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[@William_W]

I commented before Biffa did! Haha!

[@AgentX2006]

In US school zones are usually limited to 15 MPH when children are present and most surface streets are 25 or 35 MPH, multiple lane roads are 35-55 MPH and highways are 55-70+ MPH. Texas State Highway 130 has the highest speed limit in the country at 85 MPH.

[@C2K777]

One way the traffic around the industries area and just cut the connection to the crossroads out of the area OR ban good vehicles on the last section before the intersection. This will force all heavy goods traffic to use the road along the cliff. As you have two roads I'd also change them into 1 ways with the cliff road being the road going back to the new junction and the the other the ingress route. The games mechanics will NEVER push traffic that far in the opposite direction otherwise.

[@KarinaRadkin]

Thanks for letting us know about this! Was thinking of buying some DLC soon so lucky me PLUS I get to support Biffa and charity!!

[@Hayatory]

@@AgentX2006 here in CA school zones are 25 mph with children present

[@rachelgilbert3164]

It would be cool to save those ruins at the top of that hill, and make it a national historic park or point of interest for tourism!

[@Tim_van_de_Leur]

As a tourist in the UK, I think every rock older than 100 years is part of the national heritage fund ;)

[@superdangofreq]

Kettling Castle

[@waddy5000]

Like edinburgh castle!

[@CJLloyd]

Definitely need an English Heritage site around those ruins atop the hill by the Trumpet. With motorway access like that, they would get a ton of visitors! :D

[@sjacpswbs03162005]

I suggest to turn some of the dorms around so their backyards face each other - also maybe they could have a rival uni on top of the hill! They can preserve the abbey ruins as an archeological site and maybe we could build a castle on top of that hill as well since it overlooks a river which would’ve made sense to establish something.

[@sjacpswbs03162005]

(This may or may not be a durham vs Newcastle situation)

[@bamboo782]

Great to have back glad you had a nice time away with the family .

[@livixxxhimym]

I think the two universities makes sense. I feel like a humanities focused campus where you have it and then maybe a more trade school focused campus that we 'pretend' are the same uni works. You could even put them right next to each other. Look at Leeds for an example: it's goes straight from old buildings to brutalist

[@YiorgosAngelopoulos]

Great episode, once again! I think it cries for a Lib Arts University between the ancient Olde Blyghtea Castle archeological site (maybe waiting to become a park?) and the river.

[@greenfrog8871]

24:04 with the highway adjacent road and the tunnel road you have two high cost routes to the same points. The tunnel road should just loop further south following the surface and hooking up in the city at another point

[@thecreatorofthedark]

Buffa in city fixes, "LANE MATHEMATICS!!" Biffa in his own city, "your just going to have to slam into eachother."

[@edwardmiessner6502]

But he did fix it in the end with lane mathematics at least on the motorway

[@harrynothairy257]

That trumpet got better and better (also more British) as the video went on! Thank you Biffa, this city is my fave!!! Also, for the university. It could be a story that they were separate unis but now they've partnered to make the one 'University of Blightea-on-the-wold' like many unis have done across the UK. Personally though I would love to see that hill become a park/nature reserve featuring the ruins there, maybe a place to also dump future rocks & ruins. Would be very National Trust or English Heritage vibes.

[@TukayAway]

For railways, especially in a British build, you have to remember that the railway is likely to exist way before the town reached the size that it is. So I'd either place it next to the main line that existed at the start of the map, or extend the line through East Kettling to a new industrial area near the motorway for good access for the traffic.

[@LK.Cynric]

I was waiting for 18:26 the whole time. I know you would notice and it would be funny. I have to say, you editing got a lot better. I spent around a year without watching your videos (only one or another, got tired of cities skylines) now that I'm back I can see the difference. they were good, now they are great!

[@static_7742]

Something that cities with bad traffic and solid rocky foundations do when they need a traffic fix is to plonk a tunnel from one busy point to the next, and make entire underground highways. An example is Sydney, Australia

[@hamsterfloat]

Roundabout eliminate jam by eliminating need of traffic light and effectively removing cross sections. It forces drivers to use yield without getting cars being stuck at cross section due to bottlenecks, by providing capacity of holding cars to grant them a time to yield and cross.

[@andrenilsson6067]

Biffa: It would be nice to come driving past all the law offices. Also Biffa: Hides all law offices with a thick row of trees. :-)

[@TheBayru]

When you tell your travel agent you want to re-coop and you end up with the pigeons ...

[@cstkto]

Possible suggestion for the location of the cargo train terminal, The motorway is raised in relation to the industrial area, how about a tunnel under the motorway and place it on the other side of the motorway, the line from the station can be branched off and go under the junction area and connect in to the terminal (this might allow you to make another connection to the junction on the other side of the road and allow you to limit motorway exits for trucks to that side of the motorway. While allow entry the other side as it is all left turn traffic restrict the exit there.)

