Biblical Economics and Gary North? | Doug Wilson

In this episode of Ask Doug, Pastor Doug Wilson answers the question, "In what ways were you influenced by economist and theologian Gary North?"
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Check out Gary North's "Foundations for Christian Scholarship" here: amzn.to/3J0vYpa

[@alabamahammer707]

Where can we go to ask pastor Wilson a question

[@ellenbertran1493]

I would like to know also

[@Winkark]

Gary joined a church where I was going in Fayetteville, AR. He was a real gentlemen. Hard worker, good public teacher, and prolific writer. Sad to hear he's gone.

[@WhatAHorribleNight]

Gary North was vastly underappreciated in his lifetime.

[@therealkillerb7643]

"Crossed Fingers" is the best analysis of Presbyterianism I've ever read,

[@RalphCochran99]

I agree. Should be required reading for every Reformed Seminary

[@ter8330]

Gary North is one of my favorite writers!

[@danmannz]

Seems like one of the good guys? an Austrian School economic historian belonged to the Mises Institute, we so need these types of guys in our current trying times.

[@lancesteinke3732]

I used to be a libertarian, so I listened to a lot of Mises institute stuff. Nothing much from Gary North, but I was aware of his existence. It would be interesting to observe the point where Christianity and libertarianism meet. I discarded much of my political ideas when I was saved. Maybe I should review some of them now. Get some Gary North books lol. 😁

[@danmannz]

@@lancesteinke3732 Yeah Romans 13 is challenging. But I have a few ideas.

[@lancesteinke3732]

@@huntercarlson1619 what’s this reconstructionist thing you speak of?

[@truthcraft4353]

“Honest Money”, probaly the greatest work on monetary policy and economics that was way ahead of its time. I have a feeling this will inspire many.

[@MasteringMayhem]

Reading through North’s 8,8000+ magnum opus An Economic Commentary On The Bible. 300 pages in and it’s been an absolute delight 🙂✌️❤️

[@BillKron]

I just read my first Gary North book, Unconditional Surrender, and found it to be very well written and extremely thought provoking.

[@jwtrain]

Check out his book "Liberating Planet Earth". Short and powerful.

[@BillKron]

@@jwtrain Will do. I appreciate the recommendation. I'm about to start Joe Boot's new book, "Ruler of Kings." So, I'll start it after that. Thanks, John.

[@jwtrain]

@@BillKron I just finished that today! Excellent. I'll be buying more copies to give away.

[@MarkCox21125150]

Great book!!

[@karcharias811]

The only pastor I have ever met who even knew who Gary North was.

[@frankfuentes5659]

I have a friend who was a very close & good friend with him.

[@bradheath4927]

The following observation is a complex situation, but it has caused me to ponder North's aversion to Classical Christian Education. One of my daughters became so enamored of Western Civ and Classical studies, including early church history and Great Books, that the proselyting professors at Hillsdale had little trouble leading her into Catholicism. She's now a Dominican Nun. We had attempted to give her what we (her parents) had never had, i.e. a Classical Christian Education, but we discovered too late we were dealing with powerful ideas and concepts whose implications we did not fully appreciate and were not equipped to counter. Just be careful as you educate your children; you're handling fire.

[@mosesking2923]

Education is what lead me away from Protestantism and into Catholicism too. Reading the church fathers made it clear Protestantism was false. “To be in history is to cease to be Protestant” - John Henry Newman. Protestants simply have to accept that they are out of line with the ancient church.

[@bradheath4927]

@Moses King wow... that was heartless. I should’ve have known there’d be trolls here.

[@Cinnamonbuns13]

Really sorry to hear this.

[@gregb6469]

Isn't Hillsdale supposed to be a Baptist school?

[@doejohn215]

Aristotelianism merging with Thomas Aquinas giving us Scholasticism. Gary North is correct. Wilson is not grasping the depth of Van Til’s critique. I teach Worldview Through Literature to High Schoolers. The Bible is my primary text, not read through Aristotle’s categories Christianized by Thomas. Gary North is correct and I’ll defend and debate my position.

