JOSH RICHARDS REACTS TO NESSA AND JADEN’S NEW RELATIONSHIP - BFFs EP. 24 W/ GRIFFIN JOHNSON

[@bffspod]

The crew is in Miami and finally puts an end to all the latest drama. Griffin Johnson joins to talk about the Nessa/Jaden relationship, and loyalty between LA celebrities. SUBSCRIBE - barstool.link/3m4Q0Fq

[@badussywr3cker]

dude I'm literally crying for josh and mads. they didn't deserve that

[@immasavage341]

Bring Mads and hear her story! Then we can actually put an end to this drama, cause y’all did her so bad

[@CC-ku2hz]

Disappointed how Mads is being treated. She is the youngest and deserves an apology from Josh.

[@noorhossler3582]

mads said in the podcast she think jadens management team brainwashed him into falling for ness for the clout and attention.. idk it just makes so much sense yk

[@olivialeigh5359]

44 year old man caught up in trivial, fleeting drama between 18 year olds. What even is this? This is so embarrassing.

[@caitieguttry]

The fact he is more angry with mads than with nessa or jaden makes me believe he is more embarrassed than heartbroken.

[@auroralorenzo8857]

Everyone is hating on Josh but can I just say you can 100% see he is hurting. He's broken. He doesn't want to believe his bestfriend and the love of his life are together after they broke up. He is trying to make himself feel better, he doesn't know how to handle the situation. Obviously what he's saying is blatantly wrong but the poor guy is shattered. I hope he recovers and gives Mads an apology

[@margaritahbanuelos9617]

@@auroralorenzo8857 everyone is supporting Josh.... and it’s irritating he won’t back her up tho

[@auroralorenzo8857]

@@margaritahbanuelos9617 I understand I said that but just give him time

[@willowgalvan499]

This is so trye

[@ginevrafalaschi7928]

@@auroralorenzo8857 exactly

[@kittypurrykat]

josh is defending them, mads would call them out. mads needs to be here to clarify. I think mads knows more about the situation, two weeks ago josh was saying there was 0% chance of nessa and jaden happening.

[@ekm7952]

He’s in denial, poor kid doesn’t want to accept that he was screwed over. This shit definitely been going on for a bit

[@mh-di1wd]

I think he just doesn’t want to admit it. Mads on the other hand has come to terms with it and is tired of the internet shitting on her so she just said the truth

[@poff1626]

Listen to the latest episode on the Call Her Daddy podcast. She was just on it and explained everything!!!

[@mandyholliday7998]

YES i want josh to give her more credit but i get that his mindset isn’t in a place to accept that rn

[@claire-hu7jo]

@@ekm7952 yep. i feel so bad for him. he really is upset

[@basketballplayer4978]

Buddy’s best friend raw dogging his girl and he’s mad at the messenger who told him lmao

[@Layleyphillips]

Lol eloquently said

[@thelmaokocha2900]

Honestly 😂😂

[@brooklynn4952]

Best day it was said

[@DeeDee-mb2tp]

This needs to be top comment💯😭🤣🤣

[@therealtalia9782]

Lmfaoooooooooooooo this was the comment for me

[@Cynthias231]

not josh protecting nessa and jaden but shading mads when shes literally on his side?? she literally messaged josh but he ignored her so obv shes gonna take it to social media. hes putting his anger on the wrong person. tsk

[@shaedonghost]

I agree

[@connorwise6716]

is your entire life worrying about other people’s relationships?? lmao this comment feels bad

[@Cynthias231]

@@connorwise6716 First, When did I say I am worrying about other peoples lifes? You clearly are here to listen to the podcast because of the drama as well so if im “worrying” abt other peoples lifes then u are too. Second, this is a comment section and its made so ppl can share their opinion on something. Third, u dont know me at all so dont assume things without even knowing who i am.

[@francescabacon]

THIS OMG

[@connorwise6716]

@@Cynthias231 yeah no lol i clicked off no more than 2 minutes in

[@quetzaliescalona9921]

The fact that josh didn’t apologize to mads and still went to talk so badly about her & defending jaden & nessa after everything it sad :/ sending love to mads 🦋

[@justthuu]

exactly!

[@madisondonahoe9236]

and mads didn’t even talk badly about them on the podcast either, but he’s making it seem that way.. she said she hoped that they made each other happy

[@quetzaliescalona9921]

@@madisondonahoe9236 exactly I was rooting for both mads & josh but just mads now she honestly deserves a apology from him hopefully josh see’s jaden & nessa wrong doings & sees mads was just trying to do right :/

[@seanh4311]

Yeah, cause she kinda ruined Josh’s life

[@connorswanson4181]

do u realize she made it public without even notifying josh, do u realize how hard it is to deal with the whole internet. Fuck her not sending love

[@gabriella3602]

It’s so sad he’s defending them because he’s so hurt he can’t even accept the fact they’ve betrayed him. Heartbreaking really

[@Mglock333]

I agree

[@applesamsung4944]

Yea and then he blames it on mads. Felt bad in be beginning but not now. Have a feeling jaden and nessa know something that we don’t know and josh doesn’t want them to say anything so he’s defending them.

[@katecastaneda9615]

He knows that, but he is just trying to be mature. Which is actually really hard knowing the amount of people that are following their “drama”

[@gabriella3602]

@@katecastaneda9615 suppose that comes with being in the public eye

[@luis-dn2yo]

@@katecastaneda9615 u right but if he really was mature he’d apologize to mads.

[@samanthat9997]

I hate that josh is basically trash talking mads for putting online but in a way keeps defending jaden and nessa. It was gonna come out anyways when people starting seeing nessa and Jaden out together.

[@samanthat9997]

But when it happened the first time with chase he brought it out social media and bashed him like crazy. He needs to hold nessa accountable for actions. I’m not saying bashing her but stop defending them so much like they didn’t do anything

[@ericabekiarian707]

Facts like jaden broke bro code you don’t date your best friends ex

[@aigberacheal8863]

Me too.. hate he did that

[@aigberacheal8863]

I have a feeling they hv something over josh! Maybe the jail thing .. something is not right

[@BreakingTheSystembrand]

literally like they’re social stars like the fuck do they expect😭🤣

[@carliebank970]

Ok but josh owes an apology to mads after she was literally so nice about him and that’s what she gets, now he needs to understand the fact that his “best friend” and his “love” backstabbed him.

[@francescabacon]

FR

[@wilmercisneros2912]

YESSS, he just doesn’t want to accept the fact that he legit was backstabbed. REGARDLESS of anything, this whole “drama” was going to be aired so he just needs to accept it all and move on lol

[@nathdogson]

Yeah like what’s wrong with this dude.

[@abeautifulmess163]

fr

[@vvthetalentlessduo6976]

P

[@Laura-hu6rk]

I’m baffled that he has more problems with mads than with the ppl who betrayed him. Glad he matured last year he was all about bullying huddy to the ground

[@thaliap3125]

Yeah he needs to understand mads perspective too instead of blaming her

[@ikkie2725]

100% agree

[@aigberacheal8863]

It’s so surprising

[@brandonmalik6641]

Becaus she started it all

[@luis-dn2yo]

@@brandonmalik6641 how? she told josh that nessa and jaden had a thing going on but josh chose to believe jaden instead of her, so naturally she’s going to feel frustrated and just let all her feelings out.

[@jordaniliff2110]

lowkey annoyed that the only person josh seems upset w is mads. so amazed at how mature josh is but id definitely be more mad at jaden and nessa than mads

[@annawilliams2538]

I think hes prolly just upset that half the internet knew before he did. It is weird that he isnt mad at them, but hes probably still in denial. Its a lot to process in a short amount of time, his best friend getting with the girl he loves. He prolly just needs time to think.

[@Dani-vy8ht]

@@annawilliams2538 she tried to tell him before she brought it to the internet but he called her crazy’s

[@sunflower-jv2tp]

Chase said Josh cheated on Nessa multiple times on his list last year and everything else on that list have been proven to be true

[@mavireerit6590]

I think he wants to blame someone else besides the real situation that’s happening, he just denies what’s right in front of him so he doesn’t get hurt any more. It’s easy that way 🤷‍♀️(I don’t agree though)

[@sarrox887]

@@Dani-vy8ht he didn't call her crazy. What are u on about? Wtf?

