Black Desert Guide To Evasion Vs DR - What should you build?

  Рет қаралды 62,226

BiceptimusPrime

BiceptimusPrime

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 179
@matthewlands9839
@matthewlands9839 2 жыл бұрын
i can tell how much time you spent on a script and planning for this video. so much content from twitch streamers have a loosely planning improv discussion where the thoughts are not organized, this is not that. thank you for your time and patience putting this together, the attention to detail shows.
@hotcoffee7933
@hotcoffee7933 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Well planned and presented. A great guide.
@mikechina4811
@mikechina4811 2 жыл бұрын
just watched you artifacts BIS comparison video and i'm glad to be blessed by this video :)
@TheLilPorkChop
@TheLilPorkChop 2 жыл бұрын
oooh another sneaky upload in the middle of the night, not bad
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Get rdy for another one next week ;)
@TheLilPorkChop
@TheLilPorkChop 2 жыл бұрын
@@BiceptimusPrime ya luv ta see it
@berserk_9581
@berserk_9581 Жыл бұрын
Veteran myself and know all that but I still watch because your videos are the best. from one warrior to another :)
@CommandoMaster
@CommandoMaster 2 жыл бұрын
Good info my young man.
@youreaqt3730
@youreaqt3730 2 жыл бұрын
Could you possibly do a video on hybrid builds? I feel like not much is known in the community and what classes suit it best
@kyube4391
@kyube4391 2 жыл бұрын
hybrid is a jack of all trades, master of non type of thing. You pretty much need full pen c20 gear to make hybrid semi viable, although when you're hard cap gear, you're going to stat check nearly anyone either way
@judykathrynt.2211
@judykathrynt.2211 2 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome explanation~ thank you!
@taniadescoteaux5577
@taniadescoteaux5577 10 ай бұрын
thank you for your video , to many poeple said Eva suck , i was afraid of my choice to make a musa eva , thank you again for your time !!
@jacquesarangies8603
@jacquesarangies8603 2 жыл бұрын
Love your content man, subbed here and followed on Twitch, thanks for all the effort you put in to BDO guides/help its truly much appreciated
@thunderpound680
@thunderpound680 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! You nailed it 👏 I play on console without artifacts and currently were capped to c10 right now. Im running 294ap 398dp 690gs evasion mystic, and I can honestly say to anyone watching this from console community: if youre playing evasion and your friends tell you evasion will be dead in a ditch in the near future, that is not the case at all and it's worth sticking with it. My advice is if you like any of said classes that can run either dr or evasion and you're not already fully committed to one build or the other in terms of caphras in gear and full pen - consider both choices carefully and make your decision based on your end goal and stick it out to the end because both dr and evasion can be strong but you shouldn't measusre the strength of the build youre aiming for based on how it currently performs. Different items boost stats significantly and make you meet new defensive milestones. Another thing I suggest to people chasing evasion builds is to keep a track of your gear progress on the garmoth website to measure your opponents hit rates, check out what elixirs & buffs to run and test your stats with different offhands 👍
@EmpyreanDreamer
@EmpyreanDreamer 2 жыл бұрын
It's all good, the more people claim evasion is useless and the more people focus on DR the less people will feel accuracy accessories are worth the investment. Evasion is only going to get better. This goes for PC and console.
@_immortalblackheart
@_immortalblackheart 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the console input. I used to run a kuno and nova so it made since to stay with dr before but I’ve tagged a striker now and am thinking that I need to swap over to evasion. I’m not really worried about pvp tbh with the siege changes the pvp scene kinda soured for me. So my big question would be does Evasion significantly outperform dr at spots like oluns and ash?
@tyleradams6990
@tyleradams6990 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh I NEED you to fill me in on how you're rocking that DP and AP cuz that's my end goal. Currently 264 266 370. And I have no clue how I'm gonna get to that scale. Is that with tungrads? Distos? Running a sicil neck by chance? I need to pick your brain lol.
@thunderpound680
@thunderpound680 2 жыл бұрын
@@tyleradams6990 oh yeah and pen sicils too
@tyleradams6990
@tyleradams6990 2 жыл бұрын
I'm all V gear. Need caphras. Got fallen god. Tet narcs. Tet rings and belt. And V sicil. I'm sure once I c10 everything I'll he alot closer to your insane numbers 😎😍 but still, without ricoking distos idk how I'm gonna hit close to 280 ap. Preesh man.
@KingJerbear
@KingJerbear 2 жыл бұрын
Another elite guide, you really are such a great teacher and the fact you do it all so clearly in English is impressive. Thanks for your hard work
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words again Jerbear!
@talhajarral7710
@talhajarral7710 Жыл бұрын
watching your videos makes me wanna play bdo again.