[@rmgibbs1861]

Political Polytheism also. :)

[@wanjohimuchiri1936]

Garry North is epic! I'd highly recommend 'Healer of the Nations'

[@michaellandry2227]

I used to read Gary North's online material. Didn't always agree but appreciated his writing ability.

[@kennyhollidayjr5206]

North and Rushdoony provoked so many thoughts when I was introduced to them. I went to see Rushdoony at Sandy Cove Md in the 90's but he was too sick to be there. I had dinner at a table with you and Steve Wilkerson if my memory serves me correctly. May God continue to bless you and your work sir!

[@willmerritt4186]

Steve Wilkins? He is our Pastor at Church of the Redeemer in West Monroe, LA. Still at it and better than ever.

[@AJMacDonaldJr]

Remember Gary's advice and example: publish your own books and make the .pdf available free.

[@bricehatcher8391]

Seems like bad advice. Unless your sponsored or independently wealthy, how are you supposed to eat?

[@AJMacDonaldJr]

@@bricehatcher8391 Gary printed and sold his own books.

[@bricehatcher8391]

@@AJMacDonaldJr you said make it free

[@MrNanonen]

I’ve got Gary North’s Tools Of Dominion on my book shelf line up to read.

[@michaelbee2165]

Thank you Doug. I'm no Calvinist but I think this was a very gracious summary of Mr. North's work. Calvin ist or not we are still brothers in Christ and disagreements over this theology are all secondary because our Salvation in Jesus is secured.

[@umaikakudo]

How can you believe your salvation is secured in Christ if you are not a 5 point Calvinist? Arminians can change their mind, lose faith, and reject the gospel offer of their own free will and Jesus can only plead passively from the sidelines hoping you change your mind.

[@gregb6469]

@@umaikakudo -- Maybe Michael is a whiskey Calvinist (agrees with one-fifth--once saved, always saved).

[@umaikakudo]

@@gregb6469 We wouldn't want to do any violence to the creature's free will by forcing them to remain saved just because they made a choice some time in the past. Seems mighty unloving of God to force someone to stay saved if they don't want to be any more. Why would anyone want to be saved if you get turned into an automaton unable to control your destiny? #calviniststrawmen

[@gregb6469]

@@umaikakudo -- Since no one who has ever really been saved ever has any serious desire to become unsaved, your objection is moot. Anyone who ever claimed to be a Christian, but at some point goes apostate and abandons the Faith, and never returns, was never really saved in the first place.

[@boosminogstatus6460]

Amen. There are plenty but few non Calvinist and Calvinist people who are kind and hold that stance you hold. Spurgeon, a Calvinist quote along the lines “whether u are Calvinist, Arminian, etc , be first and formostly Christians….”

[@gregb6469]

I've read, and profited from, several of North's books. One I found particularly interesting was MILLENNIALISM AND SOCIAL THEORY.

[@pwrightt00]

I found out about Gary North from Lew Rockwell's website when I thought I was libertarian and from North to Rushdoony, Chilton, Jordan, and Bahnsen. Then last but not least Doug Wilson 🤓.

[@SpaceCaptainDR]

We need someone to take up Gary North’s legacy. Doug is right- there is no one doing his work today, applying God’s law to economics in such a scholarly manner.

[@susanedgar4852]

There are some that already do, but we need more. Tri-City Covenant church has our annual Dr. Gary K. North Conference and has the Dr. Gary K. North Library. Our school has Rushdoony's Institutes of Biblical Law and Chilton's Paradise Restored as High School courses.

[@rmgibbs1861]

Thank you!

[@gabesmith9171]

Interesting- I’ll have to check some of his stuff out👍

[@thomasglasscock2570]

Y’all should have Joel Salatin on Man Rampant.

[@JP_21M]

Yep - dishonest money incentivizes dishonesty in every other industry that uses that dishonest medium. BTC promotes honesty if anyone is interested in incentivizing virtue.

[@mytimeforjesus]

Great recommendations, Doug. I lived in Tyler 1984-1988, and interacted frequently with Gary (and the other chaps there as well). Is anyone really carrying on the work of any of these guys? Rushdoony, North, Chilton, Jordan?

