BG3 Rogue vs Ranger - Which Baldur's Gate 3 Class Should You Play?

Baldur's Gate 3 Rogue vs Ranger - Which BG3 Class Should You Play?
In this Baldur's Gate 3 video, I will be taking a look at the Ranger and Rogue classes and doing a direct comparison to them, this is the first video in a series of videos before launch where we go through different classes, usually two or three classes, and compare them. Helping narrow down for players what class they might want to play.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Baldur's Gate 3 Replayability Discussion
0:54 - Similarities and Differences of the Ranger and Rogue Class
2:49 - Unique skill to Rogues
3:34 - Ranger Level 2
4:23 - Ranger Level 5
5:05 - Hunter Subclass
5:38 - Beast Master Subclass
6:07 - Gloomstalker
7:17 - Rogue Level 2
7:38 - Rogue Level 5
7:52 - Rogue Level 7
8:18 - Thief Subclass
9:50 - Arcane Trickster Subclass
11:01 - Assassin Subclass
12:19 - Stealth between these two classes
13:00 - Ability Points for these 2 Classes
14:21 - Synergies
14:55 - Final Thoughts
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[@aldoushuxley5953]

Have you found any heavy armor in act 1? One of the advantages of heavy armor proficiency is that you can dump dex, but that is of course not possible, if you need to play 50 hours with medium armor first... How much of an advantage heavy armor proficiency is for rangers strongly depends on when you find your first decent set

[@a7xftwww]

do you know if druids can now recast spells like moonbeam in wildshape form in the full game?

[@ZeitgeistQuintessence]

Please do Fighter vs Ranger melee .

[@Josh-dx8gi]

@Fextralife Sorry if this is a dumb question, but why does your gameplay, character creation screen, etc. look different than what I have early access to? I just downloaded game (specifically because D4 is basically broken), and I was noticing your screen looks different than mine.

[@Fextralife]

@@Josh-dx8gi You are in Early Access, this footage is from the full game.

[@KingsandGenerals]

I don't know. I have been thinking about the class choice for months now. Usually I default to fighter or wizard, but there are so many great options in this game.

[@pedroaires35]

Sorlock is the only way.

[@danieldeanhodge]

Oh hey, it's you! Love your videos. I have learnt so much history from them. Glad to see you're getting in on the BG3 action.

[@Nato1414]

@KingsandGenerals Yo love you videos man! Glad that your liking BG3 just like the rest of us. The potential combos of a Ranger Gloomstalker multi classed with a Rogue Assassin is going to be crazy on first turn potential

[@leebarnett2610]

Like the format. Cleric v Druid Fighter v Barbarian v Paladin v Monk

[@Diceux]

Blue Dragonborn Tempest Cleric/Storm Sorcerer + Larian wet condition homebrew. 😁

[@mattscott4792]

Gloomstalker changed my mind on this comparison. Instant first playthrough as a wood elf. Going to be amazing.

[@mattr.1804]

Yep gloomstalker for sure. I’m partial to half elf or drow though.

[@zarddin9561]

True. Pick Folk Hero or Outlander background and Bounty Hunter and Urban Tracker and you can select sleight of hand as one of your skills as Ranger while people without I think Bounty Hunter can't and you will have 8 skills with proficiency that way and proficiency with the disguise kits and thieves' tools and Thieves' Cant passive making you be the team Ranger and Rogue in one. Now you can put Astarion and Shadowheart on bench and play with other companions.

[@reilley26]

Deep gnome gives that advantage on stealth and even further darkvision. Plus...gnomes!

[@mattscott4792]

@@reilley26 I'm not a fan of stunties ;p.

[@thant0s]

That Wood Elf pick is hyper optimized, giving you the single greatest amount of level1 proficiencies possible paired with Ranger level 1 picks and a carefully selected Background. Rogue would only be better as a first level to dip into Charisma and a little more Intelligence skills.