@DazePhase
@DazePhase 2 жыл бұрын
Great guide. Keep it up man. Subbed! 🙂
@Seiza_InSomnia
@Seiza_InSomnia 2 жыл бұрын
That was a really good explanation, but, for new or lost players, just 1 more tip: Even if u have hell of a good dr/eva build, u will still be oneshoted BeCauSe PA *drunk* ClaSs balAnCe kappa. I play mainly succ lahn for pve and pvp, regardless of our none existing pvp dmg and accuracy, i still get 2-shot by 281+ap classes even when i have 690 gs 391dp dr at the moment. I swapped my c9 DR to evasion at the caphras event ( i have pen bheg urugon muskan leebur), and yes, i felt a bit more tanky, but still 2-3shoted by any player at orcs/monastery/rbf etc. Even testing pvp arenas with some friends who went with 277ap, still managed to kill me with 1 combo on the ground, maybe 5 or 6 skills. So i came back to DR build for a better pve/acc dmg. Don't worry if u keep being oneshoted, sometimes ur class is not in a good shape at the moment due to class balance, choose the build u feel good with and go hard on it =)
@SkytheLP
@SkytheLP 2 жыл бұрын
Well it depends on your class, Gear and the enemys class and Gear. Lahn is a squishy class, a glas cannon. She deals good damage, but isnt that tanky. Try the same with a Mystic with your 391 DP and you see that she is alot more tanky. I am myself a Sorc main and i use DR Gear. She could be relativly tanky with Evasion, but wouldned deal the damage i want, so for me, DR is better. Its not necessary the class balancing that makes you get one shotted (even tho we are in a one shot meta anyway ^^), some classes are litterly alot more tanky then others. Thats because they designed that way. Problem is when those tanky classes also deals alot of damage, when others are one shotted when you just look at them.
@Seiza_InSomnia
@Seiza_InSomnia 2 жыл бұрын
@@SkytheLP Well, i know lahn is a glass canon, but her damage is not good enough (even more in succ at pvp, when u have only 5 skills, that don't cast fast enough to combo somebody on the ground and not enough pvp dmg to deal 5k hp dmg), not because is my main, but because she lacks a lot of acc on skills (she has 1-2-3% acc on skills average) and on top of that, PA keeps nerfing her, and in a meta of "oneshot" and SA trades, u can't trade as a glass canon, but also u can't oneshot with this lack of acc and pvp dmg. Other glass canon as assassins like ninja or kuno, waste much less stamina, have alot of CC to apply and tons of dmg. Ninjas can combo u on the floor and kill u with no problems at all with 4-5skills but me, with 10+ ap, can barely deal 80-85% of their dmg, both with DR builds... But ppl keep complaining about lahn grabs so nefs keep hitting us hard. I hope really PA balance the pvp dmg cc and this stuffs with the new ranked arena, where u can see how every class perform with the same exacts stats. Totally agree, the problem is super tank classes dealing more dmg than assasins.
@rubendiaz3452
@rubendiaz3452 2 жыл бұрын
@@Seiza_InSomnia ??? Lahn awakening pvp is meta what the hell are you on about? A few moves sure that hit like a truck, +10 combos on the discord, grabs and ccs like crazy?? You're high
@rubendiaz3452
@rubendiaz3452 2 жыл бұрын
@@Seiza_InSomnia she has just as many ccs to keep people down and hard hitting moves just like any other class, you need to do some studying
@Seiza_InSomnia
@Seiza_InSomnia 2 жыл бұрын
@@rubendiaz3452 Lahn awa maybe is meta in AoS where u only need to grab somebody to kill him, but not outside of that. I played lahn awa for 1 year, and right now i've been playing succ for 14-15 months, so i know what i'm talking about. I'm in touch with some really really really good korean lahns and they all are complaining about the same things, players with 730+ GS and some of them are rerolling from her because with that GS they can't face some classes in 1v1 and barely do something at nodes VS players with 720-730 Gs like them... She is not bad, but not as OP as most ppl claim dude. She only have 3 useful DS to keep ppl on the ground and none of them have more than 50% chances to land, u really need to be veeeeeery lucky to reset the CC chain and most of the times, as an assassin, u dont have enought damage to 100-0 some classes that got really tanky atm like valks, warriors, zerks, mystic etc. PLEASE, dont send me to study a class that i've been playing for 2 and a half years. TY =)
@zbigniewpolachowski3292
@zbigniewpolachowski3292 2 жыл бұрын
What about Hashashin after changes? Eva still playable or forced to go DR?
@lennartwijnen4321
@lennartwijnen4321 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for this video! Can u make one for the cups aswell?
@ZootedGamble
@ZootedGamble 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video thanks so much for the end game perspective I really needed to know especially being on console and not following pc as closely other than that the info was amazing as loved how u explained it.