[@nyv.2170]

it’s the fact that josh is more mad at the person that had his back than the two ppl that literally disrespected tf outta him.

[@youtuberintheflesh]

literally. jaden and nessa have to have something on him, because he’s not this mature and everyone knows it

[@nyv.2170]

@@youtuberintheflesh that’s what i’m saying, he’s hiding a lot of emotions but i get it, going through something like that is hard but still, mads deserves more than what josh is giving her.

[@tokyotalkshoops]

He’s probably just shocked rn

[@loohted]

@@nyv.2170 Right? She directly apologized to him yet here he is gaslighting the fuck out of her

[@fayefasse1316]

fr the minute they all agreed with mads and like supported her for a sec he HAD to say smth to sqaush it

[@zacedwardxox]

Why does he act like he’d be the only person hurting in this situation and Mads wouldn’t. He can’t expect her to handle it exactly the same way

[@nasrihassan676]

first of all she said that she posted that tiktok bcs she was mad and im sure you get that too, AND when she came back to her senses she deleted it . second of all she did that podcast after josh knew and EVERYONE knew so idk what he mad about. third the paparazzi would have found out about it either way. he is just totally ignoring the fact that mads was hurt too just like he was. AND DONT YOU DARE SAY “she probably wasn’t hurt as much bcs she could talk about it online” bruh he is talking about it know too. he is telling everyone what mads told him , he wanted to keep it offline right?

[@Kesangep]

Mads didn’t bring it directly to social media, she went through a lot and then finally made it into social media because of frustration. Josh is literally so mature but please don’t shade mads

[@thaliap3125]

Retweet

[@mayas3063]

LITERALLY

[@michellereyes1827]

So true

[@Kesangep]

I am sure josh is handling this with respect because it’s the two person he loves (d) a lot, but mads only has Jaden in this situation. Josh remember how you went all public and even made a diss track when it was chase? Thats how mads must be feeling right?

[@Kesangep]

@@pend_deletemarisacallicott6290 Josh is such a kind person but I hope he’d stop dissing Mads like she is going through the same shit he is.

[@bid3ath]

i think it’s really sad he’s blaming mads like she PUBLICLY apologized and she was speaking on him so kindly.

[@mkvix7613]

True but I’m pretty sure he mostly mad that she brought the whole thing online like every detail

[@joeeatenton1335]

It’s Cus she bought it to the internet before anything could be sorted out before hand

[@bid3ath]

@@joeeatenton1335 ik why he was saying that but she was hurt- and don’t have to be talking down on her like that and stuff. ppl do irrational things in the heat of the moment, she knows it was wrong.

[@auroraac18]

@@mkvix7613 I think that she felt like she needed to after josh denied her calls, she tried to handle it offline and josh didn’t care enough

[@Itsforeignbb]

he is mad that she is brought everything online when it was not necessary. She can apologise all she wants but this has still been blown out of proportion and he wishes that it could just all go away...she's not innocent

[@jenniferturner1503]

I feel awful for Josh but he’s kidding himself if he thinks it would’ve stayed under wraps if Mads hadn’t brought it out. Are you kidding? The internet would’ve gone crazy as soon as they saw Jaden & Nessa really together.

[@aliciamcgifford7249]

Factsssssssssssssssss

[@adelined-p3426]

Exactly !!! And people put the pieces together eventually

[@randomi-army9253]

Josh said that they went out for publicity and it would have been after they all figured it out .

[@mariav9284]

@@randomi-army9253 exactly

[@saraob]

Literally

[@anagracie2362]

Josh is in denial. He is mad at madds, for telling him the truth and he doesn't want to hear that. He thinks Nessa is an angel. Wasn't she hooking up with chase too before?, Josh literally saw so many red flags yet he still sides with her and blames maddy. Like tf.

[@sma8129]

You're so right and yes she was looking up with Chase !

[@johnjungkook2721]

Yep - same thing happened with Chase.

[@acutiepieb2011]

Yeah but I think he said he hadn’t been the best to nessa in the past, so he probably owes her in a way

[@addisonadams9139]

because he obviously loves her

[@urmom-mv7vo]

@@amyiregamingonmoblie8048 with?

[@lindsaydottz463]

It’s kool that Josh is being so mature about this at such a young age. But I don’t like how he’s blaming Mass. he’s deff got his anger directed at the wrong person.

[@chantelanae]

I think it's because she took it to the internet and it seems like she's only worried about her feelings and no one else. Like even tho, it's her relationship it's also his and she doesn't seem too worried about josh just tryna ruin Jaden and Nessa's life. I think he's being very mature about it and mads is doing it to be petty.

[@katbaby]

@@chantelanae But josh did the same thing with the chase situation so idk why he’s being a hypocrite & everyone was gonna find out eventually.

[@chantelanae]

@@katbaby yeah that's why I don't think any of them should be talking about josh situation because griffin and noah are friends and they were going through the same shit so. It's like everyones forgot that.

[@katbaby]

@@chantelanae that’s different, griffin cheated on dixie and noah & griffin weren’t really friends

[@katbaby]

@@chantelanae you’re trying so hard to make mads look bad it’s embarrassing

[@natashasuresh1403]

The fact that mads literally apologized to Josh and Josh doesn't even care he's trying to defend Nessa and Jaden by not supporting mads

[@haveagooddaytodayy227]

Exactly !! She was so mature on the podcast with everything they discussed and the apology and this is what she gets I feel bad for her she deserves better especially when it’s not her fault those two got together she was just following her gut

[@natashasuresh1403]

@@haveagooddaytodayy227 exactly, she posted the video in the heat of the moment and anyone would do that. Even if she didn't post it, it would come out sooner or later.

[@kiearapruitt5676]

There is probably a lot more reasons why he doesn’t like her or doesn’t really care for her. She was right about the what happened but that doesn’t mean she’s not in the wrong for not thinking to give josh time before bringing it to social media and blowing it up.

[@aishazahoor3163]

We don’t know mads inside out. Obviously we heard her side of the story. Secondly, mads literally brought their personal life on social media when they didn’t even sorted anything among themselves. So like i am with Mads but she’s not all clean and we can’t say Josh is disrespecting her. Josh is hurting too. He wanted everything off social media.

[@mia.low54]

she still made up shit and that video for someone whos nesrly an adult thats pettt asf like josh has said what he has he cant just switch up now can he? so stfu and stop starting shit its clear that he doesnt want them to get hate for wanting to live their lives

[@kenzieandmore]

I feel so bad for josh he's probably hurting so much right now. He doesn't deserve this. He's being so mature right now with all this drama.

[@carissaingram5618]

Dyzaer you sound dumb, Josh clearly said in the video he never blocked jaden. Hs phone has been dead for like 5 hours so the iMessages were green. He’s still following him on everything.

[@rebeccachung3234]

@@dyzaerkrause8744 He took the girl that he loved and they are best friends, that's fucked

[@carlyohmer9934]

@Meko Haylee They did break up that doesn't mean he didn't love her

[@madiwallace6706]

I agree!!!

[@tutran6592]

I see u in every nessa and jaden drama video LMAO

[@tonigrace2.0]

It’s sad how he’ll blame mads for everything but is oblivious to the truth

[@jjan2383]

what truth ?

[@idk7z]

“HeS bEiNg So MaTuRe”

[@danielcude9475]

@@idk7z he is

[@heatherxtherese]

I think he just really really loves Nessa and Jaden... it's so sad.. so he doesn't want to believe that she did anything out of disrespect

[@Ashley-ju8pc]

exactly he's not actually blaming the ones that should be blamed , he just keeps slandering mads which is sad :/

[@marsuniverse2996]

Josh needs to apologize to mads that’s fucked up and she is hurting as well . He is treating nessa and jxdn with a higher respect . Give us the same energy you gave chase.

[@ioannakarali6950]

I feel like the only immature here is honestly josh. He’s trying to make excuses for his fn “best friend ” and “girlfriend” that literally betrayed him cause they didn’t get with each other while they were on their relationships but does that make it ANY better? Omg mads has eaten shit for months now she has all the rights to talk publicly about it and then leave them with their fake ass life bruh I’m fn mad.