[@thewiseone2911]

As a DnD newbie I appreciate these kinds of videos and find them to be quite helpful. I feel like I got a better understanding of what both classes excel at.

[@user-ux7hd3jb2m]

Take my advice. Make a sorcerer that kills everything with a shovel.

[@DreamEnX]

A short summary at the end of what each of these classes excel at, conceptually, would be cool. Side by side as bulletpoints.

[@Karlach_]

agreed

[@Musically-aMused]

This series is amazing. So many classes and choices-the direct comparison is very helpful! Wonderfully timed from my perspective as my friend and I were just texting this morning and I literally said I was thinking of multi rogue ranger. All in all super helpful!

[@dantauche7917]

These class comparison videos are extremely helpful and informative. As someone who is holding off and waiting for the official release before playing, this has help clarify what and how i would like to play as. Thank you Fextra!

[@demonfandango]

I've been trying to read up on race and classes on dndbeyond and it's helpful to even get an idea of what the primary stats tend to be and also understand the upgrades and what-not for each level but these videos are invaluable in terms of understanding synergies and all that. I was thinking on multi-classing monk with one of these classes but anyway, I appreciated the good work that you are putting in. Thank you.

[@bihogd]

Loving the BG3 content! As the game gets closer to launch, you'll probably have to start segregating these videos into Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced level guides. There's a lot of information in DnD, and it might help people who are coming to the channel know where to start looking. Personally I'd like to see a video dedicated to the interactions and use of environmental effects. There's a lot of very useful terrain tactics that aren't obvious!

[@Fextralife]

Thank you for the idea! I’ll try and put what we have made so far into playlists to help a bit too

[@elementzero3379]

These are really good suggestions. I'm into the 5e CharOp community, so I know plenty about 5e; but Larian's gameplay flourishes will all be new to me.

[@Karlach_]

I put around 200 hours into Divinity Original Sin 2 but have been waiting for BG3's full release to play it so i'm hoping my DOS2 knowledge will help me in BG3 a lot. lol

[@kingplunger6033]

Not sure thats needed. 5e is very basic

[@logankerlee]

Really enjoyed the video! I appreciate how you went into detail with some of the abilities and how they could potentially help players. In the future I'd appreciate videos on spells and spell explanations. Not so much on when they become available but when and how they'll be useful when used in game. I understand that many spells haven't been seen/used but I'd appreciate theory videos if nothing else. :)

[@Ileyon]

The comparison is VERY useful, points out many things I would have missed in separate class guide videos

[@HerraWillow]

This was such an informative video. Really great idea to compare two or three classes together. Imo it gave a better perspective about the differences and similarities of these classes

[@Darkholow]

I'm gonna go with both. Start rogue then go into Ranger.

[@hondoshaver7651]

Thinking about doing this or the inverse, Rnger to Gloom Stalker, dip in fighter, then rogue the rest of the way. So excited!

[@igorcorti6364]

I'm doing gloomstalker then going into figther ❤

[@MrWiecol]

I will go 4 lvl Rouge thief for bonus action and cunning action and ability point then 8lvl into ranger gloom stalker probably dual crossbow

[@chineduonwumere5562]

I'm gonna do both. Starting with ranger, then going into rogue

[@igorcorti6364]

@@MrWiecol I love that! So many options 🥳😍

[@darinsingleton3553]

Appreciate the combining of somewhat associated classes for easier comparison. Vey thoughtful. Appreciate the consideration.

[@tomtomkowski7653]

Great idea! This kind of video is very useful because for casual D&D players, all these choices could be overwhelming because of so many possibilities. Can't wait for another video.

[@Dylan-et2yz]

Great video. This is exactly the level of detail I want on the classes.

[@charles_the_elder]

I really enjoyed this video and it answered a lot of my questions. I've been wavering between Ranger and rogue as my first character and this really helped. I've always loved Ranger characters and Gloomstalker sealed the deal. Thank you.

