Biesse Rover 24: How To Run A Program The First Time

Biesse Rover 24 has an internal post processor that is accessed through the "editor" in the xnc software included with Biesse. This is an older machine and therefore all programs need to be opened in the editor on the machines PLC (Programmable Logic Controller) and the saved. The changes that are made by the editor are not seen, however the editor is assigning parameters in the program nevertheless. Please leave comments and like the video!
Here are a couple links I found for artCam from deprecated AutoDesk software that have the basic structure for the post processors for different types of Biesse machines:
Scroll to the bottom of this linked page and download the Biesse.zip file...
forums.autodesk.com/t5/artcam...
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[@nikroman3102]

Hey ! very interesting video thanks! could you please describe the version of the alpha cam program and the post processor in which alpha cam works.

[@erma4033]

Hello, you can make a video on how to add a new spindle to the list and the programming process. xnc system ?

[@chriskosar3960]

Do you know how to program the CNC to do a bowl like cut? Like a downwards Z axis cut that goes back upwards ... ? I use the programs, Autocad for the drawings, then ASPAN for the CAM (but there are no controls for a downwards curve cut) ?

[@rolandalcos3509]

gd,day sir im first timer to operate the cnc rover 24 s machine can u teach me how to change the tool blade

[@darynwaldner976]

I installed a new hard drive on a rover b machine now i keep getting a plc is not running error?

[@shaikhraziq1577]

v nice sir

[@JayaKumar-xj9dj]

hai raja baba

[@JayaKumar-xj9dj]

sir i want one help i am using rower 24 s cnc machine

[@whassan1000]

Great video, thank you .. wish you can post more regarding the operation of this machine. Can you change the interface language of the software? Do you have the manuals for this machine in English ?

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Hi Wael! Look in the comments in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2azp2ydeZuniNk and click on the kzbin.info?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbDJWc3hyN01KZ0NqTTNFN25NQTFTX1lLaXI0QXxBQ3Jtc0ttUHNJQjZ3MVo3aWZ2SjRTTFpFaU1CaGNGdk8ySzNWeEV1WTBDMzNSekFvNFZnc3c1RVlzeEQzcHlydHJCaUY4QnBESHN4dHdZeHd3bGhOUHF5b2pSTGpCS0RBR2lGc2FwY1A3NzBjckMzQnlxaGpkZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.autodesk.com%2Fautodesk%2Fattachments%2Fautodesk%2F218%2F17375%2F1%2Fxnc-12-manual.pdf link.

[@ajhofer7443]

How do you build a program in niesse editor to resurface a spoil board? I have a Rover B

[@EdRusi]

Thank you for the great video. I have a couple of questions. Did your machine come with a computer and windows XP on it? Or did you modify and add the pc part to it. I have one that looks like DOS, and was wondering if I can add Windows to it, or upload a different UI?

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Hi EdRusi! The computer came with the machine and it already had Win XP installed. What NC software version are you on? What machine are you running? Is a Rover 24 like the one in the videos? I know Biesse sells a new computer but they run XP on a virtual box because the software that is needed to run the machines is so old. I am running NC1000. I don't know what NC500 looks like but I know it exists. Let me know and thanks for checking in!

[@TheLenors]

Hello to all nice CNC people. I have question regarding Biesse Rover 24 s. My friend recently baught one (used). The question is, what are system requirrments for PC/computer to run this CNC? Someone told that Intel 'Intel® Q35 Express Chipset' is mandatory, but I do not really believe that. Will Biesse Rover 24 s work on windows 10 and any up to date chipset, Intel or AMD? Or there actually are some special requirements? Thank you!

[@shankrya482]

Ur not show the machinig operation...? Only program selection demo ..?

[@bhushansairise3872]

Please tell me sir how's the define tool process

[@shpatsejdiu8948]

Im 14y boy and my dad is a bussines man who already got this machine... and I want to know if there is a easier way that i can learn programing this rover 30 cnc

[@yitzchokhonig2827]

What pump are you using I’m having issues I’m getting a error of insufficient vacuume LH just when I want to surface my spoiler board

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Hello Yitzchok! This is likely a faulty or loose sensor in the table base. Remove the lower green plastic covers to the table. Clean out all the dust that might have fallen in and is covering the group of solenoids. Then look to the right of the solenoids (where all the air hoses are coming together) there should be a black rubber cover with two wires coming out. It covers a sensor at the bottom near the front. Pull the black rubber cover off the sensor and push the wires onto the sensor. Even if they are making contact, sometimes they need to be wiggled. Try to run the program again. There is a sensor just like this at the RH side of the table, too. They are glitchy and I have had to mess with them for years. Good Luck and let me know if this worked!!!