[@unzilaisdumb]

he's only like this cuz he's mad abt Mads bringing the drama on social media, it's smth personal and should hv been kept private amongst them 4.

[@tobsgaming2630]

Shut up

[@lin9688]

No not should they are single and no one cheated

[@brooklynn4952]

@@unzilaisdumb no but low-key jaden and nessa are out having public dinners and making out, mads just brought it to light before they did. She got the opportunity to put her side out there and being heard. gotta respect that

[@zendishadogan8791]

can we just appreciate Griffin for being there for Josh

[@giannasavino6601]

it’s also kinda funny how griffin said “nobody’s loyal blah blah” when he cheated on dixie lol

[@applesamsung4944]

@@giannasavino6601 can y’all please let go of the griffin and Dixie situation? Griffin has proved to all of us he has definitely matured and learned from the situation and he’s been super unproblematic these days so just chill. Their relationship wasn’t that serious in the first place and Dixie kinda cheated in a way too. She kept going to Malibu with Noah even when she was dating griffin and griffin wasn’t rly comfortable with it either.

[@ramatalents1128]

@@byronlove8537 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@danielleturay3816]

@@giannasavino6601 right that's what i'm saying...he's probably thinking it's not me on the hot seat now

[@sal7448]

@@giannasavino6601 that is funny but he definitely matured from this

[@rachelnorton3171]

I’m sorry, I fully support josh, but he’s blinded by love. Mads said that the voice recordings confirmed that they had a moment while mads and Jaden were dating. There was something for more than 2 weeks

[@thaliap3125]

Yep 💯💯

[@jaylaaa1974]

It’s seems likes Josh keeps saying stuff about mads but he didn’t even listen to the thing

[@danielwatson8358]

This is something they didn’t bring up that should’ve been.... not only saying they had some kind of previous moment, but the sketchiest part is it seems their managers were pushing them together

[@ashleysaavedra8445]

Exactly!!!

[@rachelnorton3171]

@@jaylaaa1974 yessss like she actually has ss, I feel bad for her. Fully support josh, but he needs to look at it for what it really is

[@lonewolf4783]

Who is gonna tell josh that even if mads didn’t post it the paparazzi would find them and it would still be on social media

[@halleann6495]

The only issue I have is that Josh still is treating Jaden and Nessa with a crap ton of respect (which they don’t deserve) and won’t even say they did anything wrong directly yet he will call out Mads, an eighteen year old who was pissed off, who posted a shady video on tiktok.

[@abundantlyinaglo]

he acts like they got halo’s on their heads when they’re the ones who screwed him over. whether made brought it to social media or not it doesn’t change the fact that they betrayed him.

[@bismarana9691]

This 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@abundantlyinaglo]

*mads

[@christinaa5003]

He really loves Jaden and Nessa which makes him want to protect them I think

[@baileymullaly9298]

Yes!!!!

[@reesekennedy6965]

It’s really embarrassing how hard he is having Nessa and Jadens back.. Josh needs to open his eye 😭

[@reesekennedy6965]

@Diamond Star Ik I feel horrible mads is trying to help and she’s going through the same thing as him... and he shading her like wtf

[@dayanariverraa5918]

Yea and shaming the one person that thought about his feelings throughout the whole thing and tried to tell him.

[@milonilo5981]

@Diamond Star 100% he ist sooo blinded by love

[@joanserumola6070]

I just don’t understand it.. he is just mad at Mads, like wtf dude..!!!

[@wayneb9463]

They must have something on him. Only way it makes sense

[@jocelynarreguin90]

He's mad at how Mads brought it to social media and made the TikTok but when Nessa and Chase kissed he made a whole distrack and brought it to social media?!!

[@tiffany8493]

He loves to pick and choose lmao. Just like how he wanted to fight Chase, yet he's not keeping the same energy for Jaden. He's in denial and it's honestly sad.

[@jordyn5356]

yeah bc he cheated on nessa so he can’t really say anything bad.

[@zigzagpickle]

The distrack was made a year ago and he’s changed more as a person. From experiencing all last year, he’s now growing up from his past actions

[@Discipline-Diligence]

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[@alisiasadler]

frr like Mads was trying to tell him everything that was going on and instead he didn’t believe her, called her crazy and had to find out the truth online

[@jasmineazuan549]

No cause I’m literally raging. Mads had nobody to talk abt it abt. Even Josh didn’t believe her. Can you imagine reacting to your boyfriend saying “ I don’t like you anymore, I like her “ like pls. Josh had no right victim blaming. Mads was so mature in the podcast. I literally want to punch him to snap in reality ffs

[@imbetter9129]

He was so in love with Nessa that he can’t blame her, he’s really just hurt. Don’t be mad at either.

[@imbetter9129]

@@byronlove8537 he only bashed her in the beginning when literally everyone thought she was crazy, but now all he said was that he wished she wouldn’t have brought it out in that matter

[@vvthetalentlessduo6976]

Yep

[@user-io6he7dh6e]

people saying he’s hurt like lmfao who gives a shit bro that doesn’t give you the right to hate on mads who was also hurting and she was doing rhe right thing

[@rebmoe14]

Agreed

[@anushraz]

the fact that josh keeps on saying that this entire situation needs to be handled offline and keeps blaming Mads is kinda annoying. Yeah Mads brought it to the internet with that tiktok but nobody would have known that jaden and nessa are in a relationship if THEY hadnt made it public. Also this is Josh's third time speaking on this on his podcast. Literally everyone involved has brought it online multiple times but the only one being blamed is Mads when she was actually right.

[@stephaniepolakoff8085]

the fact that josh has been handling this entire mess offline and not on social media is so mature and that takes a lot of strength. major respect

[@bebeerin]

not really offline when he puts it on bffs but last pod he said he got permission from nessa so there's that

[@mmatakespodcast1idiot793]

Stephanie can we be friends

[@Taylor-lb7qm]

Oh my god how many comments are you going to post 😂

[@lilly4182]

This is like ur 10 comment 😭

[@aaliyahho]

bruh how many comments...

[@samanthat9997]

Josh genuinely should apologize to mads. She tried to reach out to josh and he basically called her crazy. She had every right to expose them. Josh doesn’t want any heat on nessa and jaden but didn’t care that everyone was calling mads crazy and getting a ton of heat.

[@annawilliams2538]

True, but from his perspective his best friends ex was texting him and he didnt believe her because how could he predict that his girlfriend and best friend would do that to him, it didn't make any sense at the time. He should apologize tho, he just needs some time, cuz this is a lot.

[@laviniaibiapino9952]

@@annawilliams2538 yeah, but even now, that he knows she is right, he keeps trying to blame her. it’s hard for him, and 2x harder for her.

[@palakbhardwaj6721]

So true

[@RM-cu2fc]

It isn’t his fault. He was probably in so much denial plus you would believe your best friend and Close ex girlfriend over your best friends ex

[@samanthat9997]

@@RM-cu2fc yeah but NOW that he knows the truth he’s still basically bashing mads?

[@avameader745]

I feel really bad for mads cuz it seems like she is being targeted in this 🙄😭

[@avameader745]

@annag cocl ikr I think they have dirt on him or something that could end his career cuz mads really didn't do anything wrong in my opinion

[@shellshock8505]

She’s immature asf and certainly acted like it on the call her daddy podcast. She aired out all their private information making Josh’s life 10x harder. She was that desperate for someone to talk to that she had to announce it to the internet before even talking to anyone privately. She’s immature asfffff

[@daltondwightsaints550]

I think she should be she’s started all of this drama when it could have been handled way better than a TikTok of all places and that’s why she’s receiving heat

[@avameader745]

@@daltondwightsaints550 yh I agree but he keeps on saying it like we get it and I get maybe he says the thing about mads once or twice in an interview and the rest about Jaden and Ness but he never talks about them only mads

[@avameader745]

@@shellshock8505 yh but no lol

[@meg8294]

If Josh can use the excuse of “we’re 19” to justify Ness and Jadens inconsiderate decisions, you’d think he’d show Mads the same grace

[@myaallen4290]

this is the one!

