keep on walking... especially when there is somebody dying !!!

[@tixie88]

I remember hearing about this story as a child. They made it out to seem like the only thing standing in the way of Sharp being rescued was egoism and ambition. Back then the media forgot to mention the factors oxygen depravation, severe frostbite and death drops on all sides. It's good that someone decided to make a more balanced depiction of events. The only downside for me is that awful back lighting in the interviews. Makes every hair on their ears and neck prominent 😳

[@harryf1ashman]

Surely the first responsibility of a climber is to himself and his own safety. Sharp seemingly abrogated that responsibility and the critics of Ingles expected him to pick up the baton. The one criticism you could level at some of the climbers is that they didn't stop but I seriously doubt they could have offered anything more than a little comfort at that stage. I have been to Nepal 5 times and you are continually confronted by severe poverty. At the end of the day, just like the climbers on Everest, you just put it to the back of your mind.

[@PhilMcr]

But if they had stopped they could’ve ended up in the position as that guy

[@Secretname951]

@@PhilMcrsame as going for the summit but they still go for the summit.

[@morquan1948]

Who is the man who made the film??? Simply out of this world.. Incredible!!!! who has taken shots of people who look at Sharp?? It's surreal..

[@darrenheaps9272]

PTSD is not just happening to soldiers and first responders....there is so many things in life that can mess your mind....imagine passing frozen dead people right in front of you and you can't do anything about it....I was a witness to a house fire...there was a child in a crib stuck in a room....I tried to get in through the window as flames were shooting out of every other opening....I failed, and a 15 month old child who was my nephew....perished....through no fault of anyone's except a wood burning stove that just somehow malfunctioned...I certainly can imagine what these guys go through on a daily basis...just like I do...I never really speak, or share that, but I thought it was appropriate.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

How horrible for you and your family. I am so very sorry for your loss…

[@mustangsally4362]

Incredibly moving documentary, thank you 🙏

[@brentonandrew4665]

Loses both legs due to frost bite .. climbs it again with no legs.. very courageous man but was it really worth it!!??

[@helenrogers7738]

I would say it’s stupid rather than courageous. He put himself in that situation twice. Completely unnecessary to have done it either time. It’s more ego than courage if you ask me.

[@brentonandrew4665]

@@helenrogers7738 yeah spot on. You’d think he’d at least take up a different extreme sport where you would have less chance of losing life or limb

[@rejaneflorinda6162]

Well, I wouldn't go there with a pair of extra legs because I don't like the cold. But of course, it is worth it for those who have this immense drive to do something extraordinary against all adversities. If there weren't for these sorts of people the world would not have moved forward. In the end, we all have the Icaros drive in us, but many do not follow it. Those who do, climb up Everest, go to the voids of a humongous cave or the deepest part of the seas. One day someone ends up on Mars setting the first human colony there. We need them, even if their choices or the risks they take seem so difficult to understand.

[@principecaprincipeca2243]

Courageous? He was literally carried down by a sherpa.

[@brentonandrew4665]

@@principecaprincipeca2243 umm yeah im pretty sure he climb up the dam thing to with artificial legs

[@ianstoker1]

Every climber on Everest is being selfish by risking their lives in the first place. If a climber has to stop to help stricken climbers then its likely that nobody would ever reach the top.

[@gavindmonte591]

Intriguing the whole thing about getting to the summit and indeed making it back down….what a brutal and beautiful world it is up there….mixed with the sadness of all who have lost their lives….

[@ballaservices9275]

I must say David Sharpe was the author of his own demise. He went without oxygen and tried to climb Everest in the afternoon, way too late. I understand it sounds callous for a climber to go straight past a dying man but there really wasn't much any of them could do, especially not a double amputee.

[@Andrewf5251]

sounds like a man was going for straight suicide and i understand why noone wanted to put their own life to safe someone like that . putting ur own life on the line for someone who didnt think for himself is not something i personally would do . maybe there are some hero type of ppl there who would carry him down from 8k+ height but thats like risking ur own life .