@Tryk0n3x
@Tryk0n3x 2 жыл бұрын
Right? People often say, you have to build this, on this class. Or call you an idiot or some other names when you build Dr or evasion on certain classes (even if those classes are in the middle category). I like how BP can just look at this from a wider perspective and explain.
@fardrives
@fardrives Жыл бұрын
Hey man, i just wanted to say I really love your content. I usually sort comments by new and noticed you respond to questions regardless of how old the video is. I know you're a warrior main, but do you think Ninja should just start building evasion out the gate to save money or swap to it when ready(Pen c4 or higher)? I'm buying all my gear off the MP
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime Жыл бұрын
Hey, i do try my best to respond to any questions yes :) I think if you go about it in the correct order; Chest/Helmt > Gloves > Boots, then yeah you can and prolly should just go eva right out the gate when you are buying your PEN gear
@fardrives
@fardrives Жыл бұрын
@@BiceptimusPrime Thank you :D!!! One last question and i'll know where to go with gear planning. Is pen heve still a good place holder until Labreska?
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime Жыл бұрын
@@fardrives Nah green helmets is completely out of the gearing now. Just get your free pen from the Magnus quest, and then slowly work on buying the rest of your pen boss armors =)
@fardrives
@fardrives Жыл бұрын
@@BiceptimusPrime THANK YOU!!! agh i love you the amount of headache you've helped me 'evade' is truly priceless. I hope to catch your next stream!
@willfulmisfortune3679
@willfulmisfortune3679 2 жыл бұрын
Went evasion Awk Wiz, starting to develop, sitting at around 365 DP kutum/griffon/leebur/muskan/fallen god
@MarksFutureGains
@MarksFutureGains 2 жыл бұрын
ok cool vid but what about pve i am a warrior with 242 ap 244 aap and 293 dp playing longsword. what should I build for grinding mobs? I do not pvp
@richardhopkin845
@richardhopkin845 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@alanpanting4248
@alanpanting4248 2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much this helped heaps
@darkwizard1277
@darkwizard1277 2 жыл бұрын
What is better Eva or dr to maehwa
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Id def go eva in the current state of the game, atleast for endgame
@MagicBricklayers
@MagicBricklayers 2 жыл бұрын
As a baby warrior should go distos or narc im console and only 293 nouver atm so my pve is really low with kutum i have 1 narc and 1 tungrad both tet the narc is for the pen jetina quest
@cantezsevindik2409
@cantezsevindik2409 2 жыл бұрын
hi i have a question for you BP. i'm an awakening ranger with DR build and i wanna tag an another character and it's a kuno. it's my second main actually and i wanna play both. so can i play kuno with DR build? i'm not end game, just mid gear. i'm still get one shot when i fall on the ground so will there any different between DR and eva build for my kuno?
@rosz109
@rosz109 2 жыл бұрын
If Corsair has evasion class modifiers why wouldn’t it be put under evasion classes? As well with Awakening having the “mist” bonus which gives % evasion buffs on top of that.
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
I thought i explained this in the video? If i did it poorly let me know and ill try and expand on it!
@ChristianSL1989
@ChristianSL1989 Жыл бұрын
Hola y perdón pero no se hablar Ingles... pero con la opción de subtítulos lo explicaste muy bien casi como un profesor a sus alumnos y te entendí todo pues justamente soy Maegu y vengo de ser main Lahn Succ pero con DR y estoy haciendo la transición para EVASION y ya empecé con Muskan y luego iré por Livre y poco a poco pero muchas gracias te entendí todo en absoluto y saludos desde Perú.
@Nopeyourewrong557
@Nopeyourewrong557 Жыл бұрын
Does this video still apply even now ? Barely coming back to this game and I left when 1100 evasion was strong but now it seems like that is not enough anymore .. I main mystic and tagged a Lahn before I took a break but even the Lahn has better base stats of evasion than the mystic now .. kinda lost on what to do ..
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime Жыл бұрын
Yep, still apply - if anything more classes are in the evasion group now from the "can be both". If your class has evasion passives or buffs, you should prolly build evasion nowadays! =)
@droger1448
@droger1448 2 жыл бұрын
What ap would you recommend running a kite shield for example?
@laugH_Clipz
@laugH_Clipz 2 жыл бұрын
nice one again!
@ВячеславОдиноков-ш8т
@ВячеславОдиноков-ш8т 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, BP! How always best content! I like how you explain. But do I understood correct? That if u are in fight versus a lot enemies, then DR is better over evasion, because of amount if hits you can get? And with DR you have more AP or DMG than with evasion?
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
DR is, generally, better than Evasion in Large scale, because you deal more dmg. So if you hit more ppl, your higher dmg hits more players. But if you have more ppl hitting you, the increase in tankiness from Evasion isnt as noticeable. Hope that made sense =)
@xxxxxx2610
@xxxxxx2610 Жыл бұрын
What about Woosa and Maegu?