[@juliet9357]

it seems like he’s taking his hurt and frustration out on mads. which i absolutely do not get.

[@sweettea4299]

bru, mads craving for attention. It's no one business but theirs🤷🏽‍♀️

[@meg8294]

In Hollywood one could argue that who you date has a direct effect on your career... Jaden and Ness being together looks great for their song and builds hella clout. So let’s not pretend like anything about their relationship would’ve been private regardless lol

[@hitemup411]

What if josh is gay... and that’s why he’s been cool with them hooking up the whole time and it’s all a persona to make him seem straight and he’s too afraid to come out.. my friends older brother in Cali who’s gay said he was really close to josh when he first moved to LA

[@l00c55]

Wtf is up with Josh...Nessa must have a lot of dirt on him lmao. Mads has every right to be "crazy" Jaden and Nessa are heartless. Mads and Jaden were dating less than 2 months ago and now Jaden & Nessa are seen being lovey-dovey IN PUBLIC which honestly makes me sick to my stomach for Mads. Can't even imagine how badly Mads heart must be hurting.

[@deborah1519]

i feel like nessa and jaden are holding something above his head.

[@jamiekreisel2693]

@@deborah1519 i think the thing is Jaden went to jail for Josh and he doesn't want to be dragging them through the dirt or anything like that because he still feels for them

[@hayaloay366]

@@jamiekreisel2693 but we all know bryce was the one who took the blame for Josh, jaden had his own Marijuana on him and would've gone to jail anyway, Josh had drugs on him too and he was only 18 so he would get deported back to Canada, bryce took the blame for him not jaden

[@maxlolz4788]

@@hayaloay366 yes thank you like why is Jaden lying about going to jail for josh when he didn’t Bryce even told the cops that he gave it to josh

[@maxlolz4788]

I think josh is so hurt that he is blaming everyone but nessa bc if he brings down Jaden that’s like being down nessa an he unfollowed Jaden on Instagram so why is he lying I think this is also about chase but Ik josh doesn’t truly feel this way

[@chiarapazos369]

I get that josh is trying to be mature and really respect that, but he is still treating mads like she´s crazy and dismissing her feelings and that´s really fucked up

[@michellebrown3107]

That’s really immature how he’s dismissing her valid feelings and he’s quite in denial too. On the contrary Mads podcast was quite well spoken and mature.

[@TheChristine45678]

Totally. I really respect how he talked about Mads and Jaden, but how he talked about Mads isn't okay. Just because she choose to handle it in a different way doesn't mean her feelings are invalid. Not everyone can handle things in such a healthy mature way but that doesn't make her crazy.

[@ryanhayes8035]

I think he’s just mad that they we she handled meant that the world had an opinion was aware of the situation before him almost and it’s him that’s affected by it so he didn’t have a chance to process it which is understandable

[@TheChristine45678]

@@ryanhayes8035 I think that it would be more appropriate to have this energy towards Nessa and Jaden as they quite literally are the ones making the dilemma for Mads to even post about. Like it or not, Mads and Josh are going through the same thing he just chose to handle it differently. He can't punish just her for her reaction to what the other two did. You can't judge someone by their reaction to something you've done to hurt them..

[@michellehenderson6349]

i feel the same but at the same time we still don’t know all about it and there is probably more that we don’t know .

[@pallavijoshi89]

Love how grif kept looking at josh keeping an eye on his emotions n feelings when everyone was talking

[@WuMyth]

For everyone calling Josh 'mature'... he aint... he NAIVE, he still shading Mads. His mindset is still that this is all her fault, that's why he cant seem to recognise the fault of Ness and Jaden

[@ischristinaok]

exactly he thinks mads is the issue but its not her fault jaden and nessa we’re gonna get exposed anyway they’re so fucking obvious it’s not mads fault

[@user-er7wi9yb3i]

He’s definitely in denial

[@abundantlyinaglo]

I agree he’s not mature for painting them in a positive light after they screwed him and refusing to acknowledge mads pain when she’s the only one who tried to tell him and he called her crazy. literally 2 weeks ago he was talking about how he loves nessa and how they wouldn’t do that to him. only to find out everything he knew , he really didn’t and yet he still tries to paint them in a positive light as if he’s not the one they screwed over. Especially when when he went harder on chase for doing less with nessa. I’m not saying that he should go all ape shit but he can atleast take the time to be honest with himself.

[@delaneymackey6360]

YUPPP not at all... he started the “trend” of everyone calling mads crazy, then she publicly apologizes to him and says she loves him and he never meant to hurt him and here he is trashing her. its so fucking wrong

[@keishabryan6662]

yeaaaa he’s being very naive and almost blinded by his love for both of them but it’s so disrespectful and hurtful to mads to blame her. if anything he should be supporting mads since she’s going through a lot too. the fact that he continuously defends jaden and nessa makes me loose respect for him

[@allyshuler5708]

I feel so bad for Mads! She needs an apology from Josh. Like josh knew Nessa was like this but Mads has always been loyal to jaden.

[@rosieposie9728]

@Skylar Romano OFC she will be, Like look at what Jaden did to her? How u can not be insecure

[@jada5305]

@Skylar Romano its not tht easy bro

[@mydahazhar7978]

I think Josh is having a hard time admitting the fact that his best friend and ex girlfriend is at fault so he is blaming it on mads.

[@malia-rose]

truee

[@moonlightvibes767]

Yes!

[@2020girlygirl]

He is mad at all of them, but Mads brought it the media and he didn’t like that. Maybe changed his view on her.

[@jinnyham4081]

@@2020girlygirl yeah but it was gonna come out in media anyways lol. obviusly some paparazzi gonna spot jaden and nessa so why not now

[@lilyek9068]

@@2020girlygirl Yeah but its weird bcs when it happend w chase he did a disstrack about it but now he hates on Mads for it

[@danielamar1949]

He really doesn’t wanna accept the fact that his best friend really took his girl....😅

[@jamesanthony4946]

I thin its more he doesn't care. Nessa always came across as a user and a temporary thing, Josh always had his eyes elsewhere, if anything he's probably glad he gets out of this without being the bad guy! double result!

[@abeautifulmess163]

Fr, he blamed Mads when Jaden is honestly at fault

[@ahy1798]

Well watch prior videos. He has fanboyed Jaden constantly. Its ridiculous

[@anisaagolli659]

Facts

[@katb6548]

bruh mads genuinely apologized to josh and called herself out for doing that but he still is being so disrespectful towards her. I mean obviously theres more to this story than we know but honestly i think hes being so nice because the wound is still fresh.. lets see how he feels in a couple of weeks

[@joeydenise5274]

Factss

[@kiearapruitt5676]

I don’t think he’s really being disrespectful because she brought his private life to social media then got on a podcast and talked about it without his permission it’s his hurt too even if she did apologize he doesn’t have to like her

[@gcontrerass0191]

@@kiearapruitt5676 he brought the Chase situation into social media not caring how Chase felt...... But he gets mad when Mads bring it to social media???? I think he's just being a hypocrite.

[@jinnyham4081]

@@kiearapruitt5676 bruh its so obvious the only reason he trippin and being all blameful towards mads is because he probs cheated on nessa. the list chase made in july was obviously true. josh knows nessa ain't gonna shut her trap if he bashes her lmao and mads is hurt too. why are you acting like she don't have feeling?

[@kiearapruitt5676]

@@jinnyham4081 no one said that but most people are quick to come to her defense as they should but no one is saying how she told josh business to the world. People can be upset without being impulsive get real

[@georgiaturner2828]

Dave: “I won’t shit on nessa cause she’s a teenage girl” Also Dave: calls Mads crazy, jealous and insane

[@komaltoor5517]

Frrr like wtff

[@lynchtv6124]

I agree everyone should apologize to mads but mads is also a legal adult bc she is 18 and nessa is a teenager still

[@lynchtv6124]

Nvm nessa is 18 too

[@gnav4]

Mads is actually younger than Nessa

[@katbaby]

@@lynchtv6124 nobody cares about nessa that 🐍

[@ibukunbanjo5580]

Josh didn’t give Mads the chance to talk, he called her crazy...so you can’t blame it on her. She tried to tell you and you shamed her. So she came to social media with it. She wasn’t being immature, she felt like that was her only option.