[@tangledfish]

From playing around in the EA it seems that rogues really shine in regards to the action economy, even more than in tabletop 5E. Not only is mobility one of the most important aspects of combat (bonus action dash is huge) but there's a lot of items that grant quite strong bonus effects on dashing. A lightning charge thief build is absurdly strong in the EA and once multiclassing becomes an option it could easily become absurd.

[@BellTollsForThee]

This comparison was exactly what I was struggling with thank you!

[@hajii2160]

Awesome - This was the exact question I was asking myself, so thank you for the video!

[@crunchy7202]

Still planning on making my Slasher build and this helped. Going to be a Gloomstalker/Shadow monk. Was having a hell of a time trying to choose stalker or assassin. Thx for the great vid

[@TheNerjaveika]

Loved the format, really helped me make my mind, hope to see more of such videos 👍

[@West68456]

Awesome, thanks very much, very clear explanation, also thanks for the wiki pages that you put up for BG3, I have found them to be very helpful. :D

[@SeanDee21]

I had this game in my wishlist waiting for the newer classes to drop (monk cough cough) and after seeing this and the dark urge monk, I’m ready to dive in. Thanks for the vids!

[@TwilightRose2006]

Fantastic! I have been debating playing Rouge or Ranger or Warlock in that order .. I figured I'd end up multi classing Rouge Ranger. Can't wait to see your Warlock video

[@abczyx123987k]

loving the class videos giving a different prospective. As for future vids I'ld like to see paladin vs cleric. Keep up the great work

[@anubis1800]

I love these class comparison videos, especially since some of these classes are so similar. You should do some multiclassing videos once the game fully releases. Very informative! Thanx!

[@mattgreen753]

Awesome video! I really like this vs format. Now I want to play as a Rogue after watching this. Looking forward to a vs video with spell casters too.

[@SPSteve]

I never multiclass but a Ranger/Rogue sounds like it could be a lot of fun to play. These excellent class overviews have opened my eyes to all kinds of possibilities. I would like to see more 2 class comparisons that would multiclass together well.

[@runebinder]

Been playing D&D since school (35+ years ago), and was similar but decided to muticlass in a IRL game and have a Lvl 5 Ranger Gloomstalker/Lvl 4 Rogue Scout and it's one of the most versatile fun builds I've ever played. Will be doing a Ranger/Rogue for my first play through.

[@SPSteve]

@@runebinder sounds fun!

[@McTrapper]

This was definitely useful and I really liked the part where you talked about multiclassing these two into one. As a total Baldurs Gate noob that inspired me to try out an assassin / gloomstalker combo. I wouldn't mind more videos structured like this, like comparing classes that fit together superbly well and then mentioning the multi class potential of the two.

[@MCG55SS]

idk how this game will work with cap being lvl 12 but i know DND Gloomstalker - Assassin is a strong opener, can have one of the strongest opening combos in the game especially at lvl 6.

[@McTrapper]

@@MCG55SS yeah I've no idea seeing as I've never actually played dnd, but I'm sure they've changed / balanced things to fit the level cap

[@erickchristensen746]

@@MCG55SS They can respec if they want at any point starting rather earl in the game so people can experiment

[@XBezerkerX]

@@MCG55SS Would you not go Gloomstalker 5 before Assassin 3 to get the extra attack though? I've never played this multiclass and it's going to be my first character in BG3

[@MCG55SS]

@@XBezerkerX a normal d&d campaign I would say yes but with the cap game only being level 12, that means you'll be level eight before you got to sneak attack bonus and monsters will be stronger due you being an early endgame roughly or the ending of midgame. So this is just me theory crafting that the stealth bonus damage on your opener will be more beneficial at 6 then waiting to get your two attacks and then going to get your bonus. 9/3 or maybe 8/4 is probably still the final build but the question is when do optimally Branch off. Also I think getting the rogue skillset earlier might open up more options in the game.

[@jlajr1974]

Do not underestimate the power of a Rogue with 2 bonus actions.. Duel wielding hand crossbows might be the strongest range option in the game.