@blackscavenger4780
@blackscavenger4780 2 жыл бұрын
Hi BPGaming! This video was a good information video for me! :) May I ask you... Which weapon/skin are your warrior wearing at the outro? This greatsword looks very gorgeous!
@Tryk0n3x
@Tryk0n3x 2 жыл бұрын
Armor is glorious shudad. Weapon is arsha, for winning tournament and being the best warrior in NA
@blackscavenger4780
@blackscavenger4780 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tryk0n3x Nice one! Gratz for your hard work! :D
@Tryk0n3x
@Tryk0n3x 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackscavenger4780 not my hard work, I'm just letting you know what he got 🤣
@blackscavenger4780
@blackscavenger4780 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tryk0n3x Oh..didnt see that on the fly. ^_^'
@ninjaaesthetics4214
@ninjaaesthetics4214 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a 2023 version? Or early 2024 lol
@tomasrios400
@tomasrios400 2 жыл бұрын
For striker and eva, heve of griffo helmet ? Thanks for your time, u are helping me a lot!
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Griffon, because eventually you will turn it into a Labraska. If you follow the steps in the video you are going to be golden =)
@tomasrios400
@tomasrios400 2 жыл бұрын
@@BiceptimusPrime thanks! Im playing on console but I follow your advices anyway! I dont know when Labraska helmet will come but will go griffon! Greatings from Spain!!
@faithfulpath-j5s
@faithfulpath-j5s 2 жыл бұрын
Leebur or Bheg for Striker?
@Glement
@Glement 2 жыл бұрын
zerker should have his own category. hp class :)
@popsoul7647
@popsoul7647 2 жыл бұрын
for cruiser best dr or ev ?
@rox9415
@rox9415 5 күн бұрын
Hi, this still apply after the rework to evasion?
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 5 күн бұрын
Just build DR atm really. Its alot easier to switch builds nowadays than when i made this video too, so once you start doing endgame pvp and you decide if you wanna do an evasion build, its not that bad to switch.
@rox9415
@rox9415 5 күн бұрын
@BiceptimusPrime Thank you!! I just got back to the game and a lot has change lol
@ssvideolar8555
@ssvideolar8555 2 жыл бұрын
Guardian,giant,nova,lahn,striker,warrior,Musa,maehwa,drakania which one is stronger for PVE GRIND ?
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever class you can grind the longest on and still enjoy it. PvE isnt too much of a difference anymore.
@HazyKushlove
@HazyKushlove 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I missed it or not.. But do you have an explanation on why warriors can't run eva.. And if they can what would the build look like? Asking for endgame like ash, cypts etc.. nw/siege..
@HazyKushlove
@HazyKushlove 2 жыл бұрын
@fatherabbacchio that isn't true though
@HazyKushlove
@HazyKushlove 2 жыл бұрын
@fatherabbacchio that isn't true though
@chrismorgan1996
@chrismorgan1996 2 жыл бұрын
I play Sorceress and I am using DR build. It is not my playstyle fighting 1 v X or X v X. Most of the time I play 1 v 1 and since I have s I do not use evasion. I want burst DMG so I made balanced build using AP/Human DMG and Accuracy. I have only 575GS but it was fun mocking Striker with 680GS.
@Tryk0n3x
@Tryk0n3x 2 жыл бұрын
Sorc is one of those classes that she would be an amazing evasion class if she actually needed defense. A good sorc will soak most of the DMG onto her s. So... If you don't need defense that much, you can focus more on ap/accu/human DMG and get a dr set. Completely agreed
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! Its the reason i like to use Sorc as an example, because its one of the classes that is very well understood to be super powerful building DR/dmg on! But it dosnt mean you cant, or should't, build evasion =) If it fits your playstyle/content, then building dr is exactly what you should do!
@EmpyreanDreamer
@EmpyreanDreamer 2 жыл бұрын
Either 575gs was a typo or that striker was clueless and running some paper DR build. Aint no way a 575 sorc is killing 680 strikers who build and play properly, not unless your down smash RNG is god like enough to keep him cc'd for 5-6 combos and even then the odds aren't on your side unless he's afk with no pots.
@Tryk0n3x
@Tryk0n3x 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmpyreanDreamer he said mocking, not killing... So I assumed he just wasted striker's time iframing around
@chrismorgan1996
@chrismorgan1996 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmpyreanDreamer I know what I am typing. That Striker was not good, but he was tanky. Thing is that I know how to build and buff my sorc. So yeah, 100gs difference was real.