[@yitzchokhonig2827]

@@thecrazycncguy7500 Juat thought you should know that there is a small screw between the two wires that connect on the top of the sensor if you loosen it it lowers the amount of vacuume that triggers the sensor

[@lachlangibbs-lz1gb]

Hey mate. Great videos, really helpful, I have a rover 24 with nc1000 controller. Having an issue where I can't find the files when I go to run a program that I have saved from Aspire. The files are definetely in the right folder but the editor wont update the folder even though I have pressed refresh etc. Any idea what the issue may be. Thanks again

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Hey Lachlan! My first thought is that there are two folders named very similarly. If you are for sure the editor is looking in the correct folder my only other thought is the issue that Win XP has with file names. if you have the wrong extentions (yourfile.anc) then it may not see the file. Likewise if the file name has spaces in it like (your file.anc) it won't work or if you have extra dots like (your.file.anc) that won't work either. When I teach young people that have never dealt with XP they look at me crosseyed and think I'm just being OCD about file naming structure. Then they run in to these types of problems. Look for a guide for Win XP file naming rules and see if any of these are being broken. An example name of a file I might send is as follows: JOB_1234_1of4_3qtrPLY.anc which translates as the job name / job number / first of four sheets of code / material to be cut. Hope this helps!

[@lachlangibbs-lz1gb]

@thecrazycncguy7500 Thanks heaps. You were right. There was a duplicate folder hidden deep in the computer, took ages to find it. Thanks again. I'm using aspire software, any tips on getting the tooling correct. Biesse saying there's a magazine error, programmed tools unavailable, what am I doimg wrong. Any help would be awesome, complete newbie haha

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

@@lachlangibbs-lz1gb the name of the tool in the Aspire tool table has to match the name in the Biesse. Go into the tooling in Aspire and find something like "tool notes" or "Details" Also - go to the Biesse and find the tool in the tool table and write down exactly how it is named. That's the name you have to give the tools in your programming software. See if this video helps....kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5-ckoiIj8RqaNE

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

@@lachlangibbs-lz1gb Also - where are you located? I'm in the USA near Chicago.

[@lachlangibbs-lz1gb]

@@thecrazycncguy7500 Hey mate. From Australia so along way away. I had to type the tool name into the code manually in editor, so not sure what I was doing wrong in aspire itself. Now I have another error code "220. Speed or acceleration nil". So I'm assuming I have to change the code somewhere to set the speed or acceleration. No idea how though. Any tips?

[@jurgenpluijm272]

i have a question about this video i have tried to transfer the anc file from alphacam to the biesse rover 24 but i can't get it started what am i doing i have done the same as you

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Did you open the anc program in the EDITOR and save it? What Error are you getting?

[@dharampaul5386]

i am in dubai i have 16 year experience on rover 24 and malti cam

[@alphacamandcabinetvisionwa8142]

What is the procedure to run a Biesse Nesting Machine ( like A FT 1531)?Do you have a video for that?

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Sorry - I only have experience with the Rover 24.

[@4246rodney]

Hi , good videos I have a biesse rover 24. , but it not recognizing the tool any ideas

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

@@4246rodney Hi There! It sounds like you are in the tool loading nightmare that can happen with performing manual tool changes. - Are you getting the error of "No tool in spindle - Tool it up!" in the ERRORS window?

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Sorry I only know about the ROVER 24

[@4246rodney]

Hi will try it thanks

[@ArlindKaraj]

I just got a biesse rover b7 and learning how to create a program,is there any easy way how to create a program,or can any of them be found ready on internet for example??

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Hi Arlind! Unfortunately each machine that I've ever worked on has such a different setup that I would not want to share actual code produced for a different machine - even if it is the exact same model. I am planning on making a video on showing how to make code but you will have to have your biesse tools and post processor programs defined before you can make code for your machine. Did your machine come with any software to make shapes / parts? AutoCAD, AlphaCAM, Fusion 360, Rhino 5, BiesseWorks? Any of those?

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

What software came with the machine?

[@ArlindKaraj]

The Crazy CNC Guy yeah it came with biesse works and some kind of autocad but modified for biesse and it misses a lot of tools of autocad, i wanted to see if i could find a simple way to make different forms for creating the program

[@ArlindKaraj]

you see the only problem here is the shapes,with biesse program i can create simple shapes but not the complicated ones..