[@InsidiousCaveDwellingHermit]

If you were an assassin and did this, on the initial round would all ranged attacks have advantage and crit potentially against a single target you surprised? Edit: oh, do only thieves get the double bonus action?

[@crescentsweep2460]

Only thieves get an extra bonus action (1 action and 2 bonus actions per turn)

[@runo949]

If they are using same logic in DnD, you can not dual wield hand crossbows. You must have 1 free hand to releod in DnD, you cant even hold shiel or smt. but you can have crossbow expert feat which allows you to use your bonus action to shoot again. So with crosbow expert feat, a thief rogue at level 4 can attack 3 times.

[@bwaresunlight]

​@supermonkey100 yes, thieves only. I did get a magic item in the goblin camp that allows an additional bonus action too, so there are other ways.

[@Nocturnal9720]

@@runo949 you can dual wield hand crossbows in BG3, with a level 5 gloomstalker and level 3 thief you can attack 5 times on the first turn, then 4 every other turn

[@Sinjinsnope77]

These videos are dope my guy. Keep them up! Loving the BG3 content

[@TankaSaurus23]

Really liked this style of video, much better than watching 2 like you said. Not sure if it would be hard to but It would be cool to see or hear you run through a hypothetical round of combat with each of the classes at say level 5 or 6 to see how they differ :). With that being said I know there is a wide variety of subclasses so it would be difficult to have a standard

[@JT-mt6ku]

I am genuinely so excited to play splitscreen with my wife, after Diablo 4 devs weaseling their way out of releasing couch coop for PC (muh technology) I’m glad there are still studios out there that are willing to keep coop alive.

[@Enragedmonkey8]

As someone who has learned alot of the basics from the early access , information about useful multiclass options is really valuable , for instance you mentioning using the thief subclass to get a extra bonus action was not something I had really considered and I might even consider it for say my barbarian at higher levels

[@enkidu2562]

If I'm not wrong, plenty of classes get extra actions - fighters as well, and that might mesh better with your barb. Not 100% though.

[@natereaver5754]

@@enkidu2562 Do you mean "Action surge" on 2-th or an extra attacks on the 5-th and 11-th level for fighters? Most martial classes get the extra attacks on 5-th lvl, but I'd say the thief is quite unique for getting the 2-d bonus action. That would make mix with berserker quite good

[@enkidu2562]

@@natereaver5754 ah, I see - my bad then, didn't know what I was talking about. :>

[@natereaver5754]

@@enkidu2562 It's totally fine, there is always something new to learn. Like dual wielding hand crossbows was something new to me yesterday :/ I guess I spend more time going through wikies than playing the actual game, lol

[@kringkingen]

Great video, looking forward for Sorcerer, Wizard and Warlock comparison. I will go either Sorcerer or Warlock my first play through because of Charisma and how important that can be in conversations compared to Wizard.

[@toddluther206]

Love the builds and cant wait until game comes out tomorrow!! I am planning on doing a Shadow Monk/Rogue Assassin multiclass or a Gloomstalker Ranger for my first character.

[@Tall-Hobbit]

i think this is a great idea for a video series fextralife please keep making it :)

[@lms111uk]

These are great overview guides without spoilers thanks!

[@breostag.]

I would like to see a video on the concept of multiclassing, explaining the basics, and how you can do it in-game, how you can respec etc...

[@calendil]

Very good video. I was thinking about this for a year.

[@ibis0921]

Love this video idea. Can’t wait to see more.

[@Patriot-ms4ir]

You have come a loooong way. I was watching your divinity sin videos. 😂😅 talking about monotone reading bulletins from a script. Congrats on all the success!!

[@Stormwolf4]

I thought I struggled in Divinity 2 deciding what classes and spells I wanted. This game is gonna destroy me! Excited for more guides on these classes cause I definitely need them! Hopefully you can make one on great dual classes to chose!