@impacts6362
@impacts6362 2 жыл бұрын
Just want to add onto your video wit the Dr and Eva chart, classes like kuno, Sorc, ninja and Corsair have Eva passives can scale high Eva as well, I used to play full Eva succ Corsair was very tanky and hit hard back then when succession was op jus saying
@kemp5866
@kemp5866 2 жыл бұрын
bdo legend, cheers
@ther3alenso
@ther3alenso 2 жыл бұрын
What about for strictly PvE ? Does it matter ?
@joneszim680
@joneszim680 2 жыл бұрын
I dont get the point at 5:25. 10% is 10%, no matter how many ppl hit you. If you evade 10% of 1 guys hits =10% surviveability, then you also evade 10% of the hits of each of the 10 ppl hitting you which also results in 10% surviveability. Doesnt make sense to me.
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Lets say you have 1000hp, and you gain 100 more (10%). If 1 guy is hitting you, he has to deal 100 more dmg than before to kill you. If 2 guys are hitting you, they only need to deal 50 more dmg each to kill you, than they did before.
@joneszim680
@joneszim680 2 жыл бұрын
@@BiceptimusPrime Hey BP, ye you are right. Ive kinda mixed the meaning of tankyness with surviveability in this case. It suffered a little in translation into my language 😀 Nice video bro and thank you!
@Jmontastic
@Jmontastic 2 жыл бұрын
As a new player with V tuvala, can we start building towards evasion or stick with the “safe” option in DR.. then switch later on when we can grind in 600mil/hr spots…. I dont know what to do. Help
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
My updated "Season To Endgame" gearing guide is coming out next week! It should answer all your questions and concerns =) But, yes, you can go straight from tet dr gear, to pen evasion. There are a few things you want to keep in mind, and i show all of those in the video. Should be out on Tuesday
@miguelgastao4527
@miguelgastao4527 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! could you make a new review once awk Drakania is released please? She has so many new things and there will be many more
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah ill prolly be making some more Drakania content in the future!
@sunfire1484
@sunfire1484 2 жыл бұрын
@@BiceptimusPrime Yay for more Drakania content!
@ximoroca2974
@ximoroca2974 2 жыл бұрын
a little addon regarding accuracy offhand, at least lahns also has high evasion stats. So it synergises very well with evasion builds, when ever an evasion build needs that extra accuracy using the accuracy offhand also gets you higher evasion stats for the build.
@86leorios
@86leorios 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, i back to the game in the last month. I`m a striker with a musah tagged. I have 282/337 and i`m a little lost about DR or EVA. For now my concern is about PVE and when i get 680+ it is gonna be pvp and pve. So, should i got evasion since now (i know with this gs evasion is meme but playing i can improve till it be good) or should i go DR until C12 and switch to eva then? Ty btw
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
I did a video on the scaling of Evasion (the evasion pvp guide on my channel). The TLDR is that, if you do it in the right order, you will NOT be less tanky than DR when building evasion at any point. But, you are right you wont be actually tanky, untill later on. Musa and Striker are both amazing as Eva, so i would be going that route if i were you. Watch my Evasion guide on how to build it, but id go eva straight away at pen gear, no need to swap at c12
@HaroldKimTV
@HaroldKimTV 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video related to ACCURACY build?
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5XVkmqGra5rb7M
@AlvaroCardero
@AlvaroCardero 2 жыл бұрын
actually this guide still working for the hashashin?
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Hash changed a bit since then, and can be played both ways for sure now.
@_immortalblackheart
@_immortalblackheart 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton for another great video! This is something that I’ve never been quite clear on and coming back into the game I needed some direction so thanks a ton for the clarification! One thing that I don’t believe mentioned was pve. I’m on a succ kuno with dr gear: 297ap/357dp and I want to start getting into ash forest and oluns more. Does evasion or dr have a clear advantage in either of the areas?
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Evasion has an advantage for those spots specifically, even on DR classes! I do have an Ash Forest guide worth checking out! Just note, that it was made before Artifacts, so by adding them in with a proper setup, you can lower your reqs quite abit =)
@_immortalblackheart
@_immortalblackheart 2 жыл бұрын
@@BiceptimusPrime that’s really good to know, thanks a bunch again. I’m on console so we are still waiting on labreska and artifacts… and drakania. XD I’ll probably roll my gear then because any bit of survivability I can get there will just make my life easier. Thanks again brother!
@Yitsh
@Yitsh 2 жыл бұрын
Hi BP, thanks for making this video. It has been something on my mind a lot recently. I wanted to ask, do you think it would be possible to go evasion on awakening nova for pve and have it work well? Obviously, not to the extent that a class with evasion passives would, but I think the idea of evasion is very charming and am wondering if I could make it work. Thanks again!