[@vestland3877]

No personal sherpa, no oxygen, not even a radio. What a fool! He serves as an example.

[@kushalrijal9453]

@@Andrewf5251 you seem really pissed. Stop spamming

[@soumis5562]

​@@vestland3877he wanted to be an example and so he did😢

[@vestland3877]

@@soumis5562 he was a cheap. Thats it.

[@xKingSeraphx]

I don’t even climb or hike or anything but even I know it’s a common rule that you can’t save those on Everest if they can’t talk / move. You can’t expect someone to risk their life knowing they might not make it themselves

[@philcliffe6909]

What about people who run into a burning building to help people.

[@TealJosh]

@@philcliffe6909 you mean firefighters? What kind of burning building, one that is filled with smoke or filled with literal flames? People who do that, in either case, who aren't firefighters, don't understand the risk or don't care for their lives.

[@philcliffe6909]

@@TealJosh I mean anybody going into a burning building to help. Recently several gas explosions resulted in members of the public risking their lives to save people. Earthquakes, swollen rivers take your pick. People jump into the sea to save a pet, for fucks sake. Then their are the climbers who will step over a dying person to reach a summit because they have paid too much money to stay and help. Bless them.

[@TealJosh]

@@philcliffe6909 a firefighter wouldn't dive into building without proper gear because they know the risks. A rescue diver wouldn't jump into dangerous waters without gear and support team. People who do those things are likely to end up another body. I wouldn't do it. Would you? Would you just pointlessly die after your pet? It seems that the only moral thing, according to you, is to stay with the dying person. Because they are literally unable to help. Then turn back hour after stopping because they are getting cold and resources are starting to run out due to giving oxygen.

[@philcliffe6909]

@@TealJosh Firefighters and rescue divers with equipment are still risking their lives. RNLI risk their lives as volunteers. Untrained people risk their lives because they cannot stand by and do nothing. Climbers: well they seem to be a breed apart and probably more akin to athletes with a competitive drive, only sports people are less likely to lose their lives as easily, and its this drive coupled with the large amounts of money and time the allow them to step over a dying climber. What do I think: I think that there should be a system in place that allows for rescue. Has any organisation spent time looking into what could be done?.. doubt it. Special equipment that allows for a 'safer' rescue to a height that allows for helicopter removal and before climbing all should have to pay into a fund that would secure a rescue. Its always mentioned how dangerous these climbs are and how climbers are on the edge of life etc but never a mention of the background work that goes on like guide ropes that have to be taken up each year, tents and equipment that have to be hauled and set up. It's like that, mentioning that would take away from the bravery the climbers face.... just bullshit. I don't think you can justify leaving a person to die when you put yourself in that situation as well. I mean they can't even be bothered to bring their rubbish down so what chance has an injured person.

[@richlee509]

The cowboy was the most decent out of the lot. He actually cared man.

[@sportguy-live26]

He knew what he was doing don't pity him or blame others he chased the glory it didn't work out he knew the risk..

[@jussaraneves9970]

Se David Sharp perseguiu a Glória - a Alcançou pois esteve no - CUME! 💪👏🙏

[@zoranskoda2281]

Out of hypoxia he was incapacitated possibly via brain swelling. If so, injection of dexamethasone could have made him able to move when they first found him. Expeditions usually carry dexamethasone.

[@danielvanstichel6077]

Incredible documentary. And to imagine that the climbers also captured this on video is even more tremendous. Since I was a kid, I like to climb on everything. I mean very small rocks. Then some pyramids on Mexican, Egyptian and Cambodian temples. Nothing really impressive of course but even there, descending is more difficult than climbing. I can't imagine what those brave men have been through. I am full with respect for these formidable great climbers.

[@mrmf4712]

Ok you are a climber and a hero. Sure.

[@redstardragon3089]

So you climbed scared sites! Wow, how ignorant of you

[@rejaneflorinda6162]

Did I hear it right? Did people choose to blame the double amputee for not risking his life to save a dying man in the death zone of Everest? Also, how can you blame others to save their own energy in that situation? Instead of one dead person, there would be three or four.