[@HeyDudes2000]

Thankfully you’ll be able to respect from the get go, so you won’t have to replay the first act every time you get inspired by a new build like me 😅

[@erickchristensen746]

@@HeyDudes2000 Well you can respec in div2 after fort joy at least but that can take some time to finish in itself lol. This time around we get it super early which is really nice.

[@romariogee]

That's freaking amazing. It's like you read my mind. Thank you for these videos

[@LukeDavisWarhammer]

Once again, you have the best content for every game i play. Well done and thank you

[@richardweems4517]

Earlier a person mentioned beginner, intermediate, etc. guides. Perhaps in some of the advanced guides you might mention which glasses mesh, starting ones and when to change. Respecing will make when to switch a little less important. As always, thank you for the hard work

[@plasnoid]

very timely video. Well done. Helped me out!

[@ericroll]

This is a perfect side-by-side comparison. These are my two favorite classes. I'll be playing this game for the rest of my life, so I'm sure I'll do a full playthrough with each class, and then try some multiclassing.

[@Karlach_]

Same lol. I'm going to be playing this game off and on for at least the next two decades, probably more.

[@Grint20]

Would be nice to see more videos to compare classes with the same role : for example one video on wizards warlocks and sorcerers for the mage archetype, or another one on barbarians fighters and paladin for the melee archetype, and perhaps doing a comparison on witch one is the best for tanking, witch one is better as a bruiser etc

[@marka351]

This is the decision I have been thinking about as I prepare for my first playthrough. Right now leaning towards Wood Elf Ranger, with of course Shadowheart and not sure who the other two companions will be.

[@InsidiousCaveDwellingHermit]

Very helpful content. I didn't realize pure rogues are restricted to a single attack regardless of lvl if not dual wielding. Fifth edition I'm not particularly knowledgeable regarding. I was originally not going to multiclass and just go with pure rogue first playthrough but will reconsider carefully that approach. The multiclass ideas you gave were interesting and mechanics explanations communicated well. Your channel and time so do as you please, but just in response to your request for feedback on themes for future videos; perhaps one could be a comparison of the mechanics, effectiveness, and potential multiclassings of the melee combat focused classes (barbarian, monk, paladin, & fighter) if you haven't already made one, in a similar format to this video. 11 days to go approx til full release at time of posting, am so hyped.

[@joshuamiller8533]

I'm looking forward to playing around with class synergies to combine powerful feats from different classes. From a purely melee perspective, Barb/Fighter/Ranger is a good comparison, but so is Monk/Fighter/Ranger and Bard/Fighter/Ranger.

[@MrFourFists]

honestly you're very thorough in your descriptions and details between each class so I don't think there will be anything too large missing from your upcoming video but if I had to pick I would ask you to go a bit more in-depth on the different spells between sorcerer and wizard!

[@SuperVillianStudios]

Id like to see a Barbarian/Fighter video. I am sure you'd get to it eventually. I am really interested in how those two can multiclass for possibly the ultimate tank build. But this was very insightful did not expect Ranger to be so versatile.

[@BretSnyderMusic]

Barb/Druid is your ultimate tank build. Barb/Fighter is more about hulksmash.

[@gk4204]

I liked the compare and contrast you did in this video. Having this done in one vid help clear up some questions I had. Thank you.

[@evidicus]

Do not sleep on the Thief Rogue. I just finished an *essentially solo Early Access run using my Thief, and having 2 bonus actions makes for amazing stealth and dash opportunities. I could easily maneuver to enemy blind spots to sneak attack them and stealth back into the shadows. You don’t need a high amount of HP or heavy armor if you never get hit! And if I did get into a tight spot, I could dash 3 times in a single round to gain distance and reset a fight. Even just having a second opportunity to stealth if the first attempt failed was huge! Strongly considering a Thief for my Dark Urge play through just because of how solo capable it felt. * I say “essentially solo” above as the only companion I kept around for my EA run was Gale, and that’s just so I could park him in front of a vendor and instantly send loot to him to sell while my Thief kept murdering.