@itachi9786
@itachi9786 2 жыл бұрын
Evasion after full c9 makes you tankier in pve for any class (except in the new gyfin spot)
@Tryk0n3x
@Tryk0n3x 2 жыл бұрын
Surprising to see Evasion vs DR video when I yesterday went over analyzing myself if I should go evasion or not, right now 660 GS DR awake musa. For now I'll hold it off I guess until c9 (im c7, c10 helmet ready for upgrade and tri fallen god). I worry just that if I swapped now my 294ap with kutum wouldn't be enough to hurt anyone anymore :D If I somehow managed to finally get 7 more ap to get over 301 ap then I wouldn't worry and go ahead, but for now I am holding it off... Need at least 301K and c9 on armors. Great video as usual \o/ SLOW GAMER GANG
@JonModafokin1
@JonModafokin1 2 жыл бұрын
Bro i kill people 700 gs people with green offhand 277ap but i play hash , dont know about musa but i know that ap doesnt matter as much , you just have to hit 1/2 more skills and its gonna be the same dmg
@Tryk0n3x
@Tryk0n3x 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonModafokin1 apparently Musa now has better accu than hash after rework and addition of eradicate, so I don't worry that much about accuracy. Tho I feel like in EU we have more prevalence for DR builds, so lowering your ap is a bit of a no-no
@cain7925
@cain7925 2 жыл бұрын
im evasion musa with 301ap, he still hits like a truck even with evasion build
@gadulboyo8135
@gadulboyo8135 2 жыл бұрын
Im kunoici, am i going kutum or nouver?
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Evasion: Kutum DR: Nouver PvP, Kutum PvE If you go evasion or DR i cant answer. I try to give you the tools to decide yourself in the video.
@KaL1806
@KaL1806 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Evasion Lahn and have to say, that Crypt is hell for me. It seems like the Monsters have so much Accuracy, that i basically get hit every time. I thought about switching to DR because i want to play Drakania, but decided to use my Drakania only for grinding for now. I just don't know if switching to DR is a good idea. I should have switched during the Caphras Event, now i would loose billions on Caphras. Good video, u explained it really good. I do think tho, that DR is better for the classes in the middle, when u do mostly PvE. When u do PvP and or use Nouver, u loose too much AP when using the Accuracy Offhand for Crypt tho.
@JonModafokin1
@JonModafokin1 2 жыл бұрын
... evasion builds are for ashforest , dr are for crypt i think thats a general rule in the bdo community?
@Tryk0n3x
@Tryk0n3x 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonModafokin1 until you need 2 spots to get rich merchant ring 🤣
@itachi9786
@itachi9786 2 жыл бұрын
But evasion is better for ash and olun If you wanna grind crypt you can tag a striker temporary lahn will be squishy even with dr
@PanjolArt
@PanjolArt 2 жыл бұрын
wait... you have to go with nouver if you build DR? man i can't sell my pen kutum because it was a season gears. sorry i'm kinda new to the game.
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
You still want a Kutum for pve! So no worries about that =) If you are DR, you want Nouver for pvp, and a kutum for pve. If you are evasion, you use kutum for both.
@auisthia
@auisthia 2 жыл бұрын
How about using kutum in a dr build. Is it bad even if i'm at 309ap bracket?
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
I ran that myself for quite a while (sold my PEN nouver too). I lost a bit of "pvp power" but i gained a massive "pve power" by doing it. I used to run 2x pen narc and nouver, and i was 309ap, but i was only 297ap in pve because i would run narcs + kutum. So i switched to run DR with Distos, and kutum, so i was 305ap in both pvp AND pve. I dont regret it. So its an option, but expect to lose a bit of value in pvp, but you gain the advantage of not losing ap when grinding.
@auisthia
@auisthia 2 жыл бұрын
@@BiceptimusPrime Exaclty I have same reason too,I don't want having 2 tet disto sitting in my inventory just for pve and caphrasing 2 offhands is very expensive just to reach some brackets. The only problem i have is that i can't use crystal other than corrupted for my offhand.
@joe3683
@joe3683 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for making this. For those of us who are super casual - would you suggest simply going DR? Like I've played on and off for years, but I'm just now 600 gs. I'm at that point where I'm deciding which path to take, but I always hear that DR is the way to go until late, late game. Has that changed with artifacts? It seems like you can easily hit 700 eva without c9 stuff anymore which seems to be the universally accepted starting point for eva.
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think either could be fine. DR is the "safe" way to build, cus you can just put on a Nouver and you are gaining alot of AP to hit the high brackets, that for pvp will help alot. It's only after 305-309 ap with nouver, that that value decreases. But for pve, it dosnt matter, since you will be using Kutum on both builds anyway! As you noticed, the Artifacts helps alot at building up Evasion numbers early on, so you will be more tanky with evasion even at c9. But if its worth the dmg trade off in pvp, thats up to you!