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Hi Arlind - So most people generate the shapes in autocad (try FreeCAD if you don't have AutoCAD - download freeCAD and draw your parts and be sure to draw a 96" x 48" sheet with the bottom left corner at X0,Y0) Then save your cad drawing - DXF or whatever and import it into BiesseWorks. I don't have BiesseWorks but it sounds like you can produce tool paths with it. I found this on line...I hope it helps "We imported the DXF files into Biesseworks using the manual import function, and then assigned router functions to the geometry on each DXF layer. The buttons to use are on the bottom of the Biesseworks screen. You can route, drill, pocket. You can also set the tool path to the left, right or center of the line, set tool depth, speed, feed rate, etc. Material is set up on the first box on the left side toolbar. After you finish toolpathing, click the magic wand tool to optimize, and then run a simulation. You can also send the optimized toolpath to your machine with a button on the left side. If you have difficultites with optimization its typically an error with a tool path or a problem with the DXF file geometry. Often if I was not able to mill a pocket due to geometry errors, I chose route instead, and used an offset to mill the pocket. Either that or I fixed the file in Autocad. When you import, if the imported geometry doesnt fit your material, you can either redraw the DXF file in ACad to have a 0.0 origin, or right click in the import side of the screen, and select move, center horizontal or vertical to get the geometry positioned on the material. When you import from Acad, you need to be sure to convert drawings to polylines. If you don't, Biesse will create a separate line segment out of each Acad line segment, causing the router to lift and replunge at each segment start instead of running a continuous tool path. Also, if areas to be pockets are not closed geometry, Biesseworks will give you an error message if you try to optimize a pocketing toolpath. Biesseworks has a great functionality in that you can turn on and off each individual milling operation by selecting/deselecting the tool path in the list on the left. For example if you need to drill holes on some units, but not others, you can simply click off the holes you don't want to drill. Similarly, its very easy to restart a file where you left off by simply unchecking the tool path for each item that has already been cut. Most programs, like Artcam, would require you to either edit the Gcode or rewrite the program to accomplish this. Its a good program, but has a big weakness in the CAD department- its NOT a CAD program really. But it does provide good control over the Biesse rover."

[@rfelixfelix3340]

Good night, the cpu hard disk damaged and I lost the software. where can I get the software to install again? .The machine is the Biesse Rover 30. Thanks.

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Rfelix Felix...I think the only place to get it is from Biesse directly. What country are you in? If you have the machine serial number they are pretty good about machine support. Good luck my friend

[@SebastianFarias]

Hello, I have a BIESSE ROVER 24 machine, with a windows 2000 server computer with 256mb of ram, and it suggested the need to update the computer hardware, do you know about compatibility with newer hardware?, thanks for the help. ..

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Biesse America said that they have an upgraded computer system. They sent me a quote for it and it is a new computer running the software in a virtual box running XP. If you have the Serial number for the machine you should be able to call your Biesse customer support and get an upgrade that will work well with your existing machine. I hope this helps!!!

[@SebastianFarias]

@@thecrazycncguy7500 Hello, thanks for your answer, at the moment I'm trying VECTRIC Aspire on Windows 10, I still can't connect to the machine via ethernet

[@marcinwilbrandt6244]

Hey There I have the same machine. I hope u can help me. I have a message : set of contactors not reset. at least one of contactor has remained enabled. I searched whole machine and didn't notic any contactor :S

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Sorry I missed your comment! I haven't been on here in months. Did you get it figured out? I hope so.

[@futureorkun]

I need an alphacam post file for biesse rover 22. Can you share?

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

What is the head unit software you are running? XNC?

[@safarimasu]

Hello I have got one Biesse rover 346 but I cannot run it, any one who can help me on basics.please help me ,

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Hi Saeed. What point are you stuck at? Does the machine start up? Does it not home? Are you wanting to know how to write a program? LMK I will help if I can.

[@dharampaul5386]

this is special pro.for lock

[@shaikhraziq1577]

where are u from sir you have Biesse cnc rover worq you have job sir

[@shaikhraziq1577]

i have 7 years experience im cnc rover programming

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Hi raju baba. We already have two people programming so we are not in need of help. Hope your search is fruitful!

[@adilmounir3584]

المرجو رقمك اخي عندي مشكل في النوع من الماكينة وارجو المساعدة...

[@ricewinner2596]

bControl🕺any experience with it?

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

No. I've been on xnc1000 with no exposure to B

[@jurpik35]

OMG! These programs look like from year 1997 . But thats OK - its easier to script automate them

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

For sure! The Biesse I am running is 18 years old and runs on software designed before 2000. The main PLC runs WinXP. I think a lot of people are getting these machines at a bargain but have a serious learning curve to step back in time 20 years! Hope the video helps!

[@shaikhraziq1577]

sir im cnc opreter rover

[@hadermejiamercado3531]

Puede pasar tutoriaal en espanol

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

¡Hola Hader! Comencé a agregar subtítulos para que la gente pueda copiar el inglés en Google Translate. ¿Qué tutorial te gustaría?

[@thecrazycncguy7500]

Busque los tres puntos junto a compartir y guardar en la esquina inferior derecha del video. Haga clic en los tres puntos. ¿Ves algo como "Transcripción abierta"? Si lo ve, copie el inglés y péguelo en un traductor. ¡Espero que esto ayude!

[@MAJORyurix]

no need to close editor, never done that, go to Services TAB / Select program and it goes to queue look @ PDF manual "interdoors.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/xnc-1-2-manual-2.pdf" page 74 in my mind every Biesse cnc operator should read it at least one time