[@rail7646]

gloomstalker assassin deep gnomes with a bow exterminate whole encounters before they can even do anything, I'm glad they added assassin and gloomstalkers as their third subclass for some gameplay variation!

[@DekuDude]

Why deep gnomes and not wood elve?

[@mitlandir5761]

I'm a wizard for life, so that's what my character will be. However, I recently had a playthrough where I created another custom character alongside my wizard and that character was a ranger. And OH MY, was I happy with having one in my party! I specced him into archery and I'd take him over Astarion any day. The sheer precision and reliability of the class (especially once he gets double attack) plus the extra benefit of utility spells makes him a perfect low maintenance turret I can always rely on. On the other hand, rogues are great, but they're kind of forced into melee to make use of all their actions, which means you also end up with them getting wailed on by the baddies

[@eNyaaaw]

I want to thank you for these videos. Im 35 and just getting into anything related to dnd. I know its nothing like the same but i was a huge fan of dragon age origins and this game reminds me of that, which i loved when i was in my early 20's. Played a little bg3 as a Warlock but have decided to do a full playthrough as a Ranger thanks to this video. This game is next level.

[@geebax8440]

Like the direct comparison in the same vid between similar classes. Doing the three casters makes sense as the next since they maybe feel like a tougher choice from one to the other.

[@TheInterficio]

Its a great concept for a video, since whenever deciding its often that I'm thinking about 2-3 classes, as opposed to broadly researching. One thing that I think could have been nice to hear more about is how the class interacts with skills. One of the big reasons I've liked Ranger is that it can be quite good at skills I enjoy being proficient in for my main character (Insight, perception, Nature, survival, medicine). Rogue on the otherhand has more versatility (and of course expertise) in terms of how it can specialise with skills - but isnt as naturally inclined to go for wisdom skills. I think this is kind of what made me lean more towards Ranger in the end.

[@brandong7784]

i've been needing this video. thank you

[@MrNoahDanby]

so many choices and on top of that race will play a big factor as well. For my first play through I will definitely be playing one or the other just because I love scouting and pickpocketing and hiding while exploring every nook and cranny for magic items and hidden chests. Maybe a Monk / Gloomstalker / Thief or a hybrid of at least two. I'm kinda curious about Deurgar for this build. I think it could be fun.

[@RexGames94]

Long-term 5e user here. Def going 5 Gloomstalker/5 assassin/2 trickery domain. Stealth God incoming💪🏻 The damage out put of hunters mark, extra attack long bow, gloomstalker initial bonus, assassin, and sneak attack is insane. Adding two levels of trickery domain can always allow advantage on stealth, and a little charisma flare for duplicity. If you're considering the infiltrator roll in your group, try this multiclass out.

[@DekuDude]

2 trickery domain means rogue trickery?

[@erebuslegion685]

My first 5e character was a Blue Dragonborn, Rogue Assassin. So happy that I'll be able to recreate and bring to life something so dear to me.

[@misterthegeoff9767]

It'll be interesting to see your comparison between the charisma casters (bard/sorceror/warlock) as I bet "sling spells and ace every persuasion check" is gonna be a popular play style.

[@Davistobor]

I think I’m goin for a monk/ranger multi. 8/4 in each. Really lookin forward to it

[@Shinintendo]

I would love pure magic class guide - Sorcerer vs Wizard vs Warlock their difference and combinations, thanks for making these videos.

[@butwhy8944]

Thanks for making this! Super informative!!❤

[@nyanko2077]

The advantage with stealth for rangers is only significant if you don't have Shadowheart in your party though. Cause if she's in, your rogue will be nearly invisible with all the bonuses she brings to stealth.

[@AndreyKrichevsky]

I'm definitely planning on making Astarion a Thief/Shadow Monk multiclass. I find the monk to be a great way to simulate vampire strength and speed, and that extra bonus action from thief works SO well with the monk's bonus actions!