[@thaliap3125]

Agreed

[@annielewis6151]

I Agree

[@annielewis6151]

Exactly

[@katiesinisa5719]

period

[@miahalmaraz8755]

but on the other hand she could’ve tried harder to tell him and let him know she tried to call but she could’ve don’t much more and if it’s personal she shouldn’t have taken it to the media no matter what

[@bbyxedits9979]

I completely agree with Dave on that nessa and jaden shouldn’t have gone to a public dinner if they were trying to keep it offline

[@msc4190]

Mads had every right to bring it online when no one would answer her offline. She knew what Nessa was capable of and the fact that she is getting more criticism for being right about her best friend and boyfriend not being platonic is weird. Nessa is shady and always has been

[@taybae4890]

seriously it’s lowkey upsetting me because i feel like josh is blaming her more than than nessa and jaden when they’re the ones that violated him.

[@jackieluna]

thank youuu everyone in this situation is weird af except for mads

[@ingridsanchez7942]

Not the every right , they should’ve handled all of this offline 🤣 it was hella dumb to bring it online in the first place , it’s like them middle school kids that be posting “single now 😞” on there Snapchat story , childish asf

[@user-yh6eq5cc9i]

It doesn't excuse anything but they definitely weren't best friends

[@msc4190]

@@ingridsanchez7942 well she is literally a child so.....

[@aadhyapatel8604]

It's funny how josh is calling Mads immature when they are completely ignoring what Nessa keeps on doing coz she's "young"

[@Isabella-eo5kn]

Ikr and besides, Mads is the youngest of the four. she is also just a Human who makes mistakes and isn't perfect.

[@fly2292]

Let's not forget that in July, when mads wanted to come with N*ssa to the hype house N*ssa told her "no. No one wants you here. No one likes you". Like tf? And when the truth was out that n*ssa kissed chase, miss girl called mads crying saying "take the blame for me or else, say you kissed chase not me. My relationship with Josh is going somewhere but Your relationship with Jaden is going no where". Which is proof that n*ssa is a manipulative bitch

[@user-eo9to7wd2t]

@@fly2292 Wow I didn’t know that she did that. Nessa really does sound manipulative. I feel like she uses her depression as a cover. When she does something wrong she blames it on her being “sad”

[@xeilaveiga7485]

Bc hes in love with her still

[@annisaala1358]

@@user-eo9to7wd2t exactly she used her health mental card for an excuse

[@stephaniepolakoff8085]

josh has such a supportive team behind him that’s like family between brianna, dave, michael, griffin, kio, and more

[@kaylenhaleighconnors722]

I wish dave was my dad

[@katemarks7895]

@@kaylenhaleighconnors722 same

[@spongebob468]

How many times you gonna comment 💀

[@amaim23]

@@kaylenhaleighconnors722 weird

[@reillyjames8128]

Bryce hall too

[@anniewest7981]

it makes me wanna cry seeing how much y’all love josh. he deserves that ❤️

[@JWVideos22]

Josh needs to realize how much hate he brought to Mads. Labeling a woman crazy sticks. I do understand that he wanted it private tho, but she was coping with it in her own way.

[@michellebrown3107]

exactly and she was already attacked for being “crazy” when she told the truth he didn’t have to add fuel to the fire. Plus, she did reach out to him before putting it on social media and it’s not like this won’t be in the public eye if only Mads didn’t go public with it. It’s bound to be public eventually.

[@Baskonia777]

She did that to herself. Way before Josh did the follow up podcast

[@haveagooddaytodayy227]

Exactly ! Also she showed so much maturity in the call her daddy podcast she was on I have so much respect for her for being able to admit she could have gone about the tiktok thing differently and she even apologized to josh and here he is making it seem like it’s just her fault

[@greysanatomy4life606]

yeah except she aired all of his business to the public, and forced him to be emotionally vulnerable and embarrassed WITHOUT his consent. i would be pissed asf too

[@deez9966]

@@greysanatomy4life606 nessa n jaden are to blame lmao they backstabbed him and are out kissing in front of papparazi telling them their a couple making videos together whats embarrassing is your best fucking friend who saw ur girl cheat on you goes and gets with her

[@haleymagill4511]

jaden & nessa def have dirt on josh & are holding it over his head bc there’s no way he’s actually this chill & nice abt this situation & STILL tryna blame mads. something’s off, there’s no way we know the full story

[@tziganelatter1853]

literally ! like I might have believed it but not after how he reacted to the same thing with Chase only a year ago :/

[@AA-um9zy]

Def. josh cheated on nessa that’s why he said in the beginning that he basically wasn’t the best boyfriend and made mistakes. Chase said it last year and it’s been confirmed by multiple people all of chases accusations were correct so that’s def why josh doesn’t wanna say anything lol

[@haleymagill4511]

@@AA-um9zy yup. i think he didn’t wanna say anything that could make him a hypocrite

[@abundantlyinaglo]

@@AA-um9zy him cheating definitely wasn’t cool on any level. but, two wrongs don’t make a right. chase revealed that info a while ago and it’s confirmed not not even less than a month ago nessa was in josh’s bed. so they’ve obviously moved on from that and what she / jaden are doing now doesn’t invalid his feelings any less. i get him not wanting to sound like a hypocrite though.

[@jordyn5356]

he cheated on nessa.

[@talyafaith239]

I’m CONVINCED that josh is guilty of something bc there is no way he would be sticking up for nessa and jaden after all they did. They have some black mail on him and he has to keep his mouth shut or they will air him out alll over the internet. Nessa even tweeted herself “y’all don’t know the whole story and probably never will because the truth hurts” & he’s mad at mads bc she brought it to the internet making it easier for his shit to get air out as well. IM TELLING U THIS HAS TO BE IT

[@Dumbedorewashere]

WAIT you’re on to something...

[@jasreetgill3918]

@@Dumbedorewashere I feel so too...

[@amaliarosa4152]

But then again josh def has dirt on them so I don’t know

[@jennahunter2968]

And that’s TOTALLY in her character too, remember she tried to force mads to take blame for cheating with chase

[@francescabacon]

@@jennahunter2968 YUPP

[@geharadesilva8816]

Josh is so mature and did anyone notice how Griffin kept glancing at Josh from time to time looking concerned and daringly.

[@johnjungkook2721]

He's not mature, he's embarrassed and he's just trying to look unbothered.

[@stephaniepolakoff8085]

who else is in college or older yet is so invested in this drama

[@lindseycampbell4271]

Me plus I need to pay attention this will be in Curtis's next Kahoot and I want that $100

[@astridcaridad7113]

lmao me the tea is just too interesting

[@lifewithcassandradawn]

I’m a year out of college and I’m invested 😂

[@sophiadup]

Me too girl lol you aren’t alone!

[@ethanhoang5770]

Portnoy’s got us caring about tik tok drama

[@marm.6178]

Josh is mad at mads for bringing it online but when she tried to call him and talk to him about it he just ignored her or was dry about it... like he said he wanted to handle it privately but he didn’t. Like dude what did you think Mads was gonna do. She literally apologized and he’s acting like she’s the villain in this whole thing and it’s annoying I would be soooo frustrated if I was mads.

[@intmlives]

Exactly

[@reeyawhabi363]

yeah and how is he defending nessa and jaden and is directing his anger to mads instead of them? and where was this energy when the chase and nessa thing happened?

[@zH3H3z]

He’s grieving. He’s lost two of his favorite people, it’s almost like a death. He is in the stage of denial, let him cope at the pace he needs to. It won’t take him long to understand it wasn’t mads fault. You have to realize that it takes time to learn, some lessons aren’t just instant. Have sympathy

[@ImBirk]

Yeah and he was implying how pissed he would be last episode if things ended up being true too and switched up this episode. It's fine if he wants to handle it maturely but he shat on mads too much. I respect both of em though and hope they can get thru this however they need to

[@reeyawhabi363]

@@zH3H3z true

[@vanessav6960]

He’s so quick to turn on mads and call her crazy when she was just trying to give him a heads up about what was happening between jaden and nessa, yet so hesitant on saying anything negative about both jaden and nessa...