[@cstkto]

you could upgrade the transit station to a bypass station with 4 lines going through if you don't want to branch off before the station

[@thatotherguy186]

I’m really glad you noticed the fact you only made access to one side of the highway… it was eating away at me just waiting for you to go… “oh, hey. I missed something.” Lol

[@gazzamuso]

40mph is VERY fast for those urban roads. They have houses fronting them, they shouldn't be any faster than 40kmh (whatever that is in mph).

[@crowaust]

Not sure where you are, but here it is 50 kmh unless otherwise marked, and 40 kmh for school zones, but most major roads are 60 or 70kmh even if they have houses on them. 40mph is about 65kmh.

[@Zyo117]

I don't disagree with you, but yeah, like the avove commenter mentioned, those roads usually have a speed limit of 30mph (50kph) if they have painted lines, or 20/25mph (30-40kph) for quiet residential areas. A multi lane road varies, but definitely minimum 30mph/50kph up to about 45mph/70kph for a non-highway.

[@jeddoomhammer5012]

It's interesting that the dorms still have parking lots in front of them when they are attached to walking paths with cars driving across the countryside to get on the nearby roads.

[@nikitasobolev7759]

You try coming to Edinburgh and the Lothians, bloody 20mph everywhere and now they're slowly reducing speed limits on arterial roads as well! Those 20mph limits all over the town are not that unrealistic

[@prostetnikjeltz6801]

Biffa: "What a great view from the motorway. Look at the law-offices" Also Biffa: "I'm gonna plant a thousand giant trees between the motorway and the university"

[@B.Evil.C]

The ruins on the hill look like many around England that are surrounded by parks. Sandal Castle is a good example:

[@snodghag]

Add a UK style wind farm to that hilltop

[@LadyLexyStarwatcher]

Biffa: "It was nice to recoup" Me: "Like a pigeon?" ;D

[@jmonumber3]

those two roads will probably become much more heavily used in the future as they will become the preferred junction for the new development across the water

[@yoyogaming480]

You had to be a Highway designer in your previous life. That's amazing work Biffa.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

😁

[@V8HiluxZX6R]

You need some random layby's on your motorways/main roads with food carts/take-away vans on them where drivers can stop for a snack! 😋 Also, whilst I know it's not how the road hierarchy works in the game, given the 3 lane roads, but UK wise, the road you have going underground is technically a dual carriageway so you could make it 70mph.

[@clarissaekins88]

Definitely a second university but a different style one to the existing one already! If you're going with separate town/cities then it is common to have multiple unis even just small ones near each other

[@stefangeorgievski8992]

Biffa build an old historic middle age town at the castle on the hill. Let's bring this to the top, so he can see it :D

[@TWOnly666]

The ruins that sit atop the new area should be called the Shabby Abbey, the former home of the Duke & Duchess of the Wold.

[@danm468]

That was a pretty handy game crash, the smaller junction looks much better!

[@raelynne79]

I put those UK motorways into my city and then ended up ripping them out again. The connections were always buggy and even TM:PE's lane fixing didn't stop them doing right turns onto the far carriageway. Unfortunately, I found the Blank Roads project, which is a very dangerous time-sink if you like to play with the Intersection Marking Tool 😂 (Also, +1 vote for same Uni with multiple campuses, much easier to get to lvl 5 that way.)

[@cathrin3_]

I think it would be very cool if the pre-existing university was extended to on top of the hill on the other side of the city next to the ruins. The ruins could be incorporated as an old, historic university building that collapsed or just has some interesting story behind it, though have it be used as an external tourist attraction/park. Two birds, one stone ☺️

[@CorbyTaylor]

28:56 It's obvious that Biffa hasn't visited London, as the whole city is practically 20mph 😂

[@Aquilarden]

It would be nice to see more variety in school dorms. That's more a comment on the game itself than on your building. The law school looks like a Vegas casino/hotel.

[@djcraney]

It’s a bit late but you could make the posh bridge 4 lane each side, and add Hugo there just on lane 1 and allow lane switching on the other 3, this would create a longer slip lane

[@dylanharrison494]

Having another university campus up by the ruins would be cool (maybe incorporating the ploppable building you used before unlocking the campus). It would be like St Andrew’s in scotland with the ruins of the church right near the school.

[@citrusklam9949]

Hello biffa. Im just asking if you ever build a 4way interchange can you make it a double trumpet or weaveless cloverleaf. If youre curious yumbltv has built those and they look amazing. Its your choice but i just think it would be really cool to see in your city.

[@brucer2152]

Castle Heights university....decades ago the "lord" who owned the castle ruins gave the land as a grant to make a university by the castle.