[@cadesummers5866]

Ditto that for me, but I might to monk/ranger for the tactical synergies if it works better

[@AndreyKrichevsky]

@@cadesummers5866 What synergies? I haven't looked much into ranger

[@cadesummers5866]

@@AndreyKrichevsky They will both use wisdom for spells along with perhaps some dex. Additionally the Shadow monk subclass should have some good repositioning tools and steal synergies. I've watched an insane amount of aestus_rpg and he goes into a lot of it in his videos.

[@stfauth6031]

Liked the video, keep it similar to this one. Explain how sorcerer and warlock are good multi’s as well, like you did in this video.

[@johndeighan2495]

Very useful approach!

[@The_Archdruid]

I will be going Half-Elf Rogue (Thief)/ Fighter (Battlemaster) for my first build. I think it'll be a fun duel-wielding build.

[@mmegidolaonn8295]

I understand it may make little sense to do 2 rogue ones after each other, but I'm really stuck between assassin rogue and way of shadow monk. Possibly a rogue-monk comparison in future?

[@Tehhify]

Great video! Very helpful and original. One thing that you could add in the future videos is how the classes interact with other classes, what works great with what, does it make sense to have both rogue and ranger in one group etc. Especially for spellcasters I am still deciding if sorcerer and wizard would work together or is it too much of a risk

[@erickchristensen746]

Your recommendation would inflate the video more than twice it's length, so would be better for it to be a whole new video in itself, but would be cool.

[@Fextralife]

Good idea!

[@kingslaphappy1533]

Great video, you da man!

[@pennguino9137]

Thanks for the video. Very good blend of hinting at multi-classing without going into a class build/guide. A very even balance of sub-arche types presentation without emphasizing one over the other. I felt a slight bias for the Ranger than the Rogue. Not a judgement on my part, just an observation. Could be a bias on my part as I do favor the Ranger. To steal from White Men Can't Jump, I listen to the Rogue but I hear the Ranger. Length was good. What I felt missing was some discussion on late game build differences. I know a lot of PCs will multi-class but maybe just a couple words of what a full build difference would present.

[@confficker]

Great video, love the comparison. I would be interested about your opinion Ranger vs Fighter and Fighter vs Barbarian. I am planning archer build and hopefully Hand crossbow with Crossbow expert shooting at every Action and BA will be a thing. Battlemaster 6 into Thief could be really fun.

[@johnnyletsgo8647]

I wanted to play an assassination like build like im playing rn in divinity original sin 2, and i see so much cool stuff you could do with multiclassing both of these

[@erickchristensen746]

And stealth works much better in BG3 than it did in Div2, i love the game but the stealth was just almost always pointless xD Now we can make big opening hits ;3

[@johnnyletsgo8647]

@erickchristensen746 fr tho😭 I was like, it's gonna be so cool to come up behind somebody and one shot them and then go invisible and switch to a bow, but I ain't ever used sneak other than to pickpocket. That's all it's good for most the time

[@Karlach_]

@@erickchristensen746 Agreed, I never used sneak once in combat. I only ever used it out of combat to steal stuff in towns and pickpocket people.

[@tassey]

Excellent presentation. Depends on what part of the game interests you most for your main character..

[@Zyxxus619]

This might've convinced me to play Gloomstalker/Assassin multiclass. Specifically 8 Gloomstalker/4 Assassin: after hitting lvl 5 Gloomstalker to get Extra Attack and lvl 2 spells (most notably Pass Without Trace), get your 4 levels of Assassin and pick up that juicy Assassinate feature as well as Expertise/Sneak Attack, then finish leveling in Gloomstalker. Since the split is 8/4 you won't miss any ASIs or Feats, you'll just get your second one slightly late. You don't get lvl 3 spells, but you do insane burst damage on 1st rounds and have a lot of firepower both in and out of stealth.