@-zerodoze7124
@-zerodoze7124 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing that is important is the green evasion offhand, not all classes have it... So if your class has it, maybe you can meme kids with pepega evasion build KEKW
@Cloak39
@Cloak39 2 жыл бұрын
2022.07~ no more evasion on hashashin
@EmpyreanDreamer
@EmpyreanDreamer 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much spot on, only a few things I disagree on. Musa and mae really don't have an excuse to avoid going evasion anymore, it just makes way more sense. Tamer also should probably be in the DR or evasion category, her damage is nuts even at lower ap and her accuracy is solid, of course given they have no buff and passive you'll need to be very high gear before its a good idea. You could make exactly the same argument for awa ranger too. Lastly Hash goes in the DR or eva group now. He still scales really well with evasion but he lost his 12% accuracy debuff and his accuracy passive which makes DR a far more appealing choice now.
@kevinsamaraweera4784
@kevinsamaraweera4784 2 жыл бұрын
I run eva, full ap accessories with accuracy sub. Works better than kutum. This might change when fallen god sub wepon come though. So until that, accuracy sub ftw ❤️
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, that offhand is a gamechanger! I have one to throw on when needed too, and my lord its so good :D
@tainle
@tainle 2 жыл бұрын
accuracy sub you are refering to Blackstar Horn Bow as example?
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
@@tainle Yes
@Ouwak
@Ouwak 2 жыл бұрын
Right now you need gs 700+ for pvp or you get one hit.
@tyleradams6990
@tyleradams6990 2 жыл бұрын
I always get different information on eva vs dr and this was a very thorough and well thought out video. Much appreciated my man. By chance would you know what strikers base eva buff is? As a passive buff is it always running? These aspects confuse me.
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
So there are a few different things i mention: Passives: These are in your skill tree, and they give passive stats. Always running. Actives: These are skills that, when used, will give you a buff which will increase your evasion for the duration. Base stats: If you open your inventory and click "view my stats" you can see your "Character(Base)" stats. Im honestly not sure which of the abilities on striker gives you the evasion buff, but i know its there :D time to read through the skills ;)
@caddycheon
@caddycheon 2 жыл бұрын
I tried drakania Eva on Ghyfin it is really good ngl...But PVP well I get easily smashed in RBF
@zenshulighting8887
@zenshulighting8887 2 жыл бұрын
i play her in eva, try to go meme with nouver
@tunperak1256
@tunperak1256 2 жыл бұрын
Why shai is good with evasion? She don't have evasion passive skill.
@Tryk0n3x
@Tryk0n3x 2 жыл бұрын
Not like she scales with ap, and if she doesn't scale with DMG then getting Dr build which is DMG focused is pointless, Dr also isn't scalable, it falls off hard after certain point where evasion gets better and better the more you have. We all know Shai is a weak evasion class, but technically it's all she can build to be viable in PvP (large scale)
@peterwaugh2998
@peterwaugh2998 2 жыл бұрын
U didn’t mention the advantages of human damage with dr builds high ap, high accuracy and human
@アヒル君
@アヒル君 2 жыл бұрын
why NINJA not evasion bro?
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
It can go both, like i explained in the video :)
@アヒル君
@アヒル君 2 жыл бұрын
@@BiceptimusPrime i look all bro thanks so good idea
@YANOS192
@YANOS192 Жыл бұрын
you forgot maegu my friend
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime Жыл бұрын
The video is from before that class came out :>
@YANOS192
@YANOS192 Жыл бұрын
@@BiceptimusPrime oh mb !! tnks for the video anyways
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime Жыл бұрын
@@YANOS192 np :) and maegu is evasion, btw!
@YANOS192
@YANOS192 Жыл бұрын
@@BiceptimusPrime thank you !! even if i'm new ? i should go evasion ?
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime Жыл бұрын
@@YANOS192 You should check my gearing guide on how to do it, but tldr is go dr with tet gear (change your tuvala boots to urugons, you can do that at Jetina after you grad from season), and once you go for PEN, go pen chest -> helmet -> gloves -> boots in that order, and yes at that point you can go for leeburs and muskans once you swap to pen
@jamesvalmoria96
@jamesvalmoria96 2 жыл бұрын
wow this content 99.9% tru
@ZootedInc
@ZootedInc 2 жыл бұрын
Did he just make a whole video and at the end just say if I am any of the DR or evasion classes I'm goin evasion?? So.... wtf
@j.d.4697
@j.d.4697 Жыл бұрын
It's extremely depressing how every class in this game only has 2-3 builds. Where is the customization? Where is the freedom? Maybe they should have spent less time on jelly boobs and flashy combat and more on adding actual substance to combat and characters. But I guess it's not surprising from the country where a cosmetic surgery voucher is the standard birthday present to 14-year-old girls.
@FraoZehel
@FraoZehel 2 жыл бұрын
wait. shai. evasion... really?
@BananaBunny_
@BananaBunny_ 2 жыл бұрын
TBH endgame is pretty much dead for an evasion build (I'm talking about Crypt).