[@delaneymackey6360]

FRRR ITS SO GROSS

[@sunflower-jv2tp]

Chase said Josh cheated on Nessa multiple times on his list last year and everything else on that list have been proven to be true. He's just scared Nessa will expose him.

[@sweettea4299]

maybe he loves Jaden & Nessa more than madz so like he's a lil confused

[@necromancer6199]

you gotta understand that this whole thing has quite literally turned his life upside down, the two people who he trusted and loved the most just the ultimate reverse card on him. naturally, his mind's gotta be a fucking mess rn idk that's just my opinion though

[@greysanatomy4life606]

she wasn’t giving him a heads up, she blindsided him lmfao

[@BelaFernandez]

this is such a weird podcast dynamic cause of odd combo of hosts lol

[@zswift1382]

the lack of empathy towards mads is disgusting. mads literally cried apologizing to him even when she was right this whole time and he called her crazy. he focused on the fact that she brought it online when he didn’t even wanna listen to her privately?? he’s so sus he def did something idc i don’t feel bad for him anymore.

[@alleeexx8280]

Its not disgusting he just doesnt like her and i think she could have kept it off the internet

[@deez9966]

totally agree, and mads was cheated on before and forgave him, she's just as hurt if not way more than josh, bashing her is so insensitive and wrong. i think josh is excusing them because he's cheated himself.

[@kiearapruitt5676]

He just don’t like her and he don’t have too. He didn’t really say anything mean about her he just probably don’t give a duck about her like that. Just because she’s right don’t mean people have to like her.

[@zswift1382]

@@kiearapruitt5676 it’s not about liking her or not it’s about respect !! he literally called her crazy when she was telling the truth and he’s not even sorry about it. and the way he’s asking people to not hate on jaden and nessa but he’s fully dissing mads is sooo sus he definitely did something i don’t feel bad for him anymore he’s literally more mad at mads than the people who betrayed him that says A LOT

[@zswift1382]

@@alleeexx8280 she wouldn’t have posted it if they listened to her when she tried to reach out to them privately also it’s not about liking her or not it’s about respect !! he literally called her crazy when she was telling the truth and he’s not even sorry about it. and the way he’s asking people to not hate on jaden and nessa but he’s fully dissing mads is sooo sus he definitely did something i don’t feel bad for him anymore he’s literally more mad at mads than the people who betrayed him that says A LOT

[@brittanyselvidge1517]

Josh and Bryce wrote a diss track about Chase kissing Nessa but so calm about his best friend getting with his girl? 🤯

[@holywater2952]

That was in 2020. They grew up. You can't accept that tho, can you?

[@sabrinaskii]

@@holywater2952 bro their just saying calm down jeez

[@victoriamarie2725]

I think it’s a combination of personal growth and the severity of the situation. With the whole chase situation, it was someone that Josh didn’t like that came for his girlfriend. He was just angry and it was more like “wtf”. With Jaden and Nessa, these were the two closest people to him that he feels completely betrayed by. I think there’s an entirely different level of feeling hurt and betrayal with this one. It’s probably difficult for Josh to even accept and either way he probably doesn’t want to speak ill of his former best friend and girlfriend who he thought he was gonna marry. So at the end of the day I think it’s just a response to annoyance/anger (chase) compared to a response to betrayal/hurt (Jaden).

[@kazkilos]

suspicious

[@Angela-mh6ye]

@@sabrinaskii I think they are just staying out of the drama u know

[@classisthekey7792]

Why blame Mads? She is a girl who was hurt by her ex best friends and boyfriend she didnt do anything wrong???? Mads was brave enough to tell her story and show how she feels, she even apologized for hurting Josh with the video. Why is he still more mad on Mads than Jaden and Nessa. 😟

[@soicancommentonvideo]

mads isn't owed any loyalty from him, youre calling her brave, she was overly emotional and said her piece, thats it. he doesnt owe her anything

[@classisthekey7792]

@@soicancommentonvideo he does not owe her anything thats true but he also should not blame her, because she is in the same position as him, she really loved Jaden and it was hard for her she didnt do anything wrong

[@soicancommentonvideo]

@@classisthekey7792 he has to deal with all of this publicly because of her. while he barely knows how he feels about it himself. she acted selfishly and he has to deal with the consequences. "it was hard for her" Im sure its not easy for him either but hes dealing with it so much better, im sure theres a lack of respect towards her

[@kallaielle]

@@soicancommentonvideo ......bruh

[@pughmolina]

@@soicancommentonvideo they weren’t telling him anything before she made it public. He only knows now because she stopped giving Jaden the option to keep lying about the situation. Either way he is obviously putting more words against mads than his best friend who hurting him and continuing to lie about it after. I’m not saying he should be grateful to mass or anything, but if he didn’t have anything to say about was Nessa and jaden did, there’s nothing to say about mads either.

[@evalinafrances3875]

Nah josh is just in denial the whole time. Dave is straight up telling him they have proof of shit and he is just like nah it was a kiss on the head. Baby open up your eyes.

[@user-nc2wq7ik5c]

I feel like Nessa has something on him maybe he cheated on her or sum and if he gets mad at her or expose her she will expose him as well.

[@amal.k10606]

@@user-nc2wq7ik5c EXACTLY

[@matttheycanfly1610]

He’s too sad and in denial. He just doesn’t want it to be true because he loved her. A couple days before the whole drama he was talking about how he’d marry Nessa and then all of a sudden Jaden and Nessa are just all of a sudden a thing. I know how it feels but hopefully he gets back on track and can be himself and happier

[@miaclark3448]

@@user-nc2wq7ik5c nessa just revealed Josh did cheat and she insinuated in her EP he probably physically hurt her too. Def a lot more we don’t know about. If anything jaden is the only one who “betrayed” Josh

[@syeshahek4538]

Mads was so mature on the podcast she apologized to josh and Josh is still blaming her for posting the tiktok. Like the people would have known anyway if they see the 2 together She's only 18!!!!!! IMAGINE THE SHIT SHE GOING THROUGH

[@liyaparis]

Yeah and if mads didn't post the video people would have continued to call her crazy. She just defends herself

[@Allison-bl2fi]

She’s childish

[@iceygirls8068]

@@Allison-bl2fi Like your mother lol I see alot of people do that on Tiktok and y'all support them but because she's a tiktoker y'all don't

[@syeshahek4538]

@@iceygirls8068 what are you saying?

[@syeshahek4538]

@@liyaparis yea

[@samr2145]

Kinda dumb on josh part saying he didn’t like that mads brought it online umm she literally told i him first through text and he didn’t wanna believe it until it blew up online 💀

[@delaneyjones8040]

FACTS

[@jessicachurch3850]

DEADASS

[@stephaniepolakoff8085]

i’ve lost so much respect for nessa and jaden over the past 48 hours. they aren’t even trying to hide it like it’s almost as if they’re deliberately hurting josh and mads

[@evacardoso7578]

i never liked nessa from the very beginning but jaden really surprised me. i would’ve never expected this from him. my respect for him is down the drain.

[@anipooran]

NESSA LOVES breaking up people Nd she HURT JOSH the most and i never ever EXPECTED THIS FROM JADEN istg like wtf is wrong with them and no one believed mads

[@instinctgaming7915]

maybe bc its a publicity stunt???

[@peterjoke9499]

what did they do?

[@pattycastro9610]

Same

[@reeyawhabi363]

broo mads called him to tell him and when he didn't respond she did what she had to do and brought it to social media like any other girl would and not everyone can be as mature as josh LMFAO

[@kajamonita]

How could mads keep it offline when no one answered her messages, and it would be public soon anyways. Stop calling her crazy for being emotional when her boyfriend was acting sus. Her intuition about Jaden and Nessa was obviously true

[@aliciamcgifford7249]

Oh yeah because josh wouldn't hear her out and she said on the podcast that the only one replying to her messages was jaden so it would make her go crazy keeping it to herself

[@marilouchixx]

literally lol, i wouldve gone nuts if my bestfriend goes out with my boyfriend, just thinking abt it it makes me mad

[@purpleriri7757]

exactly..and the video that she did...we the public would have edited and make the SAME one..WHY? because its fucking obvious this is the most f shit ever and who is living their best lives? MISS NESSA AND JADEN

[@piadoorasavest2457]

@@marilouchixx but you wouldnt go online and post shit to bash others

[@monilove4088]

@@piadoorasavest2457 I would’ve ,many would’ve .Let me remind you these people are teens to young adults.They will mess up and act childish at one point that’s the point of growing.So yes someone there age would have done the exact same thing Mads did out of anger and hurt.