[@patwilson2546]

Very useful - thanks. Definitely sticking with rogue. I like my main character to be the one that interacts with the world. That leads me to rogue. I might dual class to fighter at some point. Another thought is Rogue/Bard. Not sure if that is allowed

[@chriseggroll]

One thing I usually take into account is what I want my party to be, and what classes aren't already taken by other party members. Between these two Ranger isn't taken by a companion and Gloom Stalker is a really strong subclass so that would be my pick between these two. There are some mods already that add the Swashbuckler subclass to Rogues which makes getting sneak attack much easier and has some good flavor for a Face. I'm going to play a Bard or Paladin for sure though, or maybe a multiclass of the two. Having a strong support character really makes things go smoother.

[@DekuDude]

Great video, I will go for multiclass them!

[@anarchy07]

These videos are holding me over untill release. Can't wait

[@badgerinthewood]

This is a cool idea to do direct comparisons.

[@battlefieldpro12345]

Cant wait to see some custom multiclassed builds from you. Personally, im going for a blue lightning-based Dragonborn with Draconic Bloodline and Tempest Cleric

[@parabiology1014]

I was thinking about the lightening based draconian sorcerer with the tempest cleric too. Do you know if the armor class bonus with the draconic stacks with regular armor?

[@battlefieldpro12345]

@@parabiology1014 As far as I know, its only with clothing/robes, not for medium or heavy armor.

[@parabiology1014]

@@battlefieldpro12345 - that’s how I was reading it too, based on description, but I was hoping I was wrong 🤷‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️. Would be GREAT AC if you could keep the bonus!

[@IDPhotoMan]

Great video - i plan on getting this for my PS5 and playing a Drow Rogue. Closest i've come to playing a game like this is Wasteland 3.

[@StarlordRIP]

Reliable talent at lvl 11 will be huge for rogue also. Not sure if you mentioned. I'll be doing skilled feat at lvl 10 and have 11 skills with lowest roll being 10 at lvl 11. So much utility outside of combat.

[@Sacrelicious]

In DOS2 I liked the assassin types. It's fun to go invisible and backstab. I'll be anxious for build guides for this game, if it'll be best to multiclass or not et cetera I like archers too though. That's another option. I feel like it'd be a mistake to have too many DEX-oriented party members though

[@Dash277]

I might go Gloomstalker, but right now I'm leaning archery based Battle Master Fighter. I get archery bonuses, second attack, action surge and the Battle Master maneuvers.

[@shaunthemighty]

Would love to hear about the warlock with pact of the blade

[@dannysawyer7311]

Excellent video! Bard one next please :D

[@binioslaw]

Hmm.I always try to play either Rogue or Ranger so the idea is to multiclass at least one of them. Rogue Thief/Ranger Beastmaster with heavy armor proficiency and dual wielding seems weirdly appealing to me. Or maybe Rogue Thief/Bard College of swords for my sneaky support and charm main character. Another idea is Ranger Beastmaster/Druid Wild shape to embrace my wild nature? Will probably restart the act 1 a couple times untill I decide what feels best for me.

[@Noosh_]

Im already planning on a gloom stalker ranger and assassin rouge multi class so this should be interesting

[@geoffreysherman609]

Thief3/Paladin so you can cast another BA smite spell to smite on. Thief3/Sorcerer for additional quickened spell. Im curious to see if the Tepest cleric's 6th lvl ability that lets them push a large or smaller creature any time they deal lighting damage works in BG3. With the Sparky set you can find in the early access, that's a lot of pushes and this game rewards that. Looking forward to more from you all!!!

[@natereaver5754]

Nice idea for the paladin, what would you say about the thief mix with berserker's frenzied strike?

[@bradveach2333]

Excellent thanks . very informative.

[@omg_RANCORS]

New to Baldurs Gate, but I played DoS2. These kinds of videos are incredibly helpful. I’m sure I’ll get it wrong on my first playthrough, this is very complicated lol.