@Agressive_mode
@Agressive_mode 6 ай бұрын
Ranger dr? O_o “oh nooo”
@souravguchait8890
@souravguchait8890 2 жыл бұрын
Man if u would upload this video a day ago i could hold myself wasting 22b on bheg and urugon on guarantee pens :((...am a awk hash btw Zz
@MyManJohnny
@MyManJohnny 2 жыл бұрын
Unless they move ninja's evasion selfbuff to a skill that has 10 or less second cooldown it's just not worth it to build evasion. In awakening that is. Succession does a lot more SA trading so you could argue that it will benefit from evasion way more. The 9% is a huge difference and without it you're unlikely to survive..
@zeneto80
@zeneto80 2 жыл бұрын
Be like me and have both kekw
@makakavideo
@makakavideo 2 жыл бұрын
Dr building is very bad if not Valkyrie or rdd class. evasion build is bater .
@emptyBuck3t
@emptyBuck3t 2 жыл бұрын
Playing with 290k evazion Archer. And i will continue to play evazion. Ofc all say dr better for archer,but ... 😅
@MsGhoulz
@MsGhoulz 2 жыл бұрын
Meh I'm too lazy and poor to even get nouver.
@miguelchang5520
@miguelchang5520 2 жыл бұрын
When fighting a magic user such as Wizard, Witch or Sorceress their attacks ignore evasion and you only depend on DR. This has been proven on Ninjas fighting Wizards and Wizards killing them each time.
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
That is not how that works. I suggest you check out my Accuracy and Evasion guides for a better understanding of the mechanics! It can be a bit confusing at times, the game really dosnt do a great job and explaining how these things work
@Flosstradamuss
@Flosstradamuss 2 жыл бұрын
If you don’t have evasion passive or evasion self buffs, you’re wasting time building evasion.
@mlwlan
@mlwlan 2 жыл бұрын
Its simple. Dr is big chad build. Evasion is just cringe build for insecure players
@mlwlan
@mlwlan 2 жыл бұрын
​@fatherabbacchio with my gs it really doesnt matte rif you have evasion or dr, ill one shot you anyways but regardless evasion is still cringe as fuck
@zenshulighting8887
@zenshulighting8887 2 жыл бұрын
gs ?
@mlwlan
@mlwlan 2 жыл бұрын
@fatherabbacchio people who run evasion build evasion to evade damage that should've hit them. Let's say player a who runs evasion gets cc'd because he's the worse player. Gets knockdown and evades all damage done to him. Gets up wins the fight. While player b who runs Dr can just accept the loss because no matter if he knocks him down again hell just evade all damage again and lose again. So yeh evasion is just cringe for insecure shitter's and virgin striker players. Look at divios for example sure hes good with his class but he can tank 4 people with 700+ gs and he still won't die. Like bruh. Don't tell me evasion ain't cringe
@mlwlan
@mlwlan 2 жыл бұрын
@fatherabbacchio sorc? What makes you think I main sorc. I main maewha since 2018
@mlwlan
@mlwlan 2 жыл бұрын
@fatherabbacchio aight whatever you say.
@visoroverwatch3247
@visoroverwatch3247 2 жыл бұрын
ppl still play this game? lol.
@gamerrex953
@gamerrex953 2 жыл бұрын
Qustion how do you add 15+ all evasion from my sorc passive with out the e buff of plus 15 i have 1060 evasion so how do you add it
@BiceptimusPrime
@BiceptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
You can check my actual Evasion Guide about how the math works, its linked in the description. Im not entirely sure what you are asking tho, but how it all works with different type of buffs and values are explained in that video. Hope it helps! =)
Jaidarman TOP / Жоғары лига-2023 / Жекпе-жек 1-ТУР / 1-топ
1:30:54
Andro, ELMAN, TONI, MONA - Зари (Official Audio)
2:53
RAAVA MUSIC
Рет қаралды 8 МЛН
Kutum Vs. Nouver in PvE & PvP | Black Desert Online
7:53
Im Choice
Рет қаралды 48 М.
YOU CHOOSE - Evasion vs DR BDO (the final answer)
13:31
What The Black Desert NEW Player Experience in 2024 is like.
1:13:00
BlueSquadron
Рет қаралды 138 М.
BDO Ultimate Awakening Sorceress Guide (Reboot)
15:34
Heedun
Рет қаралды 162 М.
Choosing What Class to Play in Black Desert Online
6:36
MistaWigglez
Рет қаралды 217 М.
Black Desert Get Rich Quick Schemes NOBODY Will Tell You!
44:14
BlueSquadron
Рет қаралды 84 М.
Jaidarman TOP / Жоғары лига-2023 / Жекпе-жек 1-ТУР / 1-топ
1:30:54