[@thiefonthecross7552]

Yeah you heard it right. So stupid.

[@ralphbooger4756]

if you put it in other words they stepped over a man in distress on the way up without much care for his situation... their focus was on reaching the summit. of course they say radio calls were made, but then none was received... so there is that! who knows how bad his situation was when they left him for the summit... for certain it was much worse when they returned! maybe some oxygen could have made a difference and a proper attempt to communicate with him, maybe a radio call to basecamp informing them of the situation could have made a difference... if trying to help someone is more important to one than reaching the summit, those hours instead spent trying to warm him up and get him to eat/drink something and get him to walk down on his own just might have worked. but then again it might not... and your 50k summit attempt is wasted, it is all about priorities, and i think generally people were mostly upset about the priorities made rather than a double amputee not carrying him down on his back. generally i do not think most people realize the selfish nature of a mountaineer. personally i would not leave someone in distress to their death on my way up to the summit even if i had payed 50k to be sherpaed up there... even if there was not much i could do i would rather spend the day trying then going for the summit, there is no risk of life in that but im no mountaineer and i dont give a damn about summiting everest. in the end i do not really blame them... well, maybe a little bit of judgement on their character as they did very little but that would count the same for the majority of everest tourists i would think! the guy who died put himself there and knew the nature of these people as he was one of them himself!

[@principecaprincipeca2243]

You heard it wrong. He didn't risk his summit for a human life. Summit was more important to hi and all the others

[@frozenmirror2815]

@@ralphbooger4756 why are you barking on each and every peoples comment, better train for climbing mountains and do volunteering there in death so that every one left alive from there.

[@ralphbooger4756]

@@frozenmirror2815 i am barking because the picture they painted of this situation is misleading! now let me ask you this... if you had payed 50k for a chance to summit Everest and finally realize a lifelong dream, then on the last day and final bid for the summit, two hours in to the days climb you just started from high camp... you find a climber in distress that you had seen the day before as he was making a late attempt for the summit, he failed to make the last two hours down to the safety of high camp... he is still alive, what would your priorities be at this point? now, hindsight is 20/20... but that is also where ones character is truly revealed! so with that in mind... if you knew that this distressed climber would still be alive and coherent enough to tell you his name and what sherpa company he was with 9 hours later, which is the time you need to get to the summit and back down to him... but now the time and resources you had available to try to help him would be spent, would it have any influence on your priorities?

[@KillTheDistraction258]

Best documentary I've ever seen

[@nr1785]

For me, the fact that David Sharpe was able to talk after receiving oxygen from the Sherpa and even walk a few steps, means that he more than likely could have been saved if anyone had bothered to truly help him on the way up. It seems no one wanted to sacrifice their summit to save a life.

[@magicmillz]

Alternativley why would someone risk their own life? especially if that person is incapacitated its dangerous for both the rescuer and rescuee.

[@loicdelcourte9423]

Yes, but they didn't know how far/close from death he was. That's what we often forget when judging these kind of events. The guys didn't know is David Sharp was still "savable". He couldn't move, couldn't talk. They might have had an hour or two before he died. Oxygen might not have had any effect if he was already in severe hypothermia. Of course he didn't went down this quick, but we know that because it happened. They didn't. In the death zone, the safest thing to do is to play safe. Don't take unnecessary risk. Giving him any oxygen, food or else would have endangered them all. In the end, these guys (both survivors and dead ones) know the risks, and they know that in these harsh conditions, rescue is near impossible.

[@susanread5657]

Sacrifice their own life, you mean. People have barely enough oxygen for themselves, which is why he got into trouble in the first place. He used up his oxygen too soon. If anyone shared their own precious oxygen, it would just mean one more death, sadly. It is undeniably tragic.

[@jussaraneves9970]

Sacrificar duas vidas em nome de Um não galgar o Cume (objetivo do Alpinismo) não é Alpinismo ... simples sssim.