[@taylorcave376]

I think it would be cool to make a university hospital, we have quite a few in the UK and i think you could use the RICO settings, place hospital buildings and change some of them to universities

[@JimBrodie]

On theme with the title for possible future endeavours... for testing purposes, call it a pilot scheme and Blightea deserves it anyway. Autobahn. People will want to use a road if there's no limit surely? =]

[@jamie8620]

You should use those ruins on the hill by the new motorway connection as inspiration for a castle like Edinburgh castle

[@dermidont7]

I think it would be nice to have two different universities for a change. As always great content! Thank you!

[@cedricantoine9830]

You could bridge over the highway from the industy area into a new bigger cargo/ industy area and call it north/south industry park, south as the old one and the new one could include the traincargohub. Love al your video’s!

[@cedricantoine9830]

Split the rail right under the little town and Connect it with the people train hub

[@rusuran11]

Biffa. Make a park out of the ruins on top of the hill

[@richardpartington3559]

A university having a second university campus in a different town happens a lot in the UK.

[@ps4gamersamfarmer515]

Biffa keep this series going and build a contryside with uk contry roads and build the abandoned buildings and build a concrete by the road like next to it and with that build a qwall

[@OldManBadly]

Your traffic problem appears complex, but it's actually pretty simple: You have to offer the traffic from the Industrial Estate a way to get to the highway that is faster than going across town. Adding the second interchange seems like a good idea, but the actual traffic blow isn't right. Almost no matter what speed limit you put on the road, going all the way out to the new interchange to get on the highway just isn't going to be a good sell. Since the problem is mostly getting vehicles out for at least the moment, it's probably best to offer then a way to get onto the highway closer to where they are starting. So as an example, on the new s bend road, you might consider having it go over the highway at the second part of the S, and provide an "on ramp only" service from there. you could then have to road cross back over near the actual full interchance. It might also give you a possibility to develop that area between the highway and the river on that square. This would give the truck traffic a way to avoid crossing the city, which would probably address most of the other knock on effects. You could alternate try bringing the road over the highway and connecting it to the roundabout at the Upper teahampton hub. That would give them a way to use the existing interchange from the other side, and also give them a way to reach the rest of developed areas without using the interchange.

[@grimwillj1030]

a teahampton campus and a ketteling campus would be cool as part of a single uni

[@TheGregcellent]

Notification squad rise up! We all love BOTW

[@lullel5048]

I like Breath of the wild too

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Thanks! Gregcellent :-)

[@themead3088]

It'll be cool to have 2 rival uni's like Cambridge vs Oxford

[@TaahirJ]

You should create a compilation of your best design ideas

[@MCOTIB]

You could say the pigeons helped you re-coop.

[@Wolberg143]

citizens' cries for industry and commerce remain unheard 😢

[@alexgarvey7184]

Build a second University but make it seperate from the first one. Either one top of the hill or closer to the park between the two residential areas.

[@nikolam.1801]

38:15 power lines are going through the school of law

[@mattbennett1631]

@39:49 I would keep the University as one campus, as most British universities are like that. Could possibly put the motorway into a tunnel and build across? Possibly move schools into the field and keeping dorms where it is? @42:33 Also is it an idea to delete the junctions to roundabout and intersection? Then keep ban trucks on upper smaller roundabout?

[@laura.elizaa]

I think instead of making another university, you could do a trade school or liberal arts college. Most cities often have more than one university in them.

[@thelastpanda5934]

I think I would preserve the ruins on top of the hill and make it into some kind of park. Maybe a nature reserve? And having a second university sounds like a great idea. Like others said, they could be rivals in sports etc. How about the spot west of st.giles west? Or maybe in the field between the farm and the existing uni?

[@mantabloke8141]

2 different university would be good with a different style

[@teleshoppingoma9551]

Do you mean with a other Layout or with completely different buildings? I actually don't know if there are assets for DLC's in the Workshop. That would be great for my own Build!

[@Felix-kd8tn]

Instead of banning stuff to get the traffic to go where you want, why don't you raise the speed on the ways you want them to go?

[@jaredlash5002]

That train line splitting is going to mess up your train traffic and you'll end up needing to separate your passenger and cargo train traffic later on.

[@truckerjay]

That cut looks like the m40

[@khao1412]

I'm missing your Thursday video so so much lol. Btw, great video but I'm still in love US map.

[@sobertillnoon]

I love your tiny eggabouts

[@truckerayray]

The area next to the motorway bridge would be good as a small mining village similar to Hebden Bridge?

[@cheezewizz2000]

Add a polytechnic (the technical college one)! Blightea PolyTeaNic!

[@maquotez8601]

love this series biffa

[@capitalinventor4823]

Biffa, did you really say that you went on holiday to re-coop just after talking about the pigeons?