[@matthewshoetay]

Dave is acting like this is a damn murder case and I love it Edit: I’ve gotten 50 new subs thank you guys!

[@julybody]

Your channel is funny bro lol check him out

[@matthewshoetay]

@@julybody thanks man !

[@cherb8ar]

HAHAHAHA

[@malloryjohnson6094]

But they were ok with dragging Lil Huddy for kissing her yet Jaden, his best friend, has a full on relationship and it’s no big deal?? Like whaaaat

[@aminraza601]

They were together at the time that's why. But now they aren't and Jaden dated her after she broke up with Josh

[@makaylagray2553]

None of them were together Chase wasn't with Charli and Nessa wasn't with Chase

[@katbaby]

@@aminraza601 no they weren’t they were on a break

[@jiannaanai]

It was a while ago, yk? More time to mature

[@marielarecinos7883]

I feel like he has just matured a bit now so he doesn't want to make anything more of a big deal. this is just my opinion doe.

[@caitlinmcgahon721]

josh is being so mature about the whole thing 🥺 he’s the best

[@estefanierosales5201]

He needs publicly apologize to Mads he's disrespectful towards her. Not everyone reacts the same in a break up ..he acting all High mighty but end day he may not admit now but he does not like them ( maybe he is in shocks)

[@meee9889]

It’s so crazy how the energy is different between the chase situation and Jaden and nessa... the way josh made sooo many digs at chase who owed him no loyalty and he can’t even admit the fact that Jaden and nessa were selfish and malicious like come on dude... the way mads apologised to him EVEN THOUGH SHE DIDNT HAVE TO and he can’t even get simply acknowledge her hurt... I’m not hating on josh I’m just baffled

[@user-er7wi9yb3i]

Lol He’s also in denial about it all

[@Discipline-Diligence]

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[@michellebrown3107]

Me too, Mads reached out to Josh before going to social media. Josh didn’t pick up her calls and believed Jaden of her when he lied. Josh implied he thought she was crazy too on an older podcast when she wasn’t. And he’s still out here putting all the blame on Mads and defending Jaden and Mads like come on

[@carolannie15]

It’s called growth

[@sunflower-jv2tp]

Chase said Josh cheated on Nessa multiple times on his list last year and everything else on that list have been proven to be true. He's just scared Nessa will expose him if he didn't defend her.

[@allyst.laurent4148]

GRIFFIN IS SO CUTE HOW HE IS STARING AT JOSH LIKE CHECKING IN ON HIM

[@trinitystout7812]

Josh is the definition of love is blind

[@yashiraimar]

She was handling it private & trying to reach Josh to tell him before she went to the media. He literally referred to her as crazy for putting all this online, she did cause everyone was literally ignoring her. They definitely have some dirt on him, to mature & to nice, kinda sus.

[@totallybeomgyu1902]

exactly wth is wrong with josh

[@nychijabi0518]

That’s because when jaden and mads broke up jaden told him something and ofc he believed it. And when mads tired to call him he found it weird. He loves jaden so he believed him

[@taptisharma911]

Considering how they reacted when the same thing happened with lil huddy they acted like he was his brother or something who backstabbed josh but when his legit best friend does the same thing he’s being this calm it’s damn sus

[@nychijabi0518]

@@taptisharma911 he grew up and matured over the last year which is good. I think he learned not to put his emotions on the media

[@aprillee6566]

exactly and now he’s calling her immature on the podcast that’s fked up

[@tarawxoxo]

Josh keeps blaming Mads for bringing it to social media first when she literally didn't, poor kid is so blinded and he's going to go through different stages of heartbreak he's calm right now but that will change. He seems very mature but he needs to realize what Jaden and nessa did to him and mads.

[@ava.pgst28]

yes and I love how you get that he is being like blindsided in a way and not going in on him because he is probably hurting I see so much of that

[@kei-ahmarshall6559]

technically she did bring it to social media because she made the tiktok and then deleted it but then went on the podcast, but he should not blame her or call her out of her name. i understand that regardless it would have been in the media because nessa and jaden aren't hiding it. however, i think without inner details it wouldn't have been as dramatic idk.

[@91mercedez]

@@kei-ahmarshall6559 yes he should like why would you put that on air like that's messed up i don't care how hurt she was that's messed up

[@kei-ahmarshall6559]

@@91mercedez well i think if i was 18 and the internet was calling me a “crazy obsessed ex gf” without knowing an inch of the truth i would probably react the same way. it’s not the best decision to make but i understand where she is coming from.

[@91mercedez]

@@kei-ahmarshall6559 and thats why you don't put your life on social media but its still wrong for her put it on the internet she made things worse

[@WuMyth]

Somehow after all this... Josh still villainised Mads and 'nothing but love' for Nessa and Jaden... Unreal

[@user-er7wi9yb3i]

He’s in complete denial and it’s easier to point the finger at her and say she’s the “bad guy” it’ll hit him later

[@sunflower-jv2tp]

Chase said Josh cheated on Nessa multiple times on his list last year and everything else on that list have been proven to be true. He's probably just scared Nessa will expose him if he didn't defend her.

[@chasewimbish9137]

@@sunflower-jv2tp didn’t even think about that

[@haveagooddaytodayy227]

Exactly ! I hope mads receives an apology especially after she apologized to him on the call her daddy podcast

[@alleeexx8280]

U already said that

[@plsshutupibegkfu]

still convinced that josh is chill about this bc he n bryce are dropping still softish pt 2 and it’s gonna be fire

[@havanawade4976]

josh is so blindsided wow. it's like nessa and jadan are using josh because they new he wasn't going to be publicly mad at them

[@shelbyrobinson8077]

i feel so bad for josh . but he needs to stop blaming mads she’s in the same boat as him she’s heartbroken to. they should be there for eachother not pointing the finger.

[@therealtalia9782]

Exactly ! He sitting here blaming Mads when his BROTHER/Bestfriend is with a girl he is inlove With🥱 like huh he’s not making sense

[@winter_blix]

Fr

[@tooterstillman9060]

But think about it if you were in his shoes you would really want to believe your bsf and not his ex

[@applesamsung4944]

Period

[@unzilaisdumb]

He is only blaming her for bringing this shit in front of millions of people

[@immasavage341]

We want Mads here! It’s clear that she knows more than Josh and Josh is still in denial!! We want to know her side of the story

[@hayaloay366]

Honestly I would be scared if she was on here, this podcast can be so one sided, and I feel like it would just be chaos and they would low-key bully her, except griffin

[@julia-gi8og]

@@hayaloay366 yh I agree

[@theresamatola4361]

she’s been on the call her daddy podcast, listen to that

[@immasavage341]

@@theresamatola4361 yeah I can’t find it anywhere, I mean the whole video 😢

[@immasavage341]

@@hayaloay366 I feel like Dave would be on her side thou

[@parise8511]

Josh went harder on mads in the podcasts about the drama then he has on the real people that have hurt him in this way and not one apology to her lmao

[@jemv3412]

He thought it was embarrasing. He wanted it to be kept offline so it could settle..

[@parise8511]

@@jemv3412 not so embarrassing for them to make multiple videos on this podcast about the situation. He’s choosing to also talk about it.

[@anne_6339]

Honestly i wasn't that butthurt over nessa and jaden but after listening to mads podcast it broke my heart. How can josh blame mads when his bestfriend literally is with his ex girlfriend that he's defended with anything she's done. Mads tried to contact him and he ran to jaden. She had every right to bring it on social media. They all have eachother and josh has all his friends but who was mads gonna tell, she basically has no one that is involved around this. I would've brought it to social media too lol.