[@UmarIbnAlKhattab1]

​@@susanread5657mate he didnt even take any oxygen

[@darcygraham2430]

30 people walked by the fallen climber...let that sink in.

[@ganappashivaiah6064]

thats a disgraceful act being a human.

[@Steven-qi4gm]

I know very little about this subject, but from what I have read and researched about Everest is that oxygen and energy levels must be kept up. To save someone in that condition would mean pretty much carrying them down, also probably having to share food, sweets and oxygen with them. The climbers only take what they need to reduce weight so sharing these things is deadly for themselves. It seems to be a similar situation as, do you Jump in the sea to save a drowning man if you can’t swim yourself? it wouldn’t surprise me if half of the deaths in Everest is a person trying to help another, if they didn’t try to help I imagine the death toll would be much less. Either way I wouldn’t climb it because I know I would be a burden to others and likely die.

[@rajadeepak41]

I would like to know how many people have tried dying to help , as I remember the story of gary mcdonell(I'm sorry if the spelling is wrong) as he had (according to theories) died trying to help 3 koreans down and would've probably made it if he didn't

[@HALTSMAULALLLER]

You get it ! Nobody could help him.

[@mathiasbartl903]

I think people have the impression that being on the ascent means you got reserves.

[@GusMac-kv7zi]

Well in the 96 disaster Pitman was dragged up the mountain and later attempts were made to rescue both Hall and Scott but David Sharpe was a nobody and didn't belong to a high profile team, he did the same stupid thing that Hall did breaking his own turn around time but still rescue attempts were made in the most difficult conditions.

[@Prirrie]

Maybe David deliberately chose not to talk back on their first passage, because he already accepted his faith? Like what his friend said: “Did David expect to be rescued? Absolutely not, he understood the risk and didn’t want too endanger any one else”. Maybe he already accepted the consequences of his foolish mistakes?

[@leanderrowe2800]

Considering the deadly environment and the sole purpose of the long prepared and expensive trip, to save someone can either be fatal to yourself or at minimum means forsaking the whole climb. So if you do try to save someone, then you are definitely a hero. But if you don't, there's no guilt.

[@Pensivata]

I had, at one time, been tempted to make an ascent of Everest. But the main reason I would not do it today is due to the traffic - the whole idea of being stuck in a queue of 'tourists' - completely destroys the whole notion of doing something unique and individual. And that's not to mention the danger posed by a static queue which lingers up there for periods of time which is totally beyond your own control. It then becomes a life & death challenge of not - a person against the mountain - but rather a person against the crowd. Where's the nobility in that? To be - potentially - put in at risk of death due to the lack of preparedness or simply 'unfitness' of other people. How crap would that be? I can see why people regard K2 or Annapurna as the real challenge.

[@franksmith541]

A long queue formed during the 2008 K2 expedition which was one of the causes of the tragedy that year. A climber heading down snapped a photo of it. You would never see such a lineup on Annapurna, the ultimate challenge in Himalayan mountaineering.

[@Unoduetrequattro340]

Again... something "unique and individual" egotism at its best

[@emmakennedy104]

So it’s ok for you to climb but not ok for everyone else? Your reasons are better than theirs? So they shouldn’t be up there? Love climbing and there’s nothing better than defeating the mountain you give your blood sweat and tears to. I dreamt of Everest from a young child. But to be so self absorbed and so selfish as to think it’s not enjoyable because other people may hold me up. As if somehow I have more right than another person to summit. You make not like the queues (I also would absolutely hate them) but I don’t think or rather come across as if I am special so should have the mountain to myself.

[@Pensivata]

@@emmakennedy104 Incorrect - I did not say it was not ok for everyone else. Each to his own - Butlins, Mecenary in Angola, people trafficking, Bingo, knitting - take your pick. Straw man argument - I was talking about my own inclination - no one else's. I just hate queues - anywhere. Hate them.

[@lo2740]

there is nothing unique about climbing everest, even without the queues of "tourists" it is just dumb and delusional, one has to be a real asshole to have such "goal" in life.