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

I wondered who would notice 🤣

[@vaderenzoonseries]

Hi Biffa, your humor made my day! Maybe you could place a Hogwarts style university on top of the hill, next to the ruins. That would add nicely to your city style. Greetings from Holland!

[@Nathanwilliam209]

Biffa the area that u said u going to put the 2 university put there some small hotels and converted barn to chill and have ur citizens an amazing holidays ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@jonblair5470]

I think you’re too strict on the number of buses on each route. 2-4 extra buses on a road with >40k cars on the road is

[@reubendorman]

I think you should continue the university over the road

[@vampdan]

Should be separate universities. The new one should be arts & humanities and they specialize in the ruins on the hill. It would also be interesting to have tourism mixed into a university area.

[@uberblue6843]

Biffa - could you please share the mod you're using to make those parallel roads and the curving? I have things like Move It and TMPE, but don't know what you're using to get those nice curves and trumpet exchanges.

[@teleshoppingoma9551]

It's Network Multitool I think, but if you want to see all mods which he uses in that Build than you can search for the British build mods on the steam workshop. And make sure you are searching for collections

[@sirvirtuous1]

Is that building with the train outside meant to be Swindon shopping outlet? 😂😂

[@badjohnny6599]

aww man... thanks for posting another video...

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Any time!

[@Wooders]

ha You went went away to recoup.... Pigeons live in a Coop

[@_Prince_Of_Darkness]

it would be rather nice to have a second university campus of a different variety and there you could use a football stadium for varsity sports there

[@kreega2947]

According to your indicators you need lots of industry. do some mining or oil industry.

[@Slack_man]

A lot of cities are banning heavy traffic through those roads that you were saying it would be fine for them to come down as well as them already being banned in the areas you were worried about them cutting through just as a note you could do that if you wanted so they did go the other way, also the road that runs along the cliff wouldn't be suitable for heavy goods vehicles realistically.

[@AdamHinckley]

@39:40 teahampton should have a universaty

[@Rjm2422]

I don't think the second university should go near the new junction, that area seems like a prime place for sheep farming and a national park. I think you should put the second university as a new little university town.

[@l3v1ckUK]

25:05 Some sort of hill top nature reserve?

[@stefandebeer9375]

35:17 *Happy OCD noises*

[@peterbrinkworth7549]

Biffa how about an old Roman road Straight as an arrow?

[@Cedestra]

Biffa! Did you just A303 your Stonehenge?

[@lollol-dz2kc]

How did you make the trucks to stay in the slow lane? in the city not highway

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Take a look at the Traffic Manager mod :-)

[@dxelson]

You literally only had one lane going towards the roundabout on that avenue, Ofcourse traffic was gonna pile up 🤣 33:22 that entire avenue only has one lane going straight with dedicated right turn in every single junctions 🤣 Edit: seems you found out by the end by replacing them with roundabouts 🤣 there was absolutely no need to build a new interchange

[@mcwolfbeast]

I think you might be making a mistake with traffic manager with your restrictions. the fact that the indicators are green I think means it will apply to all roads of that type. So you probably inadvertently banned trucks all over the map >.

[@teleshoppingoma9551]

He used that tool on another build and I think it was applied only on that single roadpiece but I'm not sure

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

No it doesn't 👍

[@marktaylor6553]

I've found a few 'helpful' mods are not so helpful. I had to shut one down because it was creating a non-stop, UNFIXABLE traffic nightmare in my Farm District (it would NOT keep the settings I had on my barns - it kept constantly changing them, leading the trucks to continuously travel in circles re-distributing goods in a never-ending cycle of confusion). And right now I am considering turning off the 'Lifecycle' mod because its reeked havoc with my schools (suddenly my High schools are all empty and I am 16K short on my elementary schools!!!). Too many mods, all trying to fix things and interfering with each other, IMHO.

[@ShamuManta]

Yes make another university and make it the trade school

[@Macwelshman]

You could have made the motorway bridge 4 lane and kept the bridge style.

[@fingerdrop]

This sounds like a Biffa impersonator

[@Findas88]

31:49 That is pretty mch a stroad connection wise maybe you should reduce them?

[@gregdubya1993]

How about a Cheltea FC?

[@SpottedPredator]

Is it just me or is there audio issue(statics) at around 25:42?

[@MaydayAggro]

I am confused. Traffic on the left but using MPH.... Btw the "vanilla" heavy traffic ban also doesn't seem to apply to EMPTY trucks. Shouldn't it be the "Universitea"? Those are "Rugby"-abouts

[@Xenon0000000000001]

The UK uses MPH for roads and a random assortment of metric and imperial for everything else.

[@MaydayAggro]

@@Xenon0000000000001 Obviously I've never been.

[@JS...]

Did you build a sand city on the beach?