[@Joshua-se4qp]

It's happening, at a slow pace, bit it's happening

[@abrahamtovar2563]

Slowly as Joshua says... Here in Spain there are a few brothers with his families involves in his biblical teaches

[@abrahamtovar2563]

And I know brothers from southamérica majorly in communist countries like Venezuela, Perú, Argentina, Chile and México that are postimillenial reconstruccionist pastors thanks our God... So keep praying for us!

[@jwtrain]

Joe Boot, Jason Garwood, Gordan Runyan, Jeff Durbin would be a few names.

[@BillKron]

@@jwtrain What’s with Garwood? I was loving his teaching, but then he totally lost me on the BLM stuff. I know he is/was associated with McDurmon, but honestly I don’t have time for drama and in-fighting, so I really don’t know.

[@justinchamberlain3443]

0:50 read 28 of gary north's books

[@luluceballos9432]

Economic commentary on Genesis

[@joshlbiomechanic]

Hey Canon, hello from canada. Thought you should check out Artur Polanski’s interview

[@joshlbiomechanic]

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[@JonJaeden]

Gary North was smashmouth before smashmouth was cool ... my favorite streetfighter back in the day.

[@savanahbustle3361]

Not relevant to this video, but desperately seeking answers about this: recently the pastor of the church I’ve been attending told the congregation that God will not hear the prayers of an unbeliever. They implied that you might as well not even pray if you’re an unbeliever because God will ignore you. I know where he’s getting that info from. I know what verses he’s pulling from. But I never understood the scripture to mean it in that way. If it’s true that we should be reading the scripture in that way, than what about the children who pray to God?

[@ter8330]

Does anyone happen to know Doug Wilson's thoughts on Reconstructionism?

[@Joshua-se4qp]

Christian Reconstruction? He's on our side, pro reconstruction

[@Postmillhighlights]

He has talked a bit about it both in print and video. Just search, you’ll find some stuff pretty easy.

[@ter8330]

@@Postmillhighlights Thanks!

[@ter8330]

@@Joshua-se4qp Ok, thanks!

[@Postmillhighlights]

I would have bet money that there was an ask Doug just this year where he was asked that question but I can’t find it now. My memory must be failing me.

[@HoseaCuervo]

Thats mind blowing to me that they never met or worked together.

[@markboland1181]

Oddly enough North largely rejected biblical economics from a biophysical perspective. Fundamental economics is energy acting on created materials for need satisfaction. Only secondarily is this activity monetary. The basis for a biblical view of material/monetary wealth in Deuteronomy 14:24-26.

[@Bane_questionmark]

I don't see the connection between those verses and this concept of economics needing to be seen in this biophysical way. And I don't know anything about this idea beyond your comment, but it seems like an overly reductionist perspective. Yes energy being expended to do work is the basis of all action, but something's economic value is not strictly connected to its biophysical "cost" of energy to produce. Again though I could be misunderstanding your meaning.

[@johnbrooks7144]

That is manufacturing and farming and mining, not economics. Economics is the observation of how people make a living from their work. There are two views of economics: the classic definition is "the allocation of scarce resources among infinite demands". A more accurate description is mutual benefit, people with money get goods and people with goods get money. Money is defined as that most marketable commodity. Money can be sold anywhere in exchange for real goods and services.

[@doejohn215]

Aristotelianism merging with Thomas Aquinas giving us Scholasticism. Gary North is correct. Wilson is not grasping the depth of Van Til’s critique. I teach Worldview Through Literature to High Schoolers. The Bible is my primary text, not read through Aristotle’s categories Christianized by Thomas. Gary North is correct and I’ll defend and debate my position.

[@jesusrocks256]

The lighting and aesthetic is different in almost every one of these videos. Some consistency might go a long way!

[@SolaMelodica]

Oh dear...there's always one...

[@jesusrocks256]

@@SolaMelodica I offered my comment as a friendly suggestion. :)

[@supersmart671]

I followed his advise of working only x hours for an employer...now I don't have job. Probably only works in an American context.

[@thomasglasscock2570]

Y’all should have Joel Salatin on Man Rampant.