[@ahgaseforever9664]

💯

[@elliana3103]

exactly

[@ashleyyhollistee8343]

Exactly they 100% have something up his head other wise he wouldn't be this calm

[@kiana5086]

I feel so bad for mads she literally had no one to tell):

[@auroralorenzo8857]

And she was defending herself. People were dragging her name on social media and she just wanted to give her side. She just wanted to give herself some love and feel good...

[@laviniaibiapino9952]

it’s not mads fault. she found out her boyfriend likes her ex best friend. it’s been two weeks since they broke up and he has tattos with nessa, wtf. josh is not the only person that’s is heartbroken. he called mads crazy and still tries to put the blame on her. i understand he wanted to handle offline, but she was always “the obsessed and jealous girlfriend” for the internet, and now everybody knows how hard it was for her.

[@deez9966]

ALL UR COMMENTS ARE SO TRUE UR SAYING EVERYTHING I WANNASAY \

[@NettyMtz01]

Josh is placing the blame more on mads for exposing them instead of his actual best friend and girlfriend for getting together and dating. This is happening to her too and she apologized.

[@lorynbellefleur3509]

For sure. I bet he is in denial about it

[@sydneywekstein9305]

@@lorynbellefleur3509 for sure

[@thaliap3125]

Yeah he needs to reevaluate that

[@megbee5880]

In the call her daddy podcast, mads placed a lot of blame on nessa and not jaden as well. That’s what people do when they still have so much love for people

[@mariahdominguez5682]

What?? Did you even watch what he said??? He didn’t even know about anything until she brought about it online, they didn’t even get to discuss it offline!!! Josh has every right to be mad. Poor guy can’t even be on his side without people feeling pity on him, it makes forgetting about breakup even slower

[@georgiacheaib6509]

the way griffin looks at josh just shows how much he cares

[@meganbray166]

why is everyone being so hard on mads? not everyone but mostly josh like yes she shouldnt have posted the tik tok but shes as hurt as josh in this situation she got screwed over too and i hope josh and mads can be there for eachother as friends bc they both deserve happiness and support

[@doraflores4682]

So josh is cool with Jaden and Nessa but still being hostile towards Mads? Why, she literally did what any girl would do in her situation. Sure the video was kinda wrong but she apologized for it.

[@delaneymackey6360]

FRRR... its so gross.

[@doraflores4682]

@@delaneymackey6360 josh is probably blinded by nessa's toxicity

[@Discipline-Diligence]

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[@michellebrown3107]

Right? They’re in the same position both of them betrayed. Why put Mads down? And Mads already got so much hate in the beginning for telling the truth and Josh being hostile will only allow some fans to continue blaming her.

[@doraflores4682]

@@michellebrown3107 yes and in the call me daddy podcast mads literally did not say anything that was some type of rude to josh.

[@caitlynashley7239]

i’m so sick of everyone blaming mads. she literally publicly apologized to josh & he’s still dragging her & blaming her when this has clearly been public before she even said anything she just was right & clearly no one wants to admit she was just right & not crazy all along. poor girl. josh needs to wake up.

[@haileeeyscoupa1781]

I feel so bad for josh! You can literally see how much it’s tearing him up inside.

[@bm-goodboy6367]

The kid is embarrassed. Two things, he wants this just to go away because the more people talk about the more humiliated he feels, and the reason he is being so nice is because he they played him and he feels stupid , it’s a defense mechanism..

[@kokobutter]

That’s true, or maybe nessa has something over him

[@nylahearl5003]

That or maybe Nessa has something over him. Because he keeps bashing Mads and pinning everything on her and after everything I’ve heard about the situation it seems that Nessa is pretty manipulative so I wouldn’t put it past her.

[@2020girlygirl]

Facts. They did him dirty and he just wants to move on.

[@brigoodsby5]

Yeah regardless of taking the “high road” and being the mature one. He has a very childish mindset over the situation. He’s still trying to make Mads the devil when she did nothing wrong in this situation. She’s atleast being honest about her emotions and not faking it to save face. She’s being real. Jaden and Nessa have both embarrassed and humiliated him and mads. Josh is just so immature he’ll hopefully look back at this when he’s mature and realize he handled it so wrong.

[@eljsii]

Or he just wants to Held is head high & go from this & not being the ”bad one” , they can be the bad ones & him just be like🤷‍♂️

[@munachisoemenalor2191]

jaden and nessa definitely has something on josh lmao...& why does he keep blaming mads..she had called him privately to talk and he didn’t want to. i feel so bad for her she’s definitely hurting too

[@LexiRobinson-mj5pw]

I think Chase was right in his Twitter post about Josh cheating on Nessa multiple times so he can’t say anything bad because he’s also in the wrong

[@everythingrightwithbts682]

@@LexiRobinson-mj5pw honestly chase been right the whole time- it’s crazy how we all shut him down about it but shit keeps happening the way he said it was

[@jenngolembeski1046]

It’s called she air their dirty laundry

[@emmabomanz6581]

I love how Griffin stares at Josh when Dave is talking to make sure he's okay. That real friendship right there

[@niyi1275]

No-one: Literally no-one in the world: Dave: Let's poke you further, Josh about the same thing over and over.

[@meetubaheti5790]

Even if mads didnt post the video or didn’t do the podcast, everyone would still find out and shade people because nessa and jaden are soo public

[@pooja8822]

Yeah but I think that’s what josh was saying. If mads didn’t post the vid and make the situation public then jaden and nessa wouldn’t have been public, they’re only doing to set their own narrative rather than people making assumptions based on just the mads video. Like if mads kept it private I think nessa and jaden would’ve kept it on the down low as well

[@makenziestastny]

i don't get why josh keeps being disrespectful to Mads but still respects nessa and jaden

[@OneDirection700]

right!

[@kennethbates8785]

Idk cause we still don’t know the full story but he definitely should apologize to her

[@angelalomeli8620]

Fr lyke wtf

[@lefilmss]

YES!!! It’s literally making me angry how much he’s blaming her for things? And being disrespectful in regards to her

[@CC-ku2hz]

Mads deserves better

[@hipolitatorres1007]

He’s calm because either Jaden or Nessa have dirt on him. He’s upset with Mads bc she bought it to social media and although she’s apologized for it, it just means he runs more risk of getting exposed for the times he’s cheated on nessa lol. Mads has nothing to lose, as much as she can portray to be crazy, I think she’s the real person who’s truly been hurt here.

[@jickylube2062]

Lol ooooo makes sense !!!

[@donutyy5831]

Maybe he doesnt want chase's allegation to be true and look like a dummy 😉

[@colletterodriguez2251]

I think he is acting fake, mads acted how a normal person that is hurting, Jads cheated on her and jad and nessa are both Acting like cheaters

[@nakirayoub463]

Or maybe he’s s just mature enough to act like this or to keep shit for him self and keep it private ,

[@soicancommentonvideo]

"has dirt on him" you're making up shit at this point

[@yahairatola1099]

Imagine blaming the only person that tried to have your back over the two people that did you dirty 🤧🤧 can’t relate

[@kayyanjali]

Mads is receiving unnecessary hate.. I mean i get it that Josh is in the middle of it and he is hurt but it's the same way for Mads why tf is she receiving so much hate for saying the truth.. I wish the very best to Mads and Josh and i hope they can sort things out because because of two people who don't care about them they should not ruin their friendship

[@macbookair3282]

he's deflecting onto mads and that's unfair it's completely not her fault and josh refuses to choose malice towards jaden and nessa in fear of losing them. he might seem like he's being mature but really he's so clueless they are full of it

[@billsleeper5567]

I shouldn't even care about any of this but here I am lmao I completely agree with you maybe there is not but it sure seems like there is something they have on Josh

[@drewhoran116]

He's so scared to lose the girl he's in love with and his best friend. But he needs to realize that they ARE NOT his friends, and they are both worth losing for the betterment of himself. No one who truly cares & respects you would do that to you. He feels mad and doesn't want to aim it on them so he chooses to aim the anger on Mads...?? He will look back and realized he was hella wrong

[@kymtrazahn8295]

Respect for Mads for sure. I’m glad they addressed acting like she is crazy. An apology